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Daniel Whateley Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated 0	Posted - 2012.12.19 12:18:00 - [91] - Quote oops... clicked quote instead of edit
Simetraz State War Academy Caldari State 546	Posted - 2012.12.19 12:30:00 - [92] - Quote Well to answer the title of your thread. Null gives you freedom to do what you want and stake out something that is yours. Null does have some Issues but fixing would not be easy, and you pretty much have the rip everything apart to do it. So it won't happen cause the players won't let CCP do what needs to be done. For the body of your message. Well the vast majority could care less about high-sec. Others are jealous of there fellow null-sec's who have alts in high-sec to have the best of both worlds so to speak. And the grass is always greener on the other side. And there are some forum dwellers that decided to make a issue out of nothing. EVERYBODY KNOWS
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1467	Posted - 2012.12.19 13:03:00 - [93] - Quote Tara Read wrote: I lived in Null briefly That explains why your rant contains awful infomation that you're trying to pass off as fact. It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 5532	Posted - 2012.12.19 13:17:00 - [94] - Quote Daniel Whateley wrote: Daniel Whateley wrote: let me add my comment to this post... null sec has the possibility of getting you a couple of bil isk a day, doing ded's and mag sites, safer than high sec too... cause there is hardly anyone down there, you cant just waltz on in though, you will get caught unless your lucky, especially if you don't know pvp that well. once you find a good little place to hold out inyou can earn so much isk its unreal, usually its best to join one of the bigger alliances who live there so you get system upgrades where you can rat (like missions) and earn anything between 10mil to 55mil every 20 minute bounty tick, i used to fly a xtype vindicator fitted for max damage, raked in 30mil every 20 mins from sansha's - from blasters! got the whole fitting in null sec from ded's, and every time i went out and scanned the 20 something systems i used to scan, i would find about 3 minimum DED's, once i found about 10 ded's was busy the whole day, made 800mil in just overseer's effects, and mag sites i used to ignore just because my arazu i rigged to do them blew up in one... :p definitely better to go to null sec than stay in high sec, cause you also cant just fly a fully deadspace fit ship and think youll survive jita undock or even anywhere in high sec... concord is there as a penalty not to save your ship, and as for low sec, thats even safer, if you don't like bubbles, a cloak down there would make anything you do easy. Null sec isn't terrible, if you think it is, your doing it wrong! What if I want to do something other than smoosh red pluses? MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button."
Tara Read The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion. 184	Posted - 2012.12.19 13:17:00 - [95] - Quote Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: Tara Read wrote: Kiss my Jolly Rodger ass. Tell us how you really feel. To give you some credit, people won't undock to fight you because they have nothing to really gain from it. Overall, nullsec already has the greatest amount of PvP losses, so you aren't bringing anything to nullsec that nullsec doesn't already have. the only other thing worth doing is ratting, and if you disrupt that, they can go shoot red crosses anywhere. On the flip side, don't complain that you got outnumbered. It is tired and pathetic, especially when it is common knowledge that nullsec has things like cynos and big fleets. The big fleets are a selling point even if you personally think it is beneath you. Outnumbered? It has nothing to do with numbers but everything with personal weakness on your end. You rely upon capital fleets to shore up the lack of knowledgeable sub cap pilots to engage people with. After all you said it yourself. Your main cannon fodder is nothing but bleeding heart Carebears. You aren't concerned with decent engagements but isk. Your sheep aren't used to combat but rats. So when the time comes you all scatter unless someone gets on the horn to call for backup. THAT is what's killing this game. I could care less if you bring 100 Supers and drop on me. I do however care if it's because your little worker bee's are too chicken **** to figure out it's not just Orbit and click F1. Your Alliance is turning Eve into a sandbox of mundane and mediocre combat. The proof is in the pudding. Eve is nothing but a war of Attrition plain and simple.
Tara Read The Generic Pirate Corporation Fusion. 184	Posted - 2012.12.19 13:19:00 - [96] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: Tara Read wrote: I lived in Null briefly That explains why your rant contains awful infomation that you're trying to pass off as fact. I've fought in Null Sec for years and understand the ins and outs. I however never shacked up with a Null Sec based alliance until last year and found out the shocking truth. Your one liners are just as bad as theirs. But go on little worker bee. Keep buzzing up Mittens ass and grab that honey for him. After all you own "sov."
