IMHO, Sansha would make a better high-sec CSM representative. He may be an NPC, but he has more name recognition than James 315 could ever hope for. Universal popularity is key to consolidating the high-sec vote, IMO.

Poasting in a Null Sec hates High Sec Thread yet again. (yawn).

Really, there is nothing more interesting going on ????

Poasting in a Null Sec hates High Sec Thread yet again. (yawn).

Really, there is nothing more interesting going on ????

As far as I can tell, you're the first person to bring that up in this thread.

^ Yeah but Sansha allows CCP to nerf them. That would always make the CSM weak.

Someone that may have once run a ponzi scheme and nowadays shitposts and bumps miners and 'singlehandedly' runs a personal blog where he sperges biased playground level babble on subjects of no consequence has no relevance representing high-sec interests.

Ooh, catfight time.

Well a nerf is still better than outright removal...

Someone that may have once run a ponzi scheme and nowadays shitposts and bumps miners and 'singlehandedly' runs a personal blog where he sperges biased playground level babble on subjects of no consequence has no relevance representing high-sec interests.

It's not a cat fight. Spank is just summing up James' qualifications. Which is zero.

Someone that may have once run a ponzi scheme and nowadays shitposts and bumps miners and 'singlehandedly' runs a personal blog where he sperges biased playground level babble on subjects of no consequence has no relevance representing high-sec interests.

Who? Is this a goon troll post?

It's not a cat fight. Spank is just summing up James' qualifications. Which is zero.

HYDRA RELOADED.

Thing is, the percentages of people voting are so skewed away from hisec that hisec is likely not electing its own representation anyway. Whoever proclaims to be representing them would actually have to be voted into office by residents of other space.

Since the last time this topic was brought up, there was widespread support from pirates and nullsec-dwellers for James 315 as hisec representative, so he has a real chance of winning (unlike Sansha).

Who? Is this a goon troll post?

10,058 nuff said

James 315: Not the candidate you want, but the candidate you deserve.

I guess they could have went with HYDRA FEDERATION, but to each their own right?

I'm sure any candidate that supports ideas that would cost CCP money would do very well on the CSM and be a leading force for change ... or not.

Despite the fear and fear-mongering I see from some in this thread, James would make an excellent CSM member. Instead of making baseless assumptions, not to mention drastically over-estimating the "power" the CSM has, how about asking what he'd do and what his vision is?

He'd bump the other CSM members for starters.

He'd bump the other CSM members for starters.

And that is bad/relevant how?

James 315: Not the candidate you want, but the candidate you deserve.

Despite the fear and fear-mongering I see from some in this thread, James would make an excellent CSM member. Instead of making baseless assumptions, not to mention drastically over-estimating the "power" the CSM has, how about asking what he'd do and what his vision is?

I'm sure that CCP's own analysts are capable of deciding whether or not EVE would make more money by a) becoming a WoW-clone or b) continuing to occupy the niche that has made it the longest-running widely successful MMO ever.

I wonder how many alts this guy is using in a desperate grab for attention?

Nobody gives a **** about him nor whatever he's trying to do in highsec. Really.

I wonder how many alts this guy is using in a desperate grab for attention?

an egotistical ******* who uses one sided game mechanics to extort people with no proper way of retaliating

he perfected abusing the hell out of miners in a way that makes him completely untouchable to conventional retaliation because he hides behind a mechanic that leaves no way for the victims to gain killrights and sits in NPC corps as a way of being immune to wardecs, leaving miners with the choice of ruining their standings and only wining a temporary victory against his insanely effective money making crusade and religious following of his mad creed which seems to be completely absorbed into his ego and sustaining his very being, that even if he was killed would probably lead to him to accusing them of using dirty tactics.

James 315 embodies all of the values of High Sec, he is a leader, he has a plan, he knows what he wants and by god he knows how to get it, you should vote for this man to be CSM 8, because he is the man for the job, the man who can do it, who will do it, he is the man you deserve, the man deep down you know you want, the man you need, the right man, the man for High Sec!

