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Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.10.06 13:59:00 -
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Given how much of a resource hog CQ is, my suspicion is that they can't actually get Establishments to work without crashing 90% of PCs.
And that might explain the sudden change of focus.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
219
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Posted - 2011.10.06 14:01:00 -
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Yep... nothing will happen b4 next year and the finished product most likely goes much further to future.
However this shouldn't be an issue. It comes when it comes with the resources it has. Knowing exact date isn't really important. Some people just need some reassuring that the project is slowly grinding in the background.
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Rhaegor Stormborn
BURN EDEN
Northern Coalition.
94
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Posted - 2011.10.06 14:43:00 -
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You establishment does not matter. Put your junk on the market, change price by .01 and sell it. |
Poastmortem
1
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Posted - 2011.12.06 11:18:00 -
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Nel Gardier wrote:@OP - Because I don't think CCP can crack two avatars in the same room let alone an establishments worth.
There's probably more than just EVE players breathing a sigh of relief over :words: - probably many devs being whipped to get the next round of code ready for forced public beta testing.
I suspect many opt in betas over the next year.
The thing that irks me is that they had an engine which was capable of multi-user environments back in 2008 but they scrapped it so that they could develop a new engine they could release in WoD (that silly vampire game based on the 'Charmed' fad). So they have had ~7 years to get a working product out the door which featured WiS (establishments). But have failed and failed because of greed and stupidity. |
Tallian Saotome
Nuclear Arms Exchange
Fatal Ascension
275
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Posted - 2011.12.06 11:55:00 -
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necro much?
o/`-á Lord, I want to be a gynecologist..
KY, rubber gloves, and a flashlight.-á o/` |
Marcus Harikari
Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.12.06 13:26:00 -
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Why do you bother them about a feature you aren't even INTERESTED in? Seriously, are you that big of an *******? |
Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
205
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Posted - 2011.12.06 13:30:00 -
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WHO CARES ABOUT WALKING IN STATIONS ANYWAY?
DO I HAVE TO REMIND YOU THIS IS AN INTERNET SPACESHIP GAME! |
Adamonus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.12.06 15:48:00 -
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Skippermonkey wrote:W
DO I HAVE TO REMIND YOU THIS IS AN INTERNET SPACESHIP GAME!
...and of course that does not change - so dont be afraid and let them
OPEN UP THE GATES, NOW ! WE WANT TO BE FREE AND NOT CHAINED TO CQ!!
WIS - together!! |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
60
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Posted - 2011.12.06 16:53:00 -
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Mr Kidd wrote:
The speed at which CCP has changed directions from Incarna is indicative of hitting a wall and bouncing off in the opposite direction. I doubt it has anything to do with player desire and more to do with technical challenges.
This |
Vyra Valyr
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:03:00 -
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It's pretty sad to see the Great Vision for EVE falling apart so fast. WiS Expectations were build up over years and are now disintegrating in days and weeks.
I only see one fu**ing problem with establishments and multiplayer for Incarna. And this my Dear friends is their Engine. I mean the Characters look wonderful in Character Creation and still pretty good in our own little CQ but what the Hell have you guys programmed ? Look at some other games out there that pretty much offer the same Quality for half of the Hardware costs.
Since Captain Quarters are here and running (maybe not smooth and expensive but they are running) its not a far way to travel to acutally recieve some multiplayer Gameplay. Maybe even Create a Channel System f++r Crowded Places ? From a Design POV you guys have Everything ? Well atleast i thought so after hearing everything about Incarna and what CCP wanted to create with it. Mini Games, Bars, Agents, New In-Character Tutorial etc. you have your goddamn Technology running (again with crappy eprfomance but it runs)= ! You can't leave it now undone. IMHO the Whole Thing about Incarna was "we want a good start" well you had a bad start, but it started, you promised something and youi should deliver it. Again and again and again : Even with Focus on FiS i don't see a problem in realsing Incarna Content over time, because actually it feels like it's already here and the Rooms only need some assembling then you have to get some NPC's sitting around and animate them and such but you don*'t have to code a brand-new engine anymore or worry about how to integrate it, because that was the Big Part and that is done now !
Just Focus on FiS but, dont ever think about changing your direction because your Future Vision of EVE touched many Players and it will still become legendary once Dust 514 and Incarna 2.0 are out since you're the only guys who are actually able to do it or atleast willing to.
Just my 2 Cents, i Love you guys and i want some goddamn Tech 3 Frigs ! I Read about some around the Time the Tech 3 Cruisers were Live <.< |
Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
Bloodbound.
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:44:00 -
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*NEWSFLASH*
Incarna is not coming any time soon. Deal with it.
(We now return to your regularly scheduled programs)
I am a pod pilot:
http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/DesertIce/POD.jpg
CCP Zulu: Came expecting a discussion about computer monitors, left confused. |
Rod Blaine
Gilded Goose Brokerage
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:55:00 -
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Get in ******* line, I've been waiting on CCP to come through since 2003 |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.06 18:59:00 -
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Quote:... WoD (that silly vampire game based on the 'Charmed' fad)
 You know better than that.
That's like saying Star Wars was based on Spaceballs.
Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Darrow Hill
Eight Bit Industries
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Posted - 2011.12.06 19:25:00 -
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CCP Hellmar wrote:We underestimated our development time, set impractical or misleading expectations...
