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Pretty GuyYeah
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:07:00 -
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The list of goons is daily swelled by the additions of fifties, of hundreds. The cause itself seems suddenly transformed from a cold abstract theory, to a living, breathing, active, and powerful CEO, going forth "conquering and to conquer." The systems of their great adversary are daily being fleeted and undid; their home system and their bounties, where the rites of their idolatrous worship have long been performed, and where goon sacrifices have long been wont to be made, are daily desecrated and deserted. The trump of the goon's fame is sounding from post to post, from system to system, and from mail to mail, and calling hundreds to their standard at a blast.
For this new and splendid success, we miners heartily rejoice in hi-sec. That that success is so much greater now than heretofore, is doubtless owing to rational causes; and if we would have it continue, we shall do well to inquire what those causes are. The warfare heretofore waged against the griefing Intemperance, has, somehow or other, been erroneous. Either the goons engaged, or the tactics they adopted have not been the most proper. These goons for the most part have been grifers, campers, and hired bounty hunters. Between these and the mass of New Eden, there is a want of approachability, if the term be admissible, partially, at least, fatal to their success. They are supposed to have no sympathy of feeling or interest, with those very persons whom it is their object to convince and persuade.
And again, it is so common and so easy to ascribe motives to rookies of these goons, other than those they profess to act upon. The griefer, it is said, advocates temperance because he is a fanatic, and desires a union of CCP and Nullsec; the camper, from his pride and vanity of hearing himself speak; and the hired bounty hunter, for his salary. But when one, who has long been known as a victim of intemperance bursts the fetters that have bound him, and appears before his neighbors "clothed, and in his right mind," a redeemed capsuleer of long-lost carebears, and stands up with tears of loss trembling in his eyes, to tell of the miseries once endured, now to be endured no more forever; of his once naked and starving fleet, now clad and fed comfortably; of a CEO long weighed down with woe, weeping, and a broken economy, now restored to health, happiness, and a renewed affection; and how easily it is all done, once it is resolved to be done; how simple their language, there is a logic, and an eloquence in it, that few, with goons feelings, can resist. They cannot say that the desire a bond of CCP and nullsec, for he is not a griefing member; they cannot say he is vain of hearing himself speak, for his whole demeanor shows he would gladly avoid speaking at all; they cannot say he speaks for pay for he receives none, and asks for none. Nor can his sincerity in any way be doubted; or his sympathy for those he would persuade to imitate his example be denied.
In my judgment, it is to the battles of this new class of rookies that our late success is greatly, perhaps epicly, owing. But, had the old-school bitter vets themselves, been of the most wise selecting, was their system of tactics, the most judicious? It seems to me, it was not. Too much denunciation against PLEX sellers and scammers was indulged in. This, I think, was both impolitic and unjust. It was impolitic, because, it is not much in the expectation of newbs to be driven to anything; still less to be driven about that which is exclusively his own business; and least of all, where such driving is to be submitted to, at the expense of pecuniary interest, or burning appetite. When the plex-seller and scammer, were incessantly told, not in accents of entreaty and persuasion, diffidently addressed by erring man to an erring brother; but in the thundering tones of anathema and denunciation, with which the lordly Judge often groups together all the crimes of the felon's life, and thrusts them in his face just ere he passes sentence of death upon him, that they were the authors of all the vice and misery and crime in the land; that they were the manufacturers and material of all the thieves and robbers and murderers that infested space; that their POS were the workshops of the devil; and that their fleet should be shunned by all the good and virtuous, as moral pestilences -- I say, when they were told all this, and in this way, it is not wonderful that they were slow, very slow, to acknowledge the truth of such denunciations, and to join the ranks of their denouncers in a hue and cry against themselves.
