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Gilbert Intaki
Empire Tax Revenue Service
19
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:34:00 -
[1] - Quote
With CCP constantly pushing new offers of PLEX at reduced rates, the PLEX market is starting to head south in a big way.
You know what they say: "Don't fight the Fed"
Sell while you can... |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
1243
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:35:00 -
[2] - Quote
Oh thank GOD !
-á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
854
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:38:00 -
[3] - Quote
Gilbert Intaki wrote:
With CCP constantly pushing new offers of PLEX at reduced rates, the PLEX market is starting to head south in a big way.
Sell while you can...
Thanks for the info! Id hate to have to jump off the roof of my PLEX traders headquarters when my PLEX fueld retirement fund disappears.
Also: OP go resculpt your toon...I dont want anyone mistaking you for me.
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Rain6637
Team Evil
40
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:38:00 -
[4] - Quote
you -do- realize CCP holds all they keys when it comes to market, and they use seized botter accounts (and assets) to control prices as they see fit.
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Also: OP go resculpt your toon...I dont want anyone mistaking you for me.
omg i lawl'd
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Singularity all items in market cost 100 ISK on the test server ;-) |
Lolar55
Titan Core
22
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:39:00 -
[5] - Quote
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Gilbert Intaki wrote:
With CCP constantly pushing new offers of PLEX at reduced rates, the PLEX market is starting to head south in a big way.
Sell while you can...
Thanks for the info! Id hate to have to jump off the roof of my PLEX traders headquarters when my PLEX fueld retirement fund disappears. Also: OP go resculpt your toon...I dont want anyone mistaking you for me.
He is your long lost brother. |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
250
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:40:00 -
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A year of relentless Plex deals and they have dropped 5% so you will understand if I am a bit of a skeptic.
R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Gilbert Intaki
Empire Tax Revenue Service
19
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:42:00 -
[7] - Quote
Ioci wrote:A year of relentless Plex deals and they have dropped 5% so you will understand if I am a bit of a skeptic.
660 => 560 is 18%, and it's going lower.
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Gaia Ma'chello
V.I.C.E.
42
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:51:00 -
[8] - Quote
Gilbert Intaki wrote:With CCP constantly pushing new offers of PLEX at reduced rates, the PLEX market is starting to head south in a big way.
You know what they say: "Don't fight the Fed"
Sell while you can...
Someone needs to PLEX all their accounts.... |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
250
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Posted - 2012.12.22 00:54:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:Ioci wrote:A year of relentless Plex deals and they have dropped 5% so you will understand if I am a bit of a skeptic. 660 => 560 is 18%, and it's going lower.
It didn't stay at 660. 600 was the bar, according to Jita they are selling for 570 right now. 30 is 5% of 600 and we both know they will never see 500 again. Plex should never have been a day traders toy. If someone loses a few billion I have very little empathy for them.
R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Vaal Erit
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
400
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Posted - 2012.12.22 01:10:00 -
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Rain6637 wrote:you -do- realize CCP holds all they keys when it comes to market, and they use seized botter accounts (and assets) to control prices as they see fit.
CCP also shot JFK, faked the moon landing and is a front for Area 51. |
Ginger Barbarella
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
363
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Posted - 2012.12.22 01:28:00 -
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Is that the best you can do?!?!?
Well, good luck with that.
Fly Minmatar Air --- "Trust in the Rust!" |
Sentamon
392
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Posted - 2012.12.22 01:30:00 -
[12] - Quote
is this tears from PLEX speculators I see?
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam
Disturbed Acquaintance
212
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Posted - 2012.12.22 01:31:00 -
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Vaal Erit wrote:Rain6637 wrote:you -do- realize CCP holds all they keys when it comes to market, and they use seized botter accounts (and assets) to control prices as they see fit. CCP also shot JFK, faked the moon landing and is a front for Area 51.
i hear they have Elvis in the basement
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Nexus Day
Lustrevik Trade and Travel Bureau
184
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Posted - 2012.12.22 01:42:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:Rain6637 wrote:you -do- realize CCP holds all they keys when it comes to market, and they use seized botter accounts (and assets) to control prices as they see fit. CCP also shot JFK, faked the moon landing and is a front for Area 51. i hear they have Elvis in the basement
No. But I heard Entity does. |
Jim Era
6262
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Posted - 2012.12.22 01:46:00 -
[15] - Quote
wat
this thread again |
Seven Koskanaiken
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2012.12.22 01:47:00 -
[16] - Quote
Kitty Bear wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:Rain6637 wrote:you -do- realize CCP holds all they keys when it comes to market, and they use seized botter accounts (and assets) to control prices as they see fit. CCP also shot JFK, faked the moon landing and is a front for Area 51. i hear they have Elvis in the basement
and marilyn monroe
who still looks exactly the babe she did in 1952 |
Spectre Wraith
Darwin Inc.
