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Jason13 Anzomi School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 22	Posted - 2012.12.30 05:35:00 - [1] - Quote Assume you are mining and have drones deployed (and set to aggressive). Further assume a ganker shows up and starts shooting at you. The question is, do your drones then attack the ganker without your instructing them?
Dheeradj Nurgle Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 125	Posted - 2012.12.30 10:59:00 - [2] - Quote They should, after the ganker has has agressed(Opened fire). Considering a random ganker will only expect to get one or two hits off before the CONCORDOKKEN, and I expect you won't have fitted a tank, they will one/two shot you. And by that time, the drones will only have gotten one shot off, while you are sitting next to 2 wrecks, and 3 CONCORD ships. I doubt that it's usefull, but if you try, let us know.
Jason13 Anzomi School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 24	Posted - 2012.12.30 12:36:00 - [3] - Quote The question arose due to something that happened yesterday. I had a Catalyst warp into my mining mission space and try to gank me. But since I fit my mission Retriever with tank rather than optimal mining, my ship had more than twice the normal eHP. As a result my ship survived to watch him motor home in his pod. Unfortunately I had recalled my drones due to being seconds away from finishing the mission and thus had no damage on him and therefore no kill mail to remember the instance by. From now on, the drones stay out until until I'm ready to go cash in the mission! Perhaps that way I can report back as to whether I get a kill mail on a ganker using my killer Retriever.
Aziesta BloodLust Enterprises Apocalypse Now. 343	Posted - 2012.12.30 14:58:00 - [4] - Quote Yes, they agress. ECM drones are a good choice for this, as they have a chance of actually helping you within seconds, where as damage drones don't really do anything useful in the 20 seconds it takes for concord to show up. And yes, ECM drones get you on the killmail as well.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Operations 3203	Posted - 2012.12.30 15:13:00 - [5] - Quote The drones set to aggressive will attack them even if you are just targeted. Then guess who gets exploded ? Drones set to aggressive while mining is not a good idea at all, OK ? Sounds to me like you just wanna be AFK. Keep them on passive and if they do fire and you are still there (hopefully you were at keyboard and have at least attempted to warp away) unleash them and youu will at least get on the CONCORD Kill Mail. Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde
Jason13 Anzomi School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 24	Posted - 2012.12.30 17:41:00 - [6] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: The drones set to aggressive will attack them even if you are just targeted. Then guess who gets exploded ? Drones set to aggressive while mining is not a good idea at all, OK ? Sounds to me like you just wanna be AFK. Keep them on passive and if they do fire and you are still there (hopefully you were at keyboard and have at least attempted to warp away) unleash them and youu will at least get on the CONCORD Kill Mail. It sounded to me as though the situation was exactly as stated. I had a gank Catalyst warp in, darn near insta-locked me, blew the crud out of my boat before Concord popped his ship. The only thing that saved me according to the damage log was that he had a whole mess of misses and low damage hits. As it was, I went to 70% structure before his ship popped. I was not afk mining and was doing an L3 mining mission. And there's no way you can afk those! So if someone targets me, my drones will attack him? When NPC ships target me, the drones do not attack. Is there a difference in NPC targeting and player targeting? The mail from Concord telling me I had kill rights showed up after he first shot, not prior to him taking the first shot. And yes, I would have tried to warp - except that he had me warp scrambled. And with my 100 m/s Retriever, I certainly wasn't going to run away. And the time required for me to right click drones, select launch drones and then tell them to actually attack took too long. At 59 and disabled, I'm afraid my twitch fingers don't twitch that fast anymore.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Operations 3204	Posted - 2012.12.30 17:58:00 - [7] - Quote Jason13 Anzomi wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: The drones set to aggressive will attack them even if you are just targeted. Then guess who gets exploded ? Drones set to aggressive while mining is not a good idea at all, OK ? Sounds to me like you just wanna be AFK. Keep them on passive and if they do fire and you are still there (hopefully you were at keyboard and have at least attempted to warp away) unleash them and youu will at least get on the CONCORD Kill Mail. It sounded to me as though the situation was exactly as stated. I had a gank Catalyst warp in, darn near insta-locked me, blew the crud out of my boat before Concord popped his ship. The only