To have expected them to do otherwise than they did -- to have expected them not to meet denunciation with denunciation, crimination with crimination, and anathema with anathema, was to expect a reversal of a goon, which is CCPs wish, and never can be reversed. When the conduct of goons is designed to be influenced, persuasion, kind, unassuming persuasion, should ever be adopted. It is an old and a true grief, that a "drop of honey catches more flies than a gallon of gall." So with rookies. If you would win a rookie to your cause, first convince him that you are his sincere friend. Therein is a drop of honey that catches his heart, which, say what he will, is the great highroad to his reason, and which, when once gained, you will find but little trouble in convincing his judgment of the justice of your cause, if indeed that cause really be a just one. On the contrary, assume to dictate to his judgment, or to command his action, or to mark him as one to be shunned and despised, and he will retreat within himself, close all the avenues to his head and his heart; and though your cause be naked truth itself, transformed to the heaviest lance, harder than steel, and sharper than steel can be made, and though you throw it with more than Herculean force and precision, you shall be no more be able to pierce him, than to penetrate the hard shell of a tortoise with a rye straw.
/P.G.Y
Remove local. Revamp or buff drones. Buff low and nullsec. Limit null camping possibilities. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:08:00 -
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lol |
Katran Luftschreck
Royal Ammatar Engineering Corps
241
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:10:00 -
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Huh?
EvE Forum Bingo |
Shylari Avada
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
150
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:11:00 -
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Thanks for the flashback to 2009.
Yeah, we will implode eventually, didn't want this space empire anyway. |
Zack Korth
The Deneveh Collective
High Rollers
59
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:13:00 -
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tl;dr
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Mara Tessidar
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
703
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:13:00 -
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"epicly"
EveO is a circus train that is for bafflingly unclear reasons also carrying tanks of chlorine gas,-ácrashing and exploding in the middle of a small midwestern town. -áCalling it a mere train wreck gives neither the entertainment nor the horror it offers its proper due. |
Kathtrine
Wandering Lost
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:13:00 -
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Ok...uhm sure... in English please?
Oh wait you mean the Goons will fall someday. yeah they will. So what?
If your griefing about EvE online and still paying for it, your hooked and CCP has done thier job.
Now go blow somebodies ship up and stop whining about whatever your are lacking. |
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:13:00 -
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WTF |
Athena Stromgard
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:17:00 -
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Somewhat poor grammar in places but overall a good tour de force of your vocabulary. |
Pretty GuyYeah
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:21:00 -
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One manGÇÖs reply within cunning express, could one ask not for belief or judgment by those who he talks? It is safe to assert oneGÇÖs willingness would lead one to reply, if he so deems, and if, he who so desires has less or more than nothing to utter.
Remove local. Revamp or buff drones. Buff low and nullsec. Limit null camping possibilities. |
Galaxy Pig
Red Galaxy
Persona Non Gratis
293
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:21:00 -
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Wow, quite an incoherent ~stealth goonspiracy~ thread. |
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:22:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:Wow, quite an incoherent ~stealth goonspiracy~ thread.
Stealth???? |
Polly Oxford
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:23:00 -
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Your writing is horrendous, hth. |
Nylith Empyreal
Crowbar Industries.
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
193
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:25:00 -
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I love these threads.
"Oh, you can't help that," said the troll: "we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
"How do you know I'm mad?" -ásaid the forumwarrior.
"You must be," said the troll, "or you wouldn't have come here." |
Galaxy Pig
Red Galaxy
Persona Non Gratis
293
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:25:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:Wow, quite an incoherent ~stealth goonspiracy~ thread. Stealth????
It's only stealth because you have to decipher this complete nonsense to find it. |
Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
109
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:27:00 -
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Galaxy Pig wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:Wow, quite an incoherent ~stealth goonspiracy~ thread. Stealth???? It's only stealth because you have to decipher this complete nonsense to find it.
English being a second language to me, I probably had to skip the stealth parts because I could not understand at all... |
Kratisto
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:28:00 -
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I feel like, this guy, thinks commas make statements seem, perhaps, more intelligent. HERETOFORE, people declaiming in atypical, wording, have surely been measured thusly! |
Angsty Teenager
Broski North
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:33:00 -
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I am slightly jealous. I wish I could write like this. |
The Protato
Protus Correction Facility Inc.
