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Feffri
Dark Circle Enforcement Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2012.12.21 13:34:00 -
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I agree with op that fw is pretty crappy about now but I disagree in that there is anything ccp can do. If op believes that there is something ccp can change to make it better i would like to hear what those are. As I see it (and i can't speak for the amarrians) caldari's problem is we have less players, are not as well funded (we've never had a titan) and there is only a handful of small corps and alliances that work together.
I don't see anyway ccp can change this. Even before all the changes to fw all caldari fw drew was carebear alts to run missions for isk for their main who was in gallente or in null sec. For whatever reason caldari cannot draw the amount of dedicated corps/alliances that stay in fw and build. I mean hell one of the most balanced times was when we had wolfsbrigade and 4 horsemen and wolfsbrigade is just sotf's lacky's. Basically you had to put a gallente corp in caldari to make it balanced.
Nothing you do can change the fact that caldari for whatever reason cannot draw substantial pvp corps/alliances. Taking all the systems or giving us all the systems wouldn't change a thing to make better pvp. Say we had all the systems all it would mean is there would just be more farmer in caldari not anymore pvp pilots. I think the only thing you could do is put wolfsbrigade back into caldari then at least you would have them to fight.
Anyway would like to hear what gallente thinks would fix these problems or what they see as the problems and fixes. |

Feffri
Dark Circle Enforcement Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2012.12.21 21:15:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Feffri wrote:I agree with op that fw is pretty crappy about now but I disagree in that there is anything ccp can do. If op believes that there is something ccp can change to make it better i would like to hear what those are. As I see it (and i can't speak for the amarrians) caldari's problem is we have less players, are not as well funded (we've never had a titan) and there is only a handful of small corps and alliances that work together.
I don't see anyway ccp can change this. Even before all the changes to fw all caldari fw drew was carebear alts to run missions for isk for their main who was in gallente or in null sec. For whatever reason caldari cannot draw the amount of dedicated corps/alliances that stay in fw and build. I mean hell one of the most balanced times was when we had wolfsbrigade and 4 horsemen and wolfsbrigade is just sotf's lacky's. Basically you had to put a gallente corp in caldari to make it balanced.
Nothing you do can change the fact that caldari for whatever reason cannot draw substantial pvp corps/alliances. Taking all the systems or giving us all the systems wouldn't change a thing to make better pvp. Say we had all the systems all it would mean is there would just be more farmer in caldari not anymore pvp pilots. I think the only thing you could do is put wolfsbrigade back into caldari then at least you would have them to fight.
Anyway would like to hear what gallente thinks would fix these problems or what they see as the problems and fixes. I think that the fix where if no-one is running a button it counts down to the start state (not capture, just the beginning state) is greatly needed to curtail the influence of farmers, and CCP does have it in their backlog. That way, a single pvp chasing around a farmer (or famrers) would make the pvper more efficient at plexing than the farmer, unlike the current situation. As far as the ISK differential - pre retribution changes it was pretty awful for the losing side because it was more expensive (in ISK!) to get items than high sec mission runners. It was so bad some items were cheaper to buy off the market than to buy from the LP store. I don't think it is that bad now, but I wouldn't be against increasing the losing side's LP payouts/decreasing the winners if it's demoralizing the losing side. As far as the caldari drawing a smaller amount of significant pvp corps - it has been this way for a long while, but only recently with the changes to plexes has this affected the occupancy war - for a long time the occupancy war was fought solely by a core of pilots in the crucial after dt timezone, and then after that the rats still heavily favoured minmatar/caldari and you saw both of them crush the occupancy war because of the flood off farmers in gunless frigates (when I was in the amarr/minnie warzone running every single plex in an AB pvp fit condor was hilarious). I don't think it's a numbers issue, but rather a turnover issue. The caldari militia has been wardeccing itself and full of drama for a very very long time, while the gallente corps, while definitely having their share of intercorp/alliance drama, tend to stay away from the wardec button. With all that drama, it's not that surprising that a lot of corps choose to move on rather than stay. Finally, for the most controversial and unsubstantiated part of my post: If there is one factor I think contributes the most to the Caldari's downfall, it's damar. His "unique" style of forum posts turn a lot of people away from the caldari miltia, and he's been involved in at least two internal wars between major players in the caldari militia (his name isn't an anagram of drama for nothing!) Anyways, you asked for a gallente perspective, and there it is! I'd like to see farmer influence decreased even more, but Retribution is helping - at it's height the Caldari militia used to farm 70k+ LP/day, now it's down to 10-20k for all sides.
thx chat.. I really think the button counting down to standard would be very helpful so you can't just wapr out then come back later. Maybe even make it so that if you come in plexer warps out and you sit on button it double times back down to start. e.g novcie is run down to 5 min. defender comes in and it only take 2.5min to run it back to 10 min neutral. (just thought)
yah you guys have lots of players who have been in for a long time and thats why you have a lot of cohesivness. I swear every 6 months there is massive turnover in cal mil so we can never form bond and trust. I think these are just issues cal mil has and again nothign ccp can do. I think other than the count down timer ccp should do nothing. I think it's fine and caldari just needs to try and rebuild (if we can) and maybe we'll get a pvp alliance to come in that will stay. I also don't mind there being no incetive we are losing and should'nt be given rewards for losing. I like that there are consequences it's suppose to simulate war and thats what happens there are winners and loser. Currently we are big losers but it's cal mil's job to build up our ranks and trust and not ccps.
I don't have much interaction with damarr but if that stuff is going on then thats a real bummer becuase cal mil has more then enough enemies without fighting eachother.
hopefully we can have good fights... and hold raka i really don't want to live in high sec :) |

