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Catharian Sabezan
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:11:00 -
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Check out this recent analysis of Something Awful forum web traffic over the past 2 years, done by Alexa.com. Put the interval on max (2 years) and you can see the clearly decreasing web traffic on Something Awful forums. In another year or 2, they will be even less consequential. For those of you who dont know, this is the main internet forum that Goonswarm recruits from. This allows them to run recruiting scams on new players who dont realize that Goonswarm doesnt recruit from the main Eve population.
Goonswarm's player base has already decreased significantly this year. My point, is to stop kowtowing to an alliance that will be relegated to minor status in the not so distant future. Frankly there are other alliances, and not to mention hi sec players who have deserving of more attention than GS deserves.
http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/somethingawful.com |

leoplusma
Delfus Inc. HumAnnoyeD
201
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:14:00 -
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what |

Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
276
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:17:00 -
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its not ccp,its the players who allow the influence of alliance(or guild or whatever you call it in other games) to take control
if every highsec player care as much about the game as GS does,GS would be wiped out in a week - (un)fortunately most of people simply dont give a fck |

Dave stark
1418
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:19:00 -
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translation
Quote:dear ccp,
i am biased against goons, do something.
yours tearfully, some scrub on the forum. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Ishihiro tanaka
NED-Clan Goonswarm Federation
18
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:21:00 -
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I fully endorse this product and/or service. We will become meaningless in 2013, just you wait and see!
Want to become a Goonswarm member? Please contact me in game or send an eve-mail!
Proud recruiter for the Goonswarm Federation. We have space for rent, contact me ingame! Supers for sale via the trusted third-party service of TheMittani. Dozens of satisfied customers bought or sold theit super, join their ranks. Convo me! |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3224
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:23:00 -
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The only influence I am currently seeing is that apparently they are capable of generating hysteria in you. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
545
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:27:00 -
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CCP doesn't allow it, we all do. Or rather, Goons take their EVE much more seriously than most other players to a point where 500 poopsocking neckbeards will make for victories on the battlefield. Cultural victory at its finest tbh. Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything.
Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish |

Duran Veldspur
Rebel Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:27:00 -
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Ishihiro tanaka wrote:I fully endorse this product and/or service. We will become meaningless in 2013, just you wait and see!
Want to become a Goonswarm member? Please contact me in game or send an eve-mail!
Proud recruiter for the Goonswarm Federation. We have space for rent, contact me ingame! Supers for sale via the trusted third-party service of TheMittani. Dozens of satisfied customers bought or sold theit super, join their ranks. Convo me!
I hear they take donations too. Such a charitable group.
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Sentient Blade
Walk It Off
681
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:30:00 -
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It doesn't matter where they're recruited from, unless it's illegal. Their external base has nothing to do with how they have their influence in EVE.
The problem is how the mechanics allow larger alliances to monopolise large areas without necessarally using them, and how that puts obsticles in the way of other alliances growing to challenge them.
The problem with this problem is that salted-earth is a valid tactic. |

Dave stark
1419
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:31:00 -
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Vilnius Zar wrote:CCP doesn't allow it, we all do. Or rather, Goons take their EVE much more seriously than most other players to a point where 500 poopsocking neckbeards will make for victories on the battlefield. Cultural victory at it's finest tbh.
this mentality amuses me. "they do something we can't, must throw an insult in here because..."
actually, why do you do that? does it make you feel better about yourself? is it a way to vent jealousy? honestly, it baffles me. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Catharian Sabezan
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:31:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:translation Quote:dear ccp,
i am biased against goons, do something.
yours tearfully, some scrub on the forum.
Au contraire, I am merely a concerned Eve citizen who sees that dangerous misbalance of power in this game can have a detrimental experience on everyone's game experience.
As you can see by GS's declining player base, esp. this year, and now the death knell is sounding , with the decline of the Something awful forums from which they recruit, you can easily see GS is in decline.
I am merely pointing out to CCP that they can finally stop bending backwards everytime the Goons scream about something. This is good thing for the game. Whats wrong with that? |

Lexmana
808
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:32:00 -
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I think OP might be on to something or on something or something. |

Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
401
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:33:00 -
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Catharian Sabezan wrote:Check out this recent analysis of Something Awful forum web traffic over the past 2 years, done by Alexa.com. Put the interval on max (2 years) and you can see the clearly decreasing web traffic on Something Awful forums. In another year or 2, they will be even less consequential. For those of you who dont know, this is the main internet forum that Goonswarm recruits from. This allows them to run recruiting scams on new players who dont realize that Goonswarm doesnt recruit from the main Eve population. Goonswarm's player base has already decreased significantly this year. My point, is to stop kowtowing to an alliance that will be relegated to minor status in the not so distant future. Frankly there are other alliances, and not to mention hi sec players who have deserving of more attention than GS deserves. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/somethingawful.com
What has CCP to do with this?
_______________________________________ Don't be scared, because being afk is not a crime. |

leoplusma
Delfus Inc. HumAnnoyeD
201
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:35:00 -
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Rordan D'Kherr wrote:Catharian Sabezan wrote:Check out this recent analysis of Something Awful forum web traffic over the past 2 years, done by Alexa.com. Put the interval on max (2 years) and you can see the clearly decreasing web traffic on Something Awful forums. In another year or 2, they will be even less consequential. For those of you who dont know, this is the main internet forum that Goonswarm recruits from. This allows them to run recruiting scams on new players who dont realize that Goonswarm doesnt recruit from the main Eve population. Goonswarm's player base has already decreased significantly this year. My point, is to stop kowtowing to an alliance that will be relegated to minor status in the not so distant future. Frankly there are other alliances, and not to mention hi sec players who have deserving of more attention than GS deserves. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/somethingawful.com What has CCP to do with this?
thats where my laconic 'what' post in first reply. he says ccp blah blah in the title, then links us to alexa and somethingawful dying site.
troll or possible attempt to raise the stats in his forum
leo |

Alara IonStorm
4276
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:35:00 -
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Catharian Sabezan wrote: I am merely pointing out to CCP that they can finally stop bending backwards everytime the Goons scream about something. This is good thing for the game. Whats wrong with that?
Point to where they have bended over backwards at all for Goonswarm. I have not seen them give Goonswarm one thing at all.
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Dave stark
1419
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:35:00 -
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Catharian Sabezan wrote:Dave stark wrote:translation Quote:dear ccp,
i am biased against goons, do something.
yours tearfully, some scrub on the forum. Au contraire, I am merely a concerned Eve citizen who sees that dangerous misbalance of power in this game can have a detrimental experience on everyone's game experience. As you can see by GS's declining player base, esp. this year, and now the death knell is sounding , with the decline of the Something awful forums from which they recruit, you can easily see GS is in decline. I am merely pointing out to CCP that they can finally stop bending backwards everytime the Goons scream about something. This is good thing for the game. Whats wrong with that?
and what was the last thing ccp did to "bend over backwards" for goons? if you can give me a proper answer to that, i'll give you a pack of tissues to dry your eyes with.
i fail to see how there's a misbalance of power anywhere either, to be blunt. at least, not one caused by anything other than the players. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
545
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:36:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Vilnius Zar wrote:CCP doesn't allow it, we all do. Or rather, Goons take their EVE much more seriously than most other players to a point where 500 poopsocking neckbeards will make for victories on the battlefield. Cultural victory at it's finest tbh. this mentality amuses me. "they do something we can't, must throw an insult in here because..." actually, why do you do that? does it make you feel better about yourself? is it a way to vent jealousy? honestly, it baffles me.
That's a lot of words to say "umad" so props for that. And no, as much as you'd hope me to be, I'm not mad or care at all, I'm simply replying to the OP explaining that it's not CCP that makes it happen it's us the players. Me, you and everyone else. People who want something more than others will probably get it. If I wanted it I'd probably do something about it but as I don't that means I'm not "mad", no.
The last time I lived in 0.0 (and for a short stint only) was in 2009, I simply can't deal with morons, clowns, retards and jokers and as being in a large corp/alliance by definition means you'll run into those quite a lot I choose to pass on that. As such I'm not affected by anything that happens in 0.0, or anywhere else really. Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything.
Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish |

Nerath Naaris
Pink Winged Unicorns for Peace Love and Anarchy
325
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:38:00 -
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Something Awful is dying, you read it here first! Forum-unbanned since 2011.10.20. |

Dave stark
1419
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:40:00 -
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Vilnius Zar wrote:Dave stark wrote:Vilnius Zar wrote:CCP doesn't allow it, we all do. Or rather, Goons take their EVE much more seriously than most other players to a point where 500 poopsocking neckbeards will make for victories on the battlefield. Cultural victory at it's finest tbh. this mentality amuses me. "they do something we can't, must throw an insult in here because..." actually, why do you do that? does it make you feel better about yourself? is it a way to vent jealousy? honestly, it baffles me. That's a lot of words to say "umad" so props for that. And no, as much as you'd hope me to be, I'm not mad or care at all, I'm simply replying to the OP explaining that it's not CCP that makes it happen it's us the players. Me, you and everyone else. People who want something more than others will probably get it. If I wanted it I'd probably do something about it but as I don't that means I'm not "mad", no. The last time I lived in 0.0 (and for a short stint only) was in 2009, I simply can't deal with morons, clowns, retards and jokers and as being in a large corp/alliance by definition means you'll run into those quite a lot I choose to pass on that. As such I'm not affected by anything that happens in 0.0, or anywhere else really.
ah, it's frustration with the way 0.0 works. a valid reason, i suppose. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system." |

Jandice Ymladris
Order Of Steel
247
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:44:00 -
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This pops up regulary, however, every few years the names change. I'm no fan of Goonswarm, but I do admire how they solidly controll their part of nullsec for so long.
Know your history, once Goonswarm were heralded as heroes, ushering in a new age after the Fall of BoB, but let a hero live long enough, and he'll become the new villian. Empires rise, empires fall, some last longer then others. Once people trembled & raged about BoB, claiming they could not been beaten, now it's GoonSwarm, over a few years, perhaps a new Order will rise, and we'll think back on the *good old times*, when Goonswarm proved a true challenge, organized ganking events and what other things we might remember them for.
Just keep this in mind, Empires stay in power, not because people support them, but because the opposition rather fights amongst itself on what should be, instead of rising up as one front. |

Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
13395
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:45:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:The only influence I am currently seeing is that apparently they are capable of generating hysteria in you. Not empty quoting.
CCP Zulu..... Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |

Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
3226
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:45:00 -
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Vilnius Zar wrote:Dave stark wrote:Vilnius Zar wrote:CCP doesn't allow it, we all do. Or rather, Goons take their EVE much more seriously than most other players to a point where 500 poopsocking neckbeards will make for victories on the battlefield. Cultural victory at it's finest tbh. this mentality amuses me. "they do something we can't, must throw an insult in here because..." actually, why do you do that? does it make you feel better about yourself? is it a way to vent jealousy? honestly, it baffles me. That's a lot of words to say "umad" so props for that. And no, as much as you'd hope me to be, I'm not mad or care at all, I'm simply replying to the OP explaining that it's not CCP that makes it happen it's us the players. Me, you and everyone else. People who want something more than others will probably get it. If I wanted it I'd probably do something about it but as I don't that means I'm not "mad", no. The last time I lived in 0.0 (and for a short stint only) was in 2009, I simply can't deal with morons, clowns, retards and jokers and as being in a large corp/alliance by definition means you'll run into those quite a lot I choose to pass on that. As such I'm not affected by anything that happens in 0.0, or anywhere else really. But you see, having all those various types together in one place makes it much more convenient to ridicule them. 
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |

Vilnius Zar
Ordo Ardish
545
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:48:00 -
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Sure, for a while :) But then the anger takes over and I start explaining to said morons, in detail, that they are indeed morons. This generally doesn't sit well with the CEO. Amat victoria curam. Excellence in everything.
Some guides that may be useful to you: http://www.youtube.com/user/OrdoArdish |

HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
342
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:56:00 -
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allow us to have more influence, thanks in advance Follow me on twitter |