thing that saved me according to the damage log was that he had a whole mess of misses and low damage hits. As it was, I went to 70% structure before his ship popped. I was not afk mining and was doing an L3 mining mission. And there's no way you can afk those! So if someone targets me, my drones will attack him? When NPC ships target me, the drones do not attack. Is there a difference in NPC targeting and player targeting? The mail from Concord telling me I had kill rights showed up after he first shot, not prior to him taking the first shot. And yes, I would have tried to warp - except that he had me warp scrambled. And with my 100 m/s Retriever, I certainly wasn't going to run away. And the time required for me to right click drones, select launch drones and then tell them to actually attack took too long. At 59 and disabled, I'm afraid my twitch fingers don't twitch that fast anymore. The NPC mechanics are different that RL player ship mechanics. Not saying you were afk, just roundabout warning about it. And yes, targeting is aggression whether or not someone actually fires. When I fleet with my alt that webs my freighter, the alt gets an aggression timer before he even webs my freighter, and also cannot gate jump for 60 seconds. This is how gankers trick you. They target you and if the drones are set to aggressive they will attack. Then you lose your ship. I know, it's a complicated game. Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde
Illest Insurrectionist The Scope Gallente Federation 47	Posted - 2012.12.30 18:07:00 - [8] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Jason13 Anzomi wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: The drones set to aggressive will attack them even if you are just targeted. Then guess who gets exploded ? Drones set to aggressive while mining is not a good idea at all, OK ? Sounds to me like you just wanna be AFK. Keep them on passive and if they do fire and you are still there (hopefully you were at keyboard and have at least attempted to warp away) unleash them and youu will at least get on the CONCORD Kill Mail. It sounded to me as though the situation was exactly as stated. I had a gank Catalyst warp in, darn near insta-locked me, blew the crud out of my boat before Concord popped his ship. The only thing that saved me according to the damage log was that he had a whole mess of misses and low damage hits. As it was, I went to 70% structure before his ship popped. I was not afk mining and was doing an L3 mining mission. And there's no way you can afk those! So if someone targets me, my drones will attack him? When NPC ships target me, the drones do not attack. Is there a difference in NPC targeting and player targeting? The mail from Concord telling me I had kill rights showed up after he first shot, not prior to him taking the first shot. And yes, I would have tried to warp - except that he had me warp scrambled. And with my 100 m/s Retriever, I certainly wasn't going to run away. And the time required for me to right click drones, select launch drones and then tell them to actually attack took too long. At 59 and disabled, I'm afraid my twitch fingers don't twitch that fast anymore. The NPC mechanics are different that RL player ship mechanics. Not saying you were afk, just roundabout warning about it. And yes, targeting is aggression whether or not someone actually fires. When I fleet with my alt that webs my freighter, the alt gets an aggression timer before he even webs my freighter, and also cannot gate jump for 60 seconds. This is how gankers trick you. They target you and if the drones are set to aggressive they will attack. Then you lose your ship. I know, it's a complicated game. Ignore this guy. Targeting someone won't cause their drones to attack you. lol If you do have drones out while attacked you can, in theory, get the bounty from the ganker even if you die. If you damage them then concord finishes i think you'll get the bounty from them.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Operations 3204	Posted - 2012.12.30 18:11:00 - [9] - Quote Illest Insurrectionist wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Jason13 Anzomi wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: The drones set to aggressive will attack them even if you are just targeted. Then guess who gets exploded ? Drones set to aggressive while mining is not a good idea at all, OK ? Sounds to me like you just wanna be AFK. Keep them on passive and if they do fire and you are still there (hopefully you were at keyboard and have at least attempted to warp away) unleash them and youu will at least get on the CONCORD Kill Mail. It sounded to me as though the situation was exactly as stated. I had a gank Catalyst warp in, darn near insta-locked me, blew the crud out of my boat before Concord popped his ship. The only thing that saved me according to the damage log was that he had a whole mess of misses and low damage hits. As it was, I went to 70% structure before his ship popped. I was not afk mining and was doing an L3 mining mission. And there's no way you can afk those! So if someone targets me, my drones