If you vote for James 315, you know what you are getting, you are getting an egotistical troll with a god complex who wont fight anyone on fair terms or even unfair terms, instead using a completely one sided and unfair tactic that you cannot defend against unless your own self destruction is worth it to only encourage his misguided crusader against the evils of high sec miners and their love of easy AFK ISK farming, ruining the work of intelligent miners who learnt from Hulkaggendon and stopped AFK mining and started fitting their ships with proper tank only for someone to come along and not even have the decency to engage them on terms that allow them to fight back, choosing to be a coward and bump without an risk to himself them until they give up on mining and all the **** they dealt with or pay him 10 million ISK and surrender to his extortion campaign.

James 315: Not the candidate you want, but the candidate you deserve.

We will not fight for James 315, therefore we do not deserve him, and will lose him.

At least, that's what I'm hoping for, by the grace of Great Tippia's Ghost.

(and other people)

Who is going to rage other than AFK miners and bots, hm? And why?

do you really eat that ****? james do it cos he like tears, not to change highsec, he grief all the miners not the afkers and especially not the botters, botters dont cry, they just launch an other miner. he grief those who JUST can live from mining.

Botters do cry when you gank the third or fourth Mackinaw.

As for changing highsec versus being amused by tears, why would the New Order offer extremely cheap mining permits if all we wanted were tears? What puts you in a better position than mine to judge James' motives? Why can't we change highsec and enjoy the impotent rage of those criminals who would stand against us?

if mittani can be there then james would be a proper partner. ccp like to surround itself with monkeys


do you really eat that ****? james do it cos he like tears, not to change highsec, he grief all the miners not the afkers and especially not the botters, botters dont cry, they just launch an other miner. he grief those who JUST can live from mining.

...James' effect on Highsec could not be clearer. You merely have to visit the system of Kamio to see the effect that his organization has had on the area in only twenty days; Local chat is active and stimulating...

The amount of players in this thread with no sense of humor is staggering.

The amount of players in this thread with no sense of humor is staggering.

The amount of players in this thread with no sense of humor is staggering.

The amount of players in this thread with no sense of humor is staggering.

The amount of players in this thread with no sense of humor is staggering.

Well here is a good why James 315 should not be on the CSM

During a debate with other CSM members things get a little tense.

But James 315 falling into normal patterns, immediately hides behind a chair and demands CCP save him as the people he is arguing against do not appear to be defenseless, so he wants the CSM version of CONCORD to save him

One of the current disagreements with CSM7 is that it is not activist enough, we really don't need cowards, when we need people to stand up to CCP on points.

It may just be the character he is playing but personally the risk is too great.

But James 315 falling into normal patterns, immediately hides behind a chair and demands CCP save him as the people he is arguing against do not appear to be defenseless, so he wants the CSM version of CONCORD to save him

If James 315 manages to get elected to the CSM, I will be happy to provide him (for a modest fee, of course) with one of my custom-anodized Tech-II Folding Titanium Assault Sporks . An elegant weapon for a more civilized age, the CAT2FTAS is optimized not only for defense, but also short-range (scooping) and long-range (throwing) offensive maneuvers. 4 hand-sharpened Prongs Of PiercingGäó ensure that your opponent will truly get the point.

The CAT2FTAS -- the official weapon of the CSM.

But... does it bump things?

No, No

That should be "But... does it bump defenseless things?

We've all established months ago that there are perfectly good defenses against bumping.

Yes but they don't like bumping things with guns

oh....*sniff*
heh

yeah, no....

I'm flattered to see that you feel the need to reiterate my own points, but did you have anything to add?

You pay the guy off once, and for all practical purposes are subsidizing him to go about disrupting your competitors, like, forever.

Eh... not quite. Usually this is what it amounts to, but the miner bumpers have no central repository of "who paid". If a new miner bumper decides to start operating in your mining system, you may have to pay the 10 mil again.

CSM8?

Seems like a demotion from the Saviour of Highsec. But, if that's what the big guy wants he's got my votes.