psycho freak Snuff Box 60	Posted - 2012.12.19 13:20:00 - [97] - Quote Alot players think o.o is the endgame they think empire = starter losec = intermidiate o.o = pro well in actual fact its bull eve is a mmorg were you pay your sub you live and do what you like most players iv flown with over the years including my self have left o.o and returned to losec not becouse of isk makeing or anything els to do with is its becouse we like to play the game our way and not be a lemming or sheep ppl still live o.o becouse they like it most ppl dont so they leave i dont like blobing,beeing told were i can mine,rat, farm nom,put pos up or listning to some emo tard high on internet spaceship power but its in some ppls nature to follow and be part of a heard my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k nop cant find it
Zoctrine Perkone Caldari State 35	Posted - 2012.12.19 13:26:00 - [98] - Quote Malcanis wrote: You were perfectly fine with being in the largest blue coalition in history to take down the NC C.A.O.D. is That Way --------> Malcanis wrote: Same Crap Over and Over Again... C.A.O.D. is That Way --------> RomeStar wrote: Claims HS is Better over NS Hmmm... Move to HighSec? Kinda an easy one, no? Proletariat Tingtango wrote: boy ima bounty you n pop you upside the head for being that dumb. pay more attention in class when school resumes. Remove the mirror in front of you and please, by all means GÇ£doGÇ¥ play attention in school...
Zoctrine Perkone Caldari State 35	Posted - 2012.12.19 13:26:00 - [99] - Quote No More Heroes wrote: I live here because my friends live here. Also- in the tutorial I was promised by Aura that I could carve out an empire for myself. Don't see that happening in highsec So you have chosen to be there... Seems all fine by me, why complain about a decision you have made? Weaselior wrote: yeah you just made our case for us thanks duder sending dis post to ccp entitled "i told you the balance was out of whack" The bellow quote will help you... Proletariat Tingtango wrote: boy ima bounty you n pop you upside the head for being that dumb. pay more attention in class when school resumes. Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: Still nothing but ratting and structure shooting fleets. The bellow quote for simplicity... Zoctrine wrote: There's so many threads about how null is broken, how to fix it, why and what not, however, much like CCP these threads tend to over-complicate what is really very simple, here's 3 changes to vastly improve null: Make Stations Destructible! Remove Jump Bridges! Remove Reinforce Timers!
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1468	Posted - 2012.12.19 13:35:00 - [100] - Quote Tara Read wrote: Mallak Azaria wrote: Tara Read wrote: I lived in Null briefly That explains why your rant contains awful infomation that you're trying to pass off as fact. I've fought in Null Sec for years and understand the ins and outs. I however never shacked up with a Null Sec based alliance until last year and found out the shocking truth. Your one liners are just as bad as theirs. But go on little worker bee. Keep buzzing up Mittens ass and grab that honey for him. After all you own "sov." So basically you joined one nullsec alliance that gave you a bad impression & now you're angry about it. Got it. It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's.
SaKoil Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 120	Posted - 2012.12.19 14:25:00 - [101] - Quote Tara Read wrote: Mallak Azaria wrote: Tara Read wrote: I lived in Null briefly That explains why your rant contains awful infomation that you're trying to pass off as fact. I've fought in Null Sec for years and understand the ins and outs. I however never shacked up with a Null Sec based alliance until last year and found out the shocking truth. Your one liners are just as bad as theirs. But go on little worker bee. Keep buzzing up Mittens ass and grab that honey for him. After all you own "sov." You seem pretty angry. Ranting like that gets you nowhere.
Lord Calus Fractured Core Fatal Ascension 72	Posted - 2012.12.19 14:55:00 - [102] - Quote Tara Read wrote: Ignorant words about how Nullsec works. It is painfully obvious from this that you have never been to 0.0. Your information comes solely from EN24 and the forums. Supers don't get dropped on people. Actually, supers get dropped OCCASIONALLY on carriers and dreads, and maybe kinda sorta possibly on other supers. The only function of a super carrier now is to shoot structures. POS guns, POCOs, IHUBs and stations. That is it. The only function of a titan now is to shoot the above, the POS itself, and to bridge duders. Don't try and profess knowledge you do not have, it makes you look silly. Qualifier: The outlying r-tards who rat, mine, and gatecamp in titans are not included in the above.