will attack him? When NPC ships target me, the drones do not attack. Is there a difference in NPC targeting and player targeting? The mail from Concord telling me I had kill rights showed up after he first shot, not prior to him taking the first shot. And yes, I would have tried to warp - except that he had me warp scrambled. And with my 100 m/s Retriever, I certainly wasn't going to run away. And the time required for me to right click drones, select launch drones and then tell them to actually attack took too long. At 59 and disabled, I'm afraid my twitch fingers don't twitch that fast anymore. The NPC mechanics are different that RL player ship mechanics. Not saying you were afk, just roundabout warning about it. And yes, targeting is aggression whether or not someone actually fires. When I fleet with my alt that webs my freighter, the alt gets an aggression timer before he even webs my freighter, and also cannot gate jump for 60 seconds. This is how gankers trick you. They target you and if the drones are set to aggressive they will attack. Then you lose your ship. I know, it's a complicated game. Ignore this guy. Targeting someone won't cause their drones to attack you. lol If you do have drones out while attacked you can, in theory, get the bounty from the ganker even if you die. If you damage them then concord finishes i think you'll get the bounty from them. Unless some mechanic has changed in last 2 years (I've been playing 3, and your info says you have played since August) you cannot possibly be right. Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde
Jason13 Anzomi School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 24	Posted - 2012.12.30 18:15:00 - [10] - Quote Illest Insurrectionist wrote: Ignore this guy. Targeting someone won't cause their drones to attack you. lol If you do have drones out while attacked you can, in theory, get the bounty from the ganker even if you die. If you damage them then concord finishes i think you'll get the bounty from them. I was pretty much certain that I have been targetted in the past with drones out and without the drones attacking. Once my friend comes online, I was going to setup a test run to see if target along would result in drone agro, but I didn't want to argue until I was certain. I want to thank everyone for helping answer the question. I searched for half a day before finally posting my question. It was purely annoying to not find an answer through research.
Jason13 Anzomi School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 24	Posted - 2012.12.30 18:23:00 - [11] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: And yes, targeting is aggression whether or not someone actually fires. When I fleet with my alt that webs my freighter, the alt gets an aggression timer before he even webs my freighter, and also cannot gate jump for 60 seconds. Actually aggression timers and drone attack aggression triggers are two different things. When an NPC targets me, my aggression timer (top left corner) starts as of that moment. But my drones do not trigger to attack mode until one of them actually takes an aggressive action towards my ship. So I can believe that targetting your freighter starts an aggression timer. But I do not see the aggression timer as being equal to the drones attack trigger.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Operations 3204	Posted - 2012.12.30 18:32:00 - [12] - Quote Jason13 Anzomi wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: And yes, targeting is aggression whether or not someone actually fires. When I fleet with my alt that webs my freighter, the alt gets an aggression timer before he even webs my freighter, and also cannot gate jump for 60 seconds. Actually aggression timers and drone attack aggression triggers are two different things. When an NPC targets me, my aggression timer (top left corner) starts as of that moment. But my drones do not trigger to attack mode until one of them actually takes an aggressive action towards my ship. So I can believe that targetting your freighter starts an aggression timer. But I do not see the aggression timer as being equal to the drones attack trigger. Exactly. The potential ganker can web you which is not CONCORD-able, but is aggression and the drones will attack them and you'll have a bad day. Other poster is half-right, half-wrong. Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde
Jason13 Anzomi School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 24	Posted - 2012.12.30 18:37:00 - [13] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: Exactly. The potential ganker can web you which is not CONCORD-able, but is aggression and the drones will attack them and you'll have a bad day. Other poster is half-right, half-wrong. So you are saying that the targetting itself does not trigger the drone aggression, but the webbing is? If your alt was not in the same corp, the act of webbing is an aggressive action and Concord will take action. Therefore I would fully expect webbing to trigger drones, just as the earlier poster said EWAR drones would result in a kill mail since EWAR is considered aggressive.
