Apparantly one of the devs at the Vegas meeting made a remark that he'd favor the complete removal of concord.
In other news we just had an expansion which gives players more room and incentives to take matters into their own hands.
It appears we are witnessing a shift from NPC law enforcement to players being given tools and incentives to do that. Not because Concord isn't doing a good job, but Concord is so effective that there is little room left for players to participate in the epic fight between good and bad.

It's not an epic fight between good and bad - it's a mediocre slaughter of sheep by wolves. And if CCP removes CONCORD completely, the sheep (i.e. those that refuse to change their play styles regardless of what happens in game) will simply quit to go play another game where they can be left alone.

These people do not WANT player interaction, and while you can force the interaction (for example, removing CONCORD to allow gankers their very own version of space whack-a-mole), you cannot force these people to continue playing (and paying for subs), so efforts in that direction are futile.

CCP isn't going to do anything that drastically impacts their bottom line in a negative manner, no matter what pipe dreams the devs spout off at conventions.

On the bright side, PLEX prices would crash over night

Until that time there should be tools in place to enable the white knights to disrupt criminal actions. Ideas for this has been suggestions like a concord titan where white knights wait till they can bridge to a crimescene or a crimescene beacon on overview that allows players to warp to the scene to have a look and possibly aid the victim.

On the matter of the 'white knights' I believe that such acctions should be properly rewarded. The new bounty system doesn't appear to be very effective for this. Concord should add additional rewards for law enforcemtent which can be in the form of isk, security status and/or loyalty points. Similarly to the current bounty system these rewards should be properly balanced out against the inflicted loss (to prevent abuse by people shooting their own alts).

I feel that given the current status, if indeed a change is wanted, they should either allow super caps in highsec, or dumb down concord to make them tankable for a little while. Not insta-pop or anything, but like... grinding down a pos effect.

That would make things interesting. Would be nice to see a blob come into high sec and encourage a huuuge fight with concord to create a pvpve environment.

This, pretty much.

I'm new here, but seems to me the linchpin of hi-sec boredom is the sheer omnipotence of Concord. If a first offense caused a Concord response that is merely force to be reckoned with, and it scaled up to omnipotence only if you resist them, that adds the potential for more interesting situations than getting vaporized if you step out of line.

My big ol' Gonzo idea would be to conduct criminal actions much like the Grand Theft Auto games do it (there, I said it). The more criminal actions you do, and the higher the security level of the solar system you're in, the more Concord throws at you. Or Concord's response pattern could be always the same, but the security level of the system would restrict how many offenders Concord could deal with at once. Or some combo. I'm not picky.

And it seems like ganking has been reduced considerably since Retribution.

I would be curious to know what makes you saying that. Ganking is now even more profitable if the target has a bounty.

Except for this point, I understand your opinion. However, there is also a lot of features only existing because it is harder to grief in high sec. The whole war system thing, the fact that begginers can learn and evolve at their rhythm before willingly drift to less secured space, the whole economical 'stability' of EvE (ok it's not really stable, but it would be worse if bringing goods to HUBs were impossible), political plotting in high-sec corporations...


The idea of a player-driven security, of good versus evil, is attractive, but a mercyless world like EVE needs a place were you can catch your breath. And of course, we all know that leaving parts of EVE gameplay to players without thinking of all the consequences, will result in more power for all our big 0.0 blocks. I bet that if 0.5 were half secured by concord, and theoretically half by players, you would see some huge alliance lockdowns of such systems, with enough opponents so that it is impossible to counter them.

Never happen. EVE would lose 2/3 of its subscribers overnight.

EVE would become a better game overnight.

EVE would become a better game overnight.

give the militia guys a button on their UI that will warp them to any aggression on their vicinity.

make different types of aggression allow calling militia guys from different distances, if a system is under a lot of ganking allow militia from all the region to rain down on the pirates.

make militia factions reward LP for police actions, make pirate factions reward LP for pirate actions on systems they randomly mark as targets.

oh, and remove CONCORD, or reduce them to be some kind of emergency response ships that spawn on aggression doing some light reps on the aggressed and on the militia guys.

and finally change militia, so instead of a permanent commitment its a weekly "tour" at the end of the week you can go for another week or drop and go back to where you were before. maybe trow in a weekly increase in LP gains, maybe +5% per week, staking.


anyway, removing concord from one day to the other would be a bad idea, it has to be a gradual change over a year or so.

I love the idea of Eve vigilante justice and lynch mobs

Players can't be trusted to police an MMO. Ever.

EVE would become a better game overnight.

players have shown that we can take utterly lawless space and make it avaliable and safe for our alliance members.