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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.03 21:35:00 -
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 Originally by: ElCapitan
30 min log off timer is a horrible horrible idea. sometimes emergency comes up and you have to log off and do real life stuff, people should not be penalized for that (It happened to me many times, sometimes right before or after a fight).
What would be cool if some sort of logoff protection/safespot busting system could be implemented through system sovereignty (sp?). Something like scan probe arrays for POSes or something.
Good point, And a very nice Ide,,
My point is that someting needs to be done becouse i wanna play this game =)
Perhaps we got spoiled getting killed once a day by u guys, and now, well....
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.06.03 21:42:00 -
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ok, next time we send a blob to 9cg and you cant engage... if we are there for 36 hours will you promise to be online the entire time we are there?
no, didnt think so.
quit whining and adapt
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.06.03 21:44:00 -
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Hi Hast, you are pretty bright.
How do you adapt to people that log off when their ships are scrambled to save them? Who log when anything that even remotly looks like it could kill them attacks? Hmm? Do we log off and try to chase them through their browser????
Get the point what the thread is about yet?
And since when hasn¦t we been able to offer Shinra a spanking? pls....
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.06.03 21:50:00 -
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If i couldnt move an inch , i would call it a night as well .
On top of that sometimes i am ( we are ) deep in enemies space and decide to log off there to call it a night , movin back home can take quite som etime if yer being blobbed and there is always or often a job or school and what not for others waiting for them teh next morning .
Nothin wrong with that imo and as for : but they have a few more or less then us and still log .....its a never ending discussion ....
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.06.03 21:52:00 -
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If you are blobbed, nothing much you can do but log.
However, you can ask for an even fight with the leader of the corp.
They very well might say no, its there loss and the side logging off would not be doing anything criminal.
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.06.03 21:53:00 -
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Please understand we know that if you have 2 BS in a system, with 10 enemy bs there, then ofc, we do not expect you to engage us, that¦s not what we complain about.
It¦s the situations where 2 BS log from 3, or 4 BS log from 2 etc etc. Not always outnumbered mind you.
Maybe we just got spoiled with true PvPers back when bob were red, I dunno...
Regards
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.06.03 21:55:00 -
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i fight you on my alts bold has never left fat since start of the war
may i please remind you all
fix started it. its there fault there crying not mass's
anyone for a cup of tea?
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.06.03 21:57:00 -
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Originally by: Boldyn
Please understand we know that if you have 2 BS in a system, with 10 enemy bs there, then ofc, we do not expect you to engage us, that¦s not what we complain about.
err yes it is.
and we had 5 bs in h74 when nez was crying about mass loging off
whats this 20 enemys in local and not one shown themselfs? and we wernt even sitting on a safe
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Deliciae
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Posted - 2005.06.03 22:00:00 -
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Edited by: Deliciae on 03/06/2005 22:01:40
There is a SEVERE difference between logging at a safespot and logging IN COMBAT. It's understandable that you might have to quit the game obviously, but not while you're in the middle of being shot at.
Stay and fight or flee properly. Logging off in-combat (for any reason other than a LEGITIMATE disconnection/CTD) is pathetic.  |
Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.06.03 22:02:00 -
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You are mentioning 1 time thebold.... I clearly said I understand not engaging with those numbers.
And I know you are a true fighter..so please, rub some of that spirit onto your m8s 
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.06.03 22:02:00 -
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Edited by: Joshua Calvert on 03/06/2005 22:02:37
I'm not gonna sit at a SS for hours while camped against impossible odds just to satisfy someones code of honour.
I'll just log off.
Seems to make sense.
After all, making an enemy log-off is the next best solution to killing his ship.
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2005.06.03 22:10:00 -
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Yes... this will do just fine, I'll just camp this spot right here if you don't mind.
Carry on please 
Allways move fast, you never know who's catching up!
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.06.03 22:15:00 -
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You know what? I honestly cba to care. I was hoping this little capmaign would offer us some more good fights. Funny how things don¦t work out as you plan ey?
Continue doing whatever it is your doing. It doesn¦t harm what we set out to do in any way at all.
So, forgive my rude assaults, I was a fool for wasting my breath even.
Hopefully someone comes along, waves a magic wand, and locks this thread.
Regards
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.03 22:28:00 -
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thrue boldyn..
Just a question, what cs:s server are u guys playing at? i wanna do something aswhell
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heavyg
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Posted - 2005.06.03 22:31:00 -
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Edited by: heavyg on 03/06/2005 22:31:12
Gents,
You want us out of FAT? So do it allready.
You want us all Dead? So do it allready?
You want us to get bored and just leave for you? Get real.
If we have 3 miners in the system you log in and gank, and according to you thats fair.
BUT
As soon as we send COMBAT forces to deal with you, WHOA, now we are blobbing.
/me sighs
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.06.03 23:00:00 -
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Dont know how to adapt boldyn? Then your already doomed..
Originally by: Boldyn
Continue doing whatever it is your doing. It doesn¦t harm what we set out to do in any way at all.
Then why do you seem so angry? Why so many FIX posts about all this?
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SinBin
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Posted - 2005.06.03 23:22:00 -
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- BoB (every single one of them)
- Atuk, Supremacy, BoS
- CFS pilots
- Krom
- M0o get a special mention.
- DIE
- and many more that chose not to resort to this kind of tactic, kudos to them.....
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That is so lame did you bother reading the replys to your post before you added that ?.
I did & it was a nice post till then, you got evol there saying its ok rkk ect that bob & you have been fihgintg with them in your space so noones had to travel to your space to have to log.
I have seen bob log but when they have had to travel to the battle field as many have to & i bet you will if you travel up to venal from fixvill.
Good first post kept me in till i saw the punch line but with the guys your pointing out in the post saying there do it & why, i see madgaz to ex krom.
so did you total pwnd your self or have i misundstood & pwnd myself ?.
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SinBin
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Posted - 2005.06.03 23:26:00 -
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if i did misuderstand & it was a real post wanting opions, then id agree with most its ok if the odds are silly but i preffer saying on till i gotta go for bed.
Iv gone south with the usa guys & had to sleep making the chances of being ganked much worse.
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.06.03 23:26:00 -
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Originally by: SinBin
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- BoB (every single one of them)
- Atuk, Supremacy, BoS
- CFS pilots
- Krom
- M0o get a special mention.
- DIE
- and many more that chose not to resort to this kind of tactic, kudos to them.....
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That is so lame did you bother reading the replys to your post before you added that ?.
I did & it was a nice post till then, you got evol there saying its ok rkk ect that bob & you have been fihgintg with them in your space so noones had to travel to your space to have to log.
I have seen bob log but when they have had to travel to the battle field as many have to & i bet you will if you travel up to venal from fixvill.
Good first post kept me in till i saw the punch line but with the guys your pointing out in the post saying there do it & why, i see madgaz to ex krom.
so did you total pwnd your self or have i misundstood & pwnd myself ?.
ofc if BoB logs out its ok they say but if others do its omghaxsploit and whatever 
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SinBin
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Posted - 2005.06.03 23:30:00 -
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Edited by: SinBin on 03/06/2005 23:39:04
Edited by: SinBin on 03/06/2005 23:34:20
ill send word to my mods it pure flamebait with a nice front end.
Edit it The Clash fast i didnt want to say but you said ya self.
you lot are dragging my down im starting to enjoy this its safer ingame than on the forums, excuse my mods since i took um off rod there just not the same im far to nice to um, give um some slack to sleep & play games & they take the p***
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.06.03 23:32:00 -
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its idd kinda flamebait idd , and my prev post prob shouldnt be made as it would result in even more flaming .
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RacerX1
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Posted - 2005.06.03 23:33:00 -
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WTB: Coalition pilot with some ball...
personal opinion here, logging and ss's should have a set of skills that go with them, which effect the timing ect..
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.06.03 23:56:00 -
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WTS: Tissue
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ScoRpS
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Posted - 2005.06.03 23:58:00 -
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To me its just frustrating as i have lost ships going to other regions in raiding parties but the difference i suppose is that i would rather lose a ship and get podded home then stay in an alien region for days on end hoping for a way out to emerge.
I can understand that people have real lives and these problems occur all the time everywhere, wife needs picking up from work, food needs eatin etc and before u know it a workable fleet becomes suddenly fragmentated and unmovable.
it is a game but it aint easy...
and my respect goes out to fleet commanders every where for trying to do wats best with what they have, perhaps more comms between opposing fleet commanders to arrange watever is needed would go a long way and keep most ppl happy.
And to add to that point i have seen FIX many times accomodate such requests in a mature and realistic way.
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2005.06.04 00:02:00 -
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Originally by: ScoRpS
To me its just frustrating as i have lost ships going to other regions in raiding parties but the difference i suppose is that i would rather lose a ship and get podded home then stay in an alien region for days on end hoping for a way out to emerge.
I can understand that people have real lives and these problems occur all the time everywhere, wife needs picking up from work, food needs eatin etc and before u know it a workable fleet becomes suddenly fragmentated and unmovable.
it is a game but it aint easy...
and my respect goes out to fleet commanders every where for trying to do wats best with what they have, perhaps more comms between opposing fleet commanders to arrange watever is needed would go a long way and keep most ppl happy.
And to add to that point i have seen FIX many times accomodate such requests in a mature and realistic way.
It's just too bad were not here to accomodate your requests in any way
Allways move fast, you never know who's catching up!
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SinBin
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Posted - 2005.06.04 00:05:00 -
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Yea everyone like a good battle & gets frustrated when ya waste a night waiting for it then they log but I think you should check ya boy as this is more damaging to ya alaince named.
He done well getting in the big pvp names hoping to help himself but most hates peeps crawling also but I dunno most them guys do love um selfs.
Still south parks on now & that much beeter & could carm ya down easy after a logging.
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:02:00 -
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Boldyn, didnt you or some other guy log off down in osht a while ago after your dominix blew up? Tbh if you did I wouldnt care less, but mr topic creator seems to think otherwise..
No offence or anything, but these posts make you look whiney, tarnishing an otherwise very highly esteemed alliance(whether you like it or not, what you say represents your alliance, this and the other posts created by fix pilots). With fix space there are no npc stations, so times when pilots might be docking result in the pilot logging off instead.
Why stay logged on if you are outgunned and outnumbered, and just spend your time warping from safespot to safespot? At that point eve would just be a pretty chat program, no joke. I personally find alot of eve is extremely boring(yes insert safespot joke here), Im sure as hell not going to spend it warping from safespot to safespot as there are many other things I could be doing while waiting for the enemy to dissipate such as walking the dog, working out, eating, watching tv, going out, doing work, taking a nap, even forum whoring etc.
From an rp point of view, I can understand it destroys that aspect, but honestly, you dont expect someone to stay online if there is nothing else to do in a given situation?
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:23:00 -
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Personally I think log off/on tactics are lame but then in a way its kinda good cause the longer you can scare some of these ppl into logging off is the more minutes of quality game for the rest of us without these ppl online.
Scaring these ppl offline makes the game just that much better for me.
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Gibmundur
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:35:00 -
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more whine plz
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Unleashed
Boldyn, didnt you or some other guy log off down in osht a while ago after your dominix blew up? Tbh if you did I wouldnt care less, but mr topic creator seems to think otherwise..
ROFL?? he obviously fought got blown up and then decided to call it a day.... if only everybody did that ...
Originally by: Unleashed
No offence or anything, but these posts make you look whiney, tarnishing an otherwise very highly esteemed alliance(whether you like it or not, what you say represents your alliance, this and the other posts created by fix pilots).
And you know how we got this reputation that you speak of? Yeah thats right, we got it by fighting every day, for months and months sometimes against overwhelming odds and against fearsome opponents. Without, resorting to log-on log-off tactics. You might wanna try it sometime it will do wonders for 'your' reputation....
Originally by: Unleashed
With fix space there are no npc stations, so times when pilots might be docking result in the pilot logging off instead.
Who's whining now? You cant dock OMG, you are in enemy territory for gods sakes..... FIX has no npc stations should make it all the more easy to destroy our alliance right?
Originally by: Unleashed
Why stay logged on if you are outgunned and outnumbered, and just spend your time warping from safespot to safespot? At that point eve would just be a pretty chat program, no joke.
K.. so let me get this straight you go to a place *where* you know you will be outnumbered and outgunned and then you dont like it when you get there so you log off...... makes perfect sense .. NOT  Why did you go there in the first place?
Originally by: Unleashed
I personally find alot of eve is extremely boring(yes insert safespot joke here).
Why dont you be honest with yourself, you find Eve boring, except for that one moment when you might get a shiny killmail, which is the only reason you log on for, and you cant get it you log off, simple, from that point of view ofc your argument makes perfect sense.
Originally by: Unleashed
Im sure as hell not going to spend it warping from safespot to safespot as there are many other things I could be doing while waiting for the enemy to dissipate such as walking the dog, working out, eating, watching tv, going out, doing work, taking a nap, even forum whoring etc.
If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen as the saying goes, DONT GO TO PLACES YOU CANT HANDLE.... !!!!!
Originally by: Unleashed
From an rp point of view, I can understand it destroys that aspect, but honestly, you dont expect someone to stay online if there is nothing else to do in a given situation?
No we expect that person to have the brain capacity to stay away from situations which they can't handle. Unfortunately your interpretation of that is, log off when im in a situation I cant handle.
I hope you understand how lame that is, if you dont, then I cant help you....
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Gibmundur
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:42:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Unleashed
Boldyn, didnt you or some other guy log off down in osht a while ago after your dominix blew up? Tbh if you did I wouldnt care less, but mr topic creator seems to think otherwise..
ROFL?? he obviously fought got blown up and then decided to call it a day.... if only everybody did that ...
Originally by: Unleashed
No offence or anything, but these posts make you look whiney, tarnishing an otherwise very highly esteemed alliance(whether you like it or not, what you say represents your alliance, this and the other posts created by fix pilots).
And you know how we got this reputation that you speak of? Yeah thats right, we got it by fighting every day, for months and months sometimes against overwhelming odds and against fearsome opponents. Without, resorting to log-on log-off tactics. You might wanna try it sometime it will do wonders for 'your' reputation....
Originally by: Unleashed
With fix space there are no npc stations, so times when pilots might be docking result in the pilot logging off instead.
Who's whining now? You cant dock OMG, you are in enemy territory for gods sakes..... FIX has no npc stations should make it all the more easy to destroy our alliance right?
Originally by: Unleashed
Why stay logged on if you are outgunned and outnumbered, and just spend your time warping from safespot to safespot? At that point eve would just be a pretty chat program, no joke.
K.. so let me get this straight you go to a place *where* you know you will be outnumbered and outgunned and then you dont like it when you get there so you log off...... makes perfect sense .. NOT Why did you go there in the first place?