Feffri
Dark Circle Enforcement Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:46:00 -
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Deen Wispa wrote:
Out of curiosity, does Cal Mil share comms? Or does every alliance/corp have their own? For example, did the Big 3 alliances have their own comms independent of each other? Templis, Kraken, Happy
Haha i'm surprised that you guys don't already know this... you guys have lots of spies.. But no we all have seperate comms. I have about 5 comms that we have to go in and out of. happy has their we have ours trifectas in tama has theirs. like I said not very cohesive. Thats why when you guys say "hey you have x numbers here you should be able to take us... we are normally not all in communication. |

Feffri
Dark Circle Enforcement Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:48:00 -
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chatgris wrote:Feffri wrote:hopefully we can have good fights... and hold raka i really don't want to live in high sec :) To be fair, I really have mixed feelings on this. These stations lockouts make me really want to NOT take systems from the opposing side (and I generally like the Rakapas guys). If we take Rakapas, then what, we push the Rakapas guys away from the fight :( But, there's definitely the lure of "take all systems back for the glory of the federation". The ability to say "look, we took all the systems with no faction/timezone mechanic in our favour" would be very nice to say, if we are able to achieve it. Know that if we do take Rakapas, it will be with (me having) a sad heart. I do wish that station lockouts would be removed.
Yah staging from high would really take away from the fights but we'll see. Hopefully we can muster a defence. |

Feffri
Dark Circle Enforcement Templis Dragonaors
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Posted - 2012.12.22 18:51:00 -
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Deacon Abox wrote:Chatgris, why have mixed feelings? I like fighting them too. But it is all part of the game. Before my time squids took every system benefitting from longstanding npc imbalances. Something CCP didn't give a rat's ass about for how many years? And, in some ways still doesn't. They are complaining about a power imbalance. But the numbers, more SPROT (7100) than FEDEF (5700), and the active militia numbers have been in their favor until just recently.
I think you well know that those numbers don't mean anything. Most of that 7100 comes from alts that are from people who have nothing to do with fw, spies for your side, or mission/plexing alts. Anyone who fights daily now in cal/gal militia warfare knows that we are vastly outnumbered when it comes to pvp pilots. And incredibly outnumbered vs's people actually living in low sec. I'd guess 4 to one. It also seems like more are going to bail most likely leaving templis as the last low sec alliance. So please don't quote those numbers and say that we have numerical advantage because it doesn't do the war zone just.
Also now you guys have the plexing alt advantage along with more pvp pilots who are more cohesive and actually on the same comms. However either way like i said before it's war and if you guys take rakapas from us I'll tip my hat and move on.
I'd also like to restate to ccp if you change anything in fw make it that plexes roll back to start state if no one is there. Or maybe also cyno jammer so we could cyno jam our system so sotf couldn't titan drop us. Other than that I think you guys have done a good job we are losing because we are outnumbered, out financed and don't have a cohesive well organized militia like the gals do. They built that up over years and if we hope to counter it we will have to do the same. Us losing is not a game mechanic flaw in my opinion. It's just the short commings of the caldari militia. |

