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Seth Mortis Lone Walker Corp 0	Posted - 2013.01.02 13:36:00 - [1] - Quote Dunno if im right here, anyways. I have a problem with my drones and am not sure its just me or ccp ****** up drones now completely. After the changes to drones i consider evry drones useless except sentries. Which why i 'adjusted' and changed to a sniper sentry drone setup domi, with a micro jump drive and almost zero tank capabilities. Warp in, jump 100km away to get the most distance possible between me and evrything and then snipe evrything from as far as 137km away. Worked mostly fine. [Dominix] Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Drone Damage Amplifier II Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Large 'Accommodation' Vestment Reconstructer I Damage Control II Omnidirectional Tracking Link I Large Micro Jump Drive Experimental 100MN Afterburner I F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script F-90 Positional Sensor Subroutines, Targeting Range Script Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Drone Link Augmentor I Small Tractor Beam II Small Tractor Beam II Large Drone Scope Chip I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Large Semiconductor Memory Cell I Warden II x5 But in the last few days last year, i noticed that my drones sometimes miss even on stationary targets (guns). So i checked abit arround and my optimal range showed only 60km. Didnt pay much attention to it at that time. Now second day at bew year i startup eve and get a mission and: - most of the time my drobnes completely miss (range over 100km) - most of the time each drone does only arround 15(!!!) dameg to a target Basically i cant even do a easy mission against drones which i could snipe from over 100km 1 target evry round of fire. So i took the time now to actually check arround whats up. And here is the prob. As soon as i deploy my drones, they lose EVERY SINGLE bonus they get from my skills and the fitrtiong of my ship. EVERY SINGLE thing, aka, they work as if u have zero skills and zero modules fitted. image link as proof. left and middle a drone in my dronebay, right info panel shows the same drone as soon as its deployed to space. [img]http://s2.postimage.org/wmfvrcbth/droneprob.jpg[/img]
Djana Libra The Black Ops Black Core Alliance 56	Posted - 2013.01.02 13:50:00 - [2] - Quote theres a thing called bug report might work better than posting in a forum
Seth Mortis Lone Walker Corp 0	Posted - 2013.01.02 13:57:00 - [3] - Quote Djana Libra wrote: theres a thing called bug report might work better than posting in a forum as i said, i dont know if im right here. so if u could point me to where exactly i should report this? didnt see anything inside the game like a reporting tool.
Complex Potential No Fixed Abode Mildly Intoxicated 143	Posted - 2013.01.02 13:58:00 - [4] - Quote I'm not playing the game right now but if you hit escape isn't there a "Petition" button somewhere on the option screen? EDIT: And for the record, I've not experienced this issue and I play in a very similar way with a Dominix and Bouncer IIs in Angel space.
Zak Matrix State War Academy Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.01.02 14:03:00 - [5] - Quote Well with max skills and without any drone tracking mods you get 75+30km range on warden II's, so its kinda obvious you wont be hitting every shot at 100km. You did know those tracking links wont actually increase sentry optimal or falloff?
Seth Mortis Lone Walker Corp 0	Posted - 2013.01.02 14:04:00 - [6] - Quote thx for the hint with the petition. didnt link that to bug report. hopefully i will get an awnser soon.
Seth Mortis Lone Walker Corp 0	Posted - 2013.01.02 14:08:00 - [7] - Quote Zak Matrix wrote: Well with max skills and without any drone tracking mods you get 75+30km range on warden II's, so its kinda obvious you wont be hitting every shot at 100km. You did know those tracking links wont actually increase sentry optimal or falloff? optimal of over 90km + falloff of 30km will hit anything stationary inside 120km range. i get misses on sentry guns below 100km range. and i provided a imagelink with infopanels. go SEE URSELF what the optimal is that is shown for a deployed drone. and there is no way warden hits only for 15(!!!) damage per hit on a target that is as close as 70km. Last year, just a few days back, my drones did hit for 100-400 on shield, and up to 1000 on stationary guns as soon as the shield/armor was taken down (depending on resitances etc pp). Now i hit for 15(!!!).
I Love Boobies All Hail Boobies 310	Posted - 2013.01.02 14:08:00 - [8] - Quote Never mind, read OPs post wrong. Was just saying all the sentries have different attributes and so on, used to have problems hitting things at distance until I figured out the different sentries have different attributes and so on. ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) ( o Y o ) The world would be a better place if boobies ran the world instead of boobs.
Rengerel en Distel Amarr Science and Industry 891	Posted - 2013.01.02 14:39:00 - [9] - Quote IIRC, drone attributes in space don't show correctly, they show the default values. You have to look at their stats while in the drone bay for the actual numbers. Could it be that you're fighting something with different resists this time compared to before?
Seth Mortis Lone Walker Corp 0	Posted - 2013.01.02 15:08:00 - [10] - Quote AGAIN: - the damage cant drop from worst case scenario of ca 120 damage (arround christmas) per drone hit against high resist targets to mere 15 damage per hit (and sometimes i DO get the propper damage of over 200 in the mission i picked up and noticed this. bnut 9 out of 10 drone hits i hit for arround 15)) - 4 out of 5 drones per round missing a target arround 100km compared to maybe 1 out of 20 hits missing, just a few days ago. the results are just way too different. i did lvl 4 missions with this setup just fine, without any probs (as long as i didnt get a bunch of missile npc's). i did even World's Collide without probs, although thats a mission many say they have total trouble with after the changes to drones. 91km optimal + 30km falloff, EVRYTHING arround 100km should almost always be a hit, as it was like just a few days ago. now its the total opposite.
