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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.05.19 19:53:00 -
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 Originally by: Necrologic
Edited by: Necrologic on 19/05/2005 19:33:47
Originally by: Nyphur
5 Dual 150mms on my setup.
You have my deepest sympathies.
I can tank an entire fleet of elite frigates, cruisers and battleships and I have a raven on standby to deal out the damage for me. Your sympathies are not required.
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Fierce Deity
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Posted - 2005.05.19 20:07:00 -
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Originally by: Dash Ripcock
Originally by: Fierce Deity
While i've never flown a zealot i do so love my diemos, i tested it on an apoc and effectively ripped it in half in under 4 seconds. I don't have to switch set up's to npc i.e. your hunting in low sec and a player rat warps in you can just as easy turn on him.
Either ship you take neither are invincable so be prepared for a massive loss should you try to take on the world with it.
I take it that the Apocalypse wasn't running a combat-specification armour tank? Whenever I come up against an Apocalypse it ends up in a dead-heat - he can't hit me hard enough with his lasers and drones, and I can't break his tank. If you out-fitted a Deimos for full damage, and neglected your defences and speed, you could probably kill one - but encountering something more mobile would probably be your demise...
TBO i don't know what set up he was using, i do know i was half into his armor in a few seconds though. Of course i have all gunnery to at leaste 4 including med blaster spec, as well as hac. He as well was quite surprised at how fast i brought him down.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.05.19 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Necrologic
Edited by: Necrologic on 19/05/2005 19:33:47
Originally by: Nyphur
5 Dual 150mms on my setup.
You have my deepest sympathies.
I can tank an entire fleet of elite frigates, cruisers and battleships and I have a raven on standby to deal out the damage for me. Your sympathies are not required.
I think what he meant to say was that your setup sucks.
I would agree.
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.05.19 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard
Its wierd I have found that as far as wepons go Lasers are the best at the medium and small sizes but are the worst turret at the large size.
Err, you mean the opposite right?
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2005.05.20 07:39:00 -
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Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Necrologic
you can't fit a 1600 plate and even electrons without several rcu 2's.
Indeed. I run 5 Dual 150mms on my setup. It's for NPCing.
It seems an awful waste putting a 1600RT plate on a Deimos, when it has such high resistances and manoeuvrability compared with the Thorax. If you know the rat you're taking on, you should be quite able to tank their damage - unless of course it's a huge spawn. Even so - if you're going to buy a HAS for rat-hunting, you may as well get something that has a better tank (for example: the Sacrilege). PvP-wise, Dual 150mm IIs are a bad idea - they offer a Jack-of-all-trade offence - you're far better off with Electron Blaster IIs.
As for the claim of tanking an entire fleet - that's a rather big claim, considering most 'fleets' these days fit for maximum damage over range. Extra armour or not - you'll only prolong your existence for a few seconds...
Battle Angels Inc - The Movie
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Spider Jerusalem
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Posted - 2005.05.20 13:51:00 -
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I can get my damage modifier above 11 on the Deimos and with two armor harderners, I have 3 out of 4 resistances above 80%. Also fitted with a armor repairer 2 and there is not much I can't tank. Also, the Deimos looks better in camoflague(or something).
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Kinsy
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Posted - 2005.05.20 14:46:00 -
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Edited by: Kinsy on 20/05/2005 14:46:59
The Apoc pilot mustve had no tanking at all.
I was pirated in a belt by a Deimos, but as i was tanking the rats i had his damage tanked - kinetic and thermal & 1 Large repairer. If idve fitted a 50% instead of a 30% thermal hardener that day i might have tanked his damage, but as it was i tanked it for a good 5 mins before i went down.
Having said that, i engaged said HAC pilot twice since then with a full rack of lasers, and not managed to dent his tank alone.
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diablo
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Posted - 2005.05.20 15:51:00 -
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mmmmmm Zealot i think.
My views are my own ok so no flaming :)
Zealot uber damage, ISSUE i find i u want mega damage so u fit heavy beam IIs and HS IIS ok thats fine but if he gets inside your 15k 20k Optimal u wont hit ****, and all i have left then is the NOS, and if ya webbed well say no more.
Deimos Nice ship, lots of drones BUT u need to get close to really own anything Blasterize em, and ive not yet seem any1 in a Deimos excel in a fleet battle there normally dust before they can get close. But excellent for gate camping and that quick ceptor kill.
I do however Love my Sacrilidge as it has missles for that little bit of added defence, Yeah i know it doesnt hit has hard but knowing u may survive helps :P but my pers fav is my Vagabond, FAst has missles 650 720s love em to bits ceptor killer,
But thats my view,
If i was choosing like youve asked then Zealot. and save up for a sac :)
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2005.05.22 01:26:00 -
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Originally by: Meridius
Originally by: Lucian Alucard
Its wierd I have found that as far as wepons go Lasers are the best at the medium and small sizes but are the worst turret at the large size.
Err, you mean the opposite right?
No, t2 tachs/megas do less damage then t2 1400s and 425MM Rails. Check the Dps,they are all pretty close but lasers do less.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2005.05.22 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Dash Ripcock
Originally by: Nyphur
Originally by: Necrologic
you can't fit a 1600 plate and even electrons without several rcu 2's.
Indeed. I run 5 Dual 150mms on my setup. It's for NPCing.
As for the claim of tanking an entire fleet - that's a rather big claim, considering most 'fleets' these days fit for maximum damage over range. Extra armour or not - you'll only prolong your existence for a few seconds...
It's an NPC fleet and if things get tough, I use a remote repairing friend. My Deimos has incredible resistances to all four damage types since the complex fleet that I tank deal all four. The 1600mm plate is the difference between loving between repairer cycles or not, so it's definitely required.
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Verel Torellia
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Posted - 2005.05.22 18:41:00 -
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Whats all this HAC killing BS's malarky :), i can take a sacralidge in under 1 1/2 mins with my large energy destablizer in my raven, its funny how worried they get when there cap is gone in 30 seconds  , just take there resistances from em, if there using active resistances they dog food in no time, and cuz most HAC get pretty close the 25km on the destablizer is more than enuff 
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Dave10
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Posted - 2005.05.22 21:40:00 -
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Originally by: Verel Torellia
Whats all this HAC killing BS's malarky :), i can take a sacralidge in under 1 1/2 mins with my large energy destablizer in my raven, its funny how worried they get when there cap is gone in 30 seconds , just take there resistances from em, if there using active resistances they dog food in no time, and cuz most HAC get pretty close the 25km on the destablizer is more than enuff
1 1/2 mins pre patch raven? enjoy the missile nerf
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Helena Alucard
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Posted - 2005.05.23 07:20:00 -
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Actually Domis and phoons will be the best post patch for taking on HAC due to drone space and cap neut fitting
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Ratchet Darkblade
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Posted - 2005.05.24 01:25:00 -
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Why has no one mentioned puting tech2 250 rails on the Deimos. I am taking down Lv4 Missions in it no probs with a hard hitting 70k range. You can still tank and are still quite mobile with a AB on. All though the blasters setup with ion 2's is leathal indeed.
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