Illest Insurrectionist The Scope Gallente Federation 48	Posted - 2012.12.30 18:37:00 - [14] - Quote Webbing someone is a concordokkenable action. Again don't listen to silly people.
Zyella Stormborn Green Seekers 278	Posted - 2012.12.30 18:44:00 - [15] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: The drones set to aggressive will attack them even if you are just targeted. Then guess who gets exploded ? Drones set to aggressive while mining is not a good idea at all, OK ? Sounds to me like you just wanna be AFK. Keep them on passive and if they do fire and you are still there (hopefully you were at keyboard and have at least attempted to warp away) unleash them and youu will at least get on the CONCORD Kill Mail. I think you need to re test some things Krixtal. Targeting starts an aggression, but does not cause the drones to attack. Only a hostile ACTION (In high sec this means concordokken) causes them to start attacking. Shooting at the miner, webbing the miner, I believe even target painting the miner will do it. But this will also bring concord down on you unless you are a corp mate. To the OP, you can leave your drones on aggressive, they will not attack the guy until he does something that will bring in Concord anyway. Hell, they often won't even aggro onto rats until they start shooting. I have been a heavy miner for a long time now and have never had my drones get me killed when I mine in high sec due to aggro mechanics. Unless of course, something changed in this very latest Retribution patch that I missed. There is a special Hell for people like that, Right next to child molestors, and people that talk in the theater. ~Firefly
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Operations 3206	Posted - 2012.12.30 19:23:00 - [16] - Quote Zyella Stormborn wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: The drones set to aggressive will attack them even if you are just targeted. Then guess who gets exploded ? Drones set to aggressive while mining is not a good idea at all, OK ? Sounds to me like you just wanna be AFK. Keep them on passive and if they do fire and you are still there (hopefully you were at keyboard and have at least attempted to warp away) unleash them and youu will at least get on the CONCORD Kill Mail. I think you need to re test some things Krixtal. Targeting starts an aggression, but does not cause the drones to attack. Only a hostile ACTION (In high sec this means concordokken) causes them to start attacking. Shooting at the miner, webbing the miner, I believe even target painting the miner will do it. But this will also bring concord down on you unless you are a corp mate. To the OP, you can leave your drones on aggressive, they will not attack the guy until he does something that will bring in Concord anyway. Hell, they often won't even aggro onto rats until they start shooting. I have been a heavy miner for a long time now and have never had my drones get me killed when I mine in high sec due to aggro mechanics. Unless of course, something changed in this very latest Retribution patch that I missed. I'll take your word for it that something changed awhile back. I concede. edit: I guess CCP did something as too many noobs were getting tricked. Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 1427	Posted - 2012.12.30 19:32:00 - [17] - Quote Drones set to aggressive will not attack targets that have not attacked you. Wreck & jetcan thieves will be flagged as suspect, and aggressive drones will ignore them. ECM drones are horrible for protection vs. gankers, as ECM takes 20 seconds to do anything (at end of cycle), and you'll probably be dead by then. They are also completely useless vs. smartbombs.
Jason13 Anzomi School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 24	Posted - 2012.12.30 19:33:00 - [18] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: I guess CCP did something as too many noobs were getting tricked. Old corp leader had been playing since '04 and things were different and advice outdated given. Thank you for getting back to us on this. It is interesting to hear how the game has changed over time and that was one change that I am glad they made! Keeping the drones on passive would have required first targeting the incoming gank ship, waiting for the target lock to finish, then commanding drones to engage. Even the fastest twitch fingers would have a difficult time getting engaged in that time!
