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Pepizaur
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Posted - 2014.04.30 17:18:00 -
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I am shocked and appalled at this entire situation.
Who the **** would take a contract from gevlon in the first place?
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Posted - 2014.05.02 11:03:00 -
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Eve-O Forums: Classy as ****.
You're all ******* ********, I'm ******** for posting and you're all dumber for having read this thread and my post.
NAH FUCKIT, ENGAGE THE HYPERBOLE DRIVES, READY THE BASELESS ACCUSATIONOMETER, FIRE AUTISM CANNONS ACROSS THE ENTIRE SPECTRUM! GO GO GO GO! |
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Posted - 2014.05.06 04:34:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Alekseyev Karrde wrote:Our contract required us to fight CFC and the people shooting them at the same time. Goblin's contract was a per kill reward for each CFC ganking ship and pod we could nab. As you say, clients expect us to do the best we can. We DID kill Goons better with taking the time to shoot the handful of Lemmings that wandered into JIta after their alliance stood down because fighting GSF in tidi was "too hard." We did better vs Goons this year than last year. Our best just happened to be awesome :) I didn't ask you to insult Lemmings for their participation in Jita. I asked if you felt that you could do either job individually better rather than both contracts together. Can you answer that question? Alekseyev Karrde wrote:I appreciate your trolling Seraph but I think you can stop trying to float the "Gevlon hired Noir. to jam Goons after they suicide ganked" and "Noir. hired by Goons to protect them" canards. I know you're still worked up about Noir. Academy kicking you out and mad at me for having to remove you from Merc Contracts channel for various shady behaviors. I know you're a perennial embarrassment to the mercenary community, but you're not illiterate (and neither are most people as it turns out, considering the support and buisiness we've been getting since this started). *tinfoil*  Now we were having a nice discussion about a topic. Nobody cares about what personal laundry you wish to air out. PM me if you really need to tell me how you really feel. Spare these people.
"Disingenuous" is the word that comes to mind over the past few pages of this thread. You are included in this. From being an enormous shitler to attempting to poach members it has been proven that you and Noir. do not get along. Riding into a thread and making a coy attempt at being the voice of reason (WHO WOULD LIKE TO RENT SOME LOWSEC SPACE?! ANYONE?!) is several levels of disingenuous beyond what can normally be allowed.
As for the entire episode, from what I can tell Alek took on a bounty contract and Gevlon felt that because he was a return customer Alek owed him some extra level of service when in fact all it gains you is not having to pay up front. If anyone reading this seriously thinks Alek convo'd his original client and said anything near "hey that gevlon ****** wants to hire us" then you're naive, not stupid per se, but merely unfamiliar with how such negotiations go down. You have to skirt the line between giving enough information on the conflict of interest to inform one side while simultaneously not giving away any exact details of who the conflict of interest is coming from. Something along the lines of "I have what seems to me to be a conflicting potential client that would involve me killing your suspect suicide gankers". If the original client at that point determines he is okay with that and as far as Alek knows all he is doing is collecting extra bounties on something he was probably going to do anyway then it is understandable why he may not have informed Gevlon of his original contract. Collecting a bounty is not some active offensive against Goonswarm and "burn Jita III" as a whole. From here it is easy to see why Alek felt that he did not need to inform Gevlon of his upcoming contract.
Where Alek erred was in ignoring Gevlon's gigantic ******* mouth and penchant for gross overreactions as well as not thinking through where the blowback afterwards might lead. As we can see from previous responses any time you have to drag out the lawyering people's immediate reaction (because most people rely on gut reactions from their first 5 seconds of seeing something, REASONED REVIEW BE DAMNED) is to side with the person who has the simpler narrative. Gevlon's narrative is simple: Gonns bad, these guys helped goons when they were supposed to be helping me. This was a mis-step but not nearly as big a mistake as one might think it is.