Originally by: Unleashed
I personally find alot of eve is extremely boring(yes insert safespot joke here).
Why dont you be honest with yourself, you find Eve boring, except for that one moment when you might get a shiny killmail, which is the only reason you log on for, and you cant get it you log off, simple, from that point of view ofc your argument makes perfect sense.
Originally by: Unleashed
Im sure as hell not going to spend it warping from safespot to safespot as there are many other things I could be doing while waiting for the enemy to dissipate such as walking the dog, working out, eating, watching tv, going out, doing work, taking a nap, even forum whoring etc.
If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen as the saying goes, DONT GO TO PLACES YOU CANT HANDLE.... !!!!!
Originally by: Unleashed
From an rp point of view, I can understand it destroys that aspect, but honestly, you dont expect someone to stay online if there is nothing else to do in a given situation?
No we expect that person to have the brain capacity to stay away from situations which they can't handle. Unfortunately your interpretation of that is, log off when im in a situation I cant handle.
I hope you understand how lame that is, if you dont, then I cant help you....
damn, more whine plz 
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:45:00 -
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Originally by: Gibmundur
damn, more whine plz
Why dont you crawl back into whichever hole you came from, if you have nothing to say keep your mouth shut.....
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Gibmundur
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:46:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Gibmundur
damn, more whine plz
Why dont you crawl back into whichever hole you came from, if you have nothing to say keep your mouth shut.....
I heard going outside helps you overcome youre sickness
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 01:54:21
Anyways, this thread was started by myself, I've said what i wanted to say, got a few things off my chest...
I would now ask the moderators to lock this thread before I say something I really regret.
Either way I'm done.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:54:00 -
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ahh is little nezy all sad that he is being made fun of?
muhahahhaha
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Luc Boye
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:54:00 -
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Edited by: Luc Boye on 04/06/2005 01:55:57
Originally by: Dianabolic
It's using the game mecahnics to gain an advantage, albiet a pretty lame one. I know I'd log off if blobbed, just because I can. It is a fairly common practice though.
Having said all of that, I would absolutely support turning the logoff timer to a pvp aggressed pilot to be 2 hours, and a non-aggressed pilot to be 30minutes.
But that's just me.
Problem with that is that in blobbing warfare people can go around for hours without being aggressed whatsoever.
Also a lot of people have no time to fly around for 2 hours until pvp aggro flag wears off due to work, sleep, wives, kids, drug addiction, mental ilness or whatever the reasons
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:57:00 -
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I think this states it best
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Leilani Solaris
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:57:00 -
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Originally by: MadGaz
So in conclusion, your views are:
If you are going into enemy space you are supposed to kamikaze against a blob
No offence, but you should change your tactics so they dont need to logoff and maybe you can both get some enjoyable fights and win with superior tactics not numbers.
(oh how I am going to get flamed)
'They' Dont just log off when outnumbered, I was chasing one of them solo and he logged off when i started to catch up. Another example, i was Chasing 3 frigs in my crow, alone, all 3 logged off.
Explain...
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:58:00 -
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Originally by: FalloutBoy
ahh is little nezy all sad that he is being made fun of?
muhahahhaha
Well I think when it comes to certain people, we are dealing with a level of intelligence approaching that of a chipmunk, hence having a discussion where they can participate in is pointless.... like the author in the quotes has just confirmed....
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.06.04 01:59:00 -
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honestly why is fix so mad about the way were fight our war? we could care less about your blobs we won't fight them we'll do our thing you do yours
leave it on the battlefield
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Gibmundur
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: FalloutBoy
ahh is little nezy all sad that he is being made fun of?
muhahahhaha
Well I think when it comes to certain people, we are dealing with a level of intelligence approaching that of a chipmunk, hence having a discussion where they can participate in is pointless.... like the author in the quotes has just confirmed....
You started it dude, by calling people brainless, you were probably commenting on youreself, i dont really know
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:01:00 -
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Can't win here Nez those that spend more time logged off have more time to spent on the forums...Best not to let those ppl drag you down to thier lvl.
Any dedicated Eve player knows what lame tactics are so best to just rise above it.
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:02:00 -
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I sence the lockage
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Gibmundur
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:05:00 -
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Originally by: Doppleganger
Can't win here Nez those that spend more time logged off have more time to spent on the forums...Best not to let those ppl drag you down to thier lvl.
Any dedicated Eve player knows what lame tactics are so best to just rise above it.
so thats why he spends 1 hour writting replys
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:09:00 -
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wow, someone certainly is taking the game a little too seriously 
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:14:00 -
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I haven't taken the time to read the entire thread. It's funny when you bust a SS and all of a sudden all three Battleships suddenly have a CTD at the SAME time.
As for fighting with even numbers.. that wouldn't matter.. we could show up in 10 haulers and they would still log off. We all know who we are talking about. All you guys can do is log off because your fighting ability is pathetic. You guys say you good at pvp.. so you jump in with 20+ ships to gank an NPCer.. good on ya. but if it were 20 FIX pvper you guys would have massed logged.
not sure how you think this will get your station back with these lame tactics. grow some and bring it like you have said you would.. so far we have seen nothing more than a bunch of scared little kids
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:16:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
K.. so let me get this straight you go to a place *where* you know you will be outnumbered and outgunned and then you dont like it when you get there so you log off...... makes perfect sense .. NOT Why did you go there in the first place?
If you cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen as the saying goes, DONT GO TO PLACES YOU CANT HANDLE.... !!!!!
No we expect that person to have the brain capacity to stay away from situations which they can't handle. Unfortunately your interpretation of that is, log off when im in a situation I cant handle.
I hope you understand how lame that is, if you dont, then I cant help you....
Whats going on here Nez is your frustrated that fights arnt being done your way and on your terms.. well tough ****.. YOU started this war, you dont expect us to just stay out of FIX space because you said so? If someone cant handle a particular fight then they will stay away from it and come back when its better.. what your saying is dont log off but leave FIX space all together. Well how about no... What your proposing is if you dont want to fight the FIX blob then dont come to FIX space... Sorry no ones going anywhere..
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Chib
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:17:00 -
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ok.....logging off when you being shot at is unacceptable...its abuse....but if i have 10 BS in a gang and u bring 30 im not going to engage because its instadeath for whoever is called primary and im not gonna sit @ POS's or SS any longer....
although ....u complain that coalition logs off on u but u sit on ur POS in FAT until u outblob us(apart from the very first time we attacked station), once we see too many superior numbers ....we'll move on or log off ...
i asked a fix member for a 1v1 a cupl days ago and he agreed and we had a good fight (wolf vs wolf) 5 mins after he leaves system to repair his ship (to come back i might add) theres 6 frigs(most t2) and a HAC ..i ask in local for a 1v1 and i was ignored i then warped in to a planet where 2 frigs were sitting and engaged them...as expected the rest of the gang warped in and killed me ship and pod...dont take this for a moan but i would of fought every single one, muninn included on a 1v1 but i guess the thirst for the killmail exists with fix too
....i could of logged or left but i wanted to fight...if im running a gang thts a different story my ships are my own to throw away but im not going to just waste a fleet of BS
and as regards to us all sitting in our POS's in FAT...sometimes cov ops is the key and if theres none available sometimes ppl on both sides dont want to throw their ship at gate / station and risk meeting a gank fleet (both sides have done it)
so when u say how do u adapt to log off's.........use smaller fleets maybe (take turns if u have to) , try trap the enemy into engaging maybe...sneak round to other systems to avoid their cov ops and what not...use ur imagination instead of grabbing every ship u can and trying to gank......because i wont take my BS into a 10BS fleet its just stupid...if u want a fight then balance ur fleets a little better ...we'll fight outnumbered ....but not when the odds are like 4:1
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:18:00 -
[49]
I wonder how many more *witty* one liners we shall have to suffer from the chipmunk crew before this thread is done ..........
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:18:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Raid on 04/06/2005 02:19:10
Originally by: Crzycnck2
I haven't taken the time to read the entire thread. It's funny when you bust a SS and all of a sudden all three Battleships suddenly have a CTD at the SAME time.
As for fighting with even numbers.. that wouldn't matter.. we could show up in 10 haulers and they would still log off. We all know who we are talking about. All you guys can do is log off because your fighting ability is pathetic. You guys say you good at pvp.. so you jump in with 20+ ships to gank an NPCer.. good on ya. but if it were 20 FIX pvper you guys would have massed logged.
not sure how you think this will get your station back with these lame tactics. grow some and bring it like you have said you would.. so far we have seen nothing more than a bunch of scared little kids
You sir, have no idea what your talking about... Go back to the comfort of your blob. You have taken the time to read this thread but you have no idea who your talking about.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:20:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Nez Perces
I wonder how many more *witty* one liners we shall have to suffer from the chipmunk crew before this thread is done ..........
just go back to your blob and be quiet you sound like the brainless fool you are
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Gibmundur
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:21:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Nez Perces
I wonder how many more *witty* one liners we shall have to suffer from the chipmunk crew before this thread is done ..........
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Raid
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:23:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Nez Perces
I wonder how many more *witty* one liners we shall have to suffer from the chipmunk crew before this thread is done ..........
This thread is like like your wars Nez.. dont start things you cant
finnish..
Was that a good one liner for you?
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ScoRpS
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:25:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Darpz
honestly why is fix so mad about the way were fight our war? we could care less about your blobs we won't fight them we'll do our thing you do yours
leave it on the battlefield
Fight? hehe if thats wat u wanna call it..
I remember in another post that one of ur guys said props to fix for warping 10 bs's into a fleet of 50 coalition bs's, fix likes to bring it, but so do we....
bring it to where is the real question
Cant add anything more without flaming the superb coalition leadership on the art of fighting without fighting unless its a textualised confrontation here.
anyhow this is my personal opinion and not of my corp or fix
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:27:00 -
[55]
Originally by: ScoRpS
Originally by: Darpz
honestly why is fix so mad about the way were fight our war? we could care less about your blobs we won't fight them we'll do our thing you do yours
leave it on the battlefield
Fight? hehe if thats wat u wanna call it..
I remember in another post that one of ur guys said props to fix for warping 10 bs's into a fleet of 50 coalition bs's, fix likes to bring it, but so do we....
bring it to where is the real question
Cant add anything more without flaming the superb coalition leadership on the art of fighting without fighting unless its a textualised confrontation here.
anyhow this is my personal opinion and not of my corp or fix
fight the war the way you want we will fight it the way we want.
looking at eachothers killboards were pretty even in this war
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:29:00 -
[56]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 02:31:43
Originally by: Raid
This thread is like like your wars Nez.. dont start things you cant
finnish..
What war? you mean pilots coming into querious and logging on and off like its going out of fashion, you dont get it do you?.......
What this thread is about is letting off some steam and letting the community know what you guys are up to.... what you call a war is little more than a joke.
The CFS put up more of a fight than you are doing, and you were the 'SE elite'?... boy they are so much better off without you......
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:32:00 -
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What this thread is about is letting off some steam and letting the community know what you guys are up to.... what you call a war is little more than a joke.
yet it has turned into a thread with you sounding like a wineing baby
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Gibmundur
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:34:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 02:31:43
Originally by: Raid
This thread is like like your wars Nez.. dont start things you cant
finnish..
What war? you mean pilots coming into querious and logging on and off like its going out of fashion, you dont get it do you?.......
What this thread is about is letting off some steam and letting the community know what you guys are up to.... what you call a war is little more than a joke.
The CFS put up more of a fight than you are doing, and you were the 'SE elite'?... boy they are so much better off without you......
ah comon nezzie, you know we love you
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Cujo
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Posted - 2005.06.04 02:48:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Cujo on 04/06/2005 02:55:07
Edited by: Cujo on 04/06/2005 02:53:57
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: FalloutBoy
ahh is little nezy all sad that he is being made fun of?
muhahahhaha
Well I think when it comes to certain people, we are dealing with a level of intelligence approaching that of a chipmunk, hence having a discussion where they can participate in is pointless.... like the author in the quotes has just confirmed....
I told ya he would show his true colors. Now heres a guys thats says he "controls" his space. I hope you had inplants. lol. Plz, stop your belly aching and chipmunk this.
2005.06.03 16:18:00
Victim: Nez Perces
Alliance: Firmus Ixion
Corporation: J.H.E.N.R
Destroyed Type: Retriever
Solar System: ZXJ-71
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Gradinger
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Species 5618
Ship Type: Merlin
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: dabaron
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Species 5618
Ship Type: Punisher
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Roindt (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 0.4
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Species 5618
Ship Type: Tristan
Weapon Type: 125mm Railgun I
Destroyed items:
Type: Small Armor Repairer I (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Energized Basic Thermic Plating (Fitted - Low slot)
Type: Ice Harvester I (Fitted - High slot)
Type: Enriched Clear Icicle (Cargo)
Quantity: 1
2005.06.03 16:19:00
Victim: Nez Perces
Alliance: Firmus Ixion
Corporation: J.H.E.N.R
Destroyed Type: Capsule
Solar System: ZXJ-71
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: dabaron (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Species 5618
Ship Type: Punisher
Weapon Type: Dual Light Pulse Laser I
Name: Roindt
Security Status: 0.4
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Species 5618
Ship Type: Tristan
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Gradinger
Security Status: 5.0
Alliance: Unknown
Corporation: Species 5618
Ship Type: Merlin
Weapon Type: Unknown
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:00:00 -
[60]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 10:12:33
OMG you killed a retriever, not only, you killed MY retriever........ NOW YOU ALL HAVE TO DIE !!!!!!!!!!!
cue... *rolling thunder, and lightning* .......
hangon, we alredy did the thunder and lightning two weeks ago when FIX steamrolled into Catch and captured FAT station....... we are still waiting for you to attempt taking it back......before the EVE servers shut down ......
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Darpz
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:03:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 03:01:01
hangon, we alredy did the thunder and lighting two weeks ago when FIX steamrolled into Catch and captured FAT station....... we are still waiting for you to attempt taking it back......before the EVE servers shut down ......
station ping pong is no fun we'll just continue ganking you in your space
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Konzul Proutek
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:03:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Konzul Proutek on 04/06/2005 03:06:48
The simple fact is we tried to avoid this war but Nez wouldn't have anything to do with it. Now he wants to go flame the forums because we don't fight on his terms. We fight to win not p*ss our ships away on a blob that has us out numbered 4 to 1. Your space will never be safe as long as you wage this war against us. Get use to it.
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Cujo
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:07:00 -
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Nez....get a grip, your loseing it. Maybe you should let someone else take over. Your getting all your guys killed here. As i said, we'll take the station when were ready. As for now, killing you all is much funner and most especially catching the ol mighty big talking Nez in a barge mining....lmao. You know, the guy who controls his space.
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The Coalition / CEO Species 5618 |
Chib
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:08:00 -
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dont u guys kick for forum flaming anyways......because your on fire nez and your burning up bad
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:10:00 -
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I think FIX has made our point quite clearly, as have the folks in the Coalition.
