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Raid	Posted - 2005.05.15 23:19:00 - [1] Edited by: Raid on 15/05/2005 23:21:17 Originally by: Stradivarious Edited by: Stradivarious on 15/05/2005 23:05:30 LMAO so when SE calls in their friends its ok, our friends come to help us and you throw a fit? Guess what, you ain't seen nothing yet, prepare for a deep anal probing of the highest order, FA are not our only friends :) Like I said in another post, you upped the ante, we call :) Yes please call your friends down... The only reason you stay down there is the game mechanics allow you to hide.
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.15 23:37:00 - [2] Maybe i missed something on my last trip to period basis. But there were no FA ships flying around that i could see. So at what point do you think anyone will recognize FA as having a legit claim to the region? You have enough problems in Delve why would you start more trouble for yourself? Simply posting that you patrol the area and therefore have the right to shoot anyone in the area is only asking for more trouble. If thats what you want then fine, but dont think for a second we will acknowledge that FA has any "influence" in the PB region..
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.16 02:03:00 - [3] Originally by: Saladin Are these kind of threads really necessary? The matter only concerns FA, the "coalition" and SE. Why does this need public coverage? Convo them in game or send an eve mail Yeah im sure the BB official statement that was made last week needed some public coverage
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.16 13:59:00 - [4] Originally by: Padovar Adandur Edited by: Padovar Adandur on 16/05/2005 13:15:17 Whether or not PB is controlled by Fountain Alliance is not the issue here. We have clearly stated anyone without a positive standing risks the chance of being shot when they run into a FA fleet in Period Basis. This has been made public by FA a while ago. Recently SE also sent out a "not blue = KOS" warning concerning Period Basis. Quote: [ 2005.05.15 20:51:33 ] kashkaisha > why did you engage zedz torque ? [ 2005.05.15 20:51:47 ] GFLTorque > bored to ****ing death If GFLTorque wishes to pick a fight, then he should bear the responsibilities himself. No need to blame someone else and drag more people into it. The issue is whether or not FA control the PB region. If you do not control the region and you go about shooting anyone and their dogs in space you do not control then your asking for a fight. We never went to PB looking to fight FA, but here you gusy come riding your Tech2 horses and sticking your noses into the situation. FA DOES NOT control devle and you DO NOT control PB. Anyone who visits the area can clearly see that. If you do not control the area then dont come down here shooting people unless you want to start yet another war. The problem now a days with FA is you have more pointless rules and policies than you have guns to back them up.
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.16 14:12:00 - [5] Edited by: Raid on 16/05/2005 14:15:16 Originally by: Ivilb Itch Originally by: Raid The issue is whether or not FA control the PB region. If you do not control the region and you go about shooting anyone and their dogs in space you do not control then your asking for a fight. Im confused, how does that not apply to yourself ? Tyrell is a part of the coalition. We have interest in the region and we have clearly stated our intentions. What has FA done other than throw out a pointless press release tht no one really believes?
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.16 16:10:00 - [6] Edited by: Raid on 16/05/2005 16:11:30 Originally by: empire nublette Originally by: Raid The issue is whether or not FA control the PB region. If you do not control the region and you go about shooting anyone and their dogs in space you do not control then your asking for a fight. let me see: 1. you don't control the pb region and you go about shooting anyone and their dogs in space, which means your asking for a fight. 2. you shot at fa and got the fight and now you're whining about it.. where's the logic in that? 1. Correct we do not claim the PB region are freely admit that... We have clearly stated our intentions and no one should be confused about it. We do not shoot anyone and their dogs. Only those that we are waring with. IE: DMGI, Smash, etc... 2. FA shot a Mass pilot not the other way around. You live up to your name sir. Stay in empire....
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.16 16:50:00 - [7] Originally by: Wyclef Originally by: Raid 2. FA shot a Mass pilot not the other way around. Pst dude, i think you missed the post where the log says MASS engaged, not FA. I hope your not refering to that two line "log" from the Xanadu spin doctor
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.16 16:55:00 - [8] Originally by: empire nublette Originally by: Raid Originally by: Wyclef Originally by: Raid 2. FA shot a Mass pilot not the other way around. Pst dude, i think you missed the post where the log says MASS engaged, not FA. I hope your not refering to that two line "log" from the Xanadu spin doctor so you're saying the log is a fake? Im saying a two line CHAT log proves nothing.
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.16 16:56:00 - [9] Originally by: Shin Ra Can't everyone just fight who they want to fight without having to back it up with a reason. Yo want to go kill X, go do it. Don't make up some *** excuse about how your personal liberties have been assaulted or whatever. Just get in a ship and go kill. Its really quite simple. If everyoen did this the forums would be a boring place.