Styth spiting Ion Corp. NightSong Directorate 242	Posted - 2012.12.31 00:03:00 - [19] - Quote Targeting someone does not cause aggression. This is why people are able to scan ships/freighters without concord taking action. Drones should instantly attack the moment an aggressive module(s) is activated as long as your drones are not currently aggression something, and are within range of the aggressor. Do not set drones to assist other ships. Doing this will cause the drones to attack making you an free to kill.
TheSkeptic Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 83	Posted - 2012.12.31 09:05:00 - [20] - Quote rofl, seems like the best advice would be ignore anything Krixtal Icefluxor posts. How can you play the game for 3 years and be so wrong about everything? Lord Zim: I do the following in hisec, because it's less effort vs reward than doing the same in nullsec: - Ratting
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2237	Posted - 2012.12.31 13:43:00 - [21] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: The drones set to aggressive will attack them even if you are just targeted. Then guess who gets exploded ? Drones set to aggressive while mining is not a good idea at all, OK ? Sounds to me like you just wanna be AFK. Keep them on passive and if they do fire and you are still there (hopefully you were at keyboard and have at least attempted to warp away) unleash them and youu will at least get on the CONCORD Kill Mail. Dead wrong. Aggressive Drones will only attack players who have performed a hostile action against you. You cannot and will not get CONCORDed for having aggressive drones out. And no, nothing's changed, Drones have never gotten anyone automatically CONCORDed for being set to aggressive. Krixtal's just an idiot. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. Guess Who's Back. -á Back Again.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Operations 3219	Posted - 2012.12.31 14:14:00 - [22] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: The drones set to aggressive will attack them even if you are just targeted. Then guess who gets exploded ? Drones set to aggressive while mining is not a good idea at all, OK ? Sounds to me like you just wanna be AFK. Keep them on passive and if they do fire and you are still there (hopefully you were at keyboard and have at least attempted to warp away) unleash them and youu will at least get on the CONCORD Kill Mail. Dead wrong. Aggressive Drones will only attack players who have performed a hostile action against you. You cannot and will not get CONCORDed for having aggressive drones out. And no, nothing's changed, Drones have never gotten anyone automatically CONCORDed for being set to aggressive. Krixtal's just an idiot. You missed where I conceded and the explanation. Also, being a bout a 5 month player at the time, I more than likely misunderstood my Corp Leader explaining something similar and crossed it with other information. I have no idea except that I operated for almost 3 years with that 'information'. Only someone ignorant would call that stupid. Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Operations 3219	Posted - 2012.12.31 14:16:00 - [23] - Quote TheSkeptic wrote: rofl, seems like the best advice would be ignore anything Krixtal Icefluxor posts. How can you play the game for 3 years and be so wrong about everything? Everything, really ? That would actually be a rather impressive accomplishment. Keep on keepin' on with your lousy, bored, Trolling self. Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde
Skorpynekomimi 349	Posted - 2012.12.31 19:23:00 - [24] - Quote Another question. With aggressive drones, will they attack someone who ends up with a Suspect flag in the belt? (canflippers, etc.)
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Operations 3227	Posted - 2012.12.31 20:09:00 - [25] - Quote I'll let somebody else take it from here Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde
Kirkwood Ross AWE Corporation Intrepid Crossing 28	Posted - 2012.12.31 23:42:00 - [26] - Quote Targetting an untanked hulk in a gank ship will cause aggression and puckering of the pilot's anus.
