Step 1: Buy a Talos
Step 2: Make her open the Talos
Step 3: Blap

Anyone got a kill they can link so we can see the fit?

Good question Siigari. I am using my Venture mostly in HiSec as I am new and trying out all sorts of things in EVE. But here is a rough estimate on what I can pull down in HiSec with only Rats and fellow miners as a concern:

Using 2 Mining Laser II at a rate of 190m3/minute it takes 14 cycles (7 per laser) to fill the Ore Hold. Add the occasional break for changing asteroids and interruptions for rats and I find that it takes roughly 30 to 45 minutes to make 1 "run" to fill my Venture, depending greatly on whether it's Veldspar at .1 volume or Plagioclase at .35 volume. Lately, I have been bringing in between 700k - 900k ISK depending on the price regardless of the ore type. Of course you have to add total time out and back as well, so maybe 750K per hour on the low side? Do we include just the time needed to mine or the whole process?

As far as LowSec goes- pure conjecture as I have only done it once in a Catalyst and got my *** handed to me. But going through the exercise- I would think a healthy increase of around 25-50% in time required by a Venture pilot just playing the avoidance game. After all, the point of being in LowSec is moot if you can't manage to get back out again and reap the rewards. That means fitting a cloak and some of the other avoidance gear peeps have mentioned above.

Second, the ores are a bit bigger volume-wise (Kernite 1.2, Jaspet 2, Hemorphite/Hedergite 3), so there is a reduction in time required to fill that 5000m3 ore hold in LowSec, but whether it will be worth it? Something tells me that practical experience would show that the risk in LowSec ends up being a bit too much compared to HiSec- considering your Venture and gear along with your implants is much more likely to end up as space pixels.

Then again, maybe my math is all wrong! I always did stink at math...

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Smartbombing battleship on gate

I like that miners in lowsec are running gatecamps. This is exactly what many have been trying to realize for YEARS.

Think about it. Miners with the testicular fortitude to cross a lowsec gate, brave a camp, and SUCCEED... all so they can chew some rocks in an open PvP area. (without making too much in profits for the effort) Isn't this exactly what we've all wanted?

It's not a stationary AFK hulk or mack in highsec. It's someone going up against your gatecamp and SURVIVING because they have the tools to do so with a reasonable chance. There are counters to catch these slippery things, but you have to plan for it. This is a hallmark of excellent balancing.

I love them, and I only build and sell them. And boy do they sell.


For a lot!
Miners are crazy.

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Simple really, nano dram with +4 point of scram, all caught in belts.

And none of them had a cloak fitted. What if they did?

I like that miners in lowsec are running gatecamps. This is exactly what many have been trying to realize for YEARS.

Think about it. Miners with the testicular fortitude to cross a lowsec gate, brave a camp, and SUCCEED... all so they can chew some rocks in an open PvP area. (without making too much in profits for the effort) Isn't this exactly what we've all wanted?

It's not a stationary AFK hulk or mack in highsec. It's someone going up against your gatecamp and SURVIVING because they have the tools to do so with a reasonable chance. There are counters to catch these slippery things, but you have to plan for it. This is a hallmark of excellent balancing.

Step 1: Buy a Talos
Step 2: Make her open the Talos
Step 3: Blap

Some days, I fly all 4 of my accounts into lowsec in cloaky stabbed mwd ventures. I dont mine anything, I just go from system to system, and laugh at the locals. Then I link some bpos or other treats in local, and tell the locals that I'm hauling them through. It gets them really excited. Then I just cloak up for a while.

So many tears.

Especially considering you get one for free from the industry career mission, second mission in the chain.

These things are all over low now!

Nippy little b3ggers.

WhatGÇÖs your preferred technique for swatting them at gates and catching them in belts before they do one?

Nor did they have a warp core stabiliser either.

Venture is such a lovely ship!

I adore exploring and harvesting gas is lowsec and all the chasing with pirates just make it fun way of making some ISK. Today was really interesting -- my Venture was chased by nothing else but an Adrestia!

(In the same system was also a Vangel)

I am not a fan of rude talk in local, but asking the owner does he intend to harvest gas in Adrestia was priceless moment. :)

If I understand correctly, if you are aware of local and use d-scan properly, only a ship with cloaked warping ability might hurt you in Venture? And if you have additional WCS in Low, only stealth bomber is to be afraid of, right?

EDIT: Or a CovOp with more than one scram...

That being said, a venture is hardly a worthy target.. unless they are mining gas.

How do those Ventures deal with belt rats. Two light drones seem hardly a match against a few BCs.

- AFAIK gas clouds do damage to ships.
- not sure if clouds in WH are protected by sleepers or not.
How can Venture defend itself?