Enlighten us, oh wise one.

NRDS works just fine.

So the case was made for NRDS.

People rushed in making the case for NBSI.


NRDS is a failure, say those who shoot anything that is not blue.


So, how's that empty and boring nullsec working out for ya?

Build more.

See what you did there?

Goons gonna Goon . . .

Of course, all that pales in comparison with the incredible investment that hi-sec industrialists have to put in. It can take several minutes to scroll through all the available slots in Sobaseki, for instance. I guess we should be grateful we don't have to endure anything like that.

Go go Gadget forum warrior.

free PI and a couple of national ICE Ops, running a POS shouldn't cost you anything.

The trouble with you and all your pets is, you built an empire on the power of ISK, seen through the lense and dictated by the values of high sec. Your ISK backed empire depends on pubie scrubs like me to do your dirty work. Mine your Ice, Mine your low end minerals, build your trash modules, react your junk components. You don't want autonomy, you want the throne. Because at the end of the day you don't have the active members to do it all and keep you out of Jita.

You sound more and more like an RMTer every day. Ships and pods to fill them hold the power in EVE Null sec and you seem a little too obsessed with the ISK. To be fair, maybe you were taught Sov 101 by an RMTer but either way you stand to lose because as Madoff showed the world, all good scams come to an end.

It already is.

There are, as I understand it, calls to make it easier and thus more amenable to these "sissies". But isn't that the trend with all games nowadays?

Maybe it's true that folks just aren't as tough as they used to be.

I really, really wanted to stay off this thread because of course it started talking about one thing and of course it got derailed in the current mittani.com propaganda like every single other vaguely 0.0 pertinent thread, where you see the same 4-5 Goonwaffe professional forum warriors twisting every topic to suit their current agenda.

I was thinking just that.
With risk comes reward, no?
The reward of telling the Ice bots to sod off, the reward of knowing you have 4000 Home made Taloe, fully fitted sitting in your Outpost if someone shows up to contest you.

Not good enough though is it?
You want the ISK pile.

Ulterior motives. Hmmm

Not surprised you did not make past the first lines.

If they don't do those things in null, then they aren't null sec players.

Okay . . . what is NVEDS?

Null sec industrialists have access to a greater abundance of building materials. I thought we'd gone over this. Are you genuinely not getting that? Are you playing stupid? Or are you stupid? You can have a bajillion slots, but if you don't have the material to build the item, then that becomes the limiting factor. High sec has slots. Null sec has mats. You want null sec to have both and I suspect you'd like high sec to have neither.

You come tell this to someone who would like to have hi sec = 3 starting systems and the rest NPC null sec?

Says the Alliance that wants to play omnipotent over lord and won't share their toys with anyone who doesn't pay 10bux.