Feffri
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.12.29 22:50:00 -
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I was out of game at that point, but I've heard repeatedly that Cal Militia guys didn't know of the change, until it happened. Honestly don't yea think if they knew in advance that they would have taken the systems or at least as many as possible?[/quote]
Even after the flip all those systems were vulnerable for like 3 days because they were all so far into vuln.. but we didn't flip one system. Cal mil is an unorganized group that doesn't trust each other and trolls each other more then working together.
Which is why I left I have to thank gal for making the short comings glaringly obvious in cal mil and making people in cal mil show their true colors. I'm hoping I can find a corp that is organized, coordinated and works together whether it be in one of the other fw's or with some other corp.
I also wish you would leave the amarr warzone alone the amarrians are just getting on their feet and looks like they are having fairly equal and fun fights. If your campaign has proved anything it's that fw is not broken. You guys didn't win because of game mechanics or the plex system. You won because you were more organized and worked together. While we bickered, in fought and trolled eachother. We couldn't make any kind of adequate defense and you took raka in 2.5 days.
Impressive feat guys and my hats off to you I hope i can find pilots who fly the way you do. This game is gun and I can't imagine how fun it is when you play with people that work together and are organized.. Other then dce guys, 2 years in cal mil has only shown me the opposite of this.
Either way most of you guys are respectable and after this ordeal I have more respect for the gal mil and the way they handle themselves then I do for the cal mil. Hopefully that changes because until the general attitude of cal mil changes it will always suck to be a part of.
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Feffri
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.12 01:33:00 -
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SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:And then there were none. Feel free to close thread.
? How long until you go to take all of the systems from amarr
also nice job hopefully they give you shiny medal, well deserved. |

Feffri
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.12 09:59:00 -
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SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:Feffri wrote:SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:And then there were none. Feel free to close thread. ? How long until you go to take all of the systems from amarr also nice job hopefully they give you shiny medal, well deserved. We'll see about the amarr minnie warzone. A few days ago we had to reset LNA because their pilots are really bad at NOT shooting blues. Unless something drastic changes, I am not looking forward to working with them. At the other end of the TZ spectrum, the only person in Fe0 that we were in constant contact with left for greener pastures. We will prolly come to minnie/amarr wz at some point, but atm I'd say we'll prolly shoot both sides (except for blues like Fe0 and such ofc)
haha well I'm gonna try and get into amarr fw because rvb is just gate camping and station camping with occational low sec roam slaughter. So the longer you guys stay out of it the better. Would hate to have to evac from low sec again :)
Anyway I hope that caldari can manage to bounce back the same way that amarr have been able to bounce back. It's not all douche bags in cal mil cory and the dce guys are good guys we just could never get big enough organized enough and enough experienced pilots and especially fcs. Cal mil doesn't have anyone that can rally the troops. Every one is too busy trolling each other to work together.
Way I see it is it took you guys a couple years to build up to where you are and I don't think it will be any different for cal mil. So maybe in two years or so cal mil will be able to take you on and I'd love to say I have the fortitude to stick around and build but I feel like thats what we were doing the last two years and I don't play this game enough for that. Also I'm tired of flying with groups like "world domination" Seems like caldari is mostly just new guys who have no idea how to play this game. I just want to fight with an established group with fcs and pilots.
So here's to hoping that in a couple years i can come back and kick some frog butt in internet spaceships. |

Feffri
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.12 10:07:00 -
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Deacon Abox wrote:Feffri wrote:SAJUK NIGARRA wrote:And then there were none. Feel free to close thread. ? How long until you go to take all of the systems from amarr also nice job hopefully they give you shiny medal, well deserved. Thanks for your graciousness in defeat. o7 Don't know about Amarr - Minmatar. I really haven't heard about any mass movement there. I know I'm happy right here. I'm sorry for you that you have to share your efforts with the likes of dog squat and dimmer. Lol, dog squat posting one little battle that went well. I hope they aren't as whiney on comms as they are here on the forums. 
Always, I see no need for the douchery. It's a game and we got our asses kicked in every possible way. pvp pve meta game spy game finacially. We just lost hands down and not because of game mechanics or anything ccp did. Its because of the culture that has been created in cal mil vs the gal culture. You are just more organized work together and we don't. I mean templis lost 371 pilots in the 7 days after raka fell. That number amazed me because we never had more then 30 pilots on at any one time and could never get more then 15 templis guys in fleet. Templis was number 2 on dotlan for pilots lost in 7 days, and as you know we could never even field a 15 man gang.
Anyway congrats and like i said before I hope to be playing this game when the tide turns in our favor... hell maybe one day we'll have a titan to counter drop you :)... a squid can dream can't he :) ... a squid can dream |

Feffri
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.12 10:39:00 -
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Capitol One wrote:Feffri wrote:
Anyway congrats and like i said before I hope to be playing this game when the tide turns in our favor... hell maybe one day we'll have a titan to counter drop you :)... a squid can dream can't he :) ... a squid can dream
With some effort, a relatively small group of active pilots can work in cohesion and get the isk together necessary to buy a titan. It's simply a matter of trust and a little hard work, but the payoff is definitely worth it! :) Edit: Congratulations to the Gallente for achieving total domination, Gallente Victor!? 
Ok that is the most ******** thing I've ever heard.. but i'm pretty sure you're trolling. Seriously trust.. with a titan. yah here ok all 5 of you corps give me 20bil I promise not to steal it... no no trust me this is eve. :) I'm sure thats how you guys got your titan.
The reality probably is you have someone who was in goons or something has more isk then they know what to do with and bought the titan themselves... or was in something like goons and stole the titan.
Also c'mon pets brigade you used to be in cal mil you should know better then anyone that trust and caldari militia are two words that never go together .. it's like saying honorable pirate. |
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Feffri
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.12 10:55:00 -
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Gallactica wrote:Nope, SOTF's first corp / alliance Titan and char purchase was funded entirely by its members.
30 bil from me and the other 90 or so completely by donations from the corp / alliance - it took us a little while but we got there.
Reputation / trust means everything in eve and there are others like me that wouldn't **** on people no matter how muh isk is involved.
well that is impressive would be nice to be in corp that had that kind of trust. |

