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Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
664
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:15:00 -
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Sorry for double, triple, even quadruple post, just want that devs pay atention on this old idea and people needs.
Realy Devs Come on... Im siting on main and alt on very expensive implants set, i want (enter now) some low sec pvp or i want just try pvp, but this fact i use expensive implants keept me for pvp, not because im afraid to lose ship but lose some implants that i realy dont need on pvp, frist they expensive and seconv they not helpfull while pvp.
Please reduce this time to 12 hours...
How long it take... EvE isn't game, its style of living. |

Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
635
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:18:00 -
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Then you shouldn't have bought the implants to begin with.
Either buy the expensive implants and PvP in them getting the full use out of them
OR
Don't buy the expensive implants and except.
EVE is full of choices.
YOu make choices every day with ship fittings and except the results of your actions, why should implants be any different ? EVERYBODY KNOWS |

Dave stark
1190
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:20:00 -
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i don't see an issue jumping to another clone if it's in the same station and resets the cooldown to 24 hours. prevents people abusing it for traveling and lets people swap implant sets.
then again, why should you be allowed to swap implants without a second thought? "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
241
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:21:00 -
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if you are going to pvp in lowsec or highsec you dont have to worry about being podded. |

Ivbeen Cloned
Fkd For Names
5
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:21:00 -
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When is CCP going to fix this!? My solution is for them to allow us to have multiple characters running on the same PC. This way I can use one for isk making and another for PVP. Cmon CCP! |

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
664
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:21:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Then you shouldn't have bought the implants to begin with.
Either buy the expensive implants and PvP in them getting the full use out of them
OR
Don't buy the expensive implants and except.
EVE is full of choices.
I agree with you but Eve shoud offer more instan pvp not restricted by stupid 24 h waiting, people works, people got familis, people do other thing in RL, and while they want some action they have to waint until, damn 24 hour period is over. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |

Dave stark
1190
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:22:00 -
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Ivbeen Cloned wrote:When is CCP going to fix this!? My solution is for them to allow us to have multiple characters running on the same PC. This way I can use one for isk making and another for PVP. Cmon CCP!
uh, you can.
i've got 3 accounts logged in on my pc right now. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
664
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:24:00 -
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Varesk wrote:if you are going to pvp in lowsec or highsec you dont have to worry about being podded.
These days ? i know is realy hard to lose a pod in lowsec, but this fact make me sick, espetialy if you land on t3 red blob with scan res bonuses etc. EvE isn't game, its style of living. |

Ivbeen Cloned
Fkd For Names
5
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:24:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Ivbeen Cloned wrote:When is CCP going to fix this!? My solution is for them to allow us to have multiple characters running on the same PC. This way I can use one for isk making and another for PVP. Cmon CCP! uh, you can. i've got 3 accounts logged in on my pc right now.
That didnt take long, I guess I should have ended that post with a sarcasm tag... |

Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
635
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:31:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:
I agree with you but Eve shoud offer more instan pvp not restricted by stupid 24 h waiting, people works, people got familis, people do other thing in RL, and while they want some action they have to waint until, damn 24 hour period is over.
By shortening the jump timer you are then getting very close to implants that can't be destroyed.
Now that being said I would rather see the jump clone timer changed to once a day (EVE time) or reset everyone during down time. Whichever would be easier for CCP
And drop the hard fast 24 hour timer.
that means I could jump at say 2000 and play where ever and then at 0001 EVE time I would be able to jump again.
A compromise that should make most happy. EVERYBODY KNOWS |

Jacob Straven
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:32:00 -
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Easy solution:
1: Carebear lots of ISK 2: Create second account and add PLEX 3: Buy PvP character and put on 2nd account 4: Die in a fire "trying" PvP
Done |

Tah'ris Khlador
Space Ghosts. Break-A-Wish Foundation
397
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:38:00 -
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Learning Implants: Too afraid to PVP with them; too afraid to lose training time to play without them (for a full 24 hours). Lestatra: Eve is now fully committed to pvp . |

KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
1242
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:38:00 -
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Me me me me me now now now now now www.minerbumping.com - because your tears are delicious |

