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Elrich Kouvo Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.12.23 02:57:00 - [1] - Quote So EVE Online has always been referred to being harsh on its players compared to other MMOs. Some players claim that they enjoy the harshness of the game, but it could stand to be even harsher. I wonder if "harshness" is the appeal of EVE Online? In 2004 I joined EVE online after seeing their graphics posted on a 3d software companies web site. When I heard about the market, I was hooked. I never read about how "harsh" the game was(Of course I sure found out). So do you find EVE online harsh? Do you like harsh? And what brought you to EVE Online if it wasn't the harshness?
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4695	Posted - 2012.12.23 02:59:00 - [2] - Quote We like the HTFU attitude CCP used to have with regard to whining "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Johan Civire Dirty Curse inc. 247	Posted - 2012.12.23 03:01:00 - [3] - Quote i pick up some popcorn and some coke. Now here we go....
Elrich Kouvo Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.12.23 03:01:00 - [4] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: We like the HTFU attitude CCP used to have Fixed

ISD Cyberdyne ISD Community Communications Liaisons 376	Posted - 2012.12.23 03:12:00 - [5] - Quote I would say that the 'harshness' of the game is definitely something I admire about EVE Online, but I'd venture the diverse directions of gameplay (high, low, null, wormholes), professions (mission runner, pirate, bounty hunter, spy, solder, trader, tycoon, leader, frontiersman) , and player interactions are what drew me in and keep me enthralled in EVE. ISD Cyberdyne Ensign Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