53
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Posted - 2012.12.22 01:54:00 -
[17] - Quote
Guess how much I care if PLEX goes down? |
Mars Theran
Pod Kings
514
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Posted - 2012.12.22 02:21:00 -
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Kitty Bear wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:Rain6637 wrote:you -do- realize CCP holds all they keys when it comes to market, and they use seized botter accounts (and assets) to control prices as they see fit. CCP also shot JFK, faked the moon landing and is a front for Area 51. i hear they have Elvis in the basement
and Jimmy Hoffa in the tub.
zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Mars Theran
Pod Kings
514
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Posted - 2012.12.22 02:22:00 -
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Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:Rain6637 wrote:you -do- realize CCP holds all they keys when it comes to market, and they use seized botter accounts (and assets) to control prices as they see fit. CCP also shot JFK, faked the moon landing and is a front for Area 51. i hear they have Elvis in the basement and marilyn monroe who still looks exactly the babe she did in 1952
Pictures don't lie. Hey, it's not like she had a chance to age well.. poor girl.
zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
4670
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Posted - 2012.12.22 02:30:00 -
[20] - Quote
Mars Theran wrote:Seven Koskanaiken wrote:Kitty Bear wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:Rain6637 wrote:you -do- realize CCP holds all they keys when it comes to market, and they use seized botter accounts (and assets) to control prices as they see fit. CCP also shot JFK, faked the moon landing and is a front for Area 51. i hear they have Elvis in the basement and marilyn monroe who still looks exactly the babe she did in 1952 Pictures don't lie. Hey, it's not like she had a chance to age well.. poor girl.
Didn't she have an extra toe or something? She belongs in area 51 
"Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á |
Rain6637
Team Evil
40
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Posted - 2012.12.22 02:50:00 -
[21] - Quote
sorry. maybe an inappropriate time to inject my belief that a game market will not behave the way people think (when accurate speculation in it can affect real money income of the game's creator)
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Buckingham <-all items in market cost 100 ISK on the test server ;-) [[I found my capital ship PVE]] |
Sarmea Moon
Universal Freelance
CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
96
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Posted - 2012.12.22 04:13:00 -
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Ahem. I disagree. People tend to not buy anything for the couple months after Xmas, as they are all paying off credit card bills. I think it's going to rise :)
I'm guessing it'll come back down around the end of February.
The problem with defending the purity of the English language is that English is about as pure as a cribhouse [lady of commercial virtue]. We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.- James Nicoll |
ihcn
Life. Universe. Everything.
Clockwork Pineapple
38
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Posted - 2012.12.22 05:01:00 -
[23] - Quote
Gilbert Intaki wrote:Ioci wrote:A year of relentless Plex deals and they have dropped 5% so you will understand if I am a bit of a skeptic. 660 => 560 is 18%, and it's going lower.
uh
before it was 660 it was 500
i mean you do know it wasnt stable at 660 right
jesus christ i cant take the people on these forums sometimes |
Ioci
Bad Girl Posse
251
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Posted - 2012.12.22 05:26:00 -
[24] - Quote
ihcn wrote:Gilbert Intaki wrote:Ioci wrote:A year of relentless Plex deals and they have dropped 5% so you will understand if I am a bit of a skeptic. 660 => 560 is 18%, and it's going lower. uh before it was 660 it was 500 i mean you do know it wasnt stable at 660 right jesus christ i cant take the people on these forums sometimes
The trouble with 'these forums' is people have an obtuse, inability of agreeing to disagree. Myself included in that group at times.
One guy says the Plex Market will crash, another says it won't. I'm sure over then next 12 months we will all be right, just pick your month.
R.I.P. Vile Rat |
Eternal Error
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
161
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Posted - 2012.12.22 08:17:00 -
[25] - Quote
Increased demand from winter break should keep it at stable levels. I will self destruct my entire hangar if GTCs go below 1b. |
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CCP Nadir
C C P
C C P Alliance
16
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Posted - 2012.12.22 10:36:00 -
[26] - Quote
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Gilbert Intaki wrote:
With CCP constantly pushing new offers of PLEX at reduced rates, the PLEX market is starting to head south in a big way.
Sell while you can...
Thanks for the info! Id hate to have to jump off the roof of my PLEX traders headquarters when my PLEX fueld retirement fund disappears. Also: OP go resculpt your toon...I dont want anyone mistaking you for me.
Its like looking in the mirror. . . . . . . . .only not
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Dave stark
858
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Posted - 2012.12.22 10:39:00 -
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CCP Nadir wrote:Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Gilbert Intaki wrote:
With CCP constantly pushing new offers of PLEX at reduced rates, the PLEX market is starting to head south in a big way.