No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1985
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:38:00 -
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I can clone around the universe at any of the dozens and dozens of offices rented by my corp every 2 minutes. As long as it takes to self destruct my pod. It's your to choice to wear all that **** in your head. . |

Sentamon
516
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:39:00 -
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no 0/10 post
empty instant gratification mmo's that way -----------------> ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Djana Libra
The Black Ops Black Core Alliance
49
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:48:00 -
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0/0 fail troll
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Tarvos Telesto
Blood Fanatics
664
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Posted - 2012.12.28 19:49:00 -
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Djana Libra wrote:0/0 fail troll
If you think im trolling you are an idiot, leave my therad and biomas your self moron.
Personal atack? yes, you deserve it.
Maybe you are mad because you avoid use expensive implants, well its your choise... EvE isn't game, its style of living. |

Karloth Valois
Temnava Legion No Holes Barred
59
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:18:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:Sorry for double, triple, even quadruple post
Where is ISD when you need them for this blantant breaking of forum rules It's not been nice, but thanks for using lube
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Stan Smith
Deathraven Industries The AirShip Pirates
47
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:21:00 -
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Make a skill to reduce the jump timer Gÿ+/ /Gûî /n++ \ This is Bob, post him into your forum sig and help him conquer the forums. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
360
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:28:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:i don't see an issue jumping to another clone if it's in the same station and resets the cooldown to 24 hours. prevents people abusing it for traveling and lets people swap implant sets.
then again, why should you be allowed to swap implants without a second thought?
The only thing it prevents right now is for players to log in because they don't want to pvp with the implanted clone for several times the cost of the ship they fly.
Clone costs are already ridiculous once you step above 60M sp, this already prevents a lot of pvp. Jump clone timers are also preventing pvp.
Now if this is really a problem for someone about traveling yadaya, start by asking nerfs to titan and jump bridges, those are indeed huge advantages and shouldn't be that powerful. Clone costs and jump timers are not good for players experience by any means or brings something valuable to the game. For those talking about choices then ask CCP to implement a double timer so you can still use a 24h or even a year timer if that pleases you that much and think seriously this kind of stuff brings something valuable at whatever point. |

FoxBird Freir
Raven's Flight Nulli Legio
21
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:30:00 -
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Someone pod him in highsec, bet that'll wake him up ;) |

Dave stark
1190
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:33:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Dave stark wrote:i don't see an issue jumping to another clone if it's in the same station and resets the cooldown to 24 hours. prevents people abusing it for traveling and lets people swap implant sets.
then again, why should you be allowed to swap implants without a second thought? The only thing it prevents right now is for players to log in because they don't want to pvp with the implanted clone for several times the cost of the ship they fly. Clone costs are already ridiculous once you step above 60M sp, this already prevents a lot of pvp. Jump clone timers are also preventing pvp. Now if this is really a problem for someone about traveling yadaya, start by asking nerfs to titan and jump bridges, those are indeed huge advantages and shouldn't be that powerful. Clone costs and jump timers are not good for players experience by any means or brings something valuable to the game. For those talking about choices then ask CCP to implement a double timer so you can still use a 24h or even a year timer if that pleases you that much and think seriously this kind of stuff brings something valuable at whatever point.
no. people being risk averse is preventing pvp. don't pretend it has anything to do with the jump clone cooldown. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
360
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:40:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:By shortening the jump timer you are then getting very close to implants that can't be destroyed.
Players not login because clone timers not only makes those implants indestructible (at some point) but also less players or characters fleeting up/roaming whatever pvp.
So, the questions should be: do you prefer more dudes doing pvp or not? Does this timer prevents pvp, yes or not?
Once you seriously answered those questions taking in account there's not only a single way of thinking or playing this game, then I think we can move on and actually pvp a little more, I mean, play the game a little more.
It's not the single negative point, you have to add all the natural problems random whatever player will encounter trying to log in and play Eve like usual bugs, new bugs, bad patches, and also figure out many players using other thing than Windows XP B.C. versions like Mac, Linux or even win8 have huge issues just to be able to undock and actually click and move to something. Then yes, this is not only a problem for gaming experience but also an unnecessary and stupid problem that should never ever been one in the first place.
But it's only my $15 humble opinion, I know doesn't count that much.
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Unoob Udumb
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
10
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:43:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:no. people being risk averse is preventing pvp. don't pretend it has anything to do with the jump clone cooldown.
And why do you think they are risk averse, smart ass? Because they know they are going to lose ship + pod + implants, which they paid with hours of boring grinding. Without the price of the implants, you would probably see a bit more pewpew.
You should really think before shiptoasting. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
360
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:47:00 -
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Unoob Udumb wrote:Dave stark wrote:no. people being risk averse is preventing pvp. don't pretend it has anything to do with the jump clone cooldown. And why do you think they are risk averse, smart ass? Because they know they are going to lose ship + pod + implants, which they paid with hours of boring grinding. Without the price of the implants, you would probably see a bit more pewpew. You should really think before shiptoasting.
I need a 100x likes button.  |

