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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2005.05.23 20:40:00 -
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Once a month you have 'Concord Day' On this day all systems in EVE are invaded by concord ships and all non-war PVP comes to a halt. (There'd be warning when you log in) The carebear hordes flood into 0.0 space thumbing their noses at the impotent pirate gank squads and alliances. On this day, carebears would RULE the galaxy with a furry glove!!! Then, the next day everything would revert back to normal. Alliances and pirates would have thousands of new targets to kill, 0.0 markets would be full of goods brought from empire, and some people would have moved all their stuff to 0.0 to try living out there.
Of course the hardcore PVP players would object. How could they possibly be expected to give up non-war killing for AN ENTIRE DAY? Of course the alliances would object. All those non-targets decending on their precious belts and stripping them like locusts. (only way to prevent that is to strip them yourselves the day before)
And of course the carebears would love it. A lot of them would make it a day trip to see what's out there. To hunt and mine where the big NPC's roam then come back to empire safety. But you'd also have a lot of people who would take the opportunity to move their stuff into 0.0. They'd be setting up POS's and moving ships. Getting established in the deep black. Isn't that what CCP wants? To get people into 0.0?
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jeNK
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Posted - 2005.05.23 21:37:00 -
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I sense a disturbance in the force.. the thread.. it's... it's... it's closing.
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Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2005.05.23 21:48:00 -
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Bad idea.
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The Enslaver
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Posted - 2005.05.23 21:51:00 -
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Naturally, this post is a joke. --------
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DeGrand
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Posted - 2005.05.23 22:00:00 -
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Would be funny..esp when they get more fuel for their POS or when they try and get their newly acquired wealth out of 0.0 the next day 
I got another idea: `Jovian day` at this day the Jovians test their new teleportation-technology and `accidently` teleport everyone in Rens/Yulai to some random 0.0 location. The empirehuggers wont even have to travel then to see the wonderous roids and rats. There is a small downside tho .
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2005.05.23 22:06:00 -
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Bahhh when will people realise, forceing people to 0.0 in any of these events for the sake of "more targets" will never effing work.
Things should not be made worse in empire to force people to 0.0, things should be made better in 0.0 to get more people there.
Once player empires with npc police, senturies and whatnot come out, then the real colonising of 0.0 can begen. This is the ONLY way short of empire losing all its sentury guns and concord that will get people into 0.0. this here's mah sig': My Quote: "You can call me a carebear all you want, but your still an arrogant slimeball" |

MutationZ
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Posted - 2005.05.23 22:28:00 -
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They should then remove Concord protection the next day in Empire (for balance ofc).
Carebear corpses everywhere
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2005.05.23 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: MutationZ They should then remove Concord protection the next day in Empire (for balance ofc).
Carebear corpses everywhere
This is why i cant take the "hardcore pvp" community seriously this here's mah sig': My Quote: "You can call me a carebear all you want, but your still an arrogant slimeball" |

Galk
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Posted - 2005.05.23 22:51:00 -
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Free beer on Concord day
Seriously, id have every large barge and hauler at the ready at the start of 'concord day' at the nearest 0.0 entrance.
1 hour before the end... we would be trekin back 'loaded'.
Ohh well, there's allways next month i guess ------------------------
---- Little wonder why people were, what this person was telling my friends: http://galk.50megs.com/logs/ |

MutationZ
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Posted - 2005.05.23 22:55:00 -
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Originally by: Gamer4liff
Originally by: MutationZ They should then remove Concord protection the next day in Empire (for balance ofc).
Carebear corpses everywhere
This is why i cant take the "hardcore pvp" community seriously
Im not hardcore PvP. I do a bit of everything. It's a joke post replied to with a joke. Go and train up "sense of humour"
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Dan Black
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Posted - 2005.05.23 23:19:00 -
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rofl...
/me getting ganked by concord in 0.0 ... " oh christ, it's that time of month " /me loses ship goes to gf for the kissing and loving all night long ... "oh wait it's..."
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Jayad
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Posted - 2005.05.24 00:57:00 -
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Man that would be funny.
all these tough guys watching helplessly while the whiny snotty nosed noobs chew up the crok - lol
*Jay looks at himself*
"hold the phone, im one of them"......