Sell while you can...
Thanks for the info! Id hate to have to jump off the roof of my PLEX traders headquarters when my PLEX fueld retirement fund disappears. Also: OP go resculpt your toon...I dont want anyone mistaking you for me. Its like looking in the mirror. . . . . . . . .only not
could it be, a david gemmell fan on the ccp team?
Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Brooks Puuntai
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
912
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Posted - 2012.12.22 10:51:00 -
[28] - Quote
Wait till after Christmas, it will go back up. |
Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
330
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Posted - 2012.12.22 10:56:00 -
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It's amazing how many people will hope/expect plex to keep rising, it's way above actual worth already. Just like that guy who did market speculation with those implants and lost billions, I personally would start getting rid of my plexes by now because it's only going to go down, a lot.
Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything. |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1357
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Posted - 2012.12.22 10:59:00 -
[30] - Quote
Wake me up when they're back below 350m. If that ever actually happens.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T
T2 BPO poll: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789
Buying this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=147098 |
Brooks Puuntai
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
912
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Posted - 2012.12.22 11:02:00 -
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Akita T wrote:Wake me up when they're back below 350m. If that ever actually happens.
You'll be lucky to seem them go below 450/500m. Unless there is another Incarna.
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Da Dom
Wii R
4
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Posted - 2012.12.22 11:05:00 -
[32] - Quote
Good, If plex prices fall it will be a hell of alot easier to play Eve for free |
Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
1357
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Posted - 2012.12.22 11:08:00 -
[33] - Quote
Brooks Puuntai wrote:Akita T wrote:Wake me up when they're back below 350m. If that ever actually happens. You'll be lucky to see them go below 450/500m. Unless there is another Incarna.
I tend to suspect likewise.
Da Dom wrote:Good, If plex prices fall it will be a hell of alot easier to play Eve for free
Play EVE without paying cash (you still "pay" in other ways), not play EVE for free (i.e. without having to do anything).
Tiny but crucial distinction.
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/User:Akita_T
T2 BPO poll: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=114789
Buying this: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=147098 |
Gjallarhund
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2012.12.22 13:52:00 -
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If PLEX prices fall, everyone will make more accounts proportional to the fall in price, causing it to rise again.
Some mythical intervention by CCP is not the problem - YOU, the players are the problem. |
Dave stark
858
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Posted - 2012.12.22 13:54:00 -
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Gjallarhund wrote:If PLEX prices fall, everyone will make more accounts proportional to the fall in price, causing it to rise again.
Some mythical intervention by CCP is not the problem - YOU, the players are the problem.
and how many people did you interview to obtain this fact of yours?
Reading my posts is like panning for gold; most it will be useless, but occasionally you'll find a nugget of gold. |
Zol Interbottom
The Scope
Gallente Federation
6
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Posted - 2012.12.22 14:01:00 -
[36] - Quote
Gilbert Intaki wrote:Ioci wrote:A year of relentless Plex deals and they have dropped 5% so you will understand if I am a bit of a skeptic. 660 => 560 is 18%, and it's going lower.
you didnt buy one for 660 did you?
or were you selling |
Sentamon
393
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Posted - 2012.12.22 14:15:00 -
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*PANIC* SELL YOUR PLEX STOCKPILES NOW! *PANIC*
They're going to 400.
~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |
Krixtal Icefluxor
Bison - Ammatar Thunder
1247
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Posted - 2012.12.22 14:25:00 -
[38] - Quote
Got 3 in Rens last night, rather quickly too, on 570 M Buy Orders.
-á"I am not young enough to know everything." - Oscar Wilde |
Khador Vess
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
18
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Posted - 2012.12.22 15:01:00 -
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Obvious market manipulation attempt is obvious... PLEX almost always wobbles when offers are on, power of 2, bundled offers etc. In any case look at it this way... if you bought high then worst case you PLEX you account rather than taking a big loss then its only an opportunity cost... (you have lost what you could have done with the ISK) but if you were stupid and if you put the farm on it and have nothing left then you're SOL.
My personal bet is that this is a temporary blip, prices drop and then rise again post Xmas* Though at hopefully a more sustainable level (~570 / 580)
(* I am not a financial advisor, this should not be taken as financial advice, no liability can be accepted for clueless morons who bet more than they can afford to lose. Prices of PLEX may go up as well as down, terms and conditions apply, always read the label) |
Ariel Dawn
F9X
896
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Posted - 2012.12.22 16:39:00 -
[40] - Quote
PLEX prices long term will always be going up as long as ISK faucets outweigh ISK sinks, especially to the degrees that are present in EVE.
