if i didn't fly anything bigger that a bc after 3 years what is the point in playing?

Well, that depends. What do you want the point to be?

If you look at it as a game of GÇ£get the bigger shipGÇ¥, then yes, that kind of progress is perhaps a bit anaemic. If you define the game as GÇ£start a well-established corpGÇ¥, then what you can fly is completely irrelevant. The point is that you decide what the point in playing is, so that question is only one you can (and have to) answer for yourself.

For my purposes, it's an utterly nonsensical question. I decided early on to never train anything that requires a battleship skill, and here I am, five years on, and can't fly anything bigger than a BC GÇö after all, what's the point in doing that? Anything bigger than a BC is just slow and lumbering and for sissiesGǪ

can i have your account?

but if i cannot afford to fly anything smaller than bc and lose occasionaly/ kill occasionally how am i suppose to pvp?

HTFU don't fly what you cant afford to lose etc

Find friends to PvP with. Don't go into dangerous space alone until you know what you are doing PvP-wise. As a start you might ask the people who blew you up about whether they can help you learn to be a better PvP pilot: will they take you into their corporation? It might seem like a crazy idea, but you already know that they play the same time that you do, so you know they'll be around when you're playing. It doesn't hurt to ask: the worst that will happen is they will laugh at you, place a billion ISK bounty on your head and hunt you down to the end of the world. But they very well might take you in and give you a chance to soar.

You could also start trying to PvP in cheaper ships than a Legion. What about getting into Faction Warfare and flying frigates for a while? Frigates are far cheaper than cruisers (strategic or otherwise), so you can afford to learn a few lessons the hard way.

Don't give up just because you made a few mistakes. Learn from the mistakes and most importantly try to build a support network: not necessarily friends who will fly with you, but at least people whose advice leads to further success.

that is also one of my points, ican fly 3 races bs's but don't as i like movabilty rather than sitting almost still

but if i cannot afford to fly anything smaller than bc and lose occasionaly/ kill occasionally how am i suppose to pvp?
as it is at the moment i dont even have enough to update my clone since i got podded earlier even if i was to undock without an updataed clone how am i supposed to make any isk worth mentioning my skills don't/cant allow me to trade profitably yet plus i dont have the patience to adjust orders every couple of minutes. so what can i do?

You could also start trying to PvP in cheaper ships than a Legion. What about getting into Faction Warfare and flying frigates for a while? Frigates are far cheaper than cruisers (strategic or otherwise), so you can afford to learn a few lessons the hard way.

That legion killmail indicates you were doing mini-professions in 0.0... without a cloaking device. There's yer problem right there

let me start by saying yes i am but hurt and yes tears are involved.
loss mails to start so here you go:
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18256048#mail
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=18256050#mail


eve fails and this is why i think it does:
i have played eve for over 3 years was first war dec'ed after i had only been playing 2 months or so went on for over a month, i died lots and lots in what i could fly at the time (not many people will try to fight war deccers full stop)

thought it wasn't too bad as i was young so expected to die in pvp, however i have tried everything from wormholes to incursions to care baring running lvl 4 missions and a bit of null to make isk to try and better myself both SP wise and what ships i have to use in case of pvp.

but guess what? dosent matter what you can or do fly you will still ALWAYS get blobbed and lose whatever it is you are flying within a matter of 0-2 minutes!

this is where the game fails

people want more people to risk their stuff in pvp but if say to fit a t2 bc it takes 80-100 mill depending on you're fit and you will end up dying in a minute or so to make the isk in game even running incursions you are looking at at least 1 hour, want to fly something more expensive? still going to die in the same time but spend a lot more time playing to just make isk to pay for it.

this is why i am done with this game, i have played for over 3 years have 46 mill SP and you know what i have to show for it? 130 mill isk no assets of value no ships capable of lvl 4's or making isk of any kind nothing.
that is why i am done with eve, because yes HTFU don't fly what you cant afford to lose etc but if i didn't fly anything bigger that a bc after 3 years what is the point in playing? and when you try to pvp guess what you die within a minute,

the only way to be successful in this game is to outnumber you're opponent by far or spend RL money on plexes to pay for your next ship.

/rant over

Looks like you've been flying way above what you can afford for a long time.

Since you already mentioned that your stuff is worthless, I will not ask you for it, instead some tips out of my head:

1. Wtf is wrong with your corp? They let you fly expensive t3s and then laugh in your face when you get blown up until you are broke?
If this impression is true, you should look for an other corp, one that either has a ship replacement program or one whose fleet doctrines do not always involve ships that cost > 1 B

2. A skilled combat pilot with your amount of SP and 150 M should have no problems to grind his money back up. Heck, if everything else fails, just sell a plex on the market, get yourself a fully fit NApoc and grind level 4s like a boss.

3. If you like pvp to be your main focus, you will lose money and need some kind of steady income from other sources.
Remember that all the pvp corps are looking for "self-sufficient" pilots?
So either ship down in future, get yourself an indy alt, train some moneymaking skills with your main (mostly PI or Invention, Mining is to time consuming and boring) or buy plex regularily and convert them into isk.

Your English is really bad.
This might come as a complete surprise to you, but EVE is a multiplayer game. Why are you complaining about other people violencing your ships in a multiplayer game? It's clear that the real issue is your inability to make friends.

this is why i am done with this game, i have played for over 3 years have 46 mill SP and you know what i have to show for it? 130 mill isk no assets of value no ships capable of lvl 4's or making isk of any kind nothing.

17-1 odds are fair? i would'nt give a **** if it was even 5v1 but there must be a fair limit somewhere.
also not everyone is in an aliance with thousands of members

17-1 odds are fair? i would'nt give a **** if it was even 5v1 but there must be a fair limit somewhere.
also not everyone is in an aliance with thousands of members

heres a top tip when playing EVE


Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.

if i didn't fly anything bigger that a bc after 3 years what is the point in playing