We think about combat one way, they see it another.
We will likely never agree, and let's leave it at that.
www.hadean.org
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:18:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Cujo
Nez....get a grip, your loseing it. Maybe you should let someone else take over. Your getting all your guys killed here. As i said, we'll take the station when were ready. As for now, killing you all is much funner and most especially catching the ol mighty big talking Nez in a barge mining....lmao. You know, the guy who controls his space.
All our guys getting killed?? what are you smoking bud..
Im glad the death of my retriever is a source of amusement for you, gg, this game is about having fun. If you killing my retriever makes your day, i am truly happy for you I really am.
Let me be frank, the pilots we are fighting at present are on the whole nice guys, they dont smack *too much* well they did at first but its gotten a lot better know. Individually they are very competent pilots, that is the truth....... but what is inexcusable is having to revert to the tactics of logging off repeatedly at the slightest sign of trouble.
Guys get organised, dont fly ships you cant afford to lose, and play the game, not some kind of warped version of hide and seek with the ESC button primed at every opportunity. We know you are capable of it, ditch the ESC button, you'll feel better and enjoy the game more.
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:29:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Cujo
Nez....get a grip, your loseing it. Maybe you should let someone else take over. Your getting all your guys killed here. As i said, we'll take the station when were ready. As for now, killing you all is much funner and most especially catching the ol mighty big talking Nez in a barge mining....lmao. You know, the guy who controls his space.
All our guys getting killed?? what are you smoking bud..
Im glad the death of my retriever is a source of amusement for you, gg, this game is about having fun. If you killing my retriever makes your day, i am truly happy for you I really am.
Let me be frank, the pilots we are fighting at present are on the whole nice guys, they dont smack *too much* well they did at first but its gotten a lot better know. Individually they are very competent pilots, that is the truth....... but what is inexcusable is having to revert to the tactics of logging off repeatedly at the slightest sign of trouble.
Guys get organised, dont fly ships you cant afford to lose, and play the game, not some kind of warped version of hide and seek with the ESC button primed at every opportunity. We know you are capable of it, ditch the ESC button, you'll feel better and enjoy the game more.
were enjoying the game fine, its you that seems to not be having fun.
catching a FIX raven in 4-0 trying to rat hunt in our space was a fun time
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Cujo
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:30:00 -
[68]
Nez, you really dont need to be in the position that you are in. Your anger is going to make this a long long war. Which is fine with us because thats what we do, and we dont have to travel far for this one.
I'll be the first to admit there is some pretty cool FIX guys that we have fought, and there has been smack talkers as well. But as stated you will never be safe in your space as long as you wage war on us.
I talked with you myself to try and avoid all of this but you acted like a jerk and stated you would keep killing Species members. That left us no other choice. But still we didnt attack. But when you moved into FAT that was all we were going to take from you Nez. So there is no sence in getting upset. This is what you started and this is what you have your members involved in. So get use to it or come up off of your high horse and be reasonable.
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The Coalition / CEO Species 5618 |
shivan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:49:00 -
[69]
Edited by: shivan on 04/06/2005 03:53:29
Originally by: Nez Perces
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 03:01:01
OMG you killed a retriever, not only, you killed MY retriever........ NOW YOU ALL HAVE TO DIE !!!!!!!!!!!
cue... *rolling thunder, and lighting* .......
hangon, we alredy did the thunder and lighting two weeks ago when FIX steamrolled into Catch and captured FAT station....... we are still waiting for you to attempt taking it back......before the EVE servers shut down ......
*YAWN*
(its 4.30am btw  )
We did take it back for a short while, unfortunetly when we did, and I took over the gang that night, over 50% of the gang I took over, logged or left system and headed home within 30minutes.
We fought you in FAT outnumbered and extremly outgunned that night, seeing as people where staying at the station in the faintist of hopes they could lock without the dual sensor booster, dual tracking comp fleet combat this game has seemed to devolve into.
I've fought 5 or 6 of your bs plus surport craft, with just me and an AF. Killed an apoc, took a phoon heavily into structre before I got jammed. I died.
Ive also fought 6-2
5bs and 1 frig, v my bs and a m8's. That time I died again and one of yors warped out heavily into structre.
The point im trying to make is this.
When we where taking back FAT, did I see FIX warp in and try and stop us that night?
NO
That night, did FIX wait untill there blob had 1.5-2 on 1 odd untill engageing.
YES
Will I fight FIX grossly outnumbered just so I can get a fight?
H3LL YEAH
WHY?
Cuz I've been in the alliance, and delt with the crap when SA was at war with CA. If SA where camping head, CA would come with at least 2x as many bs, and vice versa.
If you have numbers, you are always gonna use them as its a great advantage to have.
You guys are an alliance with more resources than we have. More members than we have.
Sry everyone, I just had a thought, this entire thread is so pointless I've fogetten the entire point to my post.
Oh well never mind. 
(Serious bit)
IT'S A GAME TO BE PLAYED TO HAVE FUN.
People won't play if they dont think they are gonna have fun.
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flummox
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:53:00 -
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why can't we all just get along? this game is fun. even when people safespot log off, it's still fun. sure, i hate it when a fleet interrupts my day of station spinning or carving my name into an asteroid then 20 minutes later they are nowhere to be found. i even groan at the loss of 'my style' of play. but, that's the small price to pay to claim our own space...
right?
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:55:00 -
[71]
oh and IBTL
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 03:58:00 -
[72]
Originally by: shivan
You guys are an alliance with more resources than we have. More members than we have.
K thats fine, fair enough.. now explain why 'the coalition' then thinks it can claim and hold not one region but two regions Catch and Omist. Not only that, but galavant around the galaxy declaring war on entire alliances, and then 'b-r-i-n-g-i-t* to FIX.
How about a reality check... how about you stop throwing weight around you haven't got......FIX is your reality check.... wakeup.....
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 04:01:00 -
[73]
I also find your new tactic of suicide runs in empire to be amusing also
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Cujo
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Posted - 2005.06.04 04:19:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Nez Perces
How about a reality check... how about you stop throwing weight around you haven't got......FIX is your reality check.... wakeup.....
*sigh* You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. Nez, your the one that needs to wake up. You are looking like a fool here and you did it all by yourself. I realy hope your alliance can see who they are following because things can only get worse from here on. Im finished with this thread for the simple reason you have proved all of our claims.
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Felony Assualt
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Posted - 2005.06.04 04:36:00 -
[75]
Edited by: Felony Assualt on 04/06/2005 04:41:54
FIX 4TW!!!!! Enough said
3 Threads about this crap, I think everyone has whined enough. So just stop, you look like little kids fighting over the last piece of candy
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Kashre
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Posted - 2005.06.04 04:41:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Kashre on 04/06/2005 04:45:58
Edited by: Kashre on 04/06/2005 04:44:28
omg how is this thread not locked?
Anyways, here's my 2 cents... totally not representative of my alliance or CEO or corpmates or my dog or my mom blah blah.
Logging off in enemy territory is (imo) lame if you do it for the purpose of hiding out till the heat dies down so you can log on and look for cheap ganks. I wouldnt do it, it sounds booring. I wouldnt reall call it wrong though. That's sort of akin to the japanese sneaking mini-subs into pearl harbor to hide and then attack at the same time as the main airstrike.
On the other hand. I and a couple freinds once took 3 BS to go and gank a .4 gate camping raven... and right after we killed him he actually called his corp up on their cell phones (that's dedication) and they all logged on in the same system... we were trapped by about 6 scorps on our exit gate without instajumps. What did we do? We logged. cause those odds were unbeatable, I didnt wana throw my ship away, and sitting in a SS all night wasnt as fun as watching X-Play.
Its *nothing* at all akin to logging in mid-fight, which is a truely sucky thing to do, but tbh I have not yet seen mass do it, although I havent had the pleasure of as many fights with them as Id like. I demand MASS fly more during us pacific time evenings.
P.S. The only people getting killed BTW are the noobcakes who arent smart enough to check local or alliance chat before undocking their battleships. And me, cause I just love to play bait so much.
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2005.06.04 04:52:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Cujo
*sigh* You can lead a horse to water but you cant make him drink. Nez, your the one that needs to wake up. You are looking like a fool here and you did it all by yourself. I realy hope your alliance can see who they are following because things can only get worse from here on. Im finished with this thread for the simple reason you have proved all of our claims.
As Nez said in his post Quote:
"N.B This thread is my own personal thread and is not meant to represent FIX in any way, I could post with an alt to ensure FIX is not involved but then the thread wouldnt be worth a hill of beans.
Fix is not lead by 1 person but by a council so by your statement about Originally by: Cujo
I realy hope your alliance can see who they are following because things can only get worse from here on.
shows you dont know what we think on anything... we don't suffer our members by restricting their freedom of speech as long as they state it is their opinion.
Like I have said I don't mind your tactics since all is fair in love and war and the more time we can keep ppl with questionable tactics logged off is just our way of bettering the eve experience for others from those kind of lamers. (btw thats just my opinion too and not my corp's or FIX's)
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Findail
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Posted - 2005.06.04 05:00:00 -
[78]
Man, hasn't this thread degenerated quickly....
First off, I'd like to give credit where it's due.
I was one of the pilots that came up against Shivan in FAT, and all I can say is he's a real credit to his corp. A good fighter, and a gracious loser. Good fight mate.
Personally I'd like to see logging timers introduced. It'd force both sides to be more prepared i.e covert ops ships already set up to scan systems quickly and accurately in order to beat the timers, and those wishing to log off will choose the SS's they use much more carefully.
It might even help make probes useful 
As far as a lot of the other posts go... is showing some maturity, both in local and on forums, too much to ask for?
There's been a lot of posts saying logoff tactics are valid, but I wonder how many would be going OMFGSPLOIT!!! if it was used against them. Sure, there will be times when a machine crashes or a network connection drops somewhere; unfortunately thats unavoidable. But I really don't think logoff tactics should be used to prop up poor mission planning and execution......
N.B. These views are purely my own, and is not meant to represent my corp or alliance in any way.
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DR Hadley
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Posted - 2005.06.04 05:15:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Either way I'm done.
I see 6 more posts folling this one. Guess you werent done after all. Plus, its friday night, dont you have something better to do, like your sister?
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 05:21:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 05:23:23
Originally by: DR Hadley
I see 6 more posts folling this one. Guess you werent done after all.
Maybe it should have read "Either way I'm done being sensible....."
Originally by: DR Hadley
Don't you have something better to do, like your sister?
You are one sick puppy mister.......
If you go back and read the post you quoted me from, you will notice I also requested a lock, as the point of the thread was done... way back then.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.04 05:40:00 -
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Logging off in enemy space is a very strategic play. Imo it is very smart of the invaders. reason being no warning of when you will be attacking. if you simply move down to the claimed space you will most likely be spotted and the inhabitants warned. but If you log on you have a good chance of killing a few before the warnings are sent out. just my opinion I personalyl dont think its an exploit, because if invaders want to take over the space they will have to log in that space.
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.06.04 05:57:00 -
[82]
To be quite honest you're all looking pretty daft in this thread.
Fight it out in game.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 05:58:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Uggs386
Logging off in enemy space is a very strategic play. Imo it is very smart of the invaders. reason being no warning of when you will be attacking. if you simply move down to the claimed space you will most likely be spotted and the inhabitants warned. but If you log on you have a good chance of killing a few before the warnings are sent out. just my opinion I personalyl dont think its an exploit, because if invaders want to take over the space they will have to log in that space.
I hope you are not a fleet commander for your corp, I know for a fact not a single FIX pilot would fly under those conditions, i.e using the ESC button to circumvent game mechanics.
If there is a log-on log-off 101 manual out there, somebody please burn it before a whole generation of eve thinks what was described in the above post is smart tactics. Its lame tactics there is a big difference....!!!
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 06:00:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Blacklight
To be quite honest you're all looking pretty daft in this thread.
Fight it out in game.
We'd love to Blacklight, but thats the problem, they keep logging off, and off, and off and off ................ and whats worse they think its "cool"
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 06:02:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Nez Perces
I hope you are not a fleet commander for your corp, I know for a fact not a single FIX pilot would fly under those conditions, i.e using the ESC button to circumvent game mechanics.
No but FIX pilots will insta-vanish in space, using an actual exploit to avoid being killed. As I detailed in my little parody of your oh so pompous orignial "MAS Public hearing" thread.
So please, get off your high horse. FIX blobs, we don't End of arguement.
See you in game.
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 06:06:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Its lame tactics there is a big difference....!!!
If your defintion of lame is ineffectual then the log-off tactic isn't lame because judging by your repeated sniffles on the forums, it's actually quite effective and working fantasticly.
Now, I'll be logging on in an hour or two, is that OK with you guys?
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 06:09:00 -
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Originally by: Sceartan
Now, I'll be logging on in an hour or two, is that OK with you guys?
No no no Sceartan. You need to ask permission before logging *off*, no on!
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 06:14:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 06:21:40
Originally by: Sceartan
If your defintion of lame is ineffectual then the log-off tactic isn't lame because judging by your repeated sniffles on the forums, it's actually quite effective and working fantasticly.
K Sceartan, what exactly are you achieving by using your log-off tactics, you think me posting here has any effect on what happens in-game?
Most FIX pilots dont even read these forums. You are gonna continue to do what you do cause you think its a valid tactic.
The one thing you dont understand is that it has zero real term effects on FIX, yeah it gets us a little frustrated but thats about it, you are gonna have to come up with something a little more substantial to have an impact than logging off ships in FIX space..... at random.
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 06:37:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
K Sceartan, what exactly are you achieving by using your log-off tactics, you think me posting here has any effect on what happens in-game?
I am achieving;
- Not having to go 30+ jumps to a station to log off.
- Being able to stop playing the 'game' when I want to.
- Being able to log on and kill a shuttle without having to go 30+ jumps back into FIX space.
We play Eve to have fun, fun consists of shooting.
We don't play Eve to not have fun, not having fun consists of travelling ridiculously far to be able to stop playing a game.
I don't speak for anyone else but if the next hour of my gameplay consisted of staring at the client with nothing happening, then I'd prefer to spend that hour doing something constructive IRL.
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Awalance
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Posted - 2005.06.04 06:50:00 -
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what make this game so nice is coz he reflect real life verry well.
In wars are no rules ,Log off tactic its a survive tactic you can blaim a men who dont whanna be kiled .
Abaut log off tactic is simple, its a strategy and if you are good inuf you can avoid go in this trap ,if you are not,die with honour.
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 06:53:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 06:57:36
Oooh.. kk we are actually getting somewhere here.. if I may be politely allowed to suggest some rebuttals to your reasons....
Originally by: Sceartan
I am achieving;
- Not having to go 30+ jumps to a station to log off.