A share is a single unit of ownership in a corporation, mutual fund, or any other organization. A joint stock company divides its capital into shares, which are offered for sale to raise capital, termed as issuing shares. Thus, a share is an indivisible unit of capital, expressing the proprietary relationship between the company and the shareholder. The denominated value of a share is its face value: the total capital of a company is divided into a number of shares.

In financial markets, a share is a unit of account for various financial instruments including stocks (ordinary or preferential), and investments in limited partnerships, and real estate investment trusts. The common feature of all these is equity participation (limited in the case of preference shares).

The income received from shares is known as a dividend. A shareholder, also known as a stockholder, is a person who owns shares of a certain company or organization, and is thus a part-owner of the company. The process of purchasing and selling shares often involves going through a stockbroker as a middle man.

I wonder if your shares have the words "Non refundable" and "Share is worth no monetary value" on them

I wonder if your shares have the words "Non refundable" and "Share is worth no monetary value" on them

And probably your money as well.

Have to give it to James 315, he hasn't really done anything to bother miners as a whole but he has managed to loot peoples wallets by selling them "shares", that are in reality just a great scam by him.

oh and for those of you still gullible enough an actual share is

I wonder if your shares have the words "Non refundable" and "Share is worth no monetary value" on them

This time, however, we had a new experience. CCP said "no".

The carebears were outmatched and outfought on the forums. They were finally rebuffed by CCP, the tool with which the carebears have beaten down so many good and proper game mechanics. The carebears received that measure of disappointment which they have so often meted out to others.

It's also worth noting that, unlike another would-be highsec representitive, James can clearly distinguish between in-game violence of a type well within the rules of Eve, and heinous attacks on women in real life.

James 315 would make a fine representative for highsec players and can be trusted to do what is in their best interests - not merely what they believe is in their best interests.

Glorious news! The saviour has just announced to a packed Brapelille local that he will run for CSM 8. The crowd is going wild.

Highsec has just been saved.

Glorious news! The saviour has just announced to a packed Brapelille local that he will run for CSM 8. The crowd is going wild.

315!

The guy is a Cyber Bully, a known scammer and extortionist who continues to scam.

I would suggest that as the The Mittani can't stand due to his very public Cyber Bully episode and ban this person will follow a similar doctrine and encourage Cyber Bullying in Eve and maybe take it to a new level.

To allow this bully to represent players in Eve would be a bad move for all players who want a balanced game.

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Anyone But James, he is just a Cult. (I said C U L T, no N in here).

______________________________

The guy is a Cyber Bully, a known scammer and extortionist who continues to scam.

I would suggest that as the The Mittani can't stand due to his very public Cyber Bully episode and ban this person will follow a similar doctrine and encourage Cyber Bullying in Eve and maybe take it to a new level.

To allow this bully to represent players in Eve would be a bad move for all players who want a balanced game.

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Anyone But James, he is just a Cult. (I said C U L T, no N in here).

______________________________

The guy is a Cyber Bully, a known scammer and extortionist who continues to scam.

I would suggest that as the The Mittani can't stand due to his very public Cyber Bully episode

To allow this bully to represent players in Eve would be a bad move for all players who want a balanced game.

Anyone But James, he is just a Cult. (I said C U L T, no N in here).

To allow this bully to represent players in Eve would be a bad move for all players who want a balanced game.

The guy is a Cyber Bully, a known scammer and extortionist who continues to scam.

I would suggest that as the The Mittani can't stand due to his very public Cyber Bully episode and ban this person will follow a similar doctrine and encourage Cyber Bullying in Eve and maybe take it to a new level.

To allow this bully to represent players in Eve would be a bad move for all players who want a balanced game.

---

Anyone But James, he is just a Cult. (I said C U L T, no N in here).

______________________________

The guy is a Cyber Bully, a known scammer and extortionist who continues to scam.

I would suggest that as the The Mittani can't stand due to his very public Cyber Bully episode and ban this person will follow a similar doctrine and encourage Cyber Bullying in Eve and maybe take it to a new level.