Feffri
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.12 19:13:00 -
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Just curious, so what are you looking at 100 bil for titan hull another 50bil for titan pilot or take the time to train main for titan.. btut then that sucks cause main can't be in fight. then need titan holding alt.. 10 bil?
Then what are the bare minnimum (not to sit in hull) skills to effetivly use the titan properly for just sitting in pos then jumping people out?
Might make alt and start training.. or get alt into gal mil and start grinding isk lets see 150bil at 1000isk per lp... just need 150million lp and if i could make 150klp an hour it would be 1000 hours of plexing. Ok no prob see you in 42 days with my titan :)
But I see what you mean that if you had a corp that could trust eachother with such a thing 50 guys would need to grind 20-25 hours of plexes which we all have grinded many more hours then that. Hard part in that equation is finding 50 trustworthy guys in cal mil.. especially considering that if we had 50 guys to do it 10 would probably be gal alts that would take the titan :) |

Feffri
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.13 01:08:00 -
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ALUCARD 1208 wrote:feffri plexes are **** isk missions is were the lps are at and its alot quicker to grind so ur figures are wrong and veshta when have titans been able to project into empire?? are we playing the same game?
I was trying to be conservative.. saying the worst you probably could get for lp is 1k isk per lp and a fair amt of lp to earn per hour was 150k. Just trying to get a round about idea of what it would take for 50 or so pilots to obtain a titan. It's really not as daunting a task as I thought. As far as the is and time required. Now the trust thing is where I don't think it could ever happen for caldari. But 50 guys each throw in 2bil a piece theres your titan hull essentially. Then someone trains or you buy the titan alt I assumed 50bil was fair another one bil each so 3 bil for 50 guys who are in fw is not that much all of us have at least 20 bil that have been in the fw for at least a couple years. Thats all I was getting at.
However if its possible to make better isk per hr then what i've stated then titan is even more attainable and basically caldari need to quit bitchin.. including myself, about the titan because if we could trust eachother we could get one. |

Feffri
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.13 04:56:00 -
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Why are caldari saying evoke turned the tide. Gallente stated in this post they were going to allow caldari to take back some systems. This is all it is they are allowing caldari to take back systems so that they have people to shoot. I'm sure gate camping the high sec entry points is pretty boring for them. Also if to say evoke is going to make a difference is premature at best. For all we know they are just another flash in the pan like so many caldari entrants before them, and if they could really make a difference they would of been able to stop gallente from their goal of taking every system.
In the end I will be surprised if they are not just like nulli, trifetas, petsbrigade, kraken, null ocular order, and happy endings. More then likely they see that caldari fw lp store prices are rising and want to grind lp eventually get back to t2 and grind more lp to take advantage as teh price of caldari lp store items rises by another 20-30%. Then you will just add evoke to the list and things will return to how they are now.
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Feffri
Sheep Teet Industries
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Posted - 2013.01.13 09:38:00 -
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Cynthia Nezmor wrote:Feffri wrote:Why are caldari saying evoke turned the tide. Gallente stated in this post they were going to allow caldari to take back some systems. This is all it is they are allowing caldari to take back systems so that they have people to shoot. I'm sure gate camping the high sec entry points is pretty boring for them. Also if to say evoke is going to make a difference is premature at best. For all we know they are just another flash in the pan like so many caldari entrants before them, and if they could really make a difference they would of been able to stop gallente from their goal of taking every system.
In the end I will be surprised if they are not just like nulli, trifetas, petsbrigade, kraken, null ocular order, and happy endings. More then likely they see that caldari fw lp store prices are rising and want to grind lp eventually get back to t2 and grind more lp to take advantage as teh price of caldari lp store items rises by another 20-30%. Then you will just add evoke to the list and things will return to how they are now.
Now if only you could post with your main...
Are you a troll.. or just a complete ******? This is my main you douche maybe you should post with your main... or if you are just trolling nice troll however either way you are still just a douche who obviously has no idea what they are saying and should probably refrain from making comments of any kind on any subjects. |
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