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.16 17:08:00 - [10] Originally by: empire nublette Originally by: Raid Originally by: empire nublette Originally by: Raid Originally by: Wyclef Originally by: Raid 2. FA shot a Mass pilot not the other way around. Pst dude, i think you missed the post where the log says MASS engaged, not FA. I hope your not refering to that two line "log" from the Xanadu spin doctor so you're saying the log is a fake? Im saying a two line CHAT log proves nothing. those two lines from a chat log are more credible than your word. ROFLMAO This coming from the FA alt!! someoen put this guys back in his cage.
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.16 18:20:00 - [11] Originally by: Deadzone Well, I guess the questions can also be posed.... 1) Why is the coallalition in PB in the first place? 2) and Why is SE taking stations in a Region they only 'claimed' rats were comming from. Hmmm.... Hmm...again. DZ 1. has been explained in this thread already. Please take the time to read it. 2. Is not for me to answer as i am not in SE. From my perspective though it appears SE is only defending itself from DMGI and co who have been coming into PS and takign stations. They have every right to fight back IMO.
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.16 18:25:00 - [12] Originally by: TornSoul Double standards [/quote I didnt want to waste time and space quoting your whole post but ill quickly answer this. Since you quoted me then i assume this answer is directed at me. Tyrell Corp is NOT in Stain empire. We are part of the coalition and as such your entire argument does not apply. Your quote of the SE press release does not apply to the coalition and out intentions in the area have clearly been stated before. Please reply with soemthing that has a little more to do with the coalition as this thread was started by members of the coalition and i will not speak on SE's behalf.
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.16 19:52:00 - [13] Edited by: Raid on 16/05/2005 19:54:46 Originally by: TornSoul @Raid If you'll notice - In the topic of this thread both SE and the Coalition is mentioned - So my comments are relevant to both. The FA Advisory clearly states that PB is a no-fly zone for anyone without specific permission. It's really not that hard to understand is it? ----- Alright ill repeat what i said again only thsi tiem ill quote you. When you posted that statement you quoted me and some of the things i said. Now, because it was me and i am not a member of SE nor is my Corp the rest of your reply should be directed at Raid, Tyrell Corp or the coalition. now on to the quotes: Quote: 1: A So you dont claim it - Fine. Yet you impose your own 'rules' to the area (ie. you'll shoot whoever you want) Isnt this the excact same thing you say FA does - And says we cant... Double standards1: A So you dont claim it - Fine. Yet you impose your own 'rules' to the area (ie. you'll shoot whoever you want) Isnt this the excact same thing you say FA does - And says we cant... Double standards The coalition does not claim PB... i dont think i need to say that again i think you heard it this tiem... What rules did we put in place? Nothing as far as im concerned... So thats the end of that please do not make stuff up. Quote: B Let me refer you to your (SE) own pressrelease : [Stain Empire] - Statement to the residents of Period Basis. No need to quote the rest of this point your first line already shows how it does not apply to what i said prior. Quote: 2: Yes FA Killed a MASS pilot. He died because he was not skilled enough to finish what he started. Get over it. ---- Let me spell the situation in PB out for those (alot apparently) who have a problem with reading prior press releases etc. SE has not been given permission to enter PB - For whatever reason. Period. Expect to be asked (if theres time) to leave if encountered by FA forces that happens to be in the area. Refuse, and you'll get shot. Pretty simple. So you have some corps with base in PB attacking you in PS. Tough. Have a cookie. FA has had the excact same situation (reversed) many times (see the DSMA and ATUK references above). We managed to deal with it regardless. Now it's SE's turn. But wait I forget... SE doesnt play by the same rules that they require others to do (respecting no-fly zones) Double standards You do make some mention of MASS here but only in your quote. Then you go on to talk abotu SE again... I will however address some of the things you say in thsi last quote from my perspective... Why does SE or anyone for that matter need your permission to enter PB? Because you had a press release last month that said you patrol the area? No one respects that press release because it is no longer valid. You do not control delve, you do not control PB. No one will ask you permission to enter the area because they dont need it. So you can throw that press release around as much as you want i dont think anyone will pay attention.
Raid	Posted - 2005.05.16 20:28:00 - [14] Originally by: Specops So now that I shot that down to will you admit your just trying to take control of PB for the refinery tax? Nah can't let the miners find out shhh. This statement right hear proves you have no idea what is going on.

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