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2240	Posted - 2013.01.01 00:14:00 - [27] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: You missed where I conceded and the explanation. Also, being a bout a 5 month player at the time, I more than likely misunderstood my Corp Leader explaining something similar and crossed it with other information. I have no idea except that I operated for almost 3 years with that 'information'. Only someone ignorant would call that stupid. You operated on some idiot piece of advice for 3 years without bothering to test it? Then you decide to spread it as gospel and argue with someone who knows better - again, without bothering to test it? You also didn't actually concede. You claimed that "something changed awhile back." When, in fact, drones had never auto-aggroed on someone targeting you, getting you CONCORDed for having aggressive drones. There's a non-idiot way to give advice when you don't know the right answer and haven't bothered to check it yourself. Let's see how it works: Skorpynekomimi wrote: Another question. With aggressive drones, will they attack someone who ends up with a Suspect flag in the belt? (canflippers, etc.) With Crimewatch 2.0 being so new, I don't know. Under Crimewatch 1, Drones did not auto-aggro just because you could shoot someone (like a canflipper) even if they targeted you, so I don't see why they would now. You could test it with an alt in a noobship. Just have it go suspect in a belt with you. If the drones attack, setting aggressive and going AFK would be a bad plan, but I highly doubt drone behavior would have changed that drastically. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. Guess Who's Back. -á Back Again.
Krixtal Icefluxor INLAND EMPIRE Operations 3233	Posted - 2013.01.01 01:25:00 - [28] - Quote RubyPorto wrote: Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: You missed where I conceded and the explanation. Also, being a bout a 5 month player at the time, I more than likely misunderstood my Corp Leader explaining something similar and crossed it with other information. I have no idea except that I operated for almost 3 years with that 'information'. Only someone ignorant would call that stupid. You operated on some idiot piece of advice for 3 years without bothering to test it? Then you decide to spread it as gospel and argue with someone who knows better - again, without bothering to test it? You also didn't actually concede. You claimed that "something changed awhile back." When, in fact, drones had never auto-aggroed on someone targeting you, getting you CONCORDed for having aggressive drones. There's a non-idiot way to give advice when you don't know the right answer and haven't bothered to check it yourself. Let's see how it works: Skorpynekomimi wrote: Another question. With aggressive drones, will they attack someone who ends up with a Suspect flag in the belt? (canflippers, etc.) With Crimewatch 2.0 being so new, I don't know. Under Crimewatch 1, Drones did not auto-aggro just because you could shoot someone (like a canflipper) even if they targeted you, so I don't see why they would now. You could test it with an alt in a noobship. Just have it go suspect in a belt with you. If the drones attack, setting aggressive and going AFK would be a bad plan, but I highly doubt drone behavior would have changed that drastically. You are really really bored and angry. But I'm glad you find me so utterly fascinating that you waste so much of your lifetime with a laser-like focus on me. Nothing at all better to do ? Really, nothing better ? edit: You must be blind to how foolish you come across. Really whiny. And complaining about someones mistake ? I've heard of infantilism but.....wow. You do take the cake. It's rather impressive. Only the shallow can fully know themselves. - Oscar Wilde
Styth spiting Ion Corp. NightSong Directorate 255	Posted - 2013.01.01 01:55:00 - [29] - Quote Skorpynekomimi wrote: Another question. With aggressive drones, will they attack someone who ends up with a Suspect flag in the belt? (canflippers, etc.) No, drones follow the same mechanics they will with NPC's, war targets, etc. Until the person has done some type of aggression towards you (damage, ecm, etc) they will just happily orbit you and mind their own business.
GreenSeed 136	Posted - 2013.01.01 03:15:00 - [30] - Quote Krixtal Icefluxor wrote: The drones set to aggressive will attack them even if you are just targeted. Then guess who gets exploded ? Drones set to aggressive while mining is not a good idea at all, OK ? Sounds to me like you just wanna be AFK. Keep them on passive and if they do fire and you are still there (hopefully you were at keyboard and have at least attempted to warp away) unleash them and youu will at least get on the CONCORD Kill Mail. what the hell is this man talking about? don't follow his terrible advice, set drones to aggressive. passive drones need you to lock target to use them.

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