This is an extreamly bad idea 
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Kin Hanyerec
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Posted - 2005.05.24 02:16:00 -
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what about doing a "no Concord" day in empire while Concord is in 0.0 ? 
that would be really really fun
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Kin Hanyerec
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Posted - 2005.05.24 02:17:00 -
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Originally by: MutationZ They should then remove Concord protection the next day in Empire (for balance ofc).
Carebear corpses everywhere
that makes sense... since concord is in 0.0 they can't protect empire.
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Dianabolic
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Posted - 2005.05.24 02:21:00 -
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Originally by: Gamer4liff
Originally by: MutationZ They should then remove Concord protection the next day in Empire (for balance ofc).
Carebear corpses everywhere
This is why i cant take the "hardcore pvp" community seriously
And that original post and your reply is why the "hardcore pvp" community (who the hell are they, anyway?) can't take you seriously.
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Stratharn
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Posted - 2005.05.24 03:43:00 -
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Look, the only impediment to getting lots of people into 0.0 is the bottlenecks. Loosen up on those a bit, and I bet you'd see a hell of a lot more people giving 0.0 a go.
Rob http://psygnal.blogspot.com/
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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2005.05.24 06:25:00 -
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Edited by: Bubba Fett on 24/05/2005 06:25:37 LOL. You people are hilarious! You whine about how 0.0 is so deserted, but freak out at the prospect that you'd have to stop killing for 1 day a month. 29 days a month just isn't enough. Only fighting formal wars on that one day just isn't enough. Getting carebears killed by warping into a belt and boosting the NPC's they're fighting just isn't enough.
Sure they might take some of your precious ore and leave. But if you need every unit of crokite that bad, why are you leaving it in a belt. You're worried they might kill all your NPC's then leave with the valuable loot? Couldn't you just get there first and kill the NPC's yourself? See, the thing to remember is that you're there first. The outsiders are only going to take what you leave. If you really have to have it for yourself you just take it first.
And yet, you'd be quite happy if CCP was willing to push those people into your gunsights without making things any more difficult for you.
It doesn't sound like you've got much of a grip on your territory if letting in outsiders one day a month is THAT big a problem. No wonder all the gates are camped if you that scared of what the outsiders might take from you. :)
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.05.24 07:31:00 -
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Originally by: Bubba Fett Edited by: Bubba Fett on 24/05/2005 06:25:37 LOL. You people are hilarious! You whine about how 0.0 is so deserted, but freak out at the prospect that you'd have to stop killing for 1 day a month. 29 days a month just isn't enough. Only fighting formal wars on that one day just isn't enough. Getting carebears killed by warping into a belt and boosting the NPC's they're fighting just isn't enough.
Sure they might take some of your precious ore and leave. But if you need every unit of crokite that bad, why are you leaving it in a belt. You're worried they might kill all your NPC's then leave with the valuable loot? Couldn't you just get there first and kill the NPC's yourself? See, the thing to remember is that you're there first. The outsiders are only going to take what you leave. If you really have to have it for yourself you just take it first.
And yet, you'd be quite happy if CCP was willing to push those people into your gunsights without making things any more difficult for you.
It doesn't sound like you've got much of a grip on your territory if letting in outsiders one day a month is THAT big a problem. No wonder all the gates are camped if you that scared of what the outsiders might take from you. :)
I'm sorry but you are surely not serious with this post are you?
For starters your generalisation regarding the attitudes of all of 0.0 based corporation's pilots is extreme and unjustified. I could just as well say that everyone who does not participate in PvP every day is a fur covered, veldspar addicted, level 4 mission running carebear which would obviously be utter nonsense.
I'm not sure I've ever seen a 0.0 based pilot or PvP-centric pilot really whine that there are not enough people in 0.0, to the contrary it is usually a denizen of empire space who raises the issue on the forums that large area's of 0.0 are underpopulated and underutilised. If any of us based in 0.0 actually talk about encouraging more people out into 0.0 it is not merely to get you in our gunsights it is more often than not because we believe that we are genuinely having more fun than some of you in empire, that you are missing out and that we want you to enjoy some of the stuff that we do (misguided or at least debatable as those thoughts may be)!
