I'd be impressed if your brutix kills were titans, but hulks? meh

I would be impressed if you had any kills to your name.

Its about someone bragging about killing something not able to fight back.

Oooooh the kill police are out. This is not about me numbnuts. Its about someone bragging about killing something not able to fight back.

Obviously that sort of thing impresses you. Just not me.

you just need to engage your drones on him in order to get a killmail with killed Brutix. If you're not a botter, use your drones. The only one problem is that bots can't engage drones - this means, that all these 100+ kills were bot kills.

I find this hard to believe. Especially when there are tears involved.

Many players mining in hi sec are still comparetively new. Are still learning. I know I am. I'll always have combat drones up 100% of the time. There are many that use mining drones while belt is rat free. Try attacking with them.

you just need to engage your drones on him in order to get a killmail with killed Brutix. If you're not a botter, use your drones. The only one problem is that bots can't engage drones - this means, that all these 100+ kills were bot kills.

also what's this .5 crap are you low-skilled or something, get some implants and start going up to .7 at least

regulated neutron phase cannon I

death to all miners miners are the lowest form of pond scum in eve

Apparently this guy hasn't studied how EVE works. Everything he uses/flys was provided by a miner. No miners, no ships, no ammo, no POS, no corps.....LOL

Apparently this guy hasn't studied how EVE works. Everything he uses/flys was provided by a miner. No miners, no ships, no ammo, no POS, no corps.....LOL

So, Let's give him his wish. Let's all STOP mining and just gank any goonswarm miner we can find anywhere and see how he likes sitting in an NPC station while the Galaxy goes dark when the fuel runs out.

Apparently this guy hasn't read a QEN since 2007.

Because you are wrong, on all counts.

Everything he uses/flys was provided by a miner.

Wrong. Datacores, decryptors, planetary goods, and moon goo are all necessary for T2 production, and don't come from miners. And if you really want to nitpick, there's always reprocessed loot.

it might not be as efficient as mining, but we sure as hell could live without you.

It is actually more efficient.

heck, ill head that up myself if it happens . But yea, iskies never hurt. I dont do it for isk- eve just needs a little justice

So, Let's give him his wish. Let's all STOP mining and just gank any goonswarm miner we can find anywhere and see how he likes sitting in an NPC station while the Galaxy goes dark when the fuel runs out.

I encourage you to gank any and all Goonswarm miners you come across. In fact, should you see any Goonswarm member mining, send myself, Weaselior, or Lyris Nairn a convo in game, and we'll shoot the idiot ourselves.

So,

We have a thread in General Discussion justifying the economic incentives/motivations/philosophies of the current hulk gank trend.


And here we finally get how everyone really feels.


Miners are the Jews of eve, I swear.



And you guys really need hobbies. Isn't there a model train store around....maybe a dog park....swimming pools....discos.....

cmon guys.

Miners are the Jews of eve, I swear.

Unfortunetly I can't buy your arguement. I have been in several ice belts lately where I am the ONLY ice miner. Now I don't mine for a living. I just get in, get enough to run the POS and then go back to stuff I enjoy more. And I'm not in the bot culture so I don't know why anyone would run bots now that they can't sell ISK for cash, but even botters run on ROI (return on investment) so if no one is mining ice in Gallente space it stands to reason that in a month or so POS are going to go dark.

And the real question was not: Will people quit mining. The question is: Can EVE survive without miners.

Many GoonSwarm seem to think it can. I'm still waiting for FACTS on the subject.

After looking through your killboard I have a question.

After 20+ ganks in Otela people haven't learned and left the system? It isn't common knowledge that there is ganking nearly every day?

*Story time*

I find a hulk im about to gank and some random iterion III is bumping it.
Local: Nick Aran > eww i kissed a hulk....

_Then i warp in_ hulk dies
OH, i didnt forget the itty- itty then dies

Local: Nick Aran > wtf's wrong with u?

Ah! I got it now. Goonswarm are all Republican and TeaParty Americans. They ignore any data they don't like. Come up with rationailes for anti-social behavior and have the wildest unproven theories to justify their actions.

OK guys have fun.

I have non-goon posts?

Ah! I got it now. Goonswarm are all Republican and TeaParty Americans. They ignore any data they don't like. Come up with rationailes for anti-social behavior and have the wildest unproven theories to justify their actions.

OK guys have fun.

aw lyris blocked me. im butt hurt

I'm not home right now but I will look into why you can't contact me when I get home. Unless you're someone who spams in Jita or something I can't imagine why you'd be blocked, because I generally don't block anyone.

yea, i wanted to touch base with you. but yea- im blocked. and i dont spam jita

You should be unblocked now. I'll sort out the money situation in the morning. I'll make sure A Thing Happens.

cool. sent ya a mail. we should chat sometime. we have mutual interests.

Cool. Join the +rep circlejerk.

you just need to engage your drones on him in order to get a killmail with killed Brutix. If you're not a botter, use your drones. The only one problem is that bots can't engage drones - this means, that all these 100+ kills were bot kills.

Lyris - no mouth other than yours looks so primed ready to open and receive,

Or morons using mining drones.