To allow this bully to represent players in Eve would be a bad move for all players who want a balanced game.

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Anyone But James, he is just a Cult. (I said C U L T, no N in here).

______________________________

But a GREAT move for those who want an unbalanced game... Equilibrium eventually decays into stagnation. Think of him as a spoon stirring up the pulp in your morning glass of ice cold orange juice, so that the final gulp doesn't clog your throat and choke you to death... Besides, one person's balance is another's handcuffs...

I fully support the theme-parking of Eve.

Anyone but James will be getting my vote!

I fully support the theme-parking of Eve.

Anyone but James will be getting my vote!

Wouldn't it be simpler to quit Eve and play one of the eleventy-one other MMOs out there? You know, the ones that are already theme parks?

Simple. Because that wouldn't get me closer to my goal of making pilots of internet spaceships as butthurt as possible. Duh.

Then I commend you for realising that charity begins at home.

Amazing to see people really argue about the worth of shares in the New Order, I guess it goes to show how much (or rather how little) they understand about James 315 and the New Order.

I support James315 because High Sec needs a change, keep up the current amount of botting iceminers and new players will believe that is all EVE has to offer. The sense of entitlement amongst the botters shows when they file petitions, when they go insane over being bumped and when they seriously try to find out rl data of bumpers in order to stop them.

Play anyway you want, but always keep in mind that EVE is not a single player game, people might interact with you in whatever way they want to play the game. And for the love of all that is holy, keep in mind its a game (did I just say that....) and having a laugh will be much better then going apeshit over lost pixels.

I will admit it is hell funny that the people he got billions off for these "shares" are the same ones supporting him. Paying for entrance into the cowards club. Well I suppose it is better for your ego than say going to Null and getting splattered like the bugs you are.

There really is one born every minute.

There really is one born every minute.

There IS an AFK miner born every minute. We have a big job ahead of us correcting them.

Yes I agree completely, you really need that edge, you should donate all your earnings to James 315 for the cause.

Not only will they be bumped by the saviour of high sec but also the main CSM rep for high sec. I think that is pretty amazing.

this thread is clearly about to be taken over by james' personal grunts. have any of you tried to step back a little bit and to look at what he proposes from a distance? stop being such boneheads please.

this thread is clearly about to be taken over by james' personal grunts. have any of you tried to step back a little bit and to look at what he proposes from a distance? stop being such boneheads please.

IMHO, Sansha would make a better high-sec CSM representative. He may be an NPC, but he has more name recognition than James 315 could ever hope for. Universal popularity is key to consolidating the high-sec vote, IMO.

Actually it is best to keep some ISK for yourself, otherwise it just takes longer to donate it, then claim the reimbursements back.

Well you could always sell those shares......Oh wait I saw what happened when someone tried that on another forum

No thanks, James 315 is an idiot, go listen to http://crossingzebras.com/. If people don't play the way he thinks we should play then we should be encouraged to quit.

After hearing him on the Crossing Zebras podcast, I can say for sure that the guy is a moron and has no clue how this game works, both in player interaction and actual game mechanics. I would sooner vote for a newbie still on his trail account for CSM than James 315. The newbie at least has the balls to admit he doesn't know how the game works.

IIRC, no one who has been banned for an EULA violation can run for CSM. Does James actually qualify?

I can respect the new order using force to "Fix" high-sec into what it thinks it should be, but politicking CCP is just low.

Will the game really be better with players being pushed out of high-sec? With high-sec players outnumbering the rest, it probably won't happen.

IIRC, no one who has been banned for an EULA violation can run for CSM. Does James actually qualify?

Why don't you petition it.

A Heath Major alt? I think it could be!

Why don't you petition it.

I'm just curious. I disagree with James on some important issues, but I respect his passion for his vision of EVE. However his passion is moot if he's not qualified to run.

Why don't you petition it.

Firstly, there's nothing wrong with scamming.