I don't see anyone freaking out at having to stop killing for a day either. You don't seriously think that we all PvP 100% of our time do you? Even those of us that have no other source of income still have to go shopping every now and again 
The issue is not in the slightest about losing 1 day's worth of mineral or npc resources from claimed territory in 0.0, more accurately it is the wish to keep 0.0 as it is now, an area completely free of in game restrictions where the players make the rules. Deep space is where we live out our fantasies of creating our empires, alliances, communities, rivalries, intrigue and conflicts, I for one desperately want to protect and enhance that as it's where a lot of player driven content flourishes and (no offence CCP devs) player driven content > in game content every time, which in a MMOG is exactly how it should be. Eve is about the players not the AI.
For about a milionth time in response to retarded threads about 0.0 space and it's inhabitants, the choke points are not all camped 23/7, everyone who lives in 0.0 is not a bloodthirsty maniac, we do not want a million carebears lined up so we can Counterstrike-stylee amass a huge kill point total on some killboard and finally, 99% of us have a balanced understanding and appreciation of the fact that Eve needs both combat focused and non-combat focused pilots.
If you want access to the ore and npc's in 0.0 space moving Concord out there one day a month is about the most ridiculous suggestion I have ever heard. Refer to this post on how to sensibly get access to 0.0 space and it's content.
Lastly, adopting extreme views that stereotype people and generalise about playing styles with no tolerance for how other people want to play the game is not at all constructive. Get some perspective.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.05.24 08:11:00 -
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Its all true. Blacklight eats Babies !!!!!11
bloodthirsty PIWATE !!!!
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.05.24 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Darken Two
Its all true. Blacklight eats Babies !!!!!11
bloodthirsty PIWATE !!!!
Busted 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Jayad
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Posted - 2005.05.24 15:01:00 -
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blacklight is an enemy in a friendly way :)
In all seriousness, this idea is just not practical (which is unfortunate because the comedy would be hilarious) for inverting the security of all systems.
Imagin the day old noobs in starter systems that are the most hostile LOL hehe.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.05.24 15:03:00 -
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I think this was a joke guys.
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meowcat
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Posted - 2005.05.24 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine I think this was a joke guys.
it's still an interesting idea. 0.0 would fill up with POSes overnight :p
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.05.24 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine I think this was a joke guys.
Shows how much drivel has been posted in the forums about this stuff recently that I can't tell a joke from a whine anymore! 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.05.24 15:26:00 -
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Originally by: meowcat
Originally by: Rod Blaine I think this was a joke guys.
it's still an interesting idea. 0.0 would fill up with POSes overnight :p
hmm 0.0 IS full of pos's Meow. _______________________________________________
Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues. |

Derisor
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Posted - 2005.05.24 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Bubba Fett Once a month you have 'Concord Day' On this day all systems in EVE are invaded by concord ships and all non-war PVP comes to a halt. (There'd be warning when you log in) The carebear hordes flood into 0.0 space thumbing their noses at the impotent pirate gank squads and alliances. On this day, carebears would RULE the galaxy with a furry glove!!! Then, the next day everything would revert back to normal. Alliances and pirates would have thousands of new targets to kill, 0.0 markets would be full of goods brought from empire, and some people would have moved all their stuff to 0.0 to try living out there.
Of course the hardcore PVP players would object. How could they possibly be expected to give up non-war killing for AN ENTIRE DAY? Of course the alliances would object. All those non-targets decending on their precious belts and stripping them like locusts. (only way to prevent that is to strip them yourselves the day before)
And of course the carebears would love it. A lot of them would make it a day trip to see what's out there. To hunt and mine where the big NPC's roam then come back to empire safety. But you'd also have a lot of people who would take the opportunity to move their stuff into 0.0. They'd be setting up POS's and moving ships. Getting established in the deep black. Isn't that what CCP wants? To get people into 0.0?
