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sweeeeeeety
State Protectorate
Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2013.01.04 11:41:00 -
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Dear ccp, i know many people who think exectly as i do. We all just want to have an opportunity of testing cruisers, bc, bs.
But as soon as we placed on ca1 or ca2 the most case we automaticly are a primary target for cap ships. They dont want to shoot to each other they just want popping people which are smaller.
I'd like u ccp guys just set spots as it was in 2008 at sisi. I will remind what was marked like at that time:
1 arena for whole ships in the game
2 arena for evey type of ships except cap ships
3 arena for bc, crusirers
4 arena for cruisers and smaller
5 arena for frigs and destroyers
Thank u for attention and hopping ull do it best way. |
My Way Atild
Nomine infernum
legionum tenebrae
0
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Posted - 2013.01.04 11:58:00 -
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I totally agree. Testing has become unbearable. This complicates the testing of new ships and battle tactics. Ask clean up. |
Ugolovnik
SOLAR WING
2
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Posted - 2013.01.04 13:05:00 -
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Yes
Some will break the rules, but as a whole will still be better. |
J3ssica Biel
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
31
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Posted - 2013.01.04 14:01:00 -
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no |
sweeeeeeety
State Protectorate
Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.01.04 14:32:00 -
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said the pilot of titan only |
Night Condor
TRUE GONER Executors
TERRA REGNUM
24
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Posted - 2013.01.04 14:57:00 -
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TOTALLY agree!!! |
Xynthiar
Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2013.01.04 15:13:00 -
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There's a reason these rules were removed; CCP/BH simply didn't have time to enforce them, and that is probably still the case. |
My Way Atild
Nomine infernum
legionum tenebrae
1
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Posted - 2013.01.04 16:19:00 -
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These guys are for capital ships in the way. They require separate arenas. This is a big problem. |
LOST TEMPLAR
3V Corp
0
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Posted - 2013.01.04 18:57:00 -
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return arenas + 10000 |
Comodore John
Mortis Angelus
THORN Alliance
33
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Posted - 2013.01.04 19:36:00 -
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There's a system one jump over that has no capitals on market or in system.... |
sweeeeeeety
State Protectorate
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.01.04 20:17:00 -
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Comodore John wrote:There's a system one jump over that has no capitals on market or in system....
really? with the combat action? 4 kills for 24h. i think the capitals should move there |
Comodore John
Mortis Angelus
THORN Alliance
33
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Posted - 2013.01.04 22:56:00 -
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sweeeeeeety wrote:Comodore John wrote:There's a system one jump over that has no capitals on market or in system.... really? with the combat action? 4 kills for 24h. i think the capitals should move there
If all the people that complained about caps would go there, it'd be much more than 4. PVH is the designated sub cap system, it won't be switched no matter how much you complain because in the end, the test server is not there to be used as your personal EFT playground. |
sweeeeeeety
State Protectorate
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2013.01.05 07:52:00 -
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Comodore John wrote:sweeeeeeety wrote:Comodore John wrote:There's a system one jump over that has no capitals on market or in system.... really? with the combat action? 4 kills for 24h. i think the capitals should move there If all the people that complained about caps would go there, it'd be much more than 4. PVH is the designated sub cap system, it won't be switched no matter how much you complain because in the end, the test server is not there to be used as your personal EFT playground.
it would be personal if i was alone in that. but at least 50% would support that idea. no one wants to fight some1 who gets a cap support when he loses just for to kill u and not let to die his own ALT.
the separation from caps is extremely required. |
TharOkha
0asis Group
482
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Posted - 2013.01.05 09:03:00 -
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Comodore John wrote:the test server is not there to be used as your personal EFT playground.
Do you realize that it is pure playground for capitals pilots right now?
GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
5
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Posted - 2013.01.05 22:38:00 -
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as for CCP. I am pretty sure they don't really care about this issue. Its just not a priority. The test server exists as a tool to help them develop eve and dust.
The test server does not exist to ensure that you get a fair fight in ships that have no value.
if you want a fair fight, arrange one.
