Confirming I got scammed by getting paid 7% interest.
Damn you Joshua, you got us good.

mmmm the delicious tears of someone who has nothing else to fill his time with and is butthurt because:

1: He attempted to scam 5B from me and failed miserably
2: He has spoken to most of my investors and they've laughed in his face
3: He claims I'm a scammer and promises to destroy my business but has attracted more attention to my fund and actually increased my business rather than hurt it
4: He placed a multimillion ISK bounty on me and not my alts which actually conduct my daily business and consequently wasted his ISK.

Well done sir. Please continue doing the same thing you have been so far since you've somehow managed to help my business and waste some of your own ISK and time. /golfclap

Vaughn Lampen Investments - Audit Report - 4 JAN 2013

Currency Balance - Vaughn Lampen Investments

Primary Trading Account: 41,705,988,079.82 ISK
Secondary Support Accounts: 294,456,791.89 ISK

Current Balance of All Accounts: 42,000,444,871.71 ISK

As many of you are probably aware at this point all of the investments are held on my trader alt who distributes currency back to Joshua Vaughn Lampen or my alts as needed to support my operations. I have not included a screenshot of my EVEMON home screen to support the declared balance of my secondary accounts as the amount is quite simply too low for most people to care about.

Vaughn Lampen Investment Assets

Blueprints: 3.71B ISK
Planetary Interaction Commodities: 2.32B ISK
Manufacturing Materials: 2.74B ISK
Sovereignty Structures and POS's: 4.86B ISK
Player Operated Starbase Fuel: 4.03B ISK
Ships: 4.71B ISK
Miscellaneous Property: 2.67B ISK

Gross Worth of Vaughn Lampen Investments

67,040,444,871.71 ISK

Current Liabilities

Current Investment Account Balance: 24,657,852,600 ISK
Outstanding Interest Payments: 1,395,300,000 ISK

Total Liabilities: 26,053,152,600 ISK

Net Worth of Vaughn Lampen Investments

Currency: 15,947,292,271.71 ISK
Assets: 25,040,000,000.00 ISK

Total: 40,987,292,271.71 ISK

EVEMENTAT Charts - 7 DEC 2012 to 5 JAN 2013

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg46/jvlampen/Eve%20Investment%20Records%20-%20Lampen/AuditGraphs_zpsca059715.png

Wow it's actually kind of scary how incompetent you are. Did you drink a lot of lead-based paint as a kid? Did mom tuck you in with an asbestos blanket?

The audit was intended to determine the gross and net value of VLI. I've already elaborated on where my income comes from but thanks for not reading and just throwing around accusations(it's yielding a lot of free bumps!).

So your biggest issue is that 7% is this great return and I'm supposedly an New Phaser Inc or some nonsense. As usual your poor math and reading skills have paired up to show that your a habitual paint huffer who has more free time than good sense.

The current investment balance in VLI requires a 30 day return of 1,726,049,682 ISK in total to investors. If you'd have bothered to read my front page which discloses my income sources you'd quickly notice that this is a fraction of my non-market activities like ice mining or PI. It's really really not that hard to pay off with these and incredibly easy to pay off through market operations. Usually takes about a week with market operations depending on the sales volume.

Thanks for stopping by though and reminding us how you tried to scam me out of 5B ISK that wasn't yours and am butthurt enough about your plan to burn my legitimate business has colossally backfired.

Wow it's actually kind of scary how incompetent you are. Did you drink a lot of lead-based paint as a kid? Did mom tuck you in with an asbestos blanket?

The audit was intended to determine the gross and net value of VLI. I've already elaborated on where my income comes from but thanks for not reading and just throwing around accusations(it's yielding a lot of free bumps!).

So your biggest issue is that 7% is this great return and I'm supposedly an New Phaser Inc or some nonsense. As usual your poor math and reading skills have paired up to show that your a habitual paint huffer who has more free time than good sense.

The current investment balance in VLI requires a 30 day return of 1,726,049,682 ISK in total to investors. If you'd have bothered to read my front page which discloses my income sources you'd quickly notice that this is a fraction of my non-market activities like ice mining or PI. It's really really not that hard to pay off with these and incredibly easy to pay off through market operations. Usually takes about a week with market operations depending on the sales volume. Phaser INC and other ACTUAL Ponzi schemes promised returns so good that nobody with any sense should have believed them. If I was paying the same rate it would require 6,904,198,728 ISK because they were enticing people to deposit ISK because of weekly returns. I can't afford that amount of ISK outflow.

Thanks for stopping by though and reminding us how you tried to scam me out of 5B ISK that wasn't yours and am butthurt enough about your plan to burn my legitimate business has colossally backfired.

I confirm that I have received the interest payment as shown on the screenshot.

Grendell or Vaerah Vahrokha are both well known personalities in MD. I know VV did audits back in the day. Not sure if she still does or not.

If you just want to confirm my trading and its profitability that really shouldn't be that hard so both should be capable if they are willing to give it all a quick look.

Clamslayer,

As a small investor in this fund, I am worried about my ISK.
However, you came out of the blue,over eve-mail, accusing JVL of scamming you for 5B ISK.
No proof was given at the time.

So far, you have failed to provide any proof of said scam.
Untill then, your accusations remain just that, accusations.
You only refer to past scams, which can hardly be called factual evidence.

Untill then, JVL remains innocent.

As an aside, you have also claimed that Chorus Ambrye is running a scam with the NETCI IPO, for which no proof has been given (that I'm currently aware of).

So please, provide us with API details yourself, so we can verify your claims.
Hiding behind history does not cut it.