Thats a fair comment, however, in your case, im sure you can dock at the other two stations in catch, or alternatively dock at stations in Stain space. I'll eat my hat if there isnt a friendly station you can dock at half that amount of jumps. But this isnt the main gripe that we are talking of....
Originally by: Sceartan
- Being able to stop playing the 'game' when I want to.
You know thats actually fine when you are done playing the game, i would expect somebody to log. What isnt cool is when fleets log off en masse, cause they got themselves into a sticky situation...
Originally by: Sceartan
We play Eve to have fun, fun consists of shooting.
We don't play Eve to not have fun, not having fun consists of travelling ridiculously far to be able to stop playing a game.
I don't speak for anyone else but if the next hour of my gameplay consisted of staring at the client with nothing happening, then I'd prefer to spend that hour doing something constructive IRL.
K I guess this last statement can be taken as a compliment towards FIX's ability to react to threats quickly and decisively. Maybe a backhanded compliment but hey i'll settle for anything these days.....
May I be so bold as to suggest that your superiors are sending you to locations where you are going to be outnumbered and outgunned with little hope of getting out alive, unless you use methods such as the ESC button. Think about it, if you couldnt press escape at will, would coming to FIX space still be worth it? If the answer is yes... then why the log-off tactics.... ??
Its current worth is still questionable as by your own admissions logging off is something that has to be done on a regular basis.....
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Doppleganger
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Posted - 2005.06.04 06:55:00 -
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/me gives everyone a big group hug...............
(or is that a grope hug???)
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:14:00 -
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Edited by: FalloutBoy on 04/06/2005 07:14:35
Basically this thread boils down to 2 things:
1. Fix wants the coalition to "fight fair" (either blob like them or to fight thier superior numbers)
2. The Coalition thinks the previous idea is stupid and is more than happy to keep looking for stupid fix pilots waiting to be ganked
I think that covers things
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Azmodaus
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:25:00 -
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Would you all just shut the hell up!? If they want to log off they will log off, I say let them. If we want to blob we will blob simple as that. Everything else in this thread is freaking retarded so lets just settle it in-game and be done with it.
Oh and Moderators, this thread should have been locked a long long long time ago so quit stalling and get to it pleeeaaasseee for the love of pete!!
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:25:00 -
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Quote:
Thats a fair comment, however, in your case, im sure you can dock at the other two stations in catch, or alternatively dock at stations in Stain space. I'll eat my hat if there isnt a friendly station you can dock at half that amount of jumps. But this isnt the main gripe that we are talking of....
Or I could save myself a 1/2hr round trip of travelling and just log in space  . When I'm outnumbered (like for example now with about 8:1) I'm not going to risk moving my ship because it will undoubtely be ganked and I will then have to spend my time buying a new one, fitting it, flying it down, etc when I can just cut my losses and log off.
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You know thats actually fine when you are done playing the game, i would expect somebody to log. What isnt cool is when fleets log off en masse, cause they got themselves into a sticky situation...
This happens repeatidly and has been happening probably since the game came into retail. This entire thread is arguing one playstyle against another. We have no problem logging in space, so we do it to save us real life time. Again, this is a game and I treat it as such. Just because you guys don't, doesn't mean we can't.
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K I guess this last statement can be taken as a compliment towards FIX's ability to react to threats quickly and decisively. Maybe a backhanded compliment but hey i'll settle for anything these days.....
Wasn't intended to be but you can have the compliment, FIX has some good members in their alliance.
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May I be so bold as to suggest that your superiors are sending you to locations where you are going to be outnumbered and outgunned with little hope of getting out alive, unless you use methods such as the ESC button. Think about it, if you couldnt press escape at will, would coming to FIX space still be worth it? If the answer is yes... then why the log-off tactics.... ??
MASS is not a dictatorship, we all voted to come down and do this, so we all knew what we were getting ourselves into. We decided to do this because FIX attacked the Coalition's station in Catch so we are simple retaliating to this agressive act. If we were to not come down simple because you outnumber us then by that reasoning noone should attack people with greater numbers. This then just ends up being school yard bullying keyboard warrior style.
If I couldn't press quit at will I would still have come down to FIX space. The reason for the log-off tactics are as I said before. I don't have copious amounts of real life time to perform time consuming acts like jumping all the way back to a station to quit a game or go on a suicide mission just so I can spend more time getting a new ship and fitting it.
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:26:00 -
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Originally by: FalloutBoy
What he said.....^^
Well seems like we agree on something
I guess all we need now is that shiny metal object that goes ... clickety clink.....
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:27:00 -
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Originally by: Azmodaus
Would you all just shut the hell up!? If they want to log off they will log off, I say let them. If we want to blob we will blob simple as that. Everything else in this thread is freaking retarded so lets just settle it in-game and be done with it.
He speaks sense. Common sense. You're in my good book
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:41:00 -
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Originally by: Azmodaus
Would you all just shut the hell up!? If they want to log off they will log off, I say let them. If we want to blob we will blob simple as that. Everything else in this thread is freaking retarded so lets just settle it in-game and be done with it.
Oh and Moderators, this thread should have been locked a long long long time ago so quit stalling and get to it pleeeaaasseee for the love of pete!!
Cookies for the man please :)
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Azmodaus
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:56:00 -
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mmmmmmmm cookies
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 07:56:00 -
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Originally by: Azmodaus
mmmmmmmm cookies
i'm hungry
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:20:00 -
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everytime Nez posts, FIX's hard earned respect (yes, I do have respect for you guys) drops by a landslide, atleast in this thread.
I think this thread has run its course and I dont think I have seen so much whinage over the same thing in a while.
and as I said earlier in this thread: quit whining and adapt.
If you went out in smaller squads you *might* actually get a fight, but if you guys sit in 9cg or fat in a 70man blob noone's gonna bother anyways. try a squad of like 3BS a couple of BC's or cruisers and a few frigs, works wonders...
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:23:00 -
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^^ Smart Man
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:26:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
everytime Nez posts, FIX's hard earned respect (yes, I do have respect for you guys) drops by a landslide, atleast in this thread.
I think this thread has run its course and I dont think I have seen so much whinage over the same thing in a while.
and as I said earlier in this thread: quit whining and adapt.
Oh noes, Hast the wise has spoken, I think if FIX gave a monkey's crutch what you thought we'd really be in trouble.
FIX operates by the rule of law and my position is an elected one, if I didnt have the support of my peers and fellow alliance members I'd resign in a heartbeat.
So go take a running jump and stop being a smart ass Hast....
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Hast
everytime Nez posts, FIX's hard earned respect (yes, I do have respect for you guys) drops by a landslide, atleast in this thread.
I think this thread has run its course and I dont think I have seen so much whinage over the same thing in a while.
and as I said earlier in this thread: quit whining and adapt.
Oh noes, Hast the wise has spoken, I think if FIX gave a monkey's crutch what you thought we'd really be in trouble.
FIX operates by the rule of law and my position is an elected one, if I didnt have the support of my peers and fellow alliance members I'd resign in a heartbeat.
So go take a running jump and stop being a smart ass Hast....
I'm not trying to join your little forum flaming ring (been trying hard to stop posting too much). All I'm saying is that both sides should take one step back and a deep breath and then see what fools they are making of them self in this thread. And since you are the most active poster in fix and the biggest flamer in this thread I used you as an example.
all I'm saying is chill out. and all you give back is more flaming
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:32:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Oh noes, Hast the wise has spoken, I think if FIX gave a monkey's crutch what you thought we'd really be in trouble.
FIX operates by the rule of law and my position is an elected one, if I didnt have the support of my peers and fellow alliance members I'd resign in a heartbeat.
So go take a running jump and stop being a smart ass Hast....
hey nez this is just a shot in the dark but isn't flaiming on the forums a big no no for you guys?
I mean FIX does operate by a rule of law you should prolly follow those rules
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
all I'm saying is chill out. and all you give back is more flaming
Don't get all innocent on me now, poke me I'll poke you back....
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:34:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Hast
all I'm saying is chill out. and all you give back is more flaming
Don't get all innocent on me now, poke me I'll poke you back....
ok, thats it, I give up.
/me pokes Nez in the eye with a pencil and runs out of this thread
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:36:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 08:39:18
Originally by: FalloutBoy
hey nez this is just a shot in the dark but isn't flaiming on the forums a big no no for you guys?
Now go read the starter post and look for the N.B at the bottom of the thread, this post I started myself, and everything here is my personal opinion and not meant to be a reflection on FIX policy. I post with my main so as to not make the thread redundant with an alt. So you'd better find something better to get a dig at me with...
anybody else wanna dance?
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Wraithstorm
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:39:00 -
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Edited by: Wraithstorm on 04/06/2005 08:43:01
Ive read through all 8 pages of this post. My feelings in regards to the use of log off tactics have been expressed through others. I will say this. Use whatever you feel is an advantage, FIX is unflinching in its resolve. You will not stop our everyday routine by using log off tactics deep within our space. We still mine, haul, etc. I enjoy being able to undock and engage the enemy without having to go long distances. I thank you for this. You help our pilots evolve into an even finer war machine.
See you on the Battlefield. Keep the smack down and your guns up.
Elite Storm Commander and CEO
Fix Joint Chief of Staff
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:40:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 08:38:47
Now go read the starter post and look for the N.B at the bottom of the thread, this post I started myself, and everything here is my personal opinion and not meant to be a reflection on FIX policy. I post with my main so as to not make the thread redundant with an alt. So you'd better find something better to get a dig at me with...
anybody else wanna dance?
Originally by: Nez Perces
FIX operates by the rule of law and my position is an elected one, if I didnt have the support of my peers and fellow alliance members I'd resign in a heartbeat.
wich one is it?
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Kujin
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:40:00 -
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Edited by: Kujin on 04/06/2005 08:41:14
funny that this thread took 7 pages till we got to a point where the tactics are being discussed in a "gentlemen" and calm style...
I understand, that when i am outnumbered, i rather get with my m8s to a ss and log off b4 i waste my ship/time and money on a game, where i loose all the time.....
But when i do this, i should watch my mouth talking stuff like BRING IT !!!! "BRING IT" for me is get into the fight and kill the living sh** out of anything that shows red to me....( my personal opinion)
What i cannot understand is that when the situation is equal, we still see people logging off massively.
Well ok, the question here is, what do i expect from my fleet ?
Do i want to annoy the enemy like hell, and sometimes get some random kills ?
What about to get us all some more enjoyment,get together and make the map glow , !
Smack down, Guns up !!!
(This posts just reflects my own point of view, not the opinion of my Corp or FIX, it was not my intention to flame anyone )
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:43:00 -
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Originally by: Hast
Originally by: Nez Perces
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 08:38:47
Now go read the starter post and look for the N.B at the bottom of the thread, this post I started myself, and everything here is my personal opinion and not meant to be a reflection on FIX policy. I post with my main so as to not make the thread redundant with an alt. So you'd better find something better to get a dig at me with...
anybody else wanna dance?
Originally by: Nez Perces
FIX operates by the rule of law and my position is an elected one, if I didnt have the support of my peers and fellow alliance members I'd resign in a heartbeat.
wich one is it?
Huh, which one is what, what in gods name are you blabbering on about? .. your making no sense.....
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
everything here is my personal opinion and not meant to be a reflection on FIX policy.
but because of your position within the alliance and your influence on FIX policy I think your reflecting very well on your alliance
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:51:00 -
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Originally by: FalloutBoy
but because of your position within the alliance and your influence on FIX policy I think your reflecting very well on your alliance
Understand this Mr. Fallout boy.. :
ITS NONE OF YOUR GODDAM BUSINESS !!!!
Now go back to whatever you were doing before you logged off or whatever you normally do.....
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 08:55:00 -
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you know nez I think you should calm down your getting a wee bit cranky
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:06:00 -
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Nez seems to be one hell of a stand up guy as far as I have seen and heard.
The topic may be unfortunately chosen at this time, and might have had a better place on other forum sections, but don't go and tell him he's a whiner because of it.
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Yes yes, blogging is passÚ I know.
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Gungankllr
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:13:00 -
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Originally by: Anyonefromcoalition
Alright chums, I'm done, let's do this.
LOGOFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF JENKINS!
www.hadean.org
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Wraithstorm
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:22:00 -
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Edited by: Wraithstorm on 04/06/2005 09:26:11
I would hope that regardless of ones position in an Alliance he/she would be entitled to an opinion or point of view. As a fellow Joint Chief of Staff I am proud to be serving FIX with Nez and to be honest I can understand how one would get frustrated dealing with what most of the EVE Community call lame tactics. Check our killboards, His guns do just as much talking.
Elite Storm Commander and CEO
Fix Joint Chief of Staff
Honored to Serve |
Tuscan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:24:00 -
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Edited by: Tuscan on 04/06/2005 09:25:09
A FIRST FOR ME - I totally 100% agree with Nez.
Expect to die, or run like hell. I'm sure some of the kr0m guys will testify to me (with my old char) running a block of 20+ FA ships in their home system to get home and surviving. That probably sticks in my mind as the most fun I have ever had ingame, running like hell from the enemy is a buzz and everyone shouyld do it. Logging off is lame.
edit - didnt read the last page of flame. QUALITY! Another first - Im actually staying on topic! pwned
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Mindlles on 04/06/2005 09:26:43
Edited by: Mindlles on 04/06/2005 09:26:34
oh **** that, i wont bother to post
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Being specific about one party or another seems to be against the forum moderation rules of conduct. To this end I shall be non-specific. And raise a topic which I believe is important to pilots all around eve, particularly those in territory claiming entities.
And here is the question :
Is Logging off in enemy territory when cornered by enemy forces an acceptable mode of conduct? (note that the word exploit is not being used )
My view on this subject :
My personal view is that if you are going to enter enemy space you should realise that its probably a one-way ticket unless you are victorious.
My alliance often does raids into enemy territory and we do them in the full knowledge that chances of returning in one piece are slim.
Logging off in enemy territory, and specifically, using coordinated log offs and en masse, is degenerating the game, by providing get out of jail card when you have got yourself into a losing situation.
There is ofc the argument that why bother fighting if you are outnumbered and outgunned? To this I will answer, if you go into enemy territory with limited numbers expect to be outnumbered. Have some valour and stay online, or retreat. But dont circumvent game mechanics by hitting the ESC button.
N.B This thread is my own personal thread and is not meant to represent FIX in any way, I could post with an alt to ensure FIX is not involved but then the thread wouldnt be worth a hill of beans.
I agree with you on a tactical point of view, and with your views concerning mass logoffs when in enemy land, and this being a principle of honor.
In my honest opinion, logging in enemy territory is not honorable at all WHEN cornored, out-blob'd or the likes. Not meaning a day should be started and ended with your force travelling back and forth.
