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Grimpak
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Posted - 2012.12.27 08:56:00 -
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EI Digin wrote:RAGE QU1T wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:Some Rando wrote:Peter Raptor wrote:If CCP nerfs hisec, what have the hisec dwellers/industrialists got left A lot of other space to do business in. High-sec should be left to new players and the little coddled children who can't handle conflict in a PvP game. As I said elsewhere , many people play EVE to relax, manufacture stuff, hang out with friends, not to have an FC yelling at them for allegedly making the team lose a PVP match. If forced to PVP, many would rather leave. Confirming, no one likes EMO raging FC's spamming alliance crying for more Logi's, furthermore people are tired of CTA online So don't join an alliance that demands you to play on their terms? and get blobbed by everyone and their dog, of live a clandestine life of trying to get something out of null and give up because hisec is easier.
thing is, every alliance, not only in null btw, demands you to play with their terms. difference is, some do it so well that you won't even notice.
let's be honest here. the reason why nullsec sucks is because there isn't enough good space for everybody. you put a 500-man alliance there, you either bend over or you get smashed by alliances 3-5 times your size.
so you need more people, more people means that you need more iskies to make them stay, and a whole region can't sustain 500 people at the same time. try to have 7 people ratting in a single nullsec, doing anoms and whatever and tell me how much isk per each person you get.
grunts look at hisec and see it easier there and they either go there or whine because it's "better".
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2012.12.27 09:01:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grimpak wrote:and get blobbed by everyone and their dog, of live a clandestine life of trying to get something out of null and give up because hisec is easier.
thing is, every alliance, not only in null btw, demands you to play with their terms. difference is, some do it so well that you won't even notice.
Been in every alliance, have you?
I don't know. have I? I'm just a grunt. been playing this game for over 9 years and people keep complaining about the very same issue since 2003, but hey. I'm just a grunt.
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2012.12.27 09:02:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Yes, you didn't notice, clearly.
How can anyone argue against this: "I'm right, you just don't know it".
if I was right, I would say so.
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
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Grimpak
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Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.27 09:08:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grimpak wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grimpak wrote:and get blobbed by everyone and their dog, of live a clandestine life of trying to get something out of null and give up because hisec is easier.
thing is, every alliance, not only in null btw, demands you to play with their terms. difference is, some do it so well that you won't even notice.
Been in every alliance, have you? I don't know. have I? I'm just a grunt. been playing this game for over 9 years and people keep complaining about the very same issue since 2003, but hey. I'm just a grunt. Well as you demonstrated here that doesn't mean you know what you're talking about.
of course I don't. I'm captain Obviously Contradicting Walking-pants! nice to meet you.
but I'll do you a favor.
here's how things evolved:
back in 2003 people in nullsec demanded infrastructure, saying hisec was better so CCP gave them conquerables. That wasn't enough, so it came Exodus and POS'es! Yay finally I can setup my starbase! But that still wasn't enough, so let's get tools to remove them! Tadaa! dreadnaughts! Dreadnaughts are too powerful! We want moar caps! Here have some carriers! oh and outposts too and the ability to claim sovereignty! But that's not enough, let's give you motherships and titans! and a superweapon too! But logistics are hard! Okay have some jumpgates!
then clusterfucks happened and CCP started nerfing these things down.
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.27 09:14:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grimpak wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Grimpak wrote:and get blobbed by everyone and their dog, of live a clandestine life of trying to get something out of null and give up because hisec is easier.
thing is, every alliance, not only in null btw, demands you to play with their terms. difference is, some do it so well that you won't even notice.
Been in every alliance, have you? I don't know. have I? I'm just a grunt. been playing this game for over 9 years and people keep complaining about the very same issue since 2003, but hey. I'm just a grunt. Well as you demonstrated here that doesn't mean you know what you're talking about. He doesn't know what he's talking about, he won't even notice.
but yes, I don't know what I'm talking about. I never did! I'm Grimpak! all I hear is voices telling me what to do!
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
ain't that right |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.27 09:21:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Mackinaws, the endgame of EVE Online, as cold as the ice and as harsh as local chat.
and feels good brah.
veldspar fumes make you go higher than spiked quafe.
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
ain't that right |
Grimpak
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.27 09:22:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:EVE isn't a sandbox. Buff exotic dancers to give lapdances.
now THAT is something I can get behind.
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
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Grimpak
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Echelon Rising
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:22:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Luanda Heartbreaker wrote:u are a moron my dear friend. if highsec is so TOO GOOD, why you dont go there? pff. u just dont know what are ya talkin about... Did you miss where we said, in multiple threads, multiple times, that this has already happened for quite a few nullseccers? Many of them maintain highsec alts just so they can make isk or do industry there. Highsec is the way of the future. Surrender to CONCORD or face the consequences. HTFU and go back to highsec. Adapt to highsec.
well, I prefer CONCORD overlords to goon overlords.
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
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Grimpak
Midnight Elites
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Posted - 2012.12.27 10:43:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Malcanis wrote:destiny2 wrote:If their going to nerf anything nerf null get rid of the tech moons, make it so people actually have to work for their isk How much "work" did hi-sec players put in to get all those invulnerable stations which they can't be locked out of? You don't get to complain about tech moons in null until stations in hi-sec cost you 20 bill a pop. If only our 20bil a pop stations were totally invulnerable like their free ones which they get multiple of in some systems. lol typical entitled nullseccer
well, let's get honest here: everybody's a typical self-entitled whatever-fancies-you
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
ain't that right |
Grimpak
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Posted - 2012.12.27 13:02:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Malcanis wrote:Yep I agree about W-space being even worse than sov 0.0, but I didn't want to complicate the issue by discussing which of the 2 starving dogs fighting for scraps from the fat man's table was the skinniest  Well W-space IS the frontier that wasn't meant to have large industrial capability. What it does have is the best PVE you can get anywhere, plus relative isolation and safety afforded by various mechanics and balanced only because there's no local. I don't hear w-space residents clamoring for changes, I'm fairly sure they like it the way it is for the most part. I'm fairly sure that they'd like to be able to build their own T3s (as well as refit them) but maybe you're right, I don't know. Again, watch out for the ontology fallacy; it might just be that people who like to build stuff more complex than ammo simply completely avoid W-space. Therefore there are no people in W-space who like to build stuff. But that doesn't preclude the possibility that there are people who would like to be able to live self-sufficiently in W-space.
don't forget that they can only refine 75% at most of what they can mine, which is like... well... not that much.
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2012.12.27 14:20:00 -
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Frying Doom wrote:There is crap loads to mine in wormholes that you then have to compress and take to Hi-sec to use for manufacturing as well as the need for Hi-sec alts so you can mine the Hi-sec ores as moving huge volumes out of a WH is depressing at best.
is there really? ask a wormholler how much they mine.
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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote]
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