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Capt Hindgrinder	Posted - 2005.05.26 11:22:00 - [31] Eve has the potential to go 10 years. I agree with the guy who said "The only thing that could kill eve is a better game." - and that isn't likely to happen. I suggest buying 6 month subs and at least 2 alts to really enjoy it to it's fullest. C.H.
Admiral Pieg	Posted - 2005.05.26 12:25:00 - [32] Edited by: Admiral Pieg on 26/05/2005 12:33:40 Originally by: Kade Shaderow Edited by: Kade Shaderow on 26/05/2005 04:27:59 Originally by: Darodem I plan on my son taking charge of my character when he is old enough. He is not even two yet. Everquest is the oldest functioning MMORPG at six years, and its days are numbered. I think you're being a bit too optimistic. Like someone else said before me, Ultima Online is still up and running after 8 years. ______________________ Pod from above.
Van Cleef	Posted - 2005.05.26 12:44:00 - [33] The only thing that would kill EVE early would be CCP. If they start focusing on a new game and neglect this one, people will get tired and leave. As long as CCP keeps an interest and EVE continues to Evolve, then it will have a long life span. ------------------------------------------------ Serve the State Join Channel CAINCOM
Seleene	Posted - 2005.05.26 13:33:00 - [34] Originally by: The Enslaver I have 5 accounts on 6 month subscription Seleene - neevaaar! I have four, about to take over a fifth (again). As the six-month subs on each one run out, I'll be switching to a year. Are there other computer games to play? - T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today!
Chooran	Posted - 2005.05.26 13:53:00 - [35] People will continue to play for a few reasons: 1. Promises from CCP regarding new features and/or features that were supposed to be implemented in 'a month or two' yet are still absent half a year later. 2. NEW SHIPS! CCP throws the player-base a bone with some new skins/slot arrangement. Ship bonuses to be balanced for the next half a year. 3. They still have to do a Minmatar event.
Lysender	Posted - 2005.05.26 14:26:00 - [36] Eve-online will be here for a while. With tons of story-line and content it will always draw a crowd.
Verone	Posted - 2005.05.26 14:36:00 - [37] Edited by: Verone on 26/05/2005 14:40:47 Originally by: Seleene To give you an idea of my level of devotion to EVE - The Enslaver will quit before me. To give you an idea of my level of devotion to EVE - Seleene, and The Enslaver will quit before me. COME AND SOCIALISE WITH US NASTY SNIGG BASTARDS AT : WWW.SNIGG.CJB.NET
The Enslaver	Posted - 2005.05.26 14:40:00 - [38] To give you an idea of my level of devotion to EVE - Seleene will quit before me. -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
Severe McCald	Posted - 2005.05.26 16:30:00 - [39] David Braben is still out there and, every so often, threatens to release an updated Elite. If he did, Eve would be dead in a month. Still, Ive been waiting a long, long time for that game and Eve is the next best thing. So I expect to be here for another year. Sev And Moses was content to dwell with the man:and he gave Moses Zipporah his daughter. And she bare him a son, and he called his name Gershom:for he said, I have been a stranger in a strange land.
