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sorry forgot I had posted here too, I wasn't sure where to post it, ship discussions actually seemed more likely,

also I was trying to be friendly but its as if everyone on eve must troll


but I do appreciate it

if isk was no object, what would you use?

Having flown every ship in the game, including all the fleet issue, pirate issue and marauders, i'd have to say a vargur lists as my favorite for a few reasons:


1: It can do all damage types.
2: Second fastest battleship in the game, second only to a mach.
3: Insane resists because it's a Tech 2 ship.
4: No reliance on cap to fire it's guns....It only needs it for shield tank.
5: It can seriously put out some serious DPS( think 1200+ DPS).
6: Autocannon fitted, it can hit targets at 70 kms, something wich a blaster boat could only dream of.

Too bad it has 13.2 sensor strength and has garbage powergrid. The vindicator is better.

Too bad it has 13.2 sensor strength and has garbage powergrid. The vindicator is better.

Since it's 4 guns do double damage, the low powergrid is more than enough for the items that use the most amount of power, and yes the low sensor strength is it's only real drawback, but then again the ships that can ECM it are ships that also do little damage to begin with like falcons or scorpions anyhow, not to mention having 3 utility slots open up top, wich one would without a doubt be a cloak and unlike other ships that need those 8 high slots to do maximum damage, doesn't affect a marauders damage output in a negative way and just takes longer to get a lock and can't be scanned down while cloaked.


My reasoning is based purely on one on one confrontations and the vindicator does a lot of damage, but it's all kinetic and heat based damage using weapons that are useless beyond 15 kms, while the vargur hits to 70 kms and when dealing with a vindicator, i'd switch to explosive damage wich the vindicator has very low resist towards that type of damage.


So unless the vindicator warps in right on top of the vargur where it can lock, web and warp scramble and fire away immediately afterwards, the vargur is heavily advantaged by being able to fire from a range where the vindicator can only fire up the MWD making it's signature quite a bit larger and burns through a lot of cap, and also burning cap for the tank until it gets into range to fire the blasters onto the vargur, wich itself is equipped with an AB( at least mine is), so it'll take time to catch up to it and the vargur will hit the vindicator with at least a good 10~15 volleys since autocannons fire pretty fast.

So the biggest variable is from what range does this fight start in order to reduce the natural advantage of autocannons basically, and in pvp confrontations, i'd also fit the vargur with a cap injector to take advantage of it's large cargo hold wich can hold a lot more cap charges than the vindicator ever would be able to, should the fight turn out to who runs out of cap first should both ships rely on their tank for extended periods of time.


I know marauders are a pain in the ass to train for, but they do have their advantages.