You could take note from the "Best Answer" here

Still waiting on that 3rd party.... I almost don't want you to find one since you provide me with SO MANY free bumps but you agreed to it and said you'd locate one so stop accusing and go find that person so that I can make you eat your words ;)

And your logic is flawed. Everyone who is given legitimacy in the community started somewhere and as Debra said not all uncollateralized bonds/offerings/etc are inherently scams.

So let's recap. You tried to scam 5B from the fund, you've tried to claim I'm a scammer, you've agreed to a 3rd party and now claim you never did even though about a dozen people saw you last night in our lovely little group chat. You've got such a sad little view of reality...

Found a reputable member of the community to do an audit on me and confirm my active trading! Figure since clam can't hold up his end of the agreement I'll just what he was supposed to and have it done.

Molic Blackbird has agreed to perform an audit of my operations and has been sent full API account data on all three accounts, my spreadsheets and other relevant information so that he can properly perform the analysis. As it'll take a day or two to do a proper as it's not a small task to sift through the wall of text that'll appear from my daily transactions/market operations.

There's this cool function in called Alt-E. You can then search for people in the game. If you don't know who he is you clearly don't frequent manufacturing, nining or market circles within the game. You could probably also do a search on the the forums but as we've already established your powers of rational thought I'll help you out:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2350428#post2350428

Can you all just shut the **** up ? I can't be ******* bothered seeing crap notifications for this mother ******* thread for some ******'s flaming. If you want, make a ******* separate thread with the title "I am pissed on Joshua Vaughn Lampen" and you can whine there all you ******* can, meanwhile stop posting here your irrelevant crap you tosser.

Now **** off!

Joshua your replies only fuel his trolling. Stop it!


**** the stars!

The proper way is for you to post in another ******* thread.

Thanks clamslayer.

You actually helped me discover a new feature this forum has to offer, respectively: http://eve-files.com/dl/259870

Arn't you just a cute little troll. You did agree to use either of the two names already mentioned, and even said you would contact one. You then moved on to try and setup an IRL meet with josh. Real kinky, bro.

That is a feature I didn't know about and I'll be exercising as well. In regard to clam I'm tired of entertaining him and will wait on the results of Molic's audit/analysis at this point as its clear nothing will satisfy his paranoia. As for everyone else who's encountered his childish interactions go ahead and just block him and his posts. Investors will be mailed direct results of Molic's audit as well it being posted in my news section.

clamslayer > i think you guys are all in on it'
clamslayer > actually
Arnwood > you wear a tin foil hat too?
clamslayer > not following?
Arnwood > I'm not surprised
clamslayer > is that eve lingo?


And you're obviously not very bright.

rofl

molic blackbird

famous auditor of...

I concur. I'm not set up to do any sort of audit. I don't really know why I was asked to do this. I do have API keys from Joshua Vaughn Lampen. From my reading of this thread. any sort of audit from me won't resolve anything. I'll do my best to look into Joshua's trading based on what information I can get from the API. The time spent will most likely be a complete waste as accusations of this being a scam will continue.

What Ponzi scheme ??? Hell no he is obviously legit when he says he is mining 8 hours a day each day... plus PI, report, market and so on

look at my post on page 2...

To me it's mostly suspicious because of the 'lock-in' periods for the 'investments.'

The moment an 'investment' has any kind of 'incentive' or penalty to remain invested for more than a month and reoccurring then that screams ponzi scheme.

The extra complexity to how this 'investment' vehicle is set up and how it presents itself is almost a perfect example of ponzi scheme.

Now, does that mean that this -is- one? No, it doesn't it just really looks like one, acts like one, and reads like one but it might not be one.

For people who are investing they are deciding if the risk is worth it. Clearly, to them, it is worth the risk of losing everything.

A good ponzi scheme will run for months to build up a good reputation and a lot of investments before it pulls the plug.

Greetings

I don't want this to sound wrong or anything, it has nothing to do with the guys spamming scam all over the place.


So, I would like some sort of API to check the sums that flood your wallet. I don't want any materials, character names, nufin, nor do I need to see player donations.

Just the sums.

Think you can provide that to me? As I trusted you with my money you could trust me with total confidentiality from my part. Divulging information? Ain't nobody got time for that!


Thanks.

That is completely false. There have been lots of large scale investments without collateral throughout the history of Eve that have not scammed.

BSAC, BMBE, Proton Power has run several, Akita T ran one... Those are just the ones I can think of the top of my head. If I looked into it, I could find many many more.

I didn't realize Joshua was asking for over 100b ISK. BSAC was over 700b, BMBE is well over 100b. If you add enough qualifiers to your statement, it will eventually be true.

As with any investment in Eve, if you think its a scam don't invest. No need to go out on a vendetta of claiming scam without any proof. I may have missed it in my reading of this thread, but I haven't seen anyone lay out a case for why they think this is a scam. The only argument I've seen is that all uncollateralized investments in the past have been scams, which is completely false.

For those that think this is a scam, lay out reasoned arguments for that claim. Stating this follows 5 past patterns of past scams and then not listing what those 5 items are isn't very effective in making the case that this one is a scam.

People are welcome to take it as they will.

If they are actually considering investing money that they spent hours grinding up, then i recommend they spend one hour going back over old scams to see if they recognize familiar aspects.

Also pretty sure you run or ran your own failed bond scam, so please share more of your insights. I'm all ears.

There is no relationship between Joshua and myself. I have no ISK invested in this, Josh has no ISK invested with me. It's possible that I have bought or sold items from Josh, but I've done that with thousands of people in Eve. That doesn't mean I have a relationship.


It isn't true that the majority of investments are scams either. Someone did research on investments posted on this forum a few years ago and found most of those investments are not scams.

Did anyone though?

It seems these take more and more shill alts all the time. I remember when it was, like, two. Now they are using a dozen or two.

That is probably because they were all alts lol