Remember, 90 day GTCs (3 PLEXes essentially) used to go for ~300m. |
Borascus
Red Core
Paradigm Shift Alliance
189
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Posted - 2012.12.22 16:47:00 -
[41] - Quote
If anything.......
.....Suddenly! more null-sec miners(dot). only takes 3 people multiboxing 10 accounts to look legit. Especially rinsed through ship reimbursement programs...
The problem is YOU.
Yes you.
Get in the van, park it over there. |
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
1047
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Posted - 2012.12.22 17:04:00 -
[42] - Quote
OP knows **** about the market, C/D?
Nyan |
GreenSeed
96
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Posted - 2012.12.22 17:41:00 -
[43] - Quote
who cares? i mean, who is affected by this? do we care? |
Sanandrea
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.22 17:44:00 -
[44] - Quote
GreenSeed wrote:who cares? i mean, who is affected by this? do we care?
People with large PLEX stockpile are affected. |
Rico Minali
Sons Of 0din
Dark Therapy
1092
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Posted - 2012.12.22 17:54:00 -
[45] - Quote
hopefully they will return to <400 mill mark again. Though it isnt that important.
Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing. |
Sanandrea
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.22 18:11:00 -
[46] - Quote
Rico Minali wrote:hopefully they will return to <400 mill mark again. Though it isnt that important.
Indeed it isn't. Frankly with the colossal amount of isk pretty much everyone in this game has now, I'm surprised PLEX isn't well into the billions. |
Santa Spirit
Christmas Spirit and Goodwill Toward Man
62
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Posted - 2012.12.22 19:12:00 -
[47] - Quote
Gilbert Intaki wrote:Ioci wrote:A year of relentless Plex deals and they have dropped 5% so you will understand if I am a bit of a skeptic. 660 => 560 is 18%, and it's going lower.
true, but you can't forget that not too long ago plex was selling for less than 300m and I remember prices lower than that too, so as it stands now, maybe the slightly lowering price of PLEX is a sign that inflation in EvE is dropping which isn't a bad thing.
it just means that our isks will be able to buy more stuff and player will be able to buy more plex so all in all, a good thing.
just saying.
o/
Santa
-áOn Occasion, I must apologize for the things I say because they sometimes make me sound as though I have a clue.
-áPlease feel free to visit my Thread and join in on the fun Dec 24th.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=183205 |
Santa Spirit
Christmas Spirit and Goodwill Toward Man
62
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Posted - 2012.12.22 19:17:00 -
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Da Dom wrote:Good, If plex prices fall it will be a hell of alot easier to play Eve for free
not really free, but only because someone bought those PLEX from CCP through their store or an authorized reseller, so while there's no "monetary" expenditure for the player whose account is funded solely by plex bought with in-game currency, someone, somewhere, is still paying CCP RM for that account to play.
o/
Santa
-áOn Occasion, I must apologize for the things I say because they sometimes make me sound as though I have a clue.
-áPlease feel free to visit my Thread and join in on the fun Dec 24th.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=183205 |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
601
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Posted - 2012.12.22 19:25:00 -
[49] - Quote
Gilbert Intaki wrote:Ioci wrote:A year of relentless Plex deals and they have dropped 5% so you will understand if I am a bit of a skeptic. 660 => 560 is 18%, and it's going lower.
It was >590 when CCP started the deal so yeah, you're good at math.
From: Tommas De'Wins
To: Cipher Jones
Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
Sable Moran
Moran Light Industries
82
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Posted - 2012.12.22 19:41:00 -
[50] - Quote
Spectre Wraith wrote:Guess how much I care if PLEX goes down?
Guess how much I care if PLEX goes up?
Sable's Ammo Shop at Alentene V - Moon 4 - Duvolle Laboratories Factory. Hybrid charges, Projectile ammo, Missiles, Drones, Ships, Need'em? We have'em, at affordable prices. Pop in at our Ammo Shop in sunny Alentene. |
Fractal Muse
Dead's Prostitutes
Test Friends Please Ignore
88
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Posted - 2012.12.22 19:46:00 -
[51] - Quote
PLEX are going down!
PLEX "investors" - dump your PLEX before you lose huge amounts of ISK!!
PLEX are, happily, continuing their steady price decline that began in October when they reached a high of ~650 million. I'm hoping to see them reach 500 million.