Remiel Pollard
Aliastra Gallente Federation
1041
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Posted - 2013.01.02 14:57:00 -
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Catharian Sabezan wrote:...not to mention hi sec players who have deserving of more attention than GS deserves.
So... what you're saying is, you're sad that they're getting all the attention that you're missing out on, so you posted a thread to try to get some?
Do you realise that by posting another thread about gewns, you're giving them more attention?
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Catharian Sabezan
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:06:00 -
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Dave stark wrote:Catharian Sabezan wrote:Dave stark wrote:translation Quote:dear ccp,
i am biased against goons, do something.
yours tearfully, some scrub on the forum. Au contraire, I am merely a concerned Eve citizen who sees that dangerous misbalance of power in this game can have a detrimental experience on everyone's game experience. As you can see by GS's declining player base, esp. this year, and now the death knell is sounding , with the decline of the Something awful forums from which they recruit, you can easily see GS is in decline. I am merely pointing out to CCP that they can finally stop bending backwards everytime the Goons scream about something. This is good thing for the game. Whats wrong with that? and what was the last thing ccp did to "bend over backwards" for goons? if you can give me a proper answer to that, i'll give you a pack of tissues to dry your eyes with. i fail to see how there's a misbalance of power anywhere either, to be blunt. at least, not one caused by anything other than the players.
Its strange that 90% of the tech moons in this game are controlled by Goons or their pets. Sorry that is not balanced, when multiple people and alliances have called for redistribution and CCP does nothing?
Let me also give you multiple instances where CCP bent over backwards, due to the demands from Goons to nerf hi sec. 1. Removal of lvl 5 missions from highsec 2. Removal of alot of minerals from missions 3. Huge tax increase on npc corps to 11% due to whining from GS again. 4. Believe it or not, members in GS were the most influential in getting this current NPC AI disaster that we currently have.
There you go, multiple instances where CCP bent over backwards to satisfy GS. Granted you are not the biggest allliance anymore, but you were a very vocal crowd and vocal crowds often get their way if they scream loud enough.
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Randolph Rothstein
whatever corp.
276
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:10:00 -
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this thread will soon turn into nerf high sec
/nothing to do here |

HVAC Repairman
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
342
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:11:00 -
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Catharian Sabezan wrote:Dave stark wrote:Catharian Sabezan wrote:Dave stark wrote:translation Quote:dear ccp,
i am biased against goons, do something.
yours tearfully, some scrub on the forum. Au contraire, I am merely a concerned Eve citizen who sees that dangerous misbalance of power in this game can have a detrimental experience on everyone's game experience. As you can see by GS's declining player base, esp. this year, and now the death knell is sounding , with the decline of the Something awful forums from which they recruit, you can easily see GS is in decline. I am merely pointing out to CCP that they can finally stop bending backwards everytime the Goons scream about something. This is good thing for the game. Whats wrong with that? and what was the last thing ccp did to "bend over backwards" for goons? if you can give me a proper answer to that, i'll give you a pack of tissues to dry your eyes with. i fail to see how there's a misbalance of power anywhere either, to be blunt. at least, not one caused by anything other than the players. Its strange that 90% of the tech moons in this game are controlled by Goons or their pets. Sorry that is not balanced, when multiple people and alliances have called for redistribution and CCP does nothing? Let me also give you multiple instances where CCP bent over backwards, due to the demands from Goons to nerf hi sec. 1. Removal of lvl 5 missions from highsec 2. Removal of alot of minerals from missions 3. Huge tax increase on npc corps to 11% due to whining from GS again. 4. Believe it or not, members in GS were the most influential in getting this current NPC AI disaster that we currently have. There you go, multiple instances where CCP bent over backwards to satisfy GS. Granted you are not the biggest allliance anymore, but you were a very vocal crowd and vocal crowds often get their way if they scream loud enough. so what you're saying is that we've had a positive influence on the game
Follow me on twitter |

iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
236
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:11:00 -
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CCP have to support goonswarm because most CCP devs are former goons. Track your wealth with EVEStats - https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/home.php |

Catharian Sabezan
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2013.01.02 15:13:00 -
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Randolph Rothstein wrote:this thread will soon turn into nerf high sec
/nothing to do here
probably, but that is reflective of the power they wield in this forum. Its just more proof of the validity of my statements. |
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