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1470	Posted - 2012.12.19 14:57:00 - [103] - Quote Lord Calus wrote: Tara Read wrote: Ignorant words about how Nullsec works. It is painfully obvious from this that you have never been to 0.0. Your information comes solely from EN24 and the forums. Supers don't get dropped on people. Actually, supers get dropped OCCASIONALLY on carriers and dreads, and maybe kinda sorta possibly on other supers. The only function of a super carrier now is to shoot structures. POS guns, POCOs, IHUBs and stations. That is it. The only function of a titan now is to shoot the above, the POS itself, and to bridge duders. Don't try and profess knowledge you do not have, it makes you look silly. Qualifier: The outlying r-tards who rat, mine, and gatecamp in titans are not included in the above. According to his kill history he spent a little over 3 months in nullsec, mostly in Syndicate with some time spent in Delve during the thunderdome period. 3 months is not 'years'. It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's.
Trendon Evenstar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 71	Posted - 2012.12.19 16:15:00 - [104] - Quote I was born here. Skipped tutorial, read goonwiki, pod jumped to 0.0 I dont know any other way
AstraPardus Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans 36	Posted - 2012.12.19 16:18:00 - [105] - Quote Trendon Evenstar wrote: I was born here. Skipped tutorial, read goonwiki, pod jumped to 0.0 I dont know any other way Similar tale for me, minus the goon part. Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
Xpaulusx Naari LLC 119	Posted - 2012.12.19 16:22:00 - [106] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: Actually the current state of null income for line members reflects the risk vs reward there. No buff needed. Agree, but null sec sov stations do need a slight buff, this is a legitimate grip and i hope CCP fixs this. Null sec is dull sec simply because of bluefest. Reset each other and null will be exciting again simple as that. New Player retention is important to our community.
Murk Paradox Dvice Shipyards No Value 72	Posted - 2012.12.19 16:41:00 - [107] - Quote So most of nullsec is NBSI and yet people get stagnant because that same 80% of null becomes undesirable. Interesting. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url] for details.
AstraPardus Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans 36	Posted - 2012.12.19 16:47:00 - [108] - Quote LOL56 wrote: ITS PRETTY SIMPLE, I LIKE CAP SHIPS AND DON'T LIKE GATE GUNS. I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE AN INCOME IN ADVANCE OF THOSE WITH CONCORD PROTECTION WHEN I HAVE ONLY SOCIAL PROTECTION THAT TAKES A GREAT DEAL OF EFFORT TO BUILD, AND IS LESS EFFECTIVE THAN CONCORD. ALSO BECAUSE I LIKE TARGETS, AND IF PVE WAS WORTHWHILE IN NULLSEC THERE WOULD BE WAY MORE TARGETS TO KILL, WHICH WOULD MEAN I COULD ROAM MORE OFTEN AND FOR SHORTER PERIODS. ALSO I APOLOGIZES FOR THE CAPS, BUT I'M USING REVIT 2013 (A STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING PROGRAM) AND IT IS 1249503446534 TIMES EASIER IF YOU LEAVE CAPS LOCK ON. Our structural engineers are getting too lazy to push a single button, proof. ^ Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
Ana Vyr Vyral Technologies 353	Posted - 2012.12.19 17:11:00 - [109] - Quote A few years back I joined an alliance corp and went out to live in nullsec. I hated it, to be honest. I felt like a slave, and fleet fights were not as exciting as I imagined they would be. Shrug, to each his own. It did appear as if the fleet commanders and leaders were having fun there.
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 2342	Posted - 2012.12.19 17:11:00 - [110] - Quote Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: Marlona Sky wrote: Shepard Wong Ogeko wrote: The idea is that sov holding alliances would rely on players in their space doing stuff that can be taxed in order to earn enough to be sov holding alliances. Alliances that can retain active members, and keep their space safe enough to due stuff will be prosperous. Those that don't use their space won't keep it. What does it take to hold sov in a system? Don't tell me guts and glory, tell everyone here what it technically takes to do it, game mechanic wise. Well... http://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2009/sov_flowchart.jpg And then you pay your sov bills. I'm sure you could have googled that info yourself though. I was also talking about cost. How much does it cost to have sov in a system with no station and no iHub. One with just an iHub. One with just a station. And finally one with both station and iHub. Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
Marlona Sky D00M. Northern Coalition. 2342	Posted - 2012.12.19 17:16:00 - [111] - Quote Ana Vyr wrote: A few years back I joined an alliance corp and went out to live in nullsec. I hated it, to be honest. I felt like a slave, and fleet fights were not as exciting as I imagined they would be. Shrug, to each his own. It did appear as if the fleet commanders and leaders were having fun there. You were not excited about... Everyone align to planet x,y,z. Everyone shoot bad guy #1 Everyone shoot bad guy #2 Everyone shoot bad guy #3 Warp Warp back Everyone shoot bad guy #4... That was not amazing for you? Out of curiosity, what were you hoping it would be like? Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner!