It is nice to see PLEX resellers having to adjust their PLEX prices downwards. I like seeing bunches of 30+ PLEX dropping in price. |
Myfanwy Heimdal
Heimdal Freight and Manufacture Inc
188
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Posted - 2012.12.23 19:25:00 -
[52] - Quote
Kitty Bear wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:Rain6637 wrote:you -do- realize CCP holds all they keys when it comes to market, and they use seized botter accounts (and assets) to control prices as they see fit. CCP also shot JFK, faked the moon landing and is a front for Area 51. i hear they have Elvis in the basement
I don't care about Elvis; where's Shergar? |
Rain6637
Team Evil
48
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Posted - 2012.12.23 23:15:00 -
[53] - Quote
i'm going to jita right meow to see for myself
_____________________________________
ok i'm seeing a ginormous 15mil drop from when this thread was created
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Buckingham Buckingham is my Vanilla Sky |
Xtreem
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Test Alliance Please Ignore
24
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Posted - 2012.12.23 23:19:00 -
[54] - Quote
plex will never drop too low, some very rich folk out there that would be able to stabilise it, or at worst get together with their fellow plex shufflers and prop the market, the top 5 i know about have 10's of trillions they can use to secure a stable market, although would be nice to have them about 400mil. |
Rain6637
Team Evil
48
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Posted - 2012.12.23 23:28:00 -
[55] - Quote
stop trying to make "fetch" happen. it's not going to happen
http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Buckingham Buckingham is my Vanilla Sky |
Elvis Fett
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
140
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Posted - 2012.12.24 00:16:00 -
[56] - Quote
Kitty Bear wrote:Vaal Erit wrote:Rain6637 wrote:you -do- realize CCP holds all they keys when it comes to market, and they use seized botter accounts (and assets) to control prices as they see fit. CCP also shot JFK, faked the moon landing and is a front for Area 51. i hear they have Elvis in the basement
Like hell they do. |
Jenavee De'amore
Perkone
Caldari State
23
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Posted - 2012.12.24 02:04:00 -
[57] - Quote
Sorry got little sympathy for the OP....
We all take risks/ gambles in EvE and what you're doing is no different. No one should have the right to have risk free gambles (its a sandbox as I keep being told). If the Plex goes down so what, some players gain some players lose. It's absolutely no different to telling a noob don't fly what you can't afford to lose!! (Don't gamble isk you can't afford to lose).
Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo.... |
Johan Civire
Dirty Curse inc.
463
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Posted - 2012.12.24 02:17:00 -
[58] - Quote
Gilbert Intaki wrote:Ioci wrote:A year of relentless Plex deals and they have dropped 5% so you will understand if I am a bit of a skeptic. 660 => 560 is 18%, and it's going lower.
its about time i have some plex that i buy for 350 and sell it for 660 :) iam glad i sell it  |
Just Lilly
39
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Posted - 2012.12.24 02:35:00 -
[59] - Quote
12 months subs ftw! 
Powered by Nvidia GTX 690 |
enterprisePSI
140
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Posted - 2012.12.24 05:54:00 -
[60] - Quote
Finally a thread where i can post: "OH GOD THE PLEX" 
The tears of the many, outweight the tears of the few. Or the one. enterprise-psi-¬
I made tweet, Y U NO FOLLOW!!! |
Jenavee De'amore
Perkone
Caldari State
32
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Posted - 2012.12.24 06:27:00 -
[61] - Quote
Xtreem wrote:plex will never drop too low, some very rich folk out there that would be able to stabilise it, or at worst get together with their fellow plex shufflers and prop the market, the top 5 i know about have 10's of trillions they can use to secure a stable market, although would be nice to have them about 400mil.
CCP Should encourage market crashes more often, make it a little more unpredictable from time to time. As it is in real life as it is in the game a minority control the majority of the wealth. The minority then manipulate the market to extort the average player. But unlike the way it is in real life if the mega rich in game was to lose a large amount of isk, they couldn't tax their losses onto us \o/
The worst that would happen is some mega rich eve players would probably rage quit and that'd be no great loss to CCP either as they've probably never subbed their account with RM ever!
Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo.... |
pussnheels
The Fiction Factory
805
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Posted - 2012.12.24 06:48:00 -
[62] - Quote
Rain6637 wrote:you -do- realize CCP holds all they keys when it comes to market, and they use seized botter accounts (and assets) to control prices as they see fit. Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Also: OP go resculpt your toon...I dont want anyone mistaking you for me.
omg i lawl'd
ohh please show us the proof of your CCP plex manipulating conspiracy
the whole UFO conpiracy is more convincing than what you just said
I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire |
Gibbo5771
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
77
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Posted - 2012.12.24 07:34:00 -
[63] - Quote
Spectre Wraith wrote:Guess how much I care if PLEX goes down?
Not as much as me with 6 accounts? |
Santa Spirit
Christmas Spirit and Goodwill Toward Man
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Posted - 2012.12.24 07:41:00 -
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Gibbo5771 wrote:Spectre Wraith wrote:Guess how much I care if PLEX goes down? Not as much as me with 6 accounts?