Morrigan LeSante
The Lost and Forgotten Troopers
145
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:49:00 -
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If the timer is ticking, you've already jumped. So why are you jumping about SO much?
Or is 24 hours in a lower grade of implant clone REALLY such a big deal? |

Dave stark
1190
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:49:00 -
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Unoob Udumb wrote:Dave stark wrote:no. people being risk averse is preventing pvp. don't pretend it has anything to do with the jump clone cooldown. And why do you think they are risk averse, smart ass? Because they know they are going to lose ship + pod + implants, which they paid with hours of boring grinding. Without the price of the implants, you would probably see a bit more pewpew. You should really think before shiptoasting.
"i disagree with you, therefore you're shitposting" is that irony?
edit: also you just pointed out grinding for isk for implants is boring, which is a totally different issue to the jump clone cooldown. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
817
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:51:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Simetraz wrote:By shortening the jump timer you are then getting very close to implants that can't be destroyed. Players not login because clone timers not only makes those implants indestructible (at some point) but also less players or characters fleeting up/roaming whatever pvp. So, the questions should be: do you prefer more dudes doing pvp or not? Does this timer prevents pvp, yes or not? Once you seriously answered those questions taking in account there's not only a single way of thinking or playing this game, then I think we can move on and actually pvp a little more, I mean, play the game a little more. It's not the single negative point, you have to add all the natural problems random whatever player will encounter trying to log in and play Eve like usual bugs, new bugs, bad patches, and also figure out many players using other thing than Windows XP B.C. versions like Mac, Linux or even win8 have huge issues just to be able to undock and actually click and move to something. Then yes, this is not only a problem for gaming experience but also an unnecessary and stupid problem that should never ever been one in the first place. But it's only my $15 humble opinion, I know doesn't count that much.
Plenty of people fight PVP without relying on JCs, so no, the 24 hour cooldown does not prevent PVP combat. You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

ihcn
Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple
144
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Posted - 2012.12.28 20:54:00 -
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Tarvos Telesto wrote:Simetraz wrote:Then you shouldn't have bought the implants to begin with.
Either buy the expensive implants and PvP in them getting the full use out of them
OR
Don't buy the expensive implants and except.
EVE is full of choices.
I agree with you but Eve shoud offer more instant pvp not restricted by stupid 24 h waiting, people works, people got familis, people do other thing in RL, and while they want some action they have to waint until, damn 24 hour period is over. this is the core of the carebear mentality
"i made a decision fully knowing what the consequences are, and now im mad because i had to deal with the consequences
if you wanted to pvp today, why did you jump to an expensive clone 7 hours ago? why are you worried about getting podded in lowsec? you have to TRY to get podded in lowsec |

Burseg Sardaukar
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
192
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Posted - 2012.12.28 21:00:00 -
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I'm on board with the OP.
I think the most balanced thing would be a skill that reduces the jumpclone timer by 3 hours per level. It makes it less sandbox if I'm stuck in a shield clone when I want my armor clone or want to go to null but can't jump to my blank clone for 15 hours.
Yea, EVE is full of choices, but I don't really know what benefit or "lesson" is to be learned by forcing players to (usually) do nothing while they wait out a timer. To not use jumpclones? Hey, as a dude that lives in lowsec, you should read my idea on how to "fix" it... in Blog format, complete with a spreadsheet! http://3xxxd.blogspot.com/2012/09/how-to-buff-lowsec.html |
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