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1967	Posted - 2012.12.19 17:35:00 - [112] - Quote AstraPardus wrote: Trendon Evenstar wrote: I was born here. Skipped tutorial, read goonwiki, pod jumped to 0.0 I dont know any other way Similar tale for me, minus the goon part. Similar, plus the goon part. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Ana Vyr Vyral Technologies 354	Posted - 2012.12.19 17:38:00 - [113] - Quote Marlona Sky wrote: Ana Vyr wrote: A few years back I joined an alliance corp and went out to live in nullsec. I hated it, to be honest. I felt like a slave, and fleet fights were not as exciting as I imagined they would be. Shrug, to each his own. It did appear as if the fleet commanders and leaders were having fun there. You were not excited about... Everyone align to planet x,y,z. Everyone shoot bad guy #1 Everyone shoot bad guy #2 Everyone shoot bad guy #3 Warp Warp back Everyone shoot bad guy #4... That was not amazing for you? Out of curiosity, what were you hoping it would be like? Well, I suppose I was hoping to find that "create your own empire" thing there. Ultimately I was just a number in somebody else's game. That's fine if you want some kid telling you every move you can make on vent. Fleet fights were: let's spend 2 hours waiting around to have a ten minute fight that you accurately depicted above, minus the teenagers ranting on vent the entire time. It's probably a lot more fun if you are in charge, I would imagine, but I have to listen to enough drama from my own kids to put up with more of the same during my free time.
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1470	Posted - 2012.12.19 17:39:00 - [114] - Quote Ana Vyr wrote: A few years back I joined an alliance corp and went out to live in nullsec. I hated it, to be honest. I felt like a slave, and fleet fights were not as exciting as I imagined they would be. Shrug, to each his own. It did appear as if the fleet commanders and leaders were having fun there. Nullsec corps & alliances that make you feel like a slave are terrible anyway & they make the rest of us look bad. It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's.
AstraPardus Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans 37	Posted - 2012.12.19 17:44:00 - [115] - Quote Alavaria Fera wrote: AstraPardus wrote: Trendon Evenstar wrote: I was born here. Skipped tutorial, read goonwiki, pod jumped to 0.0 I dont know any other way Similar tale for me, minus the goon part. Similar, plus the goon part. Yay, nullsec! Nullsec = bestsec. Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1967	Posted - 2012.12.19 17:46:00 - [116] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: Ana Vyr wrote: A few years back I joined an alliance corp and went out to live in nullsec. I hated it, to be honest. I felt like a slave, and fleet fights were not as exciting as I imagined they would be. Shrug, to each his own. It did appear as if the fleet commanders and leaders were having fun there. Nullsec corps & alliances that make you feel like a slave are terrible anyway & they make the rest of us look bad. I thought we were the evill blobber slave empire with all the pets. Where did we go wrong? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1967	Posted - 2012.12.19 17:47:00 - [117] - Quote Ana Vyr wrote: Well, I suppose I was hoping to find that "create your own empire" thing there. Ultimately I was just a number in somebody else's game. Well I guess we could have an expansion where you make an empire of NPCs. Like an NPC corp, amirite insert random meme here Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
AstraPardus Lightspeed Enterprises Fidelas Constans 38	Posted - 2012.12.19 17:49:00 - [118] - Quote Mallak Azaria wrote: Ana Vyr wrote: A few years back I joined an alliance corp and went out to live in nullsec. I hated it, to be honest. I felt like a slave, and fleet fights were not as exciting as I imagined they would be. Shrug, to each his own. It did appear as if the fleet commanders and leaders were having fun there. Nullsec corps & alliances that make you feel like a slave are terrible anyway & they make the rest of us look bad. My corp makes me feel like an asset, I am very pleased. :3 Every time I post is Pardy time! :3
Natsett Amuinn GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 809	Posted - 2012.12.19 17:53:00 - [119] - Quote Because I enjoy the added risk and effort involved. Doing thigns in high sec feels pointless. Everytime someone buys something I build, I feel that I'm contributing to something more.
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1470	Posted - 2012.12.19 17:56:00 - [120] - Quote Natsett Amuinn wrote: Doing thigns in high sec feels pointless. Join Miniluv then try & repeat that to me in a month :smug: It's about time CCP stops catering to the lazy players with this sense of entitlement for fear of losing money. These aren't the people making the game better, these are the people wanting you to turn EVE in to a game that is like most other MMO's.

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