I'm right there with you on that one.
me 6 accounts, my son 1 account, we really do want to see the price fall a bit
Not a horribly stupid amount though because that would be a sign of big trouble, but down to a more reasonable level wouldn't hurt.
o/
Santa
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Gilbert Intaki
Empire Tax Revenue Service
21
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Posted - 2012.12.27 11:53:00 -
[65] - Quote
I told you this was going to happen, but you just wouldn't listen....
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CCP Phantom
C C P
C C P Alliance
2701
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Posted - 2012.12.27 12:56:00 -
[66] - Quote
Moved from General Discussion.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
2654
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Posted - 2012.12.27 13:46:00 -
[67] - Quote
Jenavee De'amore wrote:
CCP Should encourage market crashes more often, make it a little more unpredictable from time to time. As it is in real life as it is in the game a minority control the majority of the wealth. The minority then manipulate the market to extort the average player. But unlike the way it is in real life if the mega rich in game was to lose a large amount of isk, they couldn't tax their losses onto us \o/
The mega rich players are mega rich because they know how to defend their capital against these eveniences: portfolio diversification, in depth knowledge of the game, use of analysis software or... just use of brain cells.
Here's a November 5, 2012 analysis of mine.
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
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After a number of months where price stayed constrained inside a bullish channel (delimited by the red trend lines), a bearish monthly pin bar (PB) has formed. Monthly bars are very powerful and can easily turn the tables...
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:
The weekly chart is concordant with the monthly. In this case we have another (weekly this time) bearish pin bar. This time the bar is quite bigger than the others before it, this means a minor inversion is taking place
So, nothing new or unmanageable under the sun.
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Sizeof Void
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
320
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Posted - 2012.12.27 22:47:00 -
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I'd expect at least one more near-term PLEX sale from CCP, to celebrate the New Year. This would make sense, given that many players receive cash gifts/bonuses for X-mas and New Year's, from family and/or employers, and are looking to spend it on something nice for themselves.
This should cause PLEX prices to drop again, as they did during the X-mas sale. During the X-mas sale, prices did drop well below 550 - I picked up three PLEX myself for around 510 on the 24th.
However, it does seem that PLEX speculators are indeed working hard to keep prices up, though. Putting up a buy order for 10-20 PLEX at 540-550 when the next highest buy order in the region is 520-525 is rather indicative of atttempted market manipulation. |
Dave stark
1126
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Posted - 2012.12.28 00:29:00 -
[69] - Quote
Sizeof Void wrote:I'd expect at least one more near-term PLEX sale from CCP, to celebrate the New Year. This would make sense, given that many players receive cash gifts/bonuses for X-mas and New Year's, from family and/or employers, and are looking to spend it on something nice for themselves.
This should cause PLEX prices to drop again, as they did during the X-mas sale. During the X-mas sale, prices did drop well below 550 - I picked up three PLEX myself for around 510 on the 24th.
However, it does seem that PLEX speculators are indeed working hard to keep prices up, though. Putting up a buy order for 10-20 PLEX at 540-550 when the next highest buy order in the region is 520-525 is rather indicative of atttempted market manipulation.
can you blame them? a fair few people have a bundle of plex they purchased at ~580m or so that they'd like to get a profit on.. or at least, minimise their losses.
"100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |
Kara Books
Deal with IT.
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Posted - 2012.12.28 01:51:00 -
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Maybe this is somehow connected to the secret stealth nerf to invention chances.
I ponder. |
Fractal Muse
Dead's Prostitutes
Test Friends Please Ignore
135
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Posted - 2012.12.28 02:28:00 -
[71] - Quote
Dave stark wrote:Sizeof Void wrote:
This should cause PLEX prices to drop again, as they did during the X-mas sale. During the X-mas sale, prices did drop well below 550 - I picked up three PLEX myself for around 510 on the 24th.
However, it does seem that PLEX speculators are indeed working hard to keep prices up, though. Putting up a buy order for 10-20 PLEX at 540-550 when the next highest buy order in the region is 520-525 is rather indicative of atttempted market manipulation.
can you blame them? a fair few people have a bundle of plex they purchased at ~580m or so that they'd like to get a profit on.. or at least, minimise their losses.
I agree with your assessment, at this point that is exactly what they are trying to do: minimize their losses by trying everything they can to re-inflate PLEX prices.
The timecode bazaar is following the downwards swing of game time pricing as well. Timecodes are starting to pop up under the 1 billion ISK mark (950 million) per 60 day timecode.
I think PLEXes will continue to drop downwards to 500 million and stabilize there for at least awhile.
It is fun to watch the PLEX resellers trying (and failing) to stop the downward trend of the market. |
Sir SmashAlot
The League of Extraordinary Opportunists
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
1
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Posted - 2012.12.28 02:42:00 -
[72] - Quote
With the Rat AI changes I suspect less people are able to afk drone boat mission their way to a plex every month.