Running from a superior force is most exciting, especially if that force is trying everything in it's power to hunt you down. Combat-groups that simply log-off and play another game for an hour or more, are missing out on great fun. All this would be even more thrilling if insta's 'got fixed' (not that I have an answer to the insta-issue)
I totally get what you mean, I've tried it many times, and it so sucks to see local dropping in seconds. But this can only be a question of honor, as no-one should ever determine how people play this game.
So, acceptable to do it, but not honorable...
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:45:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Being specific about one party or another seems to be against the forum moderation rules of conduct. To this end I shall be non-specific. And raise a topic which I believe is important to pilots all around eve, particularly those in territory claiming entities.
And here is the question :
Is Logging off in enemy territory when cornered by enemy forces an acceptable mode of conduct? (note that the word exploit is not being used )
My view on this subject :
My personal view is that if you are going to enter enemy space you should realise that its probably a one-way ticket unless you are victorious.
My alliance often does raids into enemy territory and we do them in the full knowledge that chances of returning in one piece are slim.
Logging off in enemy territory, and specifically, using coordinated log offs and en masse, is degenerating the game, by providing get out of jail card when you have got yourself into a losing situation.
There is ofc the argument that why bother fighting if you are outnumbered and outgunned? To this I will answer, if you go into enemy territory with limited numbers expect to be outnumbered. Have some valour and stay online, or retreat. But dont circumvent game mechanics by hitting the ESC button.
N.B This thread is my own personal thread and is not meant to represent FIX in any way, I could post with an alt to ensure FIX is not involved but then the thread wouldnt be worth a hill of beans.
I agree with you on a tactical point of view, and with your views concerning mass logoffs when in enemy land, and this being a principle of honor.
In my honest opinion, logging in enemy territory is not honorable at all WHEN cornored, out-blob'd or the likes. Not meaning a day should be started and ended with your force travelling back and forth.
Running from a superior force is most exciting, especially if that force is trying everything in it's power to hunt you down. Combat-groups that simply log-off and play another game for an hour or more, are missing out on great fun. All this would be even more thrilling if insta's 'got fixed' (not that I have an answer to the insta-issue)
I totally get what you mean, I've tried it many times, and it so sucks to see local dropping in seconds. But this can only be a question of honor, as no-one should ever determine how people play this game.
So, acceptable to do it, but not honorable...
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Kujin
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:47:00 -
[123]
Originally by: NAFnist
Originally by: Nez Perces
Being specific about one party or another seems to be against the forum moderation rules of conduct. To this end I shall be non-specific. And raise a topic which I believe is important to pilots all around eve, particularly those in territory claiming entities.
And here is the question :
Is Logging off in enemy territory when cornered by enemy forces an acceptable mode of conduct? (note that the word exploit is not being used )
My view on this subject :
My personal view is that if you are going to enter enemy space you should realise that its probably a one-way ticket unless you are victorious.
My alliance often does raids into enemy territory and we do them in the full knowledge that chances of returning in one piece are slim.
Logging off in enemy territory, and specifically, using coordinated log offs and en masse, is degenerating the game, by providing get out of jail card when you have got yourself into a losing situation.
There is ofc the argument that why bother fighting if you are outnumbered and outgunned? To this I will answer, if you go into enemy territory with limited numbers expect to be outnumbered. Have some valour and stay online, or retreat. But dont circumvent game mechanics by hitting the ESC button.
N.B This thread is my own personal thread and is not meant to represent FIX in any way, I could post with an alt to ensure FIX is not involved but then the thread wouldnt be worth a hill of beans.
I agree with you on a tactical point of view, and with your views concerning mass logoffs when in enemy land, and this being a principle of honor.
In my honest opinion, logging in enemy territory is not honorable at all WHEN cornored, out-blob'd or the likes. Not meaning a day should be started and ended with your force travelling back and forth.
Running from a superior force is most exciting, especially if that force is trying everything in it's power to hunt you down. Combat-groups that simply log-off and play another game for an hour or more, are missing out on great fun. All this would be even more thrilling if insta's 'got fixed' (not that I have an answer to the insta-issue)
I totally get what you mean, I've tried it many times, and it so sucks to see local dropping in seconds. But this can only be a question of honor, as no-one should ever determine how people play this game.
So, acceptable to do it, but not honorable...
That¦s the point !!!!
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Kujin
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:47:00 -
[124]
Originally by: NAFnist
Originally by: Nez Perces
Being specific about one party or another seems to be against the forum moderation rules of conduct. To this end I shall be non-specific. And raise a topic which I believe is important to pilots all around eve, particularly those in territory claiming entities.
And here is the question :
Is Logging off in enemy territory when cornered by enemy forces an acceptable mode of conduct? (note that the word exploit is not being used )
My view on this subject :
My personal view is that if you are going to enter enemy space you should realise that its probably a one-way ticket unless you are victorious.
My alliance often does raids into enemy territory and we do them in the full knowledge that chances of returning in one piece are slim.
Logging off in enemy territory, and specifically, using coordinated log offs and en masse, is degenerating the game, by providing get out of jail card when you have got yourself into a losing situation.
There is ofc the argument that why bother fighting if you are outnumbered and outgunned? To this I will answer, if you go into enemy territory with limited numbers expect to be outnumbered. Have some valour and stay online, or retreat. But dont circumvent game mechanics by hitting the ESC button.
N.B This thread is my own personal thread and is not meant to represent FIX in any way, I could post with an alt to ensure FIX is not involved but then the thread wouldnt be worth a hill of beans.
I agree with you on a tactical point of view, and with your views concerning mass logoffs when in enemy land, and this being a principle of honor.
In my honest opinion, logging in enemy territory is not honorable at all WHEN cornored, out-blob'd or the likes. Not meaning a day should be started and ended with your force travelling back and forth.
Running from a superior force is most exciting, especially if that force is trying everything in it's power to hunt you down. Combat-groups that simply log-off and play another game for an hour or more, are missing out on great fun. All this would be even more thrilling if insta's 'got fixed' (not that I have an answer to the insta-issue)
I totally get what you mean, I've tried it many times, and it so sucks to see local dropping in seconds. But this can only be a question of honor, as no-one should ever determine how people play this game.
So, acceptable to do it, but not honorable...
That¦s the point !!!!
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:52:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Logging off in a safespot in the middle of enemy space while vastly outnumbered is totally acceptable.
In an ideal world the invaders could just wait for the right opportunity to strike or wait for re-inforcements, but in the real world, some of us have work and stuff, so 24 hour eve sessions are a rarity.
I just need to reply to this also
I would rather see people trying to escape, than logging. Oh the joy in pulling a manouver off that kills the bubbles to make the main fleet escape. Things like that make me all fuzzy
But ofcause I agree with you. Everyone plays to have fun, and its no fun to get killed without standing a chance.
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NAFnist
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:52:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
Logging off in a safespot in the middle of enemy space while vastly outnumbered is totally acceptable.
In an ideal world the invaders could just wait for the right opportunity to strike or wait for re-inforcements, but in the real world, some of us have work and stuff, so 24 hour eve sessions are a rarity.
I just need to reply to this also
I would rather see people trying to escape, than logging. Oh the joy in pulling a manouver off that kills the bubbles to make the main fleet escape. Things like that make me all fuzzy
But ofcause I agree with you. Everyone plays to have fun, and its no fun to get killed without standing a chance.
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Fredbob
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:57:00 -
[127]
-My posts are the opinion of myself only-
I agree with NAFnist, while a 10-pilot group in enemy territory all logging for their tea sure isn't honourable, it's not a breach of rules.. Fair enough neither party gets much out of it if one side decides to dissapear when they all happen get hungry at once, but honour is not for everyone. For the time being, those that fleet-log (notice no names ) are not breaking any rules, but personally I don't consider it anywhere near "an acceptable code of conduct", which was of course the question raised by this thread.
I will say one other thing, a couple of corps attacking an ALLIANCE in THEIR territory then complaining about uneven numbers is rather like buying a dog then complaining when it doesn't lay eggs..
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~Fredbob~
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Fredbob
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Posted - 2005.06.04 09:57:00 -
[128]
-My posts are the opinion of myself only-
I agree with NAFnist, while a 10-pilot group in enemy territory all logging for their tea sure isn't honourable, it's not a breach of rules.. Fair enough neither party gets much out of it if one side decides to dissapear when they all happen get hungry at once, but honour is not for everyone. For the time being, those that fleet-log (notice no names ) are not breaking any rules, but personally I don't consider it anywhere near "an acceptable code of conduct", which was of course the question raised by this thread.
I will say one other thing, a couple of corps attacking an ALLIANCE in THEIR territory then complaining about uneven numbers is rather like buying a dog then complaining when it doesn't lay eggs..
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~Fredbob~
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SinBin
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Posted - 2005.06.04 10:14:00 -
[129]
Edited by: SinBin on 04/06/2005 10:29:15
" I haven't taken the time to read the entire thread. It's funny when you bust a SS and all of a sudden all three Battleships suddenly have a CTD at the SAME time. "
You didnt read the first post let alnoe any other, the post is about logging at ya safe or in enermy territory, it lacks detail you could be many jumps from the blobs or just going to bed & the post has every top name saying offcorse thats normal.
As others have said your only hurting ya self & respect of others with this kind of junk, go fly 20-30 jumps your self & save time to blob counter blob maybe fight & make it home all of you in 1 sitting.
Ill update my sig for my first forum kill but I was happy to let npc have it around page 4. hmm you got lucky sig are is to small for details & i preffer my other bit. You also got a mining barge & worse still a pod kill here & thats punishment enough for anyone.
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Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Maybe end the election round will do it ?
& could save hundred of Users & Mods pain. |
SinBin
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Posted - 2005.06.04 10:14:00 -
[130]
Edited by: SinBin on 04/06/2005 10:29:15
" I haven't taken the time to read the entire thread. It's funny when you bust a SS and all of a sudden all three Battleships suddenly have a CTD at the SAME time. "
You didnt read the first post let alnoe any other, the post is about logging at ya safe or in enermy territory, it lacks detail you could be many jumps from the blobs or just going to bed & the post has every top name saying offcorse thats normal.
As others have said your only hurting ya self & respect of others with this kind of junk, go fly 20-30 jumps your self & save time to blob counter blob maybe fight & make it home all of you in 1 sitting.
Ill update my sig for my first forum kill but I was happy to let npc have it around page 4. hmm you got lucky sig are is to small for details & i preffer my other bit. You also got a mining barge & worse still a pod kill here & thats punishment enough for anyone.
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Ill Shutup when CCP remove bookmarks
Maybe end the election round will do it ?
& could save hundred of Users & Mods pain. |
deela
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Posted - 2005.06.04 10:28:00 -
[131]
Edited by: deela on 04/06/2005 10:28:45
Hey Ive engaged teh Blob thx.
2005.05.28 20:58:00
Victim: deela
Corporation: MASS
Destroyed Type: Scorpion
Solar System: 9CG6-H
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Mr Portamento (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Corporation: Arcane Industries
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Mega Beam Laser II
Name: Mindlles
Security Status: -0.1
Corporation: ASUYA Inc
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Marko Debreault
Security Status: 2.4
Corporation: Zone 5
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Bor'rak
Security Status: 5.1
Corporation: The Council
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Adam Dartnell
Security Status: 2.9
Corporation: Elite Storm Enterprises
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: SpaceGhost
Security Status: 5.0
Corporation: Obsidian Asylum
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: StanM
Security Status: 3.2
Corporation: Arcane Industries
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Lord Sidon
Security Status: 4.4
Corporation: Classified
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Idaho
Security Status: 5.0
Corporation: J.H.E.N.R
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Igor Vertus
Security Status: 0.9
Corporation: Arcane Industries
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: El Darto
Security Status: 2.9
Corporation: Legionari
Ship Type: Dominix
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Kyrie Allayson
Security Status: 2.8
Corporation: DAB
Ship Type: Malediction
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Heraklitus Nomidzon
Security Status: 3.5
Corporation: Eternity Inc
Ship Type: Harpy
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Captain Nimrod
Security Status: -1.2
Corporation: ASUYA Inc
Ship Type: Crusader
Weapon Type: Unknown
Oh there was only 3 mass pilots in system at the time.
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deela
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Posted - 2005.06.04 10:28:00 -
[132]
Edited by: deela on 04/06/2005 10:28:45
Hey Ive engaged teh Blob thx.
2005.05.28 20:58:00
Victim: deela
Corporation: MASS
Destroyed Type: Scorpion
Solar System: 9CG6-H
System Security Level: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Mr Portamento (laid the final blow)
Security Status: 5.0
Corporation: Arcane Industries
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Mega Beam Laser II
Name: Mindlles
Security Status: -0.1
Corporation: ASUYA Inc
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Marko Debreault
Security Status: 2.4
Corporation: Zone 5
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Bor'rak
Security Status: 5.1
Corporation: The Council
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Adam Dartnell
Security Status: 2.9
Corporation: Elite Storm Enterprises
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: SpaceGhost
Security Status: 5.0
Corporation: Obsidian Asylum
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: StanM
Security Status: 3.2
Corporation: Arcane Industries
Ship Type: Megathron
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Lord Sidon
Security Status: 4.4
Corporation: Classified
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Idaho
Security Status: 5.0
Corporation: J.H.E.N.R
Ship Type: Armageddon
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Igor Vertus
Security Status: 0.9
Corporation: Arcane Industries
Ship Type: Apocalypse
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: El Darto
Security Status: 2.9
Corporation: Legionari
Ship Type: Dominix
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Kyrie Allayson
Security Status: 2.8
Corporation: DAB
Ship Type: Malediction
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Heraklitus Nomidzon
Security Status: 3.5
Corporation: Eternity Inc
Ship Type: Harpy
Weapon Type: Unknown
Name: Captain Nimrod
Security Status: -1.2
Corporation: ASUYA Inc
Ship Type: Crusader
Weapon Type: Unknown
Oh there was only 3 mass pilots in system at the time.
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.06.04 10:31:00 -
[133]
although this thread is already far beyond its end.. here my 2 cents..
get some tranquilizers nez...
i admit our tactics arent nice... but cant help u there
YOU made us do this!
If u thought we could bring another 150-man-gang to have the OMG-server-CHRASHES-fleet-battle, then perhaps ur abacus needs new batteries or ur intelligence-agency isnt working that fine...
about the log-off... u know in fact it¦s very realistic to expect a outnumbered/outgunned group of partisans to hide in holes and sneak out when they see a chance.. once again, yea it¦s not nice but deal now with the things u¦ve started, perhaps u just made a fault and dont want to admit it ;)
tbh i¦m looking forward to have some nice fleetbattles against u guys again cuz i enjoyed it, but dont expect us to do that when u want to..
all i hear u saying is the one with more numbers has to rule a region - tactics dont matter.. BUT it¦s just ur tactic that doesnt work that¦s all..
grad out.