Of course, as soon as you engage your drones CONCORD kills you so you still don't get the kill and YOU die anyway. Therefore there is no way to tell if it's a bot kill since the Hulk, Mac can't aim the drones on the Brutix.

It takes like 3 seconds... it takes 2 more seconds ....

Thanks for the sage advice, as if engaging drones makes a difference when Hulk popping is a science now.

Oooooh the kill police are out. This is not about me numbnuts. Its about someone bragging about killing something not able to fight back.

Obviously that sort of thing impresses you. Just not me.

By looking at Otard's api-verified killboard (battleclinic), it seems that he has more kills than losses when it comes to suicide ganking hulks.

How do he avoid concord?

warp around for 1 min untill combat session timer is done, then dock, or
store his brutix back in orca before concord arrives?

Losses to NPCs are generally not recorded. The only time you generally see losses to NPCs on a killboard are when other players dogpile on the kill, or if someone is feeling particularly ashamed and wants to degrade himself in public.

My Carebear killing KB

+ Video \o/

CCP does a poor job of weeding out botters. So, im getting back into solo hulk poping. I mostly hang around caldari space as that is where most bots seem to congregate. If you know of a .5 system that you are positive that botters do their mining in- POST BELOW .

I cant promise that ill visit every system that you post, but i sure will try. If there is only 1 or 2 bots- dont bother wasting my time. I know of a few systems off hand with over a dozen bots easily. Last time i did this, i poped over 110 exhumers in under 2 weeks. I litterly cleared out the major botting systems in caldari space.

If you are interested in my little escapade- hit me up with an eve mail. My time online is kinda random- which is y i work alone. But i wouldnt mind having a few extra thorax friends around!

EDIT: I been getting a ton of mail of ppl wanting to tag along. So ill just say what i tell everyone in here.
#1. This IS NOT for making isk. I have isk to burn- you will lose ~3m isk a gank in a t1 cruiser.
#2. I keep all loot. As i need it to put a dent in the Brutix costs. [yes i use a Brutix, i want to **** whatever i touch]
#3. Once you hit past -5.0 sec status, you will need to depend on me to eject your cruiser from my orca.
*This means you are screwed when im not online.

If you still want to hang out- send me a mail.

Nice. High-sec pirates not even being CAUGHT by concord. Something the GMs say is considered an exploit.

cool. sent ya a mail. we should chat sometime. we have mutual interests.

Just wondering... if you're quick enough. before concord pwn your Ass... couldn't you store the ship back inside the orca?

death to all miners miners are the lowest form of pond scum in eve

*Story time*

I find a hulk im about to gank and some random iterion III is bumping it.
Local: Nick Aran > eww i kissed a hulk....

_Then i warp in_ hulk dies
OH, i didnt forget the itty- itty then dies

Local: Nick Aran > wtf's wrong with u?

Your original post said that you were after botters, and the itty pilot obviously did not fall into that category.

So basically if you just gank anyone, whats the point of the original post ?

Ah! I got it now. Goonswarm are all Republican and TeaParty Americans. They ignore any data they don't like. Come up with rationailes for anti-social behavior and have the wildest unproven theories to justify their actions.

OK guys have fun.

Come on people. You say I'm wrong and EVE does NOT need miners or their products. I'm willing to be convinced. Someone please Link me the information and I'll be the first to admit I'm incorrect. Until then, I maintain Miners are necessary to the Game. If you can run POS without mining products like Liquid Ozone, Heavy Water, etc then show me how? If not, show me where you get the stuff without miners.
It's quite true that the majority of people refuse to admit Data unless it agrees with their already formed opinions but I'm not one of those. I was a trained Data Analyst by trade so just give me some FACTS please.

Actually, as a part time miner I HATE bots. The only problem is.... I haven't found a reliable way to ID a bot. I don't run with that crowd so I've never learned. Anyone who wants to give me the information how to POSITIVELY ID a bot would be very welcome.

NOTE: My personal experience of mining in Hulks it that gankers could care less about bots they just love beating up stuff that doesn't fight back...like all the bullies in grade school.

To my knowledge, it is NOT an exploit to temporarily elude CONCORD so long as you eventually die to them as a result of your actions

I recently flubbed a thrasher gank on a pod while I had gcc, and madly warped to every stargate in the system trying to find a pod before CONCORD caught me. Managed to check four different gates and finally got one - it's definitely possible but only in a small ship since you've got six seconds to land and fire, or land, look, and warp out.

Question to some of the experienced -10 sec suicide gankers here, is it possible to use a catalyst or thorax for -10 suiciding or can they not survive long enough to warp to an alt from a station on top of a target?

Question to some of the experienced -10 sec suicide gankers here, is it possible to use a catalyst or thorax for -10 suiciding or can they not survive long enough to warp to an alt from a station on top of a target?

Apparently they are small enough to sig-tank the police, so your catalyst/thrasher can land, orbit at 500, kill pod/shuttle/retriever/covetor and then get killed by concord.

I have been using a thorax nearly exclusively since the patch, it can easily survive the police long enough to finish a gank.