It's not griefing since he has a reasonable expectation of profit. It's not an exploit either. Deal with it and stop whining. This is eve.

i find it funny that incursion runners are crying about 10 mil. just freakin pay him and mind your business,..... how many people does an incursion fleet have? now divide the 10 mil by the number of people and you can stop crying

I don't see any DEV interested in this post; do they care? I need to know if I am to renew sub next month.
How can it NOT be an exploit to use free ships, infinite supply of clones, concord sec rules and no isk to hold players from using a game feature.
I never liked the idea of the free noobships anyways. That needs to be addressed.

yeah i never see any devs in this forum at all

ppl are saying that deleting a noob toon with a low sec status and re-rolling another is an exploit ..... why not just create a TRIAL account ... gank with that and then let the trial expire ?? thats not an exploit
And before ppl reply with "1 trial wont be enough" a HQ site takes 40-50 pilots .... thats 40-50 trial toons .... it would only take 10 per site to eliminate this problem , even if you have to put those trial toons in cheap frigs
Plus ccp might actualy notice that every day or so 40-50 trials are going flashy red then being dumped
If ppl put as much effort into out-thinking this guy as they put into complaining , the problem would be solved by now

As the sitesGÇÖ mechanic requires them to be vacated for 5 minutes (guessing)to allow them to despawn it wouldnGÇÖt matter if we had 300 gank alts in system as soon as you think the site has been cleared of the pest and warp away he can simply warp in another and still hold the site.

THIS MECHANIC IS BROKEN AS THERE IS NO COUNTER TO IT.

Because HQ sites in high influence are barely playable (15-20% resists and damage drop) and moving to another incursion will take few more hours to grind influence to zero. I.e. in high influence HQ sites are as "profitable" as lvl4 missions making whole activity nearly pointless - not to mention 5+ ships pop series in TCRC sites in 50-100% influence.

P.S. By caring about CSM you support them. Let CCP and null alliances play their useless circlejerk quasi democracy meta-game - alone.

Ah yes. Unpaid trial accounts vs. unpaid trial accounts to determine the game of 100 shiney pirate battleships. Obviously this is an important game mechanic. I think they should make a patch where any trial account in the whole incursion constellation freezes the HQ site and the HQ fleets have to search every system until they find the noobship and then gank it and spank it. There should be a new HQ site where you need a noobship in fleet and once the battletower goes down you have to pod the trial noob. Why didn't they think of this before?

I'm Tama I'm a anti-incursion alt trained for 1 week with 200k ehp I'll be dual armour repping with my friend afk all day now. :) enjoy no high sec incursions!

You can freely go do a low or null sec incursion and actually pvp for the right to make sick amounts of isk.

Why does CCP have to do something, the point in the cloak fix was that players were powerless which they no longer are due to fix.?High sec Afking is not a problem as you can simply war dec me (oh wait I'm in an NPC corp).

There is the fix which is long overdue. Make NPC corps war decable problem solved, go fix this issue ccp.

You could in the mean time sucide me but it's gonna be pretty expensive as this harbi is plated a fair amount :)

so he is holding 4 systems hostage? the horror. How about if you can't beat him you either pay the blackmail fee or move to one of the other 5000 or so systems that also may or may not have incursion sites so that you can farm your little carebear heart out?

"CCP,
I believe that Sansha Kuvakei is insane. He believes himself to be the savior of the universe, a clear Messionic complex. In each type of site, the fleets he uses are virtually identical in each site that spawns, which indicates an obsessive-compulsive disorder as well. The fact that he will throw site after site at us, allowing us to farm them, is perfectly in line with the insanity of a man who believes he knows the best way to do everything and believes that he cannot lose.
What is not in line with his insanity is the ability of a single ship in a site preventing another site from spawning. Sansha Kuvakei will not let a fleet of capsuleers stop his operations in a system, evidenced by the way sites will respawn for days until either he withdraws his incursion by his own choice, or his mothership is destroyed preventing him from conducting further operations in that system.
I do not believe that Sansha Kuvakei would allow a ship, or even a fleet of ships, in a completed site to stop him from spawning a new site in that system. I believe he would, in fact, ignore the fact that he "lost" the site owing to his meglomania and would spawn a new site on the same schedule regardless of what is left behind in a completed site.
For this reason, I ask for a change in the mechanics of incursion site spawn. Once the site is completed and despawned, I ask that a new site spawn on the same schedule regardless of anything left behind in the old site. I believe this would better fit the behavior of the madman we know as Sansha Kuvakei."

Thoughts?

Not at all.

Missioners and miners are unable to do what they want to do and they cry about it. Incursioners mock them.

Incursioners are unable to do what they want to do and they cry about it.



To be fair, incursions essentially do last the maximum amount of time (being farmed until the moment the incursion's going to despawn on its own is effectively the "maximum") and highsec incursion runners are carebears just like missioners and miners.

Also, during the Incursion of my current home constellation, there was a lot of talk about deliberately not letting system penalties fall below 90%. While I can't pretend to know why anyone would want the penalties high, apparently someone does.