Elrich Kouvo Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.12.23 03:16:00 - [6] - Quote Ah professions! Yes that is something else that was outstanding especially CEO/Corp relations. I was feeling very "enterprising" when I discovered EVE.
Jenavee De'amore Perkone Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.12.23 03:19:00 - [7] - Quote I accidently stumbled upon EvE in 2007 after I bought a used laptop for my GF and it was pre-installed by the last owner. I was curious enough to see what EvE was all about so I created an account and logged in. The rest is history. EvE can be a harsh mistress, how it stacks up against other MMO's I'm not sure (I've never played any other MMO). EvE online is still alive after all these years and extremely active so I guess the harsh enviroment to safe enviroment ratio is in good balance at the moment. If it was too harsh too many young players would be dis-couraged. Jena o/ Try to look unimportant; they may be low on ammo....
Atticus Lowa Lowa Corp Industries and Security 15	Posted - 2012.12.23 03:38:00 - [8] - Quote granted i haven't played too much... But Eve can be QUITE harsh, and most (if not all, those that don't are not relevant ) of us appreciate that. I dunno i play wow aside from this too, if want a little hand-holding i play that. if i want an actual sandbox (for an MMO anyways), i play this. Actually like an idiot i wandering into a Wormhole unprepared... it wasn't pleasant, but i learned that lesson, still want to do WHs sometime.
Elrich Kouvo Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.12.23 03:49:00 - [9] - Quote Atticus Lowa wrote: granted i haven't played too much... But Eve can be QUITE harsh, and most (if not all, those that don't are not relevant ) of us appreciate that. I dunno i play wow aside from this too, if want a little hand-holding i play that. if i want an actual sandbox (for an MMO anyways), i play this. Actually like an idiot i wandering into a Wormhole unprepared... it wasn't pleasant, but i learned that lesson, still want to do WHs sometime. So what brought you to EVE Online?
Malles Istveruckt Debaser Monde 4	Posted - 2012.12.23 03:55:00 - [10] - Quote Getting assploded during the tutorials. WTF?! OK. I am hooked.
Sentamon 394	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:00:00 - [11] - Quote Harsh is playing others games where you're forced to be friends with everyone and nothing has meaning. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Alara IonStorm 3907	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:03:00 - [12] - Quote Harsh... hmm. I look at it as only being as harsh as the chess pieces you put on the board. Space is the board, public hangers are the board and access is the board. There are too many nooks and crannies to hide in to be completely taken out of the game and as long as you have money and assets then you can't be knocked out. Your sandcastle is only vulnerable if it is on the public beach so as long as I can pack up my pale and bucket. I wouldn't call it harsh unless you make it harsh.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4696	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:09:00 - [13] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Harsh... hmm. I look at it as only being as harsh as the chess pieces you put on the board. Space is the board, public hangers are the board and access is the board. There are too many nooks and crannies to hide in to be completely taken out of the game and as long as you have money and assets then you can't be knocked out. Your sandcastle is only vulnerable if it is on the public beach so as long as I can pack up my pale and bucket. I wouldn't call it harsh unless you make it harsh. I don't understand what you're saying... you want to play chess with me? "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Alara IonStorm 3907	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:13:00 - [14] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: I don't understand what you're saying... you want to play chess with me? Sure but I would probably lose. What I am saying is sure it EVE you can lose your 5 billion ISK Battleship which some might characterize as harsh but only if you risk your 5 billion ISK Battleship and it is only harsh if you don't have the currency to replace it. It is like a game of chess where everyone plays on the same board but you decide what pieces to put on the field. If a Queen is valuable don't buy a Queen use a Bishop instead.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4698	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:16:00 - [15] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: I don't understand what you're saying... you want to play chess with me? Sure but I would probably lose. What I am saying is sure it EVE you can lose your 5 billion ISK Battleship which some might characterize as harsh but only if you risk your 5 billion ISK Battleship and it is only harsh if you don't have the currency to replace it. It is like a game of chess where everyone plays on the same board but you decide what pieces to put on the field. If a Queen is valuable don't buy a Queen use a Bishop instead. well why didn't you just say that? "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Alara IonStorm 3907	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:19:00 - [16] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: well why didn't you just say that? Artist interpretation of my brain. If I trip over a thought I might not recover for hours.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4698	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:23:00 - [17] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: well why didn't you just say that? Artist interpretation of my brain. If I trip over a thought I might not recover for hours. removes the skateboard off the 3rd step "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Alara IonStorm 3907	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:24:00 - [18] - Quote GÖ£GÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGÖÿGÖùGÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû Your move Surfin
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4699	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:27:00 - [19] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: GÖ£GÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGÖÿGÖùGÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû Your move Surfin Queen's knight to bishop 3 *Edit: My prediction for this match "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Alara IonStorm 3907	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:30:00 - [20] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: GÖ£GÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû Queen's knight to bishop 3 GÖ£GÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4699	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:34:00 - [21] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: GÖ£GÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû GÖ£GÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GÖÖGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGûóGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû Your squares aren't matching up so I had to think about where they went "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Ayn Randy the unified Negative Ten. 26	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:35:00 - [22] - Quote I was drawn in by the huge player vs player battles and the impact they had on the persistent universe. I think what kept me here was knowing how little effect i had has on those battles and that i am always striving to make an impact on the universe myself!!
Alara IonStorm 3907	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:36:00 - [23] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: GÖ£GÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GÖÖGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGûóGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû Your squares aren't matching up so I had to think about where they went GûóGÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GÖ£Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GÖÖGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGûóGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGûóGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4699	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:36:00 - [24] - Quote Ayn Randy wrote: I was drawn in by the huge player vs player battles and the impact they had on the persistent universe. I think what kept me here was knowing how little effect i had has on those battles and that i am always striving to make an impact on the universe myself!! Quiet you, I'm about to crush Alara in a battle of wits "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4699	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:38:00 - [25] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: GûóGÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GÖ£Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GÖÖGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGûóGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû GûóGÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GÖ£Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGÖÖGûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGûóGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Elrich Kouvo Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 20	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:39:00 - [26] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: GÖ£GÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GÖÖGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGûóGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû Your squares aren't matching up so I had to think about where they went GûóGÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GÖ£Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GÖÖGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGûóGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGûóGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû Hey! Take the chess game somewhere else!
Santa Spirit Christmas Spirit and Goodwill Toward Man 63	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:40:00 - [27] - Quote I used to Play Navyfield one of my friends in game told me that I had to come play EvE with him, it had spaceships, and rats and ** blew up and I could be anything i wanted to be. he told me something that peaked my interest because i couldn't always play navyfield due to work and stuff, he told me: "dude, if you want to fly a destroyer they have a book you learn to be able to fly it, but here's the best part... you put that book in this thing called a training queue and even if you can't play for 2 days, when you come back you can fly that ship" (almost verbatim) The thing is that in NF like almost every other game, you have to be at the helm of your ship to gain XP and if you can't play for a couple of days, you stagnate waiting to get back in and grind for that much needed XP to get to the next tier ship. I had turned down invitations to play EvE previously from a couple of my friends, but no one ever told me that i could work toward a goal when not even logged in and actively "doing something". So i tried it and sure enough, I could get ahead thanks to the training queue and even better, I found out that in EvE you don't plan for the next battle only, you don't work for just what you're going to be doing until you log off that day, in EvE, you work for goals that won't be realized for months down the road, or in some cases even years, you have to think, calculate, plan, be disciplined in your training and focus and along the way?, you have fun, make money, blow ** up, run from the faction Navies, suck up to the faction Navies and whole host of other things that culminate into the EvE experience... so yeah, I tried EvE and on my first day i was in a system called Dammalin and my friend said "lookie Bill" and flew up to me in a Dramiel, I saw that ship, instantly fell in love with that ships's looks and beauty and the rest (for my main) is history... o/ Santa -áOn Occasion, I must apologize for the things I say because they sometimes make me sound as though I have a clue. -áPlease feel free to visit my Thread and join in on the fun Dec 24th. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=183205
Alara IonStorm 3907	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:41:00 - [28] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: GûóGÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GÖ£Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖPGûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGÖÖGûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬ Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGûóGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû GûóGÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GÖ£Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGÖÖGûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖP Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGûóGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGûóGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 4699	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:42:00 - [29] - Quote Alara IonStorm wrote: GûóGÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GÖ£Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGÖÖGûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖP Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬Gûó GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGûóGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGûóGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû GûóGÖPGÖ¥GÖ¢GÖÜGÖ¥GûóGÖ£ Gû¬GÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒGÖƒ GÖ£Gû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬ GÖƒGûóGû¬GûóGÖÖGûóGû¬Gûó GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖP Gû¬GûóGÖÿGûóGû¬GûóGû¬GûóGÖÖ GÖÖGÖÖGÖÖGûóGÖÖGÖÖGÖÖ GÖûGûóGû¬GÖòGÖöGÖùGÖÿGÖû "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Torakenat Space Cowboys United The Irukandji 2	Posted - 2012.12.23 04:44:00 - [30] - Quote it's only harsh if you invest everything you have on that one shiny ship/bpo XD It's best to have a fleet of not so awesome ships/bpo's than to lose everything you have in that one splatacular ship/bpo

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