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2005.05.26 16:44:00 - [40] Even if they made another mmo that was perfectly balanced and had a lot of content, I'd still probably play eve because I really hate the fantasy genre.. it all seems like a ripoff of Tolkien to me. Every damn game has orcs, magic, elves.. screw that, I'll keep my city-sized hunk of crystalline carbide armor and volkswagon-hurling death any day. Then theres also the fact that in EVE you can actually lose a lot by pvping.. and the pvp is way less castrated than in other games. I mean, if I wanted to, I could go get a raven and suicide on someone in Yulai. Not practical, but possible. Other games would insta-ban you right there assuming pvp wasn't simply turned off for the "safe" zones. Then there is the skill leveling, a huuuge improvement over level grinding in other games. For someone who plays one hour a day or 8 hours a day, its irrelevant. The one who plays more simply gets more time to make isk, and even that is moot as you need brains not playtime to make isk. All on one server, one map, one universe. I don't want to sound too much of a fanboy, even though I am, but I don't see how any other mmo on the market could have more longlevity than EVE. When the next major content patch comes, I'll consider as Soren said, "Eve just coming out of beta".. And who knows, by the time Kali hits we'll have a really fun game, then its down into the abyss of bugs all over again \o/ _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
Wrangler	Posted - 2005.05.26 16:51:00 - [41] To give you an idea of my level of devotion to EVE - I will ban Seleene, The Enslaver and Verone before I quit.. Originally by: Severe McCald David Braben is still out there and, every so often, threatens to release an updated Elite. If he did, Eve would be dead in a month. I doubt it, Elite 4 does look like it might be a online game, however it doesn't look like it's gonna be a MMOG. I agree that it might take a few players from EVE, maybe even enough to be noticable, but definately not enough to take down EVE. [Read the Rules!] - [Email the Moderators]
Blacklight	Posted - 2005.05.26 17:23:00 - [42] Devoted fanboi at your service. Even if due to RL commitments I ever end up just playing a few hours a week I'll still play. Eve is the game that matches the concepts I have been dreaming of and developing in my own head since I was a kid. Be it sat on my bedroom floor playing lego space empires with my brother about 27 or 28 years ago, to playing my first Atari computer games, to paper and pencil roleplay games to playing Elite, to playing the MMOG Mankind for 2+ years and finally here to Eve. It's going to take a game that makes another huge step forward in technology, gameplay and immersiveness to knock Eve off number one spot for me. I'm like Digi with regard to the fantasy genre, in the main you can keep it, I want spaceships, lasers and big explosions! So there'll ne no flower picking fairy nonsense threatening my Eve time I reckon I'll be here at least another 5 years. Eve Blacklight Style
Acwron	Posted - 2005.05.26 17:42:00 - [43] Originally by: Blacklight [...] Great Post. Sums up what I thought when I first heared of EVE.
Ricdic	Posted - 2005.05.26 17:53:00 - [44] OMG, this is like the only post in all the forums without whines/rants/smacktalk. And of course, i forgot to mention there is also no trolls. When i heard of the missile "overhaul" and tested it, i was quite disgusted. Then i complained for a week, till sneak peaks III was released. Now i think once again CCP have covered up a nerf with a whole lot of pretty new stuff. But it just goes to show how hard these guys are working to make us happy. I can sacrifice some missile damage, because i have a lot more to look forward to and play with, etc. This is why CCP will live long in my opinion. New content on a regular basis. Sure they can sometimes make a mess, but we all make mistakes. i will now shut up.
Burga Galti	Posted - 2005.05.26 18:33:00 - [45] Originally by: "Seleene" To give you an idea of my level of devotion to EVE - The Enslaver will quit before me. Originally by: "The Enslaver" To give you an idea of my level of devotion to EVE - Seleene will quit before me. EVE will live forever \o/ Tales from the EVE Cluster
Zen Later	Posted - 2005.05.26 18:48:00 - [46] Dunno really how long Eve will be around. From a few posts in this thread, you can see the opinions of the die hards. Myself, I find this game has gotten to the same-old-same-old point. The long promised Jovians, Titans, et al that many folks that have been around since the early days are coming within the next few months...if dev blogs and dev chats are to be believed. That leaves me asking...well what else is there? That's really been it for the backstory of this game and the main idea well will be officially dry. I guess I'm out of step with a few other posters but the recent blogged about changes coming stand to make Eve just like several other MMO's, not unique from them. I also see a couple other titles...one in particular coming this fall...that will start to draw the crowds away little by little. I'd say that 2007 will be the year that this game dwindles down to castor days average population if you've been following MMO goings on.
Cadman Weyland	Posted - 2005.05.26 18:56:00 - [47] Edited by: Cadman Weyland on 26/05/2005 18:56:50 I`ll play Eve as long as its going. Cheaper than going to pub getting wasted and a great way to keep up with real life mates who have moved away. We got titans, dreads, jove, kali, comets (soon), player stations..so much future potential. My biggest fear is a drying up of new blood as new players look at uber skilled older players and think "whats the point". But thats not something easily, if ever rectified. Long live Eve Director of Empire Ops and Chief Carebear
Shasta McKenzie	Posted - 2005.05.26 22:16:00 - [48] The only way that Eve will suffer is if there is a massive management turnover at CCP. I.E. they sell out the game to Sony or some such crap. Otherwise, they have showed me that they are able to keep bringing fresh ideas to the game - as long as they are there, and that desire still burns, I will be here typing and playing Eve.
The Enslaver	Posted - 2005.05.26 22:23:00 - [49] CCP wouldn't do that. The game means more to them than money. And its good to be able to say that about game developers tbh. -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
The Enslaver	Posted - 2005.05.26 22:24:00 - [50] Originally by: Wrangler To give you an idea of my level of devotion to EVE - I will ban Seleene, The Enslaver and Verone before I quit.. NEEVAAR! You can't ban me! I'm too young to be banned -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
Bubba Fett	Posted - 2005.05.26 22:41:00 - [51] Don't worry about the game folding in 6 months. They're working on a new patch and it will take them at least that long to deploy it.
Tredegar	Posted - 2005.05.27 01:33:00 - [52] I started soon after game was launched. I have not looked back. I have tried other games but none I enjoyed as much as this. I've seen the amount of people playing up from 3-4000 per day to over 10000 playing every day. That has to say something about a product that has been around for a couple of years. "I may be a craven little coward, but I'm a greedy craven little coward." Daffy Duck
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2005.05.27 01:40:00 - [53] Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 27/05/2005 01:57:10 Originally by: Shasta McKenzie The only way that Eve will suffer is if there is a massive management turnover at CCP. I.E. they sell out the game to Sony or some such crap. Otherwise, they have showed me that they are able to keep bringing fresh ideas to the game - as long as they are there, and that desire still burns, I will be here typing and playing Eve. Its a privately owned company, meaning it can't be taken over, and selling the company would leave a lot of people unemployed. soo.. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2005.05.27 01:55:00 - [54] Edited by: DigitalCommunist on 27/05/2005 01:56:46 Originally by: Zen Later Dunno really how long Eve will be around. From a few posts in this thread, you can see the opinions of the die hards. Myself, I find this game has gotten to the same-old-same-old point. The long promised Jovians, Titans, et al that many folks that have been around since the early days are coming within the next few months...if dev blogs and dev chats are to be believed. That leaves me asking...well what else is there? That's really been it for the backstory of this game and the main idea well will be officially dry. I guess I'm out of step with a few other posters but the recent blogged about changes coming stand to make Eve just like several other MMO's, not unique from them. I also see a couple other titles...one in particular coming this fall...that will start to draw the crowds away little by little. I'd say that 2007 will be the year that this game dwindles down to castor days average population if you've been following MMO goings on. I've been around a long time, and the ultimate goal or backstory of eve isn't titans or jovians.. its the way those things will be used. Mainly player empire stuff, most beta people would know what i'm talking about. Obviously this isn't something you can make out of the box.. but think about it for a second. Alpha and beta went on largely as corporation domain, there were few if any alliances, mostly word of mouth stuff. EVE went on just fine. Then in retail came the mega-alliance stuff. A bunch of corporations working together is easier to manage than one giant megacorp.. as you have many more directors, ceos and different playstyles available to tend to such a massive group of players. Thats been going on for two years now. What do most alliances have? A mix of random corps, all with similar attributes, and with very little claim to anything concrete in eve. Now look at player empires. Vast areas of fully protected space, each member corp has a specific function. Theres the navy corporations, the mining corporation like posku or astral. The banks like modern finances or bank of luminaire.. all with a specific purpose, under one empire - but interacting with and competing with other empires. Its like one giant megacorp, if you want to look at it like that. A megacorp usually has different divisions with specific purposes. We lasted this long on very basic stuff like loose word of mouth and semi-official alliances. None of it making any permanently visible impact to EVE's geography. You can exist one day, and cease to exist the next in anything but people's memories. How long do you suppose EVE can last if the infrastructure is there to let players be the next Amarr Empire or Gallente Federation? Thats the 'ultimate goal' of EVE that was given to us in alpha/beta, and should it ever be delivered it would automatically prolong the life of this game by half a decade or more. The only thing left to do then would be EVE: The Third Genesis, where it would be a planetary expansion to the current universe. Whereupon thousands of people around the world would become divorced, malnourished, and addicted beyond intervention. Woot, can't wait. _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
DigitalCommunist	Posted - 2005.05.27 01:57:00 - [55] Yeah I know, typo. Edited :P _____________________________________ Perpetually driven, your end is our beginning. "Can I be a consultant for EVE II?" - WhiteDwarf
MutationZ	Posted - 2005.05.27 01:57:00 - [56] Originally by: DigitalCommunist Originally by: Shasta McKenzie The only way that Eve will suffer is if there is a massive management turnover at CCP. I.E. they sell out the game to Sony or some such crap. Otherwise, they have showed me that they are able to keep bringing fresh ideas to the game - as long as they are there, and that desire still burns, I will be here typing and playing Eve. Its a publically owned company, meaning it can't be taken over, and selling the company would leave a lot of people unemployed. soo.. Publically owned companies can be taken over... But apart from Iceland getting geysered to death tomorrow I think EVE will be around for a while.
Zen Later	Posted - 2005.05.27 19:48:00 - [57] Edited by: Zen Later on 27/05/2005 19:48:07 Whole heartedly agree Digi...if actual and true player controlled space was a development aim Eve would become uber interesting. Sadly, it's not and hasn't been for quite a long time now nor does it look to be in the near future. By the time it is, we will be looking at the late 2006 early 2007 range when several other space based and/or vastly popular MMO/game to MMO titles will be emerging...nevermind sequels to already huge MMO hits. Don't get me wrong, this is an awesome game with a ridiculous amount of potential but development of Eve has always and continues to be huge stumbling block IMHO.
kieron	Posted - 2005.05.27 21:17:00 - [58] EVE will be around for a very long time. Our subscription rate has been on an upward trend since release, with a few bobbles due to billing issues and the release of WoW. Tech Level 2 needs to be completely released, then the work on TLs3-5 begins. COSMOS and the New World Order are coming in the next few months, Kali is slated for expansion within the next year and Jovian space needs to be opened up, so the content to drive the game exists. As long as player interest in EVE continues, the game will thrive and flourish. I would expect EVE to live at least seven years or longer. Danisis, have no worries, EVE won't disappear for a very long time. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online
Rod Blaine	Posted - 2005.05.27 21:31:00 - [59] Edited by: Rod Blaine on 27/05/2005 21:38:16 Originally by: Zen Later Edited by: Zen Later on 27/05/2005 19:48:07 Whole heartedly agree Digi...if actual and true player controlled space was a development aim Eve would become uber interesting. Sadly, it's not and hasn't been for quite a long time now nor does it look to be in the near future. Oh, but it is, and does. By the end of the year you'll see alliances wich have the claiming of parts of space (constellations) and making them their sovereignty as major goals. This because of the bonuses hinted at as part of cosmos and the nwo patch. That's step one. It'll continue with tools, more tools and still more tools to expand the functionalities of that space and the structures in it. Step two will be a rework of the standing system to be a more versatile tool for player corporations and aliances, as well as allowing them to interect more meaningfully with NPC factions. The first of these two is already quite strongly referenced to in recetn devblogs and chats, and the latter is one that follows logically seeing their goal for player created content and background, and the possibilities the standing system offers. My bet is on both becoming reality within not too long of a timespan. Together they'll bring us quite close to making possible what digi describes. _______________________________________________ Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know. Rod's Ramblingz on Eve-Online Solutions to your issues.
Zhuge Liang	Posted - 2005.05.27 21:46:00 - [60] Originally by: Wrangler To give you an idea of my level of devotion to EVE - I will ban Seleene, The Enslaver and Verone before I quit.. lol, I always knew you had a soft spot for Mr Calvert... ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming)

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