CCP Hellmar wrote:We have the technology. Now we need time to add the content that will bring more meaning to the gameplay...
You're not going to get a definitive answer. At least not anytime soon.
I wouldn't expect anything until winter 2012 or later.
Not to say we won't see any improvements or changes to EvE between then and now; just that the full realization of Incarna is going to take a while.
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Solhild
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
203
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Posted - 2011.12.06 19:47:00 -
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Darrow Hill wrote:CCP Hellmar wrote:We underestimated our development time, set impractical or misleading expectations... CCP Hellmar wrote:We have the technology. Now we need time to add the content that will bring more meaning to the gameplay... You're not going to get a definitive answer. At least not anytime soon. I wouldn't expect anything until winter 2012 or later. Not to say we won't see any improvements or changes to EvE between then and now; just that the full realization of Incarna is going to take a while.
Happy for them to get it right, thinking about good stuff done properly is ok with me - as long as I like what they come up with of course  |
Monikerina
Macross Space Defense Squadron
The Conglomeration of Ill Advised Ideas
3
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Posted - 2011.12.06 19:47:00 -
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Here is your honest answer.
Never.
Know why?
Because this is a spaceship game. Eventually CCP will own up to the fact that FiS is really the only Eve, and they can't figure out a way to make gameplay a part of ambulation.
Since ambulation was, is, and always will be totally idiotic, we'll get our captains quarters because they were coded, and then that will be it.
I'm quite happy with that. In fact, I was telling all you idiots for years that Ambulation was a waste of resources and a pointless concept.
So tl;dr ---- you will never get multiplayer establishments, and they will never finish the concept that was Incarna. Good riddance. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Varion Galactic
Tragedy.
231
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Posted - 2011.12.06 19:50:00 -
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Tallian Saotome wrote:necro much?
Judging by the name of the necro poster I think this was deliberate. Even still though...
Support our boobies!-áLINKY! |
arcca jeth
Dark Alliance
Dark Empire Alliance
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Posted - 2011.12.06 20:01:00 -
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Monikerina wrote:Here is your honest answer.
Never.
Know why?
Because this is a spaceship game. Eventually CCP will own up to the fact that FiS is really the only Eve, and they can't figure out a way to make gameplay a part of ambulation.
Since ambulation was, is, and always will be totally idiotic, we'll get our captains quarters because they were coded, and then that will be it.
I'm quite happy with that. In fact, I was telling all you idiots for years that Ambulation was a waste of resources and a pointless concept.
So tl;dr ---- you will never get multiplayer establishments, and they will never finish the concept that was Incarna. Good riddance.
there is no factual evidence of this and this is simply your opinion |
Ana Vyr
Vyral Technologies
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Posted - 2011.12.06 20:13:00 -
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Flamespar wrote:Recently we were told that multiplayer establishments were almost ready to go onto singularity.
In CCP Speak this means the feature was discussed internally and possibly documented. Remember Incarna itself was just about ready to be released for what...5 years?
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
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Posted - 2011.12.06 20:55:00 -
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Monikerina wrote:Here is your honest answer.
Never.
Know why?
Because this is a spaceship game. Eventually CCP will own up to the fact that FiS is really the only Eve, and they can't figure out a way to make gameplay a part of ambulation.
Since ambulation was, is, and always will be totally idiotic, we'll get our captains quarters because they were coded, and then that will be it.
I'm quite happy with that. In fact, I was telling all you idiots for years that Ambulation was a waste of resources and a pointless concept.
So tl;dr ---- you will never get multiplayer establishments, and they will never finish the concept that was Incarna. Good riddance.
That's what I said!!!
Right after Pong was released and some idiot wanted to improve it, to develop other kinds of video games.
Complete waste of development time.
Revenge should not stop at the ship!
It's not so much a mission statement,-áit's more like a family motto. |
Issler Dainze
Tadakastu-Obata Corporation
The Honda Accord
351
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Posted - 2011.12.06 20:57:00 -
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Did you spend even a second looking in the forums to see if there is another thread on this issue??
There has been for weeks. One of the most active threads for the last couple of weeks. Adding yet another thread doesn't help the cause.
Please do at least a little research before posting.
Hilmar said WiS is dead after the last of the CQs were delivered in this patch and a GM inidcated WiS work is on ice indefinitely.
WiS thread
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Kurfin
Space Research and Technology Investments
6
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Posted - 2011.12.06 21:26:00 -
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It's a shame. A well implemented WiS would enhance Eve, and bring more people into the game. But releasing it in such a half baked form, one room, no interaction with other players, and it bringing the game to a near halt on machines that previously have little or no trouble running Eve, has set a large section of the population against it that may have otherwise been behind it.
Releasing it with the deeply unpopular, and hilariously un-thought out, Nex store was the final nail in the coffin.
Personally I hope they do start working on WiS again, but this time before releasing it, FINISH IT THIS TIME! Oh, and some FPS PvP action would be appreciated too. |
Cipher Jones
132
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Posted - 2011.12.06 22:20:00 -
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Quote:*Sigh*
Why, oh why, don't people ever read all of the available information?
Because its conflicting, inaccurate, and incomplete. FFS.
See what happens when fat neckbeards try to ride little ponies? The ponies die. |
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