How many of us honestly think that the ever abundant fountain-o-sperge that is Gevlon wouldn't be in this thread immediately had Alek done the arguably smarter move and turned down his contract? How many of you think he wouldn't lock himself inside his Fortress of Tinfoilery and come to the same conclusion that he always does that anyone against him is a goon Pet. He would then proceed to post his usual dose of hyperbolic nonsense on his blog and then proceed to still probably place that bounty on the Titan. The only thing that would be different is that the simpler among us wouldn't have be drawn like moths to flame that NMG. BAD. |
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Posted - 2014.05.06 06:51:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Pepizaur wrote:Wall of sperg TLDR? HURFDY BLURFDY BLERFDY BLERF
He already did dumbass.
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Posted - 2014.05.06 07:52:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Woah, a touch upset. So many personal feelings don't have place in such a discussion be it Goblin calling Alek a goon pet (did he?) or other childish name calling. IMHO one cannot do 2 jobs as well as they can do 1. If i'm respectfully asking a question I don't see why people need to get personal. 
You have lost all expectation of respect or civility in your dealings with Noir. a long time ago. Your question is nonsensical considering he took the contract in the first place. The question was answered way before you even asked it. If you're asking for him to give you a wrap up of the contract then I'd imagine tuning into DoW will take care of that. I know you're a syndicated journalist for the award winning website EN24 but simply asking a question does not entitle you to an answer. |
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Posted - 2014.05.06 08:46:00 -
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Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Pepizaur wrote:Seraph IX Basarab wrote:Woah, a touch upset. So many personal feelings don't have place in such a discussion be it Goblin calling Alek a goon pet (did he?) or other childish name calling. IMHO one cannot do 2 jobs as well as they can do 1. If i'm respectfully asking a question I don't see why people need to get personal. You have lost all expectation of respect or civility in your dealings with Noir. a long time ago. Your question is nonsensical considering he took the contract in the first place. The question was answered way before you even asked it. If you're asking for him to give you a wrap up of the contract then I'd imagine tuning into DoW will take care of that. I know you're a syndicated journalist for the award winning website EN24 but simply asking a question does not entitle you to an answer. I really don't think you have the slightest clue about anything concerning me and Noir, nor am I a "journalist." And continual comments regarding me personally further shows that you do not know very much. Anyway... My point was that if someone cares, I mean truly cares about providing a quality service, they will focus on said task 100 percent. I've been in situations both long ago and very recently where I simply told a client that I wouldn't take their money for a specific request they had because it would not benefit them. Like GL said, they should of just focused on one contract or the other. It's more about the principle of the matter than any personal feelings some individuals here may have for one another.
It's like you're trying to be a hypocrite, but alas I've always said just because someone is a hypocrite doesn't mean their point is automatically invalid. "Truly cares" are you selling handcrafted organic non-gmo carbon nuetral coffee and vegan pastries baked in your solar oven or are you talking about the marketplace you actually exist in? If you have chosen to base your contract models on 100% attention then bravo, you should advertise in such in your own thread. But your history has proven time and time again that you are a selfish dumbass and the more you respond the more I'm convinced you didn't learn your lesson when you were attempting to poach NA. students into your little misadventure of a corp and are simply attempting to advertise your services here.
I nearly lost it when you tried to talk about the principle of anything having to do with Gevlon. The man doesn't know what he's typing most of the time anyway so trying to derive any sort of principle from anything having to do with him is a terrible waste of time.
"I'm not a journalist" ........... I know, I ******* know.
TLDR; Advertise in your own thread Seraph |
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Posted - 2014.05.06 08:47:00 -
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Joseph Soprano wrote:Aiko Zan wrote:
I read made up stuff on the internet and believed it because I'm stupid.
What a funny thing to say but its on the internet so it must be true. Are you really that stupid? Alekseyev Karrde wrote:
Is there any proof that's actually Goblin's twitter? looks like a fake account to me.
If I were CCP I'd probably being looking for a player/group of players who were actually in Iceland at fanfest 2014 and who had a grudge against Gevlon. Don't you agree Alek?
WOW LOL HERE IT COMES, GRATS DUDE YOU'VE CONTINUED TO ADVANCE THE PROSPECTS FOR ****** OF THE YEAR QUITE NICELY.
Yeah dude, you're just freaking dumb. |
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