(eww.. back from daily frig-race through querious :))
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Gradinger
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Posted - 2005.06.04 10:31:00 -
[134]
although this thread is already far beyond its end.. here my 2 cents..
get some tranquilizers nez...
i admit our tactics arent nice... but cant help u there
YOU made us do this!
If u thought we could bring another 150-man-gang to have the OMG-server-CHRASHES-fleet-battle, then perhaps ur abacus needs new batteries or ur intelligence-agency isnt working that fine...
about the log-off... u know in fact it¦s very realistic to expect a outnumbered/outgunned group of partisans to hide in holes and sneak out when they see a chance.. once again, yea it¦s not nice but deal now with the things u¦ve started, perhaps u just made a fault and dont want to admit it ;)
tbh i¦m looking forward to have some nice fleetbattles against u guys again cuz i enjoyed it, but dont expect us to do that when u want to..
all i hear u saying is the one with more numbers has to rule a region - tactics dont matter.. BUT it¦s just ur tactic that doesnt work that¦s all..
grad out.
(eww.. back from daily frig-race through querious :))
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.06.04 10:34:00 -
[135]
Wow..6 pages added since I went to sleep
It all comes down to that different people play the game in different ways. When a FIX pilots logs off to save his ship, trust me, he hears about it. I have never and will never tell our pilots to log off, I don¦t care in what spot we happened to get ourselves into. As for what unleashed said, I lost my bs u know, I also instajumped out of the system
FIX has been spoiled with some good fun over the past months, so clearly, we feel a weee bit frustrated over the lack of engagements atm. However, if the guerilla tactics you use atm is the best way for you to achive your goals, then by all means, they are what you should be using.
I will however forever get royaly ****ed off when people open convoes to make their opponents miss jumps (yes, I know autoreject is invented), log off IN combat etc. I don¦t care what side does it. I also want to know if any FIX pilots does infact do any of the above.
Having said all this, let¦s just drop it. The forums shapes a bubble of public opinion for sure, however, at the end of the day, public opinions wont take a station, wont kill your ship and wont win you a fleet battle.
FIX, let¦s settle things ingame, like we always do. Coalition, please join us, let¦s have some fun
Regards
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.06.04 10:34:00 -
[136]
Wow..6 pages added since I went to sleep
It all comes down to that different people play the game in different ways. When a FIX pilots logs off to save his ship, trust me, he hears about it. I have never and will never tell our pilots to log off, I don¦t care in what spot we happened to get ourselves into. As for what unleashed said, I lost my bs u know, I also instajumped out of the system
FIX has been spoiled with some good fun over the past months, so clearly, we feel a weee bit frustrated over the lack of engagements atm. However, if the guerilla tactics you use atm is the best way for you to achive your goals, then by all means, they are what you should be using.
I will however forever get royaly ****ed off when people open convoes to make their opponents miss jumps (yes, I know autoreject is invented), log off IN combat etc. I don¦t care what side does it. I also want to know if any FIX pilots does infact do any of the above.
Having said all this, let¦s just drop it. The forums shapes a bubble of public opinion for sure, however, at the end of the day, public opinions wont take a station, wont kill your ship and wont win you a fleet battle.
FIX, let¦s settle things ingame, like we always do. Coalition, please join us, let¦s have some fun
Regards
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 10:56:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Boldyn
I will however forever get royaly ****ed off when people open convoes to make their opponents miss jumps (yes, I know autoreject is invented), log off IN combat etc. I don¦t care what side does it. I also want to know if any FIX pilots does infact do any of the above.
If anyone in MASS is guilty of these type of tactics then let us know immediately. This type of behaviour isn't tolerated and usually ends with them being booted with the almighty 20 inch boot of thebold.
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 10:56:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Boldyn
I will however forever get royaly ****ed off when people open convoes to make their opponents miss jumps (yes, I know autoreject is invented), log off IN combat etc. I don¦t care what side does it. I also want to know if any FIX pilots does infact do any of the above.
If anyone in MASS is guilty of these type of tactics then let us know immediately. This type of behaviour isn't tolerated and usually ends with them being booted with the almighty 20 inch boot of thebold.
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zincol
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:02:00 -
[139]
I've always said that logging should leave ure ship inspace so why not fit a cloaking device to hide ure ship when u log off? the only dis advantage of this is some 1 who looses connecttion/CTD but this would stop alot of log offs.
It really does seem more pilots log when they see enemy in system,get shot,locked down what ever its stupid.
TBH how can a ship just vanish ^^ i wouldnt mind fittin a cloakin device activate it then log leaving u cloaked till you log on again,but then again thats just my thoughts.
Im sure there will be many more posts about this sorta thing to come.
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zincol
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:02:00 -
[140]
I've always said that logging should leave ure ship inspace so why not fit a cloaking device to hide ure ship when u log off? the only dis advantage of this is some 1 who looses connecttion/CTD but this would stop alot of log offs.
It really does seem more pilots log when they see enemy in system,get shot,locked down what ever its stupid.
TBH how can a ship just vanish ^^ i wouldnt mind fittin a cloakin device activate it then log leaving u cloaked till you log on again,but then again thats just my thoughts.
Im sure there will be many more posts about this sorta thing to come.
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azrael211
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:07:00 -
[141]
Edited by: azrael211 on 04/06/2005 11:07:13
Originally by: Boldyn
so clearly, we feel a weee bit frustrated over the lack of engagements atm. However, if the guerilla tactics you use atm is the best way for you to achive your goals, then by all means, they are what you should be using.
At last...in RL do a bunch of rebels blow up a convoy then hang around for re-enforcements to show up...No the go hide and then re attack the same applies in eve...if the lack of engagement is a problem then offer up fairer odds we usually fight outnumbered anyway.
Its funny the screaming starts now when Celest and other pvp corps have been running combat like this for years.
Podding is better than a 20 jump home |
azrael211
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:07:00 -
[142]
Edited by: azrael211 on 04/06/2005 11:07:13
Originally by: Boldyn
so clearly, we feel a weee bit frustrated over the lack of engagements atm. However, if the guerilla tactics you use atm is the best way for you to achive your goals, then by all means, they are what you should be using.
At last...in RL do a bunch of rebels blow up a convoy then hang around for re-enforcements to show up...No the go hide and then re attack the same applies in eve...if the lack of engagement is a problem then offer up fairer odds we usually fight outnumbered anyway.
Its funny the screaming starts now when Celest and other pvp corps have been running combat like this for years.
Podding is better than a 20 jump home |
Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:11:00 -
[143]
Oh how I dearly miss CA, they may have had more nuts than a squirrel's nest, but at least they had class... *sigh*
Allways move fast, you never know who's catching up!
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:11:00 -
[144]
Oh how I dearly miss CA, they may have had more nuts than a squirrel's nest, but at least they had class... *sigh*
Allways move fast, you never know who's catching up!
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:11:00 -
[145]
Edited by: thebold on 04/06/2005 11:18:49
boldyn just give nez a tech2 tissue for me please then boot him out of fix would make my day hes just a miner not a fighter.
i actually took 5 mins to read the post on the first page by nez, turns out no one has done this to fix before. i suppose you just have to learn to deal with it nez you wont be able to mine for the next few months at least... there nez there there.
o edit boldyn your fix members are taking nez as a example so you might want sort that out because if nez is your diplomat then your public image is going down the pan a bit :/
MASS has nothing to loose on these forums because our actions in the game are what count and we all know this.
And if you catch my members smacking you send me the chat logs etc..
Sinjin didnt log the other day he knows how to fight and was pre-aligned etc there is no reason to log when all you do is hit a bm a pathetic stab attempt by fix there, i say fix because after all Nez is your diplomat, his actions represent your entire alliance.
You need to sort out Djnme because that guy starts smacking local the moment a mass guy jumps in the hate is laughable :)
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We do the Blowing up thingy |
thebold
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:11:00 -
[146]
Edited by: thebold on 04/06/2005 11:18:49
boldyn just give nez a tech2 tissue for me please then boot him out of fix would make my day hes just a miner not a fighter.
i actually took 5 mins to read the post on the first page by nez, turns out no one has done this to fix before. i suppose you just have to learn to deal with it nez you wont be able to mine for the next few months at least... there nez there there.
o edit boldyn your fix members are taking nez as a example so you might want sort that out because if nez is your diplomat then your public image is going down the pan a bit :/
MASS has nothing to loose on these forums because our actions in the game are what count and we all know this.
And if you catch my members smacking you send me the chat logs etc..
Sinjin didnt log the other day he knows how to fight and was pre-aligned etc there is no reason to log when all you do is hit a bm a pathetic stab attempt by fix there, i say fix because after all Nez is your diplomat, his actions represent your entire alliance.
You need to sort out Djnme because that guy starts smacking local the moment a mass guy jumps in the hate is laughable :)
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We do the Blowing up thingy |
Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:19:00 -
[147]
Nez isn¦t going anywhere, and for one sure can¦t kick him anywhere He has done more for FIX then most. He ofc, as the rest of us, have our days when frustration feels bad. Look at some of my posts, I havn¦t been all that fun to read myself 
He had a valid point, with the original message of this post, that had to do with talking about game mechanics. Naturally, it would turn into a flamewar, this is after all EVE No one blamed here btw.
Well, I think I maxed out my lines to use/week here, so I will stfu now
Regards
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Boldyn
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:19:00 -
[148]
Nez isn¦t going anywhere, and for one sure can¦t kick him anywhere He has done more for FIX then most. He ofc, as the rest of us, have our days when frustration feels bad. Look at some of my posts, I havn¦t been all that fun to read myself
He had a valid point, with the original message of this post, that had to do with talking about game mechanics. Naturally, it would turn into a flamewar, this is after all EVE No one blamed here btw.
Well, I think I maxed out my lines to use/week here, so I will stfu now
Regards
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thebold
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:20:00 -
[149]
o edit boldyn your fix members are taking nez as a example so you might want sort that out because if nez is your diplomat then your public image is going down the pan a bit :/
MASS has nothing to loose on these forums because our actions in the game are what count and we all know this.
And if you catch my members smacking you send me the chat logs etc..
Sinjin didnt log the other day he knows how to fight and was pre-aligned etc there is no reason to log when all you do is hit a bm a pathetic stab attempt by fix there, i say fix because after all Nez is your diplomat, his actions represent your entire alliance.
You need to sort out Djnme because that guy starts smacking local the moment a mass guy jumps in the hate is laughable :)
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We do the Blowing up thingy |
thebold
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:20:00 -
[150]
o edit boldyn your fix members are taking nez as a example so you might want sort that out because if nez is your diplomat then your public image is going down the pan a bit :/
MASS has nothing to loose on these forums because our actions in the game are what count and we all know this.
And if you catch my members smacking you send me the chat logs etc..
Sinjin didnt log the other day he knows how to fight and was pre-aligned etc there is no reason to log when all you do is hit a bm a pathetic stab attempt by fix there, i say fix because after all Nez is your diplomat, his actions represent your entire alliance.
You need to sort out Djnme because that guy starts smacking local the moment a mass guy jumps in the hate is laughable :)
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We do the Blowing up thingy |
FileCop AI
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:42:00 -
[151]
heh, only have one thing to say:
Not all of us can sit online in average 10-12 hours a day, as I've seen many FIX do. Sorry, but some of us are actually older than 12, and therefore have RL responsibilities and therefore limited gametime.
FileCop AI of MASS
Co-CEO |
FileCop AI
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:42:00 -
[152]
heh, only have one thing to say:
Not all of us can sit online in average 10-12 hours a day, as I've seen many FIX do. Sorry, but some of us are actually older than 12, and therefore have RL responsibilities and therefore limited gametime.
FileCop AI of MASS
Co-CEO |
Dak T'kal
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:46:00 -
[153]
Originally by: FileCop AI
heh, only have one thing to say:
Not all of us can sit online in average 10-12 hours a day, as I've seen many FIX do. Sorry, but some of us are actually older than 12, and therefore have RL responsibilities and therefore limited gametime.
so logging off in a batle is ok then??
Jeez its a game if u wanna go to enemy space then ffs stay online...
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-= Kvitter Fnitter SmÕ Fnask Med Glitter =- |
Dak T'kal
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:46:00 -
[154]
Originally by: FileCop AI
heh, only have one thing to say:
Not all of us can sit online in average 10-12 hours a day, as I've seen many FIX do. Sorry, but some of us are actually older than 12, and therefore have RL responsibilities and therefore limited gametime.
so logging off in a batle is ok then??
Jeez its a game if u wanna go to enemy space then ffs stay online...
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-= Kvitter Fnitter SmÕ Fnask Med Glitter =- |
Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:48:00 -
[155]
Originally by: FileCop AI
heh, only have one thing to say:
Not all of us can sit online in average 10-12 hours a day, as I've seen many FIX do. Sorry, but some of us are actually older than 12, and therefore have RL responsibilities and therefore limited gametime.
This hasent been the subject has it?
the subject has been that u dont want to fight if its even numbers even, u logg as soon even numbers enter sys..
Sure u have thebold, and if he leads u guys u have no choise then to fight, "gf before dt". but still..
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:48:00 -
[156]
Originally by: FileCop AI
heh, only have one thing to say:
Not all of us can sit online in average 10-12 hours a day, as I've seen many FIX do. Sorry, but some of us are actually older than 12, and therefore have RL responsibilities and therefore limited gametime.
This hasent been the subject has it?
the subject has been that u dont want to fight if its even numbers even, u logg as soon even numbers enter sys..
Sure u have thebold, and if he leads u guys u have no choise then to fight, "gf before dt". but still..
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Omeega
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:54:00 -
[157]
I can't realy judge FIX but the day we went in FAT- to have a BBQ with The Coallition, we were only 10 battleships against ~20bs's (FIX) staying at their POS. I'd prefer seeing you guys log than staying in the system showing us the proof (only for that time) that you don't want to come out of your POS and fight.
My typing errors do not reflect my alliance corpmate's writing skill.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3... |
Omeega
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Posted - 2005.06.04 11:54:00 -
[158]
I can't realy judge FIX but the day we went in FAT- to have a BBQ with The Coallition, we were only 10 battleships against ~20bs's (FIX) staying at their POS. I'd prefer seeing you guys log than staying in the system showing us the proof (only for that time) that you don't want to come out of your POS and fight.
My typing errors do not reflect my alliance corpmate's writing skill.
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3... |
Avernus
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Posted - 2005.06.04 12:30:00 -
[159]
My first and last post in this thread.
Deal with it in-game, nothing is going to be solved here on this matter.
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Avernus
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Posted - 2005.06.04 12:30:00 -
[160]
My first and last post in this thread.
Deal with it in-game, nothing is going to be solved here on this matter.
