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Ocih
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:11:00 -
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NRDS works just fine.
The Alliance standings entry limit should be at around 100,000 but that has nothing to do with NRDS. It would be nice to see formal NAP flagging too. If Goons and FA are part of a Coalition, they should have a flag system that identifies one another as CFC. Provi Bloc, same thing. Thus freeing up blue standings options.
The strange thing I found about NBSI was, they all have reds. With NRDS you need to set Blue to eliminate station costs but with NBSI, it's all fair game. The last NBSI alliance I was in even went so far as to set the uber enemies -5 orange because they had so many reds, they needed a new way to define the people I would have shot at anyway? |
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:27:00 -
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Andski wrote:Ocih wrote:NRDS works just fine. yes, because every NRDS alliance is effectively NBSI because they set every NBSI group in existence red
That is by choice of the reds though. You don't seem to or don't want to understand that NRDS at least in the case of CVA is defined by piracy as well. Not only is CVA NRDS, they are anti pirate. I left several fleets in my Provi years because they shot at your Yong POS guys. It was done as an unprovoked act of piracy and was in conflict with CVA doctrine. If you refuse to roleplay your own code of conduct, you are worse than the people who don't bother to even have a self imposed code of conduct. |
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Posted - 2013.01.04 17:42:00 -
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Proletariat Tingtango wrote:NRDS sounds like a really cool gimmick to abuse to set-up some kind of honeypot where a lot of things get blown up.
Your tin foil hat is showing.
Granted, yes it is open to abuse. Most things in EVE are. Every Anti pirate, NRDS alliance and corp I have encountered had a genuine desire to allow neutrals freedom of movement. If for no other reason than that was the type of member they attracted by claiming it as a goal. Corruption will happen. It happens in CVA, it happens in GSF, it happens in CCP. Policy or doctrine don't get dictated by the corrupt. That's a losing battle. |
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Posted - 2013.01.04 21:37:00 -
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Skex Relbore wrote:
Long rant about other people
Rocks and glass houses.
The only alliance to come out of the NC collapse with their SOV was Lawn. |
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Posted - 2013.01.04 21:57:00 -
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Cameron Cahill wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:So the case was made for NRDS.
People rushed in making the case for NBSI.
NRDS is a failure, say those who shoot anything that is not blue.
So, how's that empty and boring nullsec working out for ya?
Fine as everyone that actually lives in null knows its not empty.
This is pretty hard to deny. You don't even need to live there. Just look at the rat kills and system jumps on the map. None of it is "empty".
Most High sec people just ask why it is they are the ones getting beat over the back with the nerf bat every time one of CCP's spread sheets don't look all tidy and proper. |
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Posted - 2013.01.04 22:13:00 -
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Skex Relbore wrote:Ocih wrote:Cameron Cahill wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:So the case was made for NRDS.
People rushed in making the case for NBSI.
NRDS is a failure, say those who shoot anything that is not blue.
So, how's that empty and boring nullsec working out for ya?
Fine as everyone that actually lives in null knows its not empty. This is pretty hard to deny. You don't even need to live there. Just look at the rat kills and system jumps on the map. None of it is "empty". Most High sec people just ask why it is they are the ones getting beat over the back with the nerf bat every time one of CCP's spread sheets don't look all tidy and proper. I blame it on the same cry babies who come up with such brilliance as suggesting that the way to fix null is to emulate people who chose to role play racists.
Again with the baseless snipes.
That's what got you in to this argument. Good thing those Lawn guys before you weren't so eager to shitpost on GD or you wouldn't have any space to be bragging about.
Get back on the porch, Son.
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Posted - 2013.01.04 22:20:00 -
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Lord Zim wrote:Ocih wrote:This is pretty hard to deny. You don't even need to live there. Just look at the rat kills and system jumps on the map. None of it is "empty". Look at the map, figure out which percentage of it has >10 people in it. Ocih wrote:Most High sec people just ask why it is they are the ones getting beat over the back with the nerf bat every time one of CCP's spread sheets don't look all tidy and proper. As opposed to nullsec, which got thoroughly pissed on fun-wise around dominion and has been hit with nerfbat after nerfbat to the point where most people spend their off-PVP time in hisec, lowsec, WHs etc instead? Yeah, about that...
I kicked and screamed when Null got nerfed too and I wasn't even in Null at the time.
That's the flaw to NBSI.
Everyone is your enemy, even when they aren't. I don't need to be NBSI. I don't need to look for a fight behind every gate. I can let the neut warp away. I still get more fights than I can handle. Go figure.
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Posted - 2013.01.06 14:07:00 -
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Mayhaw Morgan wrote:It's NRDS, "not red, don't shoot". It isn't "not red, let it kill you and die a pacifist and forget who it was so they never get set to red". NRDS, or, in other words, RS.
And, NBSI isn't "not blue, shoot it". NBSI is "not blue, and I can kill it, shoot it, otherwise run for the nearest fairy bubble and squawk like a chicken in the intel channel".
How does killing a noob miner or noob ratter in his first cruiser make your space any safer from the roving gangs of people you've pissed off or who want to use your people for their entertainment? So, there's a spy in your otherwise empty system? Who cares? So there's someone in one of "YOUR" complexes? According to a lot of you, he'd have made more profit running missions in high sec, anyway.
NBSI just pisses off anyone who tries to go on an adventure outside of high sec, and the result isn't that your precious space is "safer", just emptier. Nor your resources more abundant, since there's no one there to develop them, they just sit there, raw, useless, unappreciating.
People are a resource. The one place with tons of people, high sec, flourishes, even though null sec has far more of everything else.
NBSI is just laziness and cowardice. You don't want to police your own people, some of whom are nut jobs who only want to kill everything they come into contact with, and you're just scared of them. NBSI is the result.
It lets them NAP train and shiv their own blues too. It's all a product of free for all though. Easy button wins the day. |
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