You are lucky that CCP is nice enough to let players use their development testing server. |
Skydell
Bad Girl Posse
489
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Posted - 2013.01.06 17:54:00 -
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They do care or they would have a Titan seed.
I think it would of a mutual benefit if they had Super Cap seeds out in Syndicate or some place and let people splode their supers all day long.
Test systems with beacons, Supers are off limits. I've never figured out why they had to be so contrary on this issue. |
tachet
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
0
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Posted - 2013.01.07 00:48:00 -
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I cannot agree more, I much preferred the old days (FFA 1 sub cap and under ect).
With regards to CCP not having time to enforce the rules previously it was the players who enforced the rules, I remember a few times caps were in the wrong FFA they were asked to leave and if not everyone ganged up on them, Simplez.
My life doesn't depend on the test server but when I actually want to test something I would prefer not being overrun by caps. |
Stuhami
Sundown Logistics
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
4
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Posted - 2013.01.07 07:29:00 -
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I agree completely,
In the future, when ccp Does the BC and up balancing , the need to get quality fights to see what is OP and what is not, what is working correctly and what is not is going to increase. Capital ships hinder the ability to test out the new game mechanics, modules, ships and how these all fall into place.
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Xynthiar
Shattered Empire
12
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Posted - 2013.01.07 08:29:00 -
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tachet wrote:With regards to CCP not having time to enforce the rules previously it was the players who enforced the rules, I remember a few times caps were in the wrong FFA they were asked to leave and if not everyone ganged up on them, Simplez.
You don't need a name on the beacon to do this though. |
Matthew97
Pro Synergy
ARK.
149
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Posted - 2013.01.07 08:46:00 -
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As much as I loved the old system, it was just becoming to much of an issue to keep checking reports, banning people etc for stupid rule violations (which i believe encourage people to do this).
The new system is much better as it mirrors the Live Server much more closely in terms of the randomness.
This isn't a place to test PVP fits, its a place for CCP to test server updates etc, when there's no testing going on (like now) then as a benefit we can use it to test fits etc but don't expect any support for it.
If you really don't like caps and **** go next door to PVH and convince other people to go with you as its not very well known. |
sweeeeeeety
State Protectorate
Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.01.07 12:04:00 -
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Matthew97 wrote:As much as I loved the old system, it was just becoming to much of an issue to keep checking reports, banning people etc for stupid rule violations (which i believe encourage people to do this).
The new system is much better as it mirrors the Live Server much more closely in terms of the randomness.
This isn't a place to test PVP fits, its a place for CCP to test server updates etc, when there's no testing going on (like now) then as a benefit we can use it to test fits etc but don't expect any support for it.
If you really don't like caps and **** go next door to PVH and convince other people to go with you as its not very well known.
oh stop talking about PVH.. no one there, would u stay in empty system all day just to wait untill the fight begins? that could actually not begin at all for a WHOLE DAY!
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Matthew97
Pro Synergy
ARK.
149
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Posted - 2013.01.07 13:24:00 -
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sweeeeeeety wrote:Matthew97 wrote:As much as I loved the old system, it was just becoming to much of an issue to keep checking reports, banning people etc for stupid rule violations (which i believe encourage people to do this).
The new system is much better as it mirrors the Live Server much more closely in terms of the randomness.
This isn't a place to test PVP fits, its a place for CCP to test server updates etc, when there's no testing going on (like now) then as a benefit we can use it to test fits etc but don't expect any support for it.
If you really don't like caps and **** go next door to PVH and convince other people to go with you as its not very well known. oh stop talking about PVH.. no one there, would u stay in empty system all day just to wait untill the fight begins? that could actually not begin at all for a WHOLE DAY!
Well how about you use your brains and go "HEY, WHO WANTS TO HAVE A 1V1 / 2V2"or whatever and then organize it.
As said before, this isn't a server to test your fits or your "tactics". So stop crying and be glad you have this facility available in the first place, or even better, log into TQ where there are fights available 23/7 |
Aglais
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
177
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Posted - 2013.01.07 16:58:00 -
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You do realize that there's a secondary testing system right next door that's seeded with everything required for subcapital testing.
