Just re-sayin.

Ive already did it, but this idea is way more profitable for everyone than thrasher suicide ganks.

Seriously I expected a little bit more from you people than premade one liners, noone has come yet with a good point on why this idea is bad, just cheap trolling and nothing else.

Everyone can play how they want, except for those people playing how they want in high sec? I see ...

The people in high sec generally don't care what's going on in low or null, but it seems low and null just can't stand whatever is going on in high sec. It'd be great if all the nullbears trying to change high sec would spend their time in the "how to fix null" threads proposing ideas to make null better, instead of posting how to make high sec suck so people will go to null.

To boil down the 40 page thread you are ignoring- this is a stealth "nerf hi sec, they make more money than I do" null bear thread. It is NOT more profitable for hi sec dwellers, all it does is attempt to force more targets for null and low sec dwellers. It isn't going to happen. High sec breaks up, high sec dwellers leave the game.

It just means the remainder all move into the couple systems around Jita and don't move. It would tighten up the game, not spread it out.

CCP got rid of superhighways, so the player base moved from Yulai to Jita. You break up high sec, and everyone will move into whatever the biggest island left is.

As I said- you don't like it, suicide about it. Enough suicide ganks, and people leave overpopulated areas. Suicide enough Hulks, they quit flying hulks. Quit looking to CCP to change the box to what YOU want, and start moving the sand yourself.

Have you read my whole post? The benefits are in general-term, for the people in hi-sec too, havin a wider spectre of viable professions and making industry more accesible for new players is a GREAT benefit for us all imo.

I'm not seeing how separating highsec and creating barriers between these islands would lead to a greater spread of people. Wouldn't this just lead to greater concentration in more popular areas as you've added another harder to overcome obstacle to travel rather than just having time, which is the case now, being the primary factor in highsec travel?

I'd like to see this changed, please, to not include the word "autism". You are using it far too loosely, and it's offensive. I don't mean to be uptight, which is why I'm asking nicely if you could please change it, perhaps something reminding people that avoiding the multiplayer part of a multiplayer game is a bit redundant. But autism is a very specific spectrum condition that a large group of people are trying to raise more understanding about in an effort to remove the ignorance surrounding it, and using the word with such negative connotations is not just a little bit offensive, but it belittles the efforts of many people in reminding others that autistics are just as human as anyone else.

So, I am asking nicely, please change it.

I endorse this butchering of the English language and its colloquialisms.

I actually thought the hearth part was pretty imagery, but then he used 'autism' to describe general stupid behavior, we gotta stop doing that, it's really inaccurate, and kinda not cool.

All the professions in the game are just as viable and available for one player as they are the next, regardless of what region of space they live in. In fact, it is more often than not the player's choice of profession that will determine what region of space they choose to live in, not the other way around.

Thats why a wise distribution of resources would be critical.

Distribution is somewhat meaningless at the moment.

Thats what needs to be changed.

The core issue there isn't highsec.

The core issue is that we tryin to ice skate on concrete, we need a rework on the field where the game is being played.

We-¦re encouraged to feel free to do whatever, and to have an everybody-in-the-same-boat experience, but the current distribution of space wont let us.

Are you HONESTLY sayin Industry is viable for a new player? The only thing theyve available is mindless mining.

Yes I am. I still make cash on T1 modules. Are they going to make T2 right out the gate? Nope. They aren't going to do level 4's and wormhole sleepers out the gate either. You CAN do level 4 courier missions with under 24hours of skill training, and in the time that it takes to earn the cash for a freighter, you'll have trained the skills. You can effectively PVP within the first week by going tackler.

You obviously have no idea how to build a trade hub, or anything about industry. I started in Yulai after it had been deserted for Jita, and I still made cash. I am making cash right now in the back boondocks of the Amarr empire.

Industry requires a different real life skillset than missions or pvp. You have to have the ability to read graphs, charts, and excel spreadsheets, and enjoy doing so. Combing through to find out what is still profitable to build is a little time consuming, but enjoyable for the industry minded.

Coming back after a long break I went right back to Industry with a new alt, and was making a profit a week later. The new alt is also doing research, planetary interaction, and is working on the standings to drop a POS- which she'll have the skills for by the time her courier mission fed standings are high enough:P

Your suggestion doesn't do that, nor have you gone into any other factors of it that would make it have the desired effect. So far as best I can tell the suggestion you have made will have the opposite effect. Concentration rather than spreading of people. More unused space and possibly a harder time for newer players getting into transport and industry roles.

...its bad for the game and thats a fact not an opinion,...

i fail to see the problem. there are alot of pilots that enjoy highsec, why take that away for it? if you like lawless space you have that avaliable, why limite ppls choices.

And if ppl sell stuff under production price just buy it and sell for profit? how hard is that.

do you really believe it will be for the greater good of the game to deprive a VERY large part of the userbase from what they love?

I say again, the "perfect skillset" doesn't take long to train. I DID IT WITH A NEW ALT. She easily earned the cash for the the tech 1 modules by courier missions- she has no mining skills. She did it without a single isk or BPO from my main. The same industrial they give you for free in the indy path tutorial will work for running courier missions all the way up to level 4's.

While training the skills, the new player can max copy those module BPOs to sell to the tech 2 manufacturers, and at a profit. Buying the BPO from someone who has already well researched it so you don't have to bake it yourself is another way to go. (T2 invention doesn't need perfect sub T1 BPCs, just max run BPCs- any newbie with a fresh BPO can do that). They can choose to mine to remove the markup that comes with buying minerals on the market, but that takes time out of the skill plan. They can put up buy orders, and it not take much in the way of trade skill training. The cash for that start is also earned by courier missions.

The fact that you think T1 is "sterile" (I'm guessing you mean profitless) shows you are not an industrial manufacturing player at all. By "mathematical fact" you mean you are guessing, or because you looked up a mod or 2, then all must be bad. You are the reason I make cash on those mods. Any industrial oriented new player can make cash in industry.

In before the "but there's no slots in Jita". I make and sell in the back end of the empire, and make nice cash doing so. Any new player can learn to do the same, if they are industry oriented.

Got 4 baking right now. You know if you leave Jita there are slots available with only a short wait, right?

Obviously not.