Seth Mortis Lone Walker Corp 0	Posted - 2013.01.02 15:39:00 - [11] - Quote warped again into mission to make a few more screenshots of what im hitting. all at same type of npc mining drone. [img]http://s2.postimage.org/gvbjzjdn9/droneprob_hits.jpg[/img] if u look carefully u see a penetrate hit for as low as 22 and another penetrate hit for as high as 274, which a fgactor of more than 12! im aware that there are differences in the amount of damage when u hit. but this is (as much as i understand things) totally out of whack. regarding resistances. i have domi, gallente bs 5 more than 1 drone damage amp, sentry drones 5: 1.5 * 1.2 (only 1!!! drone damage amp) * 1.25 * 50 = 112.5 damage per drone to consistently hit only arround 25, the mining drone npc would need a kinetic resistance of over 75% !??? and i didnt include evry drone damage bonus i have. so that 75% would raise to about 85-90% resistance??? No matter how i look, i see a bug. so far no awnser on my petition.
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 838	Posted - 2013.01.02 15:40:00 - [12] - Quote I'll have to check this, use a snipe domi myself. But before that, have you trashed your cache or kicked out the "Machonet" folder from your EVE files yet? And edit: don't expect an answer soon on your petition with the holidays just behind us I think they got a nice big backlog by now. Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm...
Rutger Janssen Xanadu 47	Posted - 2013.01.02 15:53:00 - [13] - Quote Complex Potential wrote: I'm not playing the game right now but if you hit escape isn't there a "Petition" button somewhere on the option screen? EDIT: And for the record, I've not experienced this issue and I play in a very similar way with a Dominix and Bouncer IIs in Angel space. Petition is not the same as a bug report! There's an ingame bug reporting tool http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bug_reporting#Report_Bug_ingame_tool, but don't call it petition, it confuses people and might result in the wrong action. If you want to submit though the website, bugs.eveonline.com .
Archibald Thistlewaite III 36	Posted - 2013.01.02 16:08:00 - [14] - Quote Seth Mortis wrote: warped again into mission to make a few more screenshots of what im hitting. all at same type of npc mining drone. [img]http://s2.postimage.org/gvbjzjdn9/droneprob_hits.jpg[/img] if u look carefully u see a penetrate hit for as low as 22 and another penetrate hit for as high as 274, which a fgactor of more than 12! im aware that there are differences in the amount of damage when u hit. but this is (as much as i understand things) totally out of whack. regarding resistances. i have domi, gallente bs 5 more than 1 drone damage amp, sentry drones 5: 1.5 * 1.2 (only 1!!! drone damage amp) * 1.25 * 50 = 112.5 damage per drone to consistently hit only arround 25, the mining drone npc would need a kinetic resistance of over 75% !??? and i didnt include evry drone damage bonus i have. so that 75% would raise to about 85-90% resistance??? No matter how i look, i see a bug. so far no awnser on my petition. Are your drones being tracking disrupted or some other type of ewar? With the new AI drones get targeted a lot and NPC ewar is a pain at the moment.
Seth Mortis Lone Walker Corp 1	Posted - 2013.01.02 16:12:00 - [15] - Quote did send now a propper BUG report via website. here is another screeny with copied together tohits from the mission. ther is no way that i hit only for avg 25 with my drones with my skills and fitting. [img=http://s1.postimage.org/juwu9x74r/droneprob_hits2.jpg]
Seth Mortis Lone Walker Corp 1	Posted - 2013.01.02 16:21:00 - [16] - Quote Archibald Thistlewaite III wrote: Are your drones being tracking disrupted or some other type of ewar? With the new AI drones get targeted a lot and NPC ewar is a pain at the moment. in the last screeny u see exactly what im fighting. some kind of drones. the distance even to the closest one is over 110km. there are no ewar types visble to me. and checking http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/npc_ships.php for that type of drones, there are no drones listed with anything beside warp scrambling / webbing. this type of drone uis listed with 70% kinetic resistance, not with almost 90% like it would imply (from my skills and the actual damagei do). another thing to mention. look at the right side at my drones shield/armor/structure. Notice this red bar? my drones afre NOT damage. fresh+¦ly repaired (checked) and warped right to mission. just deployed and u see the shield is still intact. this red bar does VANISH after some time (tis is the second pocket of the mission, had it already in first pocket, wher i could stay longer to see it happen). but i cant kills **** with my drones doing 22 damage a pop in a lvl 4 mission.
MisterNick The Sagan Clan Pax Romana Alliance 192	Posted - 2013.01.02 16:41:00 - [17] - Quote Drones in space do get the benefit of skills and mods fitted, it just doesn't show on their info tab for some reason that's never been fixed. "Human beings make life so interesting. Do you know that in a universe so full of wonders, they have managed to invent boredom."
Xercodo Xovoni Directorate 2023	Posted - 2013.01.02 17:12:00 - [18] - Quote Btw a really handy bug report tool on the help window It even automatically sends basic info like what OS you're using and what version of EVE it is And it even has a screenshot tool that you can use to crop out your information windows and use arrow to point at the optimals and label each window with text like "in-drone bay" and "after launched" The Drake is a Lie
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 1345	Posted - 2013.01.02 18:34:00 - [19] - Quote Djana Libra wrote: theres a thing called bug report might work better than posting in a forum Youre new to GD arent you.... *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*

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