And thus why I laughed.
Do not confuse legality with morality.

You should watch out for confusing actions in a vidya game with morality, too.

You are a human being.
I am a human being.
Morality is involved.

You don't have to agree. But there it is.

You are a human being.
I am a human being.
Morality is involved.

You don't have to agree. But there it is.

It's comical how Eve-culturally-centric and narrow-minded that is. Thus, I laughed.

Anyways, no need to continue this further. Either you get it, or you don't, and James has an official thread which should be bumped more than this one.

It's comical how Eve-culturally-centric and narrow-minded that is. Thus, I laughed.

Anyways, no need to continue this further. Either you get it, or you don't, and James has an official thread which should be bumped more than this one.

*non-related gibberish*

shut up james, why dont you at least post with your "main character" ? people are discussing "you" on forum threads without having heard one actual word from "you"

shut up james, why dont you at least post with your "main character" ? people are discussing "you" on forum threads without having heard one actual word from "you"

shut up james, why dont you at least post with your "main character" ? people are discussing "you" on forum threads without having heard one actual word from "you"

Someone that may have once run a ponzi scheme and nowadays shitposts and bumps miners and 'singlehandedly' runs a personal blog where he sperges biased playground level babble on subjects of no consequence has no relevance representing high-sec interests.

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Why do you think he has to post on EvE-O when his blog is getting so many visitors?

You're at work in real life. There are maybe twenty other people working with you. One of these people is a boring jerk who incessantly takes the **** out of the weakest/strangest person in the room. He often pushes the boat out too far. This jerk could be James 315.

To get nominated?

Linky please to the official candidacy thread, I seem to have missed it.

Reading all these candidates' posts is too much work.
I just want to vote against James 315.
What's the best way to do that?

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74283

You're adorable.

Reading all these candidates' posts is too much work.
I just want to vote against James 315.
What's the best way to do that?

Well, aren't you a special little snowflake?

Linky to *james* candidacy thread.

You know, the one where he throws his hat in the ring...

Otherwise this is just more BS as usual.

By voting for him.

I've received a few questions asking me how this would work. So far, nobody I've replied to has understood the physics involved correctly, so let me try to give a brief explanation. Essentially, according to the Uncertainty Principle, when you want to interfere with the measurement of an object, all you have to do is participate with that object. To disrupt the CSM efforts of the Saviour of HighSec, you can vote for the Saviour of HighSec, and that will disrupt the measurement of his vote to the point that he cannot be elected. This is a surefire way for protesters to ensure his defeat, according to my understanding of particle physics.

If you disagree with my reading, you'd best be prepared to show your educational endorsements on this matter, and if yours cannot defeat mine, you're practically certain to be wrong.

James315 is a dirtbag of the first and highest level, and those New Order lackeys of his are just pirates in disguise. That protection money scam he and his minions are running in and around Kamio is like something out of 1929 Chicago.

That someone so widely loathed and detested could possibly have any chance of being elected to "represent" the very people he victimizes is a serious indictment of the whole CSM system.

A man who (and encourages his corp members also to) effectively grief and oppress the highsec residents

as per link below is not someone I want in CSM representing my interests as a highsec industrialists and occasionas FW defender of the Caldari State.

http://soundcloud.com/drtylereve/mineteck20130301

Considering that James315 spends a majority of his Eve gametime parading as the "Saviour" of highsec and organising an alliance to further his in game aspirations which is fundementally "highsec is broken" is probably a very good yard stick with which to mesure his intentions considering the website

It also reflects the playerbase that will vote for him.

Afterall the Mittani eventually showed his own thoughts and feelings were not to diseperate from his online charecter, particularly after a few beers.

Also to suggest that I also have some difficulty with seperating reality from fantasy from one post also indicates a level of fanaticism on your part that quite frankly is disturbing.

Fact: Highsec is broken.

Also to suggest that I also have some difficulty with separating reality from fantasy from one post also indicates a level of fanaticism on your part that quite frankly is disturbing.