Suggestion man .... stop sniffing glue. --------- The words "Exciting" and "Safe" are mutually exclusive; pick one. |

meowcat
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Posted - 2005.05.24 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine
Originally by: meowcat
Originally by: Rod Blaine I think this was a joke guys.
it's still an interesting idea. 0.0 would fill up with POSes overnight :p
hmm 0.0 IS full of pos's Meow.
yes but they're all owned by xetic 
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Bubba Fett
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Posted - 2005.05.24 19:22:00 -
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Originally by: Rod Blaine I think this was a joke guys.
LOL. It was no joke guys. (that's what makes it funny)
I've been playing EVE for a long time as an empire carebear. I've visited 0.0, but have no desire to live there with EVERY ship in space as an enemy.
I guess I just don't understand the 0.0 mindset. See, in empire I've got lots of stuff to keep me entertained. I've got a HUGE market to play in and thousands of escrow deals in easy reach. I've got agent missions and complexes, ice belts and ore asteroids, factories and labs. I can even kill people if I want to find a war to join. If CCP said "we're taking away mining for 1 day a month", or missions, or complexes, or even concord protection, I'd find something else to do. And for that one day a month I could cope with different rules since there's so much else to keep me entertained.
What do you have to keep you entertained? No rules. You say you're not worried about losing ore to outsiders. You say you're not worried about losing NPC's to outsiders. But the one thing you do seem bothered by is the idea of loosing your 'No Rules' killing zone. .....Not Even for a day.
Apparently, it's not the ores that make 0.0 good. It's certainly not the markets. It's not the alliances staking out their territory. Apparently the ONLY thing that makes 0.0 worth going to is that you can kill anybody you want. ....EVERY DAY, 23/7 It sounds like 0.0 space is a one-trick pony and most of us empire dwellers will never see the attraction.
Does that about sum it up?
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.05.24 19:25:00 -
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and yet another one....
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Burga Galti
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Posted - 2005.05.24 21:11:00 -
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Edited by: Burga Galti on 24/05/2005 21:12:20
Originally by: Bubba Fett
Originally by: Rod Blaine I think this was a joke guys.
LOL. It was no joke guys. (that's what makes it funny)
I've been playing EVE for a long time as an empire carebear. I've visited 0.0, but have no desire to live there with EVERY ship in space as an enemy.
I guess I just don't understand the 0.0 mindset. See, in empire I've got lots of stuff to keep me entertained. I've got a HUGE market to play in and thousands of escrow deals in easy reach. I've got agent missions and complexes, ice belts and ore asteroids, factories and labs. I can even kill people if I want to find a war to join. If CCP said "we're taking away mining for 1 day a month", or missions, or complexes, or even concord protection, I'd find something else to do. And for that one day a month I could cope with different rules since there's so much else to keep me entertained.
What do you have to keep you entertained? No rules. You say you're not worried about losing ore to outsiders. You say you're not worried about losing NPC's to outsiders. But the one thing you do seem bothered by is the idea of loosing your 'No Rules' killing zone. .....Not Even for a day.
Apparently, it's not the ores that make 0.0 good. It's certainly not the markets. It's not the alliances staking out their territory. Apparently the ONLY thing that makes 0.0 worth going to is that you can kill anybody you want. ....EVERY DAY, 23/7 It sounds like 0.0 space is a one-trick pony and most of us empire dwellers will never see the attraction.
Does that about sum it up?
Close but no cigar. You see, 0.0 isn't about no rules. It's about your rules, whatever they may be. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Blood and vegenance. Law of the jungle. Or whatever takes your fancy. I'm a 0.0er, I shoot people on occasion sure, but it's not my life.
0.0 is about freedom from the rules which you must live under in empire. Sure, empire will protect you from your enemies, but it will also protect your enemies from you. In 0.0 you have the right to extract self-righteous retribution from those who cross you if you so choose. 0.0 has agent missions and complexes, it has ice belts are ore fields, factories and labs. The only thing 0.0 really lacks compared to empire is economy and that is simply because many territorial cartels are too afraid of supplying the enemy to build one.
1.0 is playing a game, 0.0 is creating a game.
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