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Madmi CEO
Mad Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2012.12.11 09:41:00 -
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With the recent changes to Torpedoes, it's tempting to throw a couple of T2 Rigor Rigs on the Golem, which together with Guided Missile Precision would bring the Explosion Radius down to about 216m. However, this means a range of 30km with regular T1s which certainly doesn't reduce the need for an afterburner.
I was wondering what your thoughts were on this. Should one simply take the Retribution changes as a minor buff to the Torpedo Golem through the GMP skill now affecting Torpedoes and stick with Hydraulic Bay Thrusters, or say screw it and go for the sexy torpedoes hitting like pre-retribution HAMs? |
Justin Valentine
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.11 09:50:00 -
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Now try Javelin with the eft |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.11 11:50:00 -
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i fail to see the point in ignoring the powerful target painter bonus and further gimping your already barely passable range in the process.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Schalac
Apocalypse Reign
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Posted - 2012.12.11 11:56:00 -
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I would think that with GMP and the TP bonus that the Golem has it is very possible for it to be used quite effectively in PvP. Now if only they would do something about the horrid sensor strength marauders have.
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Bouh Revetoile
Barricade.
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Posted - 2012.12.11 12:23:00 -
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Schalac wrote:I would think that with GMP and the TP bonus that the Golem has it is very possible for it to be used quite effectively in PvP. Now if only they would do something about the horrid sensor strength marauders have.
Yeah, remove every drawback the ship can have ; and why bother using ECCM if we can nerf ECM ships to ineffectiveness ? |
Jazmyn Stone
KIRSTONE ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2012.12.11 13:08:00 -
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Hmmm, didn't think rigors worked on torpedoes, or did that get changed in Retribution?
-Jaz
PS I will check it out for myself. |
Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2012.12.11 13:11:00 -
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Jazmyn Stone wrote:Hmmm, didn't think rigors worked on torpedoes, or did that get changed in Retribution?
-Jaz
PS I will check it out for myself.
It did, that along with Guided Missile Precision skill gave them quite a good buff along with HAM's and Rockets.
I almost want to try a PvP Torpedo Raven. |
Firestorm Delta
Aphotic Machina
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Posted - 2012.12.11 13:52:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Jazmyn Stone wrote:Hmmm, didn't think rigors worked on torpedoes, or did that get changed in Retribution?
-Jaz
PS I will check it out for myself. It did, that along with Guided Missile Precision skill gave them quite a good buff along with HAM's and Rockets. I almost want to try a PvP Torpedo Raven.
While it is possible it changed, I have not seen it in the notes anywhere myself. While the skill is for sure changed not sure about the rigor. Either way if your using a golem you need range, your better off running a pair of painters then a rigor. |
Zyella Stormborn
Alpha Strategy
In Umbra Mortis
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Posted - 2012.12.11 16:48:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/updates/patchnotes.asp
"Skills
The Guided Precision skill has been changed to affect all missiles."
And in other news, which will be so very nice for some of us....
"Blockade Runners are now immune to cargo scanners."
:)
There is a special Hell for people like that,
Right next to child molestors, and people that talk in the theater.
~Firefly |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2012.12.11 17:01:00 -
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Schalac wrote:I would think that with GMP and the TP bonus that the Golem has it is very possible for it to be used quite effectively in PvP. Now if only they would do something about the horrid sensor strength marauders have.
Well you've just gained the facility to increase it by 20 % ;)
MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |
Postitute
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.11 20:45:00 -
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To the OP:
For PvP and PVE I would say range rigs still are best. If you want smaller explosion radius for PvP, try the related booster.
My experience with the Golem post-patch has been awesome but I still find myself very glad for the added range of 2x hydraulic bay thrusters. |
CaptainFalcon07
Caucasian Culture Club
Transmission Lost
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Posted - 2012.12.13 09:34:00 -
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Haven't touch the golem in a while but hasn't the TP bonus also been buffed to 7.5 -> 10% per level?
So with the -25% reduction in exp velo (unless using rage ammo) along with better tp, I could imagine damage application being much better across all platforms.
Assuming max skills a RF TP will go from 55% -> 60%.
Torpedo Explosion radius goes from 450% -> 337.5
While still crap against frigates, you'll do a lot more damage to cruisers. |
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