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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:16:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Shikari on 12/06/2005 20:16:16
Who here isn't whining about the changes, is actually quite excited, and stays because new content makes things interesting?
 Kudos to CCP for working on EVE, and thanks for everything. Ignore the idiots.
I, for one, am not going to quit EVE because my torpedoes no longer do full damage to interceptors.
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Lyle Waters
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:28:00 -
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Every change is a challenge. Adapt. Yes, change is good...
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Goberth Ludwig
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:30:00 -
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I am going to quit eve because u made this post 
Ebil Shikari !!
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:30:00 -
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I'm quite indifferent to the missile changes. They are needed, and seem to be right to me (fully trained caldari bs pilot, and a caldari specialised second character here btw).
I am quite happy with the rest of the patch tho, some key issues are getting adressed here, and the first steps towards bringing on more and more balanced possibilities of creating that player driven content to Eve, especially 0.0 space.
So a full \o/ for the last devblogs and last devchat, but I think the devs already knew that.
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Verone
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:31:00 -
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I'm not. I welcome the missile changes, and I welcome the removal of instas.
I'm looking forward to seeing how Raven class pilots, and Lv4 agent runners cope with not being able to simply torp spam the living arse out of everything.
The next content patch is going to bring some cool changes and opportunties to the game, people will learn to adapt, or they'll whine and leave because they're weak.
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Rei Storm
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:40:00 -
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Exactly!
Adapt... