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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2012.12.20 15:26:00 -
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Most of the people advocating for hardware tessellation don't really know what they're talking about.
Hardware tessellation is just the ability of a graphics card to add new detail to an object when needed by subdividing it. Instead of defining all your models as faces of polygons you define a function for the larger object and the graphics card approximates it in real time using polygons.
It won't make anything pretty unless you really know what you're doing. It's just a new way of doing LOD calculations.
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2012.12.20 16:05:00 -
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Metal Icarus wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Most of the people advocating for hardware tessellation don't really know what they're talking about.
Hardware tessellation is just the ability of a graphics card to add new detail to an object when needed by subdividing it. Instead of defining all your models as faces of polygons you define a function for the larger object and the graphics card approximates it in real time using polygons.
It won't make anything pretty unless you really know what you're doing. It's just a new way of doing LOD calculations. So when you warp into a deadspace complex with tons of asteroids, buildings and clouds then you will see the benefit of tesselation. By that I mean, it will have much faster FPS. You're right about the "not much prettier" part, but I hate the lag that happens when I warp into a "busy" place... tesselation should actualy be a VERY important goal no matter what the player base is playing the game with. Roll it out when you guys are ready but please dont act like those with DX11 want to wait for those XP users to die off. srs, I want tesselation.
Tessellation for performance is interesting, but it could also be done in software. Just reducing the number of particles in those clouds would make all the difference in the world though
I don't doubt tesselation has legit uses, but most people who want it don't know any of them and just want it to "be prettier".
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2012.12.20 16:18:00 -
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J3ssica Alba wrote:I invested in a new pc and graphics card(s) because of some games that I wanted to play. Now I have an uber water cooled machine that can run almost infinite amounts of EVE clients with CQ enabled. That EVE's graphics are kept back from their full potential by a bunch of cheap ass players that refuse to upgrade their ZX Spectrums is plain stupid
So you bought tons of enthusiast hardware and are mad that it is overkill?
This is why I only upgrade gaming machine once every 2-4 years. No need to do it sooner.
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2012.12.20 18:26:00 -
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Callic Veratar wrote:Futchmacht wrote:Dropdown menu in graphics card settings
Option #1 DX 9/10
Option #2 DX 11
There are games that support both modes already.. i know it needs more HDD space if you switch from default DX9/10 the DX11 as well as the right video card but its not rocket appliances just more work :)
I wish I lived in your world where software development is so simple. Also more rocket appliances please.
It is that simple, haven't you see Stargate Atlantis or Independence Day? Everything is plug and play these days
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2012.12.20 18:30:00 -
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Callic Veratar wrote:masternerdguy wrote:It is that simple, haven't you see Stargate Atlantis or Independence Day? Everything is plug and play these days They were really lucky in ID4 that the alien space ship fleet was running MacOS.
Even luckier they also happened to come up with the same CPU architectures and network stack as the 1990s humans. TCP/IP must be pretty damn awesome if aliens use it.
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2012.12.20 18:36:00 -
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Buzzy Warstl wrote:
A brand new $50 video card can run DX11 quite well.
Oh and I'm sure it does hardware tessellation really awesome too
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2012.12.20 18:45:00 -
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Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:CCP Mankiller wrote:Yes, mostly with their alts. Can't blame them...
I can. BTW...I believe they stated that it would be a years worth of man hours. A man hour is one man working for one hour. I doubt it would take a FULL year if all the devs were working on it. I would expect that they could roll it out in one expansion if they wanted to. Then again...we got people using stone age PC's to play...so...yeah.
~man hours~
You make the wrong assumption that all devs are skilled in all areas. This is wrong. You also assume that simply tossing more devs on a project makes it go faster, and this is really wrong.
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2012.12.20 19:37:00 -
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Buzzy Warstl wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Buzzy Warstl wrote:
A brand new $50 video card can run DX11 quite well.
Oh and I'm sure it does hardware tessellation really awesome too You just stopped reading right there, didn't you? Sometimes I wonder if it's worth typing more than 3 words on these forums.
I read it all, and its dumb.
HW tessellation is one of the higher end features of this thing. A low end card will NOT be able to take proper advantage of the technology. Besides, to take advantage of tessellation requires redoing all the game assets so they can be tessellated, that is unless you want to run DX11 for the sake of saying you use DX11.
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