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Lord Sidon
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Posted - 2005.06.04 12:45:00 -
[161]
all i have to say is in this song
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
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Lord Sidon
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Posted - 2005.06.04 12:45:00 -
[162]
all i have to say is in this song
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
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SuperMarine
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Posted - 2005.06.04 13:15:00 -
[163]
sounds like nez needs a tissue
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SuperMarine
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Posted - 2005.06.04 13:15:00 -
[164]
sounds like nez needs a tissue
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Konzul Proutek
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Posted - 2005.06.04 13:43:00 -
[165]
All Coalition members plz stop posting. This is pointless and nothing is being accomplished. Lets just agree to disagree and get on with it.
BTW If ANY coalition members uses convos or gang invites during combat to lag out a fix member PLZ let us know about it and they will be delt with ASAP!
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Konzul Proutek
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Posted - 2005.06.04 13:43:00 -
[166]
All Coalition members plz stop posting. This is pointless and nothing is being accomplished. Lets just agree to disagree and get on with it.
BTW If ANY coalition members uses convos or gang invites during combat to lag out a fix member PLZ let us know about it and they will be delt with ASAP!
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Duke North
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Posted - 2005.06.04 14:00:00 -
[167]
Nec the crying baby
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Duke North
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Posted - 2005.06.04 14:00:00 -
[168]
Nec the crying baby
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Khonn
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Posted - 2005.06.04 14:16:00 -
[169]
I would just like to add that we are not at a SS. We do infact log off at a POS in FAT, for the record. And nobody that I know of logs off in battle from our corp, ever.
But this whole thread kind of reminds me of a story.
This little bird was too small to fly south for the winter, so he ended up staying in the cold and it started to snow. The little bird got so cold. A cow walked up to the bird as asked what was wrong and the bird replied "I am so cold." So the cow said that he could FIX this, lol(just thought of that little pun, sorry) and proceeded to take a crap on the little bird.
Within seconds the warm crap made the bird feel so good that he started to sing. As the bird was singing, a cat approached and pulled the bird out of the pile and ate him.
The moral of the story is:
Someone that craps on you isn't necesarily your enemy, and someone that gets you out of crap isn't necessarily your friend. But, when you are neck deep in crap, maybe it's just better to keep your mouth shut.
Khonn
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Khonn
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Posted - 2005.06.04 14:16:00 -
[170]
I would just like to add that we are not at a SS. We do infact log off at a POS in FAT, for the record. And nobody that I know of logs off in battle from our corp, ever.
But this whole thread kind of reminds me of a story.
This little bird was too small to fly south for the winter, so he ended up staying in the cold and it started to snow. The little bird got so cold. A cow walked up to the bird as asked what was wrong and the bird replied "I am so cold." So the cow said that he could FIX this, lol(just thought of that little pun, sorry) and proceeded to take a crap on the little bird.
Within seconds the warm crap made the bird feel so good that he started to sing. As the bird was singing, a cat approached and pulled the bird out of the pile and ate him.
The moral of the story is:
Someone that craps on you isn't necesarily your enemy, and someone that gets you out of crap isn't necessarily your friend. But, when you are neck deep in crap, maybe it's just better to keep your mouth shut.
Khonn
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Anglo
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Posted - 2005.06.04 15:16:00 -
[171]
my opinion....
all i really need to say...
in l0ve and war :) some suck some dont. but if its not an officiel exploit then wtf.. why not use it then ?? for hounour ?? well a bs cost more than my huonour.. the gam is about fun its not fun to loose a bs.... but hey thats just my opinion..
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Anglo
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Posted - 2005.06.04 15:16:00 -
[172]
my opinion....
all i really need to say...
in l0ve and war :) some suck some dont. but if its not an officiel exploit then wtf.. why not use it then ?? for hounour ?? well a bs cost more than my huonour.. the gam is about fun its not fun to loose a bs.... but hey thats just my opinion..
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Boba Hunter
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Posted - 2005.06.04 15:41:00 -
[173]
Belive ot or not Nez your my toy!
Here is a foto of the biggest popo of EVE!
http://nordhald.dk/corps.JPG
If you what it back you bether convo me.
Boba Hunter
Image changed to link, don't post images directly. -Capsicum
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Boba Hunter
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Posted - 2005.06.04 15:41:00 -
[174]
Belive ot or not Nez your my toy!
Here is a foto of the biggest popo of EVE!
http://nordhald.dk/corps.JPG
If you what it back you bether convo me.
Boba Hunter
Image changed to link, don't post images directly. -Capsicum
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 15:47:00 -
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Originally by: Findail
Man, hasn't this thread degenerated quickly....
First off, I'd like to give credit where it's due.
I was one of the pilots that came up against Shivan in FAT, and all I can say is he's a real credit to his corp. A good fighter, and a gracious loser. Good fight mate.
Thank you for the shout out. Was a good fight on your part as well, even if it was 6-2,
cant beleave you got your tempest out either
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(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 15:47:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Findail
Man, hasn't this thread degenerated quickly....
First off, I'd like to give credit where it's due.
I was one of the pilots that came up against Shivan in FAT, and all I can say is he's a real credit to his corp. A good fighter, and a gracious loser. Good fight mate.
Thank you for the shout out. Was a good fight on your part as well, even if it was 6-2,
cant beleave you got your tempest out either
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(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 15:48:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Lord Sidon
all i have to say is in this song
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
thats my song, i posted in general disuccion
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(O.o)
(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.06.04 15:48:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Lord Sidon
all i have to say is in this song
http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/llama.php
thats my song, i posted in general disuccion
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(O.o)
(> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2005.06.04 15:53:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Raid
Edited by: Raid on 04/06/2005 02:19:10
Originally by: Crzycnck2
I haven't taken the time to read the entire thread. It's funny when you bust a SS and all of a sudden all three Battleships suddenly have a CTD at the SAME time.
As for fighting with even numbers.. that wouldn't matter.. we could show up in 10 haulers and they would still log off. We all know who we are talking about. All you guys can do is log off because your fighting ability is pathetic. You guys say you good at pvp.. so you jump in with 20+ ships to gank an NPCer.. good on ya. but if it were 20 FIX pvper you guys would have massed logged.
not sure how you think this will get your station back with these lame tactics. grow some and bring it like you have said you would.. so far we have seen nothing more than a bunch of scared little kids
You sir, have no idea what your talking about... Go back to the comfort of your blob. You have taken the time to read this thread but you have no idea who your talking about.
Ohhh but I do know what I'm talking about. as for blobing, you guys are just a bunch of cry babies cuz you can't match FIX. you talk to the talk but you can't even crawl. You guys need to take a page from BNC/RKK's book.
**FIX FTW** |
Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2005.06.04 15:53:00 -
[180]
Originally by: Raid
Edited by: Raid on 04/06/2005 02:19:10
Originally by: Crzycnck2
I haven't taken the time to read the entire thread. It's funny when you bust a SS and all of a sudden all three Battleships suddenly have a CTD at the SAME time.
As for fighting with even numbers.. that wouldn't matter.. we could show up in 10 haulers and they would still log off. We all know who we are talking about. All you guys can do is log off because your fighting ability is pathetic. You guys say you good at pvp.. so you jump in with 20+ ships to gank an NPCer.. good on ya. but if it were 20 FIX pvper you guys would have massed logged.
not sure how you think this will get your station back with these lame tactics. grow some and bring it like you have said you would.. so far we have seen nothing more than a bunch of scared little kids
You sir, have no idea what your talking about... Go back to the comfort of your blob. You have taken the time to read this thread but you have no idea who your talking about.
Ohhh but I do know what I'm talking about. as for blobing, you guys are just a bunch of cry babies cuz you can't match FIX. you talk to the talk but you can't even crawl. You guys need to take a page from BNC/RKK's book.
**FIX FTW** |
Ukiah
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Posted - 2005.06.04 16:55:00 -
[181]
Originally by: Konzul Proutek
All Coalition members plz stop posting. This is pointless and nothing is being accomplished. Lets just agree to disagree and get on with it.
BTW If ANY coalition members uses convos or gang invites during combat to lag out a fix member PLZ let us know about it and they will be delt with ASAP!
Originally by: Boldyn
Wow..6 pages added since I went to sleep
It all comes down to that different people play the game in different ways. When a FIX pilots logs off to save his ship, trust me, he hears about it. I have never and will never tell our pilots to log off, I don¦t care in what spot we happened to get ourselves into. As for what unleashed said, I lost my bs u know, I also instajumped out of the system
FIX has been spoiled with some good fun over the past months, so clearly, we feel a weee bit frustrated over the lack of engagements atm. However, if the guerilla tactics you use atm is the best way for you to achive your goals, then by all means, they are what you should be using.
I will however forever get royaly ****ed off when people open convoes to make their opponents miss jumps (yes, I know autoreject is invented), log off IN combat etc. I don¦t care what side does it. I also want to know if any FIX pilots does infact do any of the above.
Having said all this, let¦s just drop it. The forums shapes a bubble of public opinion for sure, however, at the end of the day, public opinions wont take a station, wont kill your ship and wont win you a fleet battle.
FIX, let¦s settle things ingame, like we always do. Coalition, please join us, let¦s have some fun
Regards
This thread should have been over after these two posts. I'd suggest a mod lock it. And please, can both sides agree to settle this in game?
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Ukiah
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Posted - 2005.06.04 16:55:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Konzul Proutek
All Coalition members plz stop posting. This is pointless and nothing is being accomplished. Lets just agree to disagree and get on with it.
BTW If ANY coalition members uses convos or gang invites during combat to lag out a fix member PLZ let us know about it and they will be delt with ASAP!
Originally by: Boldyn
Wow..6 pages added since I went to sleep
It all comes down to that different people play the game in different ways. When a FIX pilots logs off to save his ship, trust me, he hears about it. I have never and will never tell our pilots to log off, I don¦t care in what spot we happened to get ourselves into. As for what unleashed said, I lost my bs u know, I also instajumped out of the system
FIX has been spoiled with some good fun over the past months, so clearly, we feel a weee bit frustrated over the lack of engagements atm. However, if the guerilla tactics you use atm is the best way for you to achive your goals, then by all means, they are what you should be using.
I will however forever get royaly ****ed off when people open convoes to make their opponents miss jumps (yes, I know autoreject is invented), log off IN combat etc. I don¦t care what side does it. I also want to know if any FIX pilots does infact do any of the above.
Having said all this, let¦s just drop it. The forums shapes a bubble of public opinion for sure, however, at the end of the day, public opinions wont take a station, wont kill your ship and wont win you a fleet battle.
FIX, let¦s settle things ingame, like we always do. Coalition, please join us, let¦s have some fun
Regards
This thread should have been over after these two posts. I'd suggest a mod lock it. And please, can both sides agree to settle this in game?
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.04 17:02:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Uggs386
Logging off in enemy space is a very strategic play. Imo it is very smart of the invaders. reason being no warning of when you will be attacking. if you simply move down to the claimed space you will most likely be spotted and the inhabitants warned. but If you log on you have a good chance of killing a few before the warnings are sent out. just my opinion I personalyl dont think its an exploit, because if invaders want to take over the space they will have to log in that space.
I hope you are not a fleet commander for your corp, I know for a fact not a single FIX pilot would fly under those conditions, i.e using the ESC button to circumvent game mechanics.
If there is a log-on log-off 101 manual out there, somebody please burn it before a whole generation of eve thinks what was described in the above post is smart tactics. Its lame tactics there is a big difference....!!!
Actually I am a fleet commander, and yes I will tell my fleet to log off at a safe spot if we are trapped ina system i for one would rather be doing something else than sitting in a safe spot. Most of the time you can log back on in 20 mins and most the fleet has dissappeared. Not to mention people will be deterred from joining the fleet again because they figure that we will just go to ss again and log, which means we can usually stay on and fight since the numbers wont be so outrageous. But then again most of the time we use ceptor squads so I dont have to worry about this.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.04 17:02:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Nez Perces
Originally by: Uggs386
Logging off in enemy space is a very strategic play. Imo it is very smart of the invaders. reason being no warning of when you will be attacking. if you simply move down to the claimed space you will most likely be spotted and the inhabitants warned. but If you log on you have a good chance of killing a few before the warnings are sent out. just my opinion I personalyl dont think its an exploit, because if invaders want to take over the space they will have to log in that space.
I hope you are not a fleet commander for your corp, I know for a fact not a single FIX pilot would fly under those conditions, i.e using the ESC button to circumvent game mechanics.
If there is a log-on log-off 101 manual out there, somebody please burn it before a whole generation of eve thinks what was described in the above post is smart tactics. Its lame tactics there is a big difference....!!!
Actually I am a fleet commander, and yes I will tell my fleet to log off at a safe spot if we are trapped ina system i for one would rather be doing something else than sitting in a safe spot. Most of the time you can log back on in 20 mins and most the fleet has dissappeared. Not to mention people will be deterred from joining the fleet again because they figure that we will just go to ss again and log, which means we can usually stay on and fight since the numbers wont be so outrageous. But then again most of the time we use ceptor squads so I dont have to worry about this.
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Boba Hunter
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Posted - 2005.06.04 18:00:00 -
[185]
Originally by: RacerX1
WTB: Coalition pilot with some ball...
personal opinion here, logging and ss's should have a set of skills that go with them, which effect the timing ect..
I do a 1 vs 1 whit you eny time dude. Do you got the ball's? Or do you stik to your blob fleet?
Boba Hunter
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Boba Hunter
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Posted - 2005.06.04 18:00:00 -
[186]
Originally by: RacerX1
WTB: Coalition pilot with some ball...
personal opinion here, logging and ss's should have a set of skills that go with them, which effect the timing ect..
I do a 1 vs 1 whit you eny time dude. Do you got the ball's? Or do you stik to your blob fleet?
Boba Hunter
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.04 18:15:00 -
[187]
boba u start whit saying - if u enter our space we will kill u guys, we have crushed alliance before,
Then we go into ur space, gank u at ss, kill u again. Then u go to eve-o and says all pirats come and help becouse getting pwnd.. plz help.. This is whitout a singel smack word from a singel fix pilot.
Then u send someone a mail saying, ohh its so bad for us, we never done fix annything, bla bla bla,
Fact is, u guys asked a fix pilot why he didnt logg when u got him scrambled, u send mail saying thx for that repair and so on. U also convod him 3 times when ur gank fleet enter system and so on.
Ok i know u guys suck bad, but comeone, learn to play this game, learn to fight. And dont cry as soon we kill u okey ?
**Note - this isnt for all the pilots whitin coalliton, u have good fighters that hits hard and good as bold, and kantar, and some other folks 2 that brings a good fight whitout smack, sad to see ur frinds have to pay for ur stuipd comments as always bubba hubba**
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.04 18:15:00 -
[188]
boba u start whit saying - if u enter our space we will kill u guys, we have crushed alliance before,
Then we go into ur space, gank u at ss, kill u again. Then u go to eve-o and says all pirats come and help becouse getting pwnd.. plz help.. This is whitout a singel smack word from a singel fix pilot.