To speculate a little more I suspect that the isk generated from lvl 4 missions also took a dive so in turn lowering the amount of available isk that would normally be available to support the plex market. Being that plex is very sensitive to the amount if isk in the system, other areas of EVE should start experiencing some deflation if the trend continues.
Sell... Waffles! |
Celeste Taylor
Ruby Dynasty
122
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Posted - 2012.12.28 08:59:00 -
[73] - Quote
I hate piling up on ISK and try to slush my money into PLEX when possible although it has been a few months since, due to 600m+ PLEX prices. Today I finally started buying PLEX since the prices are getting affordable once again.
I feel as though there is a stronger cash equivalent to PLEX compared to ISK. ISK prices will fluctuate relative to both PLEX and USD, but I don't see the $ cost for PLEX changing too much beyond these random sales. I suppose my point is even if the PLEX market "crashes" I won't feel completely devastated since my PLEX collection is still worth X number of months of game time. There would be a minor "I should have waited to buy" sentiment, but the trade off is "now I can buy what is out there." On the other hand if ISK inflation were to go rampant having a ton of worthless ISK would hurt, so I personally prefer to invest in PLEX. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
2936
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Posted - 2012.12.28 11:31:00 -
[74] - Quote
Celeste Taylor wrote:I hate piling up on ISK and try to slush my money into PLEX when possible although it has been a few months since, due to 600m+ PLEX prices. Today I finally started buying PLEX since the prices are getting affordable once again.
I feel as though there is a stronger cash equivalent to PLEX compared to ISK. ISK prices will fluctuate relative to both PLEX and USD, but I don't see the $ cost for PLEX changing too much beyond these random sales. I suppose my point is even if the PLEX market "crashes" I won't feel completely devastated since my PLEX collection is still worth X number of months of game time. There would be a minor "I should have waited to buy" sentiment, but the trade off is "now I can buy what is out there." On the other hand if ISK inflation were to go rampant having a ton of worthless ISK would hurt, so I personally prefer to invest in PLEX.
You could give a read to this thread, it might inspire you into trying additional "network value safeguard" items beyond PLEXes.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
2936
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Posted - 2012.12.28 11:33:00 -
[75] - Quote
Dave stark wrote:
can you blame them? a fair few people have a bundle of plex they purchased at ~580m or so that they'd like to get a profit on.. or at least, minimise their losses.
Not blame them, but they are going to hurt themselves even more.
They are doing what in various terminologies may be called: "counter trend, invalidated pin bar", "buying into a falling knife", "buying on a dead cat bounce". If they have just a couple of PLEXes on hand they might be able to slip them in before the market crushes them, but if they have a bunch, good luck pretending to fight against a liquid market.
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Callduron
152
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:44:00 -
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Sanandrea wrote:GreenSeed wrote:who cares? i mean, who is affected by this? do we care? People with large PLEX stockpile are affected.
No not really. The plex market is like the housing market. If your house was valued at -ú300,000 in 2007 and now the estate agent tells you you'll only get -ú200,000 for it you simply wait.
Same with plex. Someone with 100+ plex will just wait the dip out. Long term plex will always tend up because it's tied to player isk/hour and that goes up as average account age rises and as players perfect isk-making techniques and disseminate them. |
Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
3529
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:16:00 -
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Callduron wrote:Sanandrea wrote:GreenSeed wrote:who cares? i mean, who is affected by this? do we care? People with large PLEX stockpile are affected. No not really. The plex market is like the housing market. If your house was valued at -ú300,000 in 2007 and now the estate agent tells you you'll only get -ú200,000 for it you simply wait.
"Simply wait" has a cost in tied capital, missed opportunities, missed interests though.
Also, about houses, it's entirely possible a deep market shift that will depress the housing market for so many years that the house will depreciate to -ú200,000 even after the market recovered.
In my country some studies determined that we'll have to wait 10+ years for the market to rise again. 10 years are a lot for a 60 old house holder or for a fairly intact house to become wrecked.
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Cardval Simalia
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2012.12.28 23:41:00 -
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Naw, Plex will sky rocket this year as soon as Star Citizen goes Beta then no one will be buying PLEX. Of course all your investments will surely pay off, sadly 3 days before the electricity company cuts off the CCP server and HQ for not paying the bills. |
Fractal Muse
Dead's Prostitutes
Test Friends Please Ignore
150
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Posted - 2012.12.29 17:48:00 -
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Cardval Simalia wrote:Naw, Plex will sky rocket this year as soon as Star Citizen goes Beta then no one will be buying PLEX. Of course all your investments will surely pay off, sadly 3 days before the electricity company cuts off the CCP server and HQ for not paying the bills.