No capitals are seeded, and the system is cyno jammed. Move there and you'll give others who think similarly an incentive to move, because it is always empty. |
iskflakes
Magnets Inc.
253
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Posted - 2013.01.07 18:28:00 -
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Aglais wrote:You do realize that there's a secondary testing system right next door that's seeded with everything required for subcapital testing.
No capitals are seeded, and the system is cyno jammed. Move there and you'll give others who think similarly an incentive to move, because it is always empty.
This. They created that system to stop these kind of threads by people who think the test server's are their personal PVP arena.
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Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
64
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:44:00 -
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sweeeeeeety wrote:Comodore John wrote:sweeeeeeety wrote:Comodore John wrote:There's a system one jump over that has no capitals on market or in system.... really? with the combat action? 4 kills for 24h. i think the capitals should move there If all the people that complained about caps would go there, it'd be much more than 4. PVH is the designated sub cap system, it won't be switched no matter how much you complain because in the end, the test server is not there to be used as your personal EFT playground. it would be personal if i was alone in that. but at least 50% would support that idea. no one wants to fight some1 who gets a cap support when he loses just for to kill u and not let to die his own ALT. the separation from caps is extremely required. the only persons who don't want it just doing that kind of coward stuffs by themself.
I agree bring back arena beacons...most of the friction that will come from this is the ppl you are specifically complaining about. Dont believe me? Read up^^ and below this comment for proof
Oderint Dum Metuant |
Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
8
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Posted - 2013.01.09 20:59:00 -
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Matthew97 wrote:As much as I loved the old system, it was just becoming to much of an issue to keep checking reports, banning people etc for stupid rule violations (which i believe encourage people to do this).
The new system is much better as it mirrors the Live Server much more closely in terms of the randomness.
This isn't a place to test PVP fits, its a place for CCP to test server updates etc, when there's no testing going on (like now) then as a benefit we can use it to test fits etc but don't expect any support for it.
If you really don't like caps and **** go next door to PVH and convince other people to go with you as its not very well known.
This. when they say "test" server. They mean testing for the purpose of development. Not testing your ships to see how well you can blow other people up with X gear. |
Alex Grison
Grison Interstellar
8
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Posted - 2013.01.09 20:59:00 -
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Accidental Double Post. please ignore |
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CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
1340
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Posted - 2013.01.16 08:43:00 -
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Hey guys,
If everyone who posted in this thread, or feels the same way as those posting, just started living out of PVH, this problem wouldn't exist. Yes, it takes time for change to be effective, but it also takes effort - your effort specifically. There's a very obvious reason that we can't make PVH the cap system and 6-C the subcap system, and that is the MoveMe bot. For the same reason, we aren't going to seed supers in Syndicate or anywhere else.
EDIT: There is no way for us to specifically gate areas for subcap combat (except the obvious acceleration gates) without basically turning a combat beacon into a glorified gatecamp. That's not an area we want to go down when all the tools are present to achieve what all parties want right now.
CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Syn Fatelyng
Redanni
84
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Posted - 2013.01.19 16:23:00 -
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Joyriding should never impeded bug testing. |
Derath Ellecon
Washburne Holdings
Situation: Normal
1061
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Posted - 2013.01.21 00:42:00 -
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sweeeeeeety wrote:Matthew97 wrote:As much as I loved the old system, it was just becoming to much of an issue to keep checking reports, banning people etc for stupid rule violations (which i believe encourage people to do this).
The new system is much better as it mirrors the Live Server much more closely in terms of the randomness.
This isn't a place to test PVP fits, its a place for CCP to test server updates etc, when there's no testing going on (like now) then as a benefit we can use it to test fits etc but don't expect any support for it.
If you really don't like caps and **** go next door to PVH and convince other people to go with you as its not very well known. oh stop talking about PVH.. no one there, would u stay in empty system all day just to wait untill the fight begins? that could actually not begin at all for a WHOLE DAY!
And who's fault is that? Someone has to step up and lead. I know I'd jump one system over in a heartbeat if somone in local posted that a bunch of pilots were heading next door for some good no cap fights. |
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