111
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:35:00 -
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Fetch me my ice axe; I'm climbing the word wall! |
Aditu Riraille
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:37:00 -
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Frostys Virpio wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:Frostys Virpio wrote:Galaxy Pig wrote:Wow, quite an incoherent ~stealth goonspiracy~ thread. Stealth???? It's only stealth because you have to decipher this complete nonsense to find it. English being a second language to me, I probably had to skip the stealth parts because I could not understand at all...
Don't worry... those of us who call it our first language couldn't understand it either! 
"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time."
T. S. Eliot
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:45:00 -
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Please people, no trolling, quirky remarks and/or other less civil replies.
Keep the responses on topic and polite!
Consider this a warning.
ISD Ezwal
Lieutenant
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
Interstellar Services Department |
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2012.12.15 23:49:00 -
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Empires rise and fall, but evil is eternal.
If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2012.12.16 00:22:00 -
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ISD Ezwal wrote:Edit: This thread has been cleaned. Anyone not adhering to the above warning (read: breaking the forum rules on purpose), will run the risk of having their posting privileges revoked.
Maybe you should move it to CAOD where it belongs while you're at it. vOv
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan. |
Pretty GuyYeah
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Posted - 2012.12.16 00:25:00 -
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Tippia wrote:ISD Ezwal wrote:Edit: This thread has been cleaned. Anyone not adhering to the above warning (read: breaking the forum rules on purpose), will run the risk of having their posting privileges revoked. Maybe you should move it to CAOD where it belongs while you're at it. vOv
The content of my message is far too broad, and far too distant from corporations and alliances alone, especially when calling out to a receiver who is much likely noot to be in any of the two.
Post with your main.
A legend walks among us, a genius so significant he so dares to degrade himself as camouflage when you dispute. |
Polly Oxford
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.12.16 00:26:00 -
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I'm sorry, but how is telling him that is writing is horrendous trolling? It's an objective observation.
The OP is not making any point whatsoever by disguising his thin arguments behind a veil of fake eloquence. If this is his Roleplay character he can take it into the appropriate forum section for that, but if he wants to make an actual point he should focus on prose, not poetry.
In the current form the OP is nothing more than nigh unintelligible mess of rhetoric and is far more lacking in substance than the other posts in this topic.
If he wants to be taken seriously he should rewrite his post, which is exactly the point I made before. |
Pretty GuyYeah
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Posted - 2012.12.16 00:31:00 -
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Polly Oxford wrote:I'm sorry, but how is telling him that is writing is horrendous trolling? It's an objective observation.
The OP is not making any point whatsoever by disguising his thin arguments behind a veil of fake eloquence. If this is his Roleplay character he can take it into the appropriate forum section for that, but if he wants to make an actual point he should focus on prose, not poetry.
In the current form the OP is nothing more than nigh unintelligible mess of rhetoric and is far more lacking in substance than the other posts in this topic.
If he wants to be taken seriously he should rewrite his post, which is exactly the point I made before.
"If you want to avoid an answer from a dumb person, speak the same language but dispute too fiercely for him to grasp the context." - Marca Delonghi
If it was your opinion I wanted, I would have written my thread accordingly. You're free to comment as you please, however, and I invite you to do so if you can keep it civil.
Post with your main.
A legend walks among us, a genius so significant he so dares to degrade himself as camouflage when you dispute. |
Polly Oxford
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.12.16 00:36:00 -
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Maybe you should just take the thread to an appropriate forum then, because this one clearly isn't it. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1921
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Posted - 2012.12.16 00:36:00 -
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Where exactly did you copy this from, to paste it into EVEO GD?
Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd
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Polly Oxford
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
67
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Posted - 2012.12.16 00:37:00 -
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Also since you quote non-existant people this is clearly a sign, that this should be moved to the RP forum. |
Pretty GuyYeah
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Posted - 2012.12.16 00:38:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Where exactly did you copy this from, to paste it into EVEO GD?
Interesting question. Much of the phrases belong to Abraham Lincoln. The situation I communicate is much the same as his own, thus it makes for the perfect format to forward.
Post with your main.
A legend walks among us, a genius so significant he so dares to degrade himself as camouflage when you dispute. |
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