I didn't say *you* had difficulty, I was just making a general observation. I seem to have touched a nerve, though.

Fact: Highsec is broken.

Fact: James doesn't spend any time "organising an alliance" - I've spent more time organising Code. then he has, which is to say I put the forum together. What he does is dispense justice and mercy, as is appropriate for the saviour of high sec.

You mean people who want to see highsec fixed?

I wasn't there, but my understanding is that it was considerably more than "a few beers". People do and say regrettable things when drunk. The measure of a man is how he conducts himself after sobering up and realising what he's done. The Mittani conducted himself in an honourable way. I'm really not sure what this has to do with James having a vast knowledge of the game and a desire to see CCP address important issues.

I didn't say *you* had difficulty, I was just making a general observation. I seem to have touched a nerve, though.

You're falling into the same trap that a lot of people fell into when Mittens was the CSM chair - you're confusing James 315, saviour of highsec and target of huge amounts of unreasonable hatred by rabid bot aspirants, with the guy behind the character who seeks election to represent the players to CCP. Anyone who can't distinguish between the two should probably seek psychiatric help.

While you acting as his forum admin may be "Fact" I will also take it that he is to busy dispensing "Justice" and "Mercy" to actually promote his own CSM campaign and is relying on his co-horts to promote his message... as vague as this message appears to be.

I'm beginning to suspect that these cohorts are just Jim 315 himself, speaking through his alts.

This is an opinion, not a fact, if you are going to state a "Fact" you should support it with evidence. And this is an opinion that I do not agree with. Indeed I find James315 arguments that highsec is broken to be vague and lacking.

While you acting as his forum admin may be "Fact" I will also take it that he is to busy dispensing "Justice" and "Mercy" to actually promote his own CSM campaign and is relying on his co-horts to promote his message... as vague as this message appears to be.

• Evidence #1: An overwhelming majority of characters live in high-sec.
• Evidence #2: Miner ganking is at historic lows according to the CSM minutes.
• Evidence #3: It's more profitable for a miner to fit for yield and get ganked occasionally, than to fit tank and sacrifice yield.

Conclusion: High sec is either too safe, or too rewarding.

Characters =/= players
Scouts, traders, haulers and logistics (some or all of them alts of Low-sec/Null-sec/WH players) count against the total.

Because ganking is the only pvp in hi-sec

evidence #3 is the same for hi and null sec miners (and possibly low-sec miners as well).

• Evidence #1: An overwhelming majority of characters live in high-sec.
• Evidence #2: Miner ganking is at historic lows according to the CSM minutes.
• Evidence #3: It's more profitable for a miner to fit for yield and get ganked occasionally, than to fit tank and sacrifice yield.

Conclusion: High sec is either too safe, or too rewarding.

In order to declare "hi-sec is broken" as fact, you're going to have to have an objective standard to be making this comparison of off. But as far as I can tell, y'all don't have one. Tell me if I'm wrong. What you have is your opinion as to what hi-sec should look like; that is the standard you are using to declare it broken.

Wescro2, you are still making a leap from the 3 evidences to the conclusion. It's difficult to define the word "too" off the top of one's head, but what you're saying here is that current conditions are far off from some standard.

Problem is...Where does that standard come from??

In order to declare "hi-sec is broken" as fact, you're going to have to have an objective standard to be making this comparison of off. But as far as I can tell, y'all don't have one. Tell me if I'm wrong. What you have is your opinion as to what hi-sec should look like; that is the standard you are using to declare it broken.

Considering that EVE has four flavors of space, and one has 80% of the population, I'd say the standard I'm measuring the current state against is an average distribution.

I don't think it's good for the game to have "bastard children," ie, neglected areas that only a few people care about. Especially if that particular area cuts against the theme of the game.

Restaurant analogies are popular in some of the other threads so let's put it like this. The current high sec is like a salad bar at a steak house that is threatening to shut down the grill and make the place vegetarian only.

Candidates like James 315 are advocating reducing the salad bar to an appetizer and putting the focus back on the steak.