Then u send someone a mail saying, ohh its so bad for us, we never done fix annything, bla bla bla,
Fact is, u guys asked a fix pilot why he didnt logg when u got him scrambled, u send mail saying thx for that repair and so on. U also convod him 3 times when ur gank fleet enter system and so on.
Ok i know u guys suck bad, but comeone, learn to play this game, learn to fight. And dont cry as soon we kill u okey ?
**Note - this isnt for all the pilots whitin coalliton, u have good fighters that hits hard and good as bold, and kantar, and some other folks 2 that brings a good fight whitout smack, sad to see ur frinds have to pay for ur stuipd comments as always bubba hubba**
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Boba Hunter
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Posted - 2005.06.04 18:20:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Mindlles
boba u start whit saying - if u enter our space we will kill u guys, we have crushed alliance before,
Then we go into ur space, gank u at ss, kill u again. Then u go to eve-o and says all pirats come and help becouse getting pwnd.. plz help.. This is whitout a singel smack word from a singel fix pilot.
Then u send someone a mail saying, ohh its so bad for us, we never done fix annything, bla bla bla,
Fact is, u guys asked a fix pilot why he didnt logg when u got him scrambled, u send mail saying thx for that repair and so on. U also convod him 3 times when ur gank fleet enter system and so on.
Ok i know u guys suck bad, but comeone, learn to play this game, learn to fight. And dont cry as soon we kill u okey ?
**Note - this isnt for all the pilots whitin coalliton, u have good fighters that hits hard and good as bold, and kantar, and some other folks 2 that brings a good fight whitout smack, sad to see ur frinds have to pay for ur stuipd comments as always bubba hubba**
Do you miners ect. Feel safe atm. in your own space?
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Boba Hunter
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Posted - 2005.06.04 18:20:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Mindlles
boba u start whit saying - if u enter our space we will kill u guys, we have crushed alliance before,
Then we go into ur space, gank u at ss, kill u again. Then u go to eve-o and says all pirats come and help becouse getting pwnd.. plz help.. This is whitout a singel smack word from a singel fix pilot.
Then u send someone a mail saying, ohh its so bad for us, we never done fix annything, bla bla bla,
Fact is, u guys asked a fix pilot why he didnt logg when u got him scrambled, u send mail saying thx for that repair and so on. U also convod him 3 times when ur gank fleet enter system and so on.
Ok i know u guys suck bad, but comeone, learn to play this game, learn to fight. And dont cry as soon we kill u okey ?
**Note - this isnt for all the pilots whitin coalliton, u have good fighters that hits hard and good as bold, and kantar, and some other folks 2 that brings a good fight whitout smack, sad to see ur frinds have to pay for ur stuipd comments as always bubba hubba**
Do you miners ect. Feel safe atm. in your own space?
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.04 19:00:00 -
[191]
yeah i luv the ark roids in fat =)
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.04 19:00:00 -
[192]
yeah i luv the ark roids in fat =)
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Boba Hunter
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Posted - 2005.06.04 19:12:00 -
[193]
You know that isent intaierly true!
I remember last nigth we killd a reven there! I my self wosent there.... So i canrt show you the kill mail jet. Bot i will post it here if you whan to see it. And meny more will com.
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Boba Hunter
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Posted - 2005.06.04 19:12:00 -
[194]
You know that isent intaierly true!
I remember last nigth we killd a reven there! I my self wosent there.... So i canrt show you the kill mail jet. Bot i will post it here if you whan to see it. And meny more will com.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.04 20:10:00 -
[195]
yeah u do that
If u wanna see ur own kill mails i recommand u to go to http://www.eve-fix.com/killboard or someting, or just try www.eve-fix.com and clicky on the killboard.
Oki i have to emit, i haven tmind in fat yet . Havent dared, but i guess the rest i said in a post before was thrue then =) "iknow it is, but its pretty funny seing u not say annything against it =)"
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.04 20:10:00 -
[196]
yeah u do that
If u wanna see ur own kill mails i recommand u to go to http://www.eve-fix.com/killboard or someting, or just try www.eve-fix.com and clicky on the killboard.
Oki i have to emit, i haven tmind in fat yet . Havent dared, but i guess the rest i said in a post before was thrue then =) "iknow it is, but its pretty funny seing u not say annything against it =)"
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dalman
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Posted - 2005.06.04 21:01:00 -
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Edited by: dalman on 04/06/2005 21:03:54
"Logging in enemy territory"...
Man, this thread is ***.
I 'lived' in enemy territory for like half a year, making a short run back to my home base maybe once every two weeks. I must be the worst exploiter ever.
Actually, the whole f*n discussion is ***. As CCP has implemented game mechanics that means you really can't exploit it any longer.
I would like to know if anyone complaining about the mechanics now remember when for example:
* If you logged out and back in with an alt your ship would be gone after 10 seconds.
* When there were no aggression timer, so you could dock/jump while your guns were firing.
* When there was a 10 second invulnerability time and the ship warped immediately (without having to reach 75% speed). So it was totally impossible to get a lock on anyone that didn't want to fight.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
dalman
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Posted - 2005.06.04 21:01:00 -
[198]
Edited by: dalman on 04/06/2005 21:03:54
"Logging in enemy territory"...
Man, this thread is ***.
I 'lived' in enemy territory for like half a year, making a short run back to my home base maybe once every two weeks. I must be the worst exploiter ever.
Actually, the whole f*n discussion is ***. As CCP has implemented game mechanics that means you really can't exploit it any longer.
I would like to know if anyone complaining about the mechanics now remember when for example:
* If you logged out and back in with an alt your ship would be gone after 10 seconds.
* When there were no aggression timer, so you could dock/jump while your guns were firing.
* When there was a 10 second invulnerability time and the ship warped immediately (without having to reach 75% speed). So it was totally impossible to get a lock on anyone that didn't want to fight.
M.I.A. since 2004-07-30 |
Kashre
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Posted - 2005.06.04 21:29:00 -
[199]
Edited by: Kashre on 04/06/2005 21:31:19
OMG this thread is 10 pages of idiocy. Im starting to be embarrased for FIX and Coalition.
Seriously FIX people, I have IT members who are actually contemplating leaving IT to find something involving less smack to do with their time.
And you coalition people arent all smelling like roses either.
I dont belive that Coalition forces log in combat as a matter of course, aside from inevitable CTDs.
And FIX doesnt "blob". We do have a high PvPer density and we are a defensive alliance, so anywhere in FIX claimed territory you'll find a lot of people who are bored and come running when they hear there is a target. BNC never complained about getting burried under 3-1 odds, maybe you could try and be as cool as they are. :P
I dont belive myself that there is really anything wrong with logging in enemy territory. And I dont belive it should matter to any of us if they do. Its not like we dont always have hostiles of one type or another running around, so who cares? They log on, we'll kill em or be killed by em. Thats how it works. If someone doesnt like it they shouldnt be in a 0.0 alliance.
All you people just need to shut it, and someone needs to lock this thread.
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Kashre
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Posted - 2005.06.04 21:29:00 -
[200]
Edited by: Kashre on 04/06/2005 21:31:19
OMG this thread is 10 pages of idiocy. Im starting to be embarrased for FIX and Coalition.
Seriously FIX people, I have IT members who are actually contemplating leaving IT to find something involving less smack to do with their time.
And you coalition people arent all smelling like roses either.
I dont belive that Coalition forces log in combat as a matter of course, aside from inevitable CTDs.
And FIX doesnt "blob". We do have a high PvPer density and we are a defensive alliance, so anywhere in FIX claimed territory you'll find a lot of people who are bored and come running when they hear there is a target. BNC never complained about getting burried under 3-1 odds, maybe you could try and be as cool as they are. :P
I dont belive myself that there is really anything wrong with logging in enemy territory. And I dont belive it should matter to any of us if they do. Its not like we dont always have hostiles of one type or another running around, so who cares? They log on, we'll kill em or be killed by em. Thats how it works. If someone doesnt like it they shouldnt be in a 0.0 alliance.
All you people just need to shut it, and someone needs to lock this thread.
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Crzycnck2
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Posted - 2005.06.04 21:34:00 -
[201]
Originally by: Boba Hunter
You know that isent intaierly true!
I remember last nigth we killd a reven there! I my self wosent there.... So i canrt show you the kill mail jet. Bot i will post it here if you whan to see it. And meny more will com.
Yup you guys did and there were 10 people on that killmail vs. 1 NPC raven. You guys complain about blobing but when you do it it's fine??
**FIX FTW** |
FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.04 21:49:00 -
[202]
Originally by: Crzycnck2
Originally by: Boba Hunter
You know that isent intaierly true!
I remember last nigth we killd a reven there! I my self wosent there.... So i canrt show you the kill mail jet. Bot i will post it here if you whan to see it. And meny more will com.
Yup you guys did and there were 10 people on that killmail vs. 1 NPC raven. You guys complain about blobing but when you do it it's fine??
we don't complain about blobbing were just saying we won't fight your blobs thier is a difference
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.04 22:23:00 -
[203]
well start whit fighintg our even gangs then =)
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djNME
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Posted - 2005.06.04 22:33:00 -
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I didn't even bother reading all these pages.Some of what I read are legit responses to logging if blobbed etc.and things that happen.However the majority of these people log on try to gank faced with equal numbers they log.Simple as that;they sit around with 5 people is bstrying to set hauelrs up for the gank.Assult frig vs assult frig etc. and they bring it a whole fleet.. ss then log all once.THis is not about being blobbed at all. lol. These guys are asked time n time again for 5 vs 5..or even fights.So they don't whine about being blobbed.They decline and norm say shyt like "NO we're not ghey"....These gusy are nothing but lame and using last resort tactics.The numbers don't lie and fix is not hurting.We are just sick of people we thought were good PVPers and that would be fun to fight, being lame. They are acting like little gurls in a game.They LOG off when chased in even numbers.... in mass all at the same time not just one or two at a time.Not coming online together to fight.. but in pairs or one at time running or scanning a gate for a hauler to pvp with lol..then safe spot n log right away.To me it's just a joke and i'll leave it at that. I thought these guys had a bit of class... they have none, bottom line.
djNME
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 22:34:39
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 22:34:24
Originally by: djNME
I didn't even bother reading all these pages.Some of what I read are legit responses to logging if blobbed etc.and things that happen.However the majority of these people log on try to gank faced with equal numbers they log.Simple as that;they sit around with 5 people is bstrying to set hauelrs up for the gank.Assult frig vs assult frig etc. and they bring it a whole fleet.. ss then log all once.THis is not about being blobbed at all. lol. These guys are asked time n time again for 5 vs 5..or even fights.So they don't whine about being blobbed.They decline and norm say shyt like "NO we're not ghey"....These gusy are nothing but lame and using last resort tactics.The numbers don't lie and fix is not hurting.We are just sick of people we thought were good PVPers and that would be fun to fight, being lame. They are acting like little gurls in a game.They LOG off when chased in even numbers.... in mass all at the same time not just one or two at a time.Not coming online together to fight.. but in pairs or one at time running or scanning a gate for a hauler to pvp with lol..then safe spot n log right away.To me it's just a joke and i'll leave it at that. I thought these guys had a bit of class... they have none, bottom line.
djNME
WORD !!
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2005.06.04 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Nez Perces
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 22:34:39
Edited by: Nez Perces on 04/06/2005 22:34:24
Originally by: djNME
I didn't even bother reading all these pages.Some of what I read are legit responses to logging if blobbed etc.and things that happen.However the majority of these people log on try to gank faced with equal numbers they log.Simple as that;they sit around with 5 people is bstrying to set hauelrs up for the gank.Assult frig vs assult frig etc. and they bring it a whole fleet.. ss then log all once.THis is not about being blobbed at all. lol. These guys are asked time n time again for 5 vs 5..or even fights.So they don't whine about being blobbed.They decline and norm say shyt like "NO we're not ghey"....These gusy are nothing but lame and using last resort tactics.The numbers don't lie and fix is not hurting.We are just sick of people we thought were good PVPers and that would be fun to fight, being lame. They are acting like little gurls in a game.They LOG off when chased in even numbers.... in mass all at the same time not just one or two at a time.Not coming online together to fight.. but in pairs or one at time running or scanning a gate for a hauler to pvp with lol..then safe spot n log right away.To me it's just a joke and i'll leave it at that. I thought these guys had a bit of class... they have none, bottom line.
djNME
WORD !!
PARAGRAPHS !!
Allways move fast, you never know who's catching up!
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Nez Perces
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Posted - 2005.06.04 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Taz Devlin
PARAGRAPHS !!
ROFL Taz, just spilt my hot cocoa all over the keyboard
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2005.06.04 22:59:00 -
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err... sorry about that
Allways move fast, you never know who's catching up!
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Gibmundur
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Posted - 2005.06.04 23:47:00 -
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naz, can i have youre stuff?
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mahhy
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Posted - 2005.06.05 09:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mindlles
mahhy are u and hubba bubba sleeping togheter? By looking at ur posta u seem to be very close to echouther?
Yes, I'm so sorry for cheating on you.
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Mindlles
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Posted - 2005.06.05 09:38:00 -
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Originally by: mahhy
Yes, I'm so sorry for cheating on you.
I KNEW IT!
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corporal hicks
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Posted - 2005.06.05 10:15:00 -
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12 pages!!! ffs i want my life back...
Listen up all you people, the hostility in this tread is mad, yes there have been incidents and people have logged off thats all i will say.
Yes Fix has a Blob, now the next coalition guy that posts a killmail and says he was killed by the blob check the system you were killed in before making yourself look stupid, I enguaged the blob and died post 5 pages back, yes you lost a scorp in 9cg 9cg of all places ie the very core system of FIX, so ofc you will find a blob, thats where Club Fix is
Now alot of the frustraition FIX has for Coalition is the fact we recieved the "mail" saying that these logging tactics were going to be used, we all know we have spies in alliances so the fact we got the mail while it was surpriseing to us we dismissed it as a joke and then lo and behold Coalition forces start doing strange stuff, hence the frustraition. its not about we want a fair fight its we would at least like to have a decent one.
While some of the stuff in this tread has been exaggerated probably on both sides, blobs/log offs, there have been afew genuine incidents.
In Closing and on behalf of FIX I say this is over ie the tread, Take the fight into game and lets have fun after all it is only a game.
Now Mods please bury this tread, if coalition are happy with that.
" Stay Frosty "
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Zhuge Liang
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Posted - 2005.06.05 11:07:00 -
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Thread has run it's course, ty all for contributing and have a safe journey home.
ZhuuÀ gheyÀleeÀyan (Kongming) |
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