There are a couple of things wrong with your post.
First, if no one is buying PLEX, then the price of PLEX would drop. Unless you mean for real currency. If you did, you need to work on your clarity since this discussion is about in game market for PLEX.
Second, Star Citizen is NOT an MMO so it won't be competing directly with EVE Online. I imagine a lot of players who play EVE Online will give Star Citizen a go, I know I will, but they probably won't be unsubscribing from EVE (I know I won't).
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mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
39
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Posted - 2012.12.29 18:01:00 -
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Man, look at all that Christmas money flowing into the market. 
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Sizeof Void
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
322
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Posted - 2012.12.29 22:24:00 -
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mynnna wrote:Man, look at all that Christmas money flowing into the market.
And, don't forget that in many countries, such as Russia and Japan, it is traditional to give gifts - incl. cash - to celebrate the New Year, rather than X-mas. I'd expect some of this money to trickle into EVE, as well. |
Fractal Muse
Dead's Prostitutes
Test Friends Please Ignore
159
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Posted - 2012.12.30 15:02:00 -
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Sizeof Void wrote:mynnna wrote:Man, look at all that Christmas money flowing into the market. And, don't forget that in many countries, such as Russia and Japan, it is traditional to give gifts - incl. cash - to celebrate the New Year, rather than X-mas. I'd expect some of this money to trickle into EVE, as well.
Which is great since PLEX prices are commonly going for below 550 million now!
I've seen them drop to as low as 500 million.
I don't think it'll be much longer before you there will be a lot of PLEX on the market for around 500 million. |
Singulaer
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.30 20:41:00 -
[83] - Quote
Fractal Muse wrote:[quote=Sizeof Void][quote=mynnna]I don't think it'll be much longer before you there will be a lot of PLEX on the market for around 500 million.
Hmm...
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Singulaer
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.12.30 20:42:00 -
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Singulaer wrote:Fractal Muse wrote:[quote=Sizeof Void]I don't think it'll be much longer before you there will be a lot of PLEX on the market for around 500 million. Hmm...
"Do not attempt to live without vanity, since this is impossible, but choose the right audience from which to seek admiration." - Bertrand Russell |
DarthNefarius
Minmatar Heavy Industries
534
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Posted - 2012.12.31 01:47:00 -
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I'm curious if the introduction of Dust will drop the PLEX prices when the bunnies start puting themon the market for ISK for battle suits. 
Ironic-áfact: In the future the pirates and PVPers will likely have no bounties on them, while the risk averse carebears will run around with "wanted" marked across their face. |
Kata Dakini
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2012.12.31 11:22:00 -
[86] - Quote
Kara Books wrote:Maybe this is somehow connected to the secret stealth nerf to invention chances.
I ponder.
Probably something to do with datacores and FW, right?
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Gilbert Intaki
Empire Tax Revenue Service
32
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Posted - 2012.12.31 11:27:00 -
[87] - Quote
More downside to come. Keep selling. |
Khador Vess
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
39
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Posted - 2013.01.01 11:19:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:
More downside to come. Keep selling.
lol... when does power of two end again? |
Gilbert Intaki
Empire Tax Revenue Service
33
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Posted - 2013.01.01 14:31:00 -
[89] - Quote
Khador Vess wrote:Gilbert Intaki wrote:
More downside to come. Keep selling.
lol... just lol
You go ahead and "lol" all you like, you little teenager.
I was right all along... |
Khador Vess
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
39
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Posted - 2013.01.02 00:34:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:Khador Vess wrote:Gilbert Intaki wrote:
More downside to come. Keep selling.
lol... just lol You go ahead and "lol" all you like, you little teenager. I was right all along...
Probably old enough to be your dad.... but whatever... keep pushing the panic button hoping morons will panic sell for you to profit on later...
Thank you for your in depth analysis of the market and its trends im sure that we will all profit from such forward thinking and great insight... how ever did the markets work before you graced us with your opinion....
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Prisoner No14
The Random Tangent
13
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Posted - 2013.01.09 00:46:00 -
[91] - Quote
i hope it takes a dive long enough for me to plex out my accounts even though i have 6 months already plexed out on each. |
Daniel Plain
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
739
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Posted - 2013.01.09 17:59:00 -
[92] - Quote
i hereby predict that this thread caused exactly two people to sell their PLEX stockpiles.
"I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF |
Minqallieu
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.01.10 05:47:00 -
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Gilbert Intaki wrote:Ioci wrote:A year of relentless Plex deals and they have dropped 5% so you will understand if I am a bit of a skeptic. 660 => 560 is 18%, and it's going lower.
660 to 560 is a 15% drop. Try it the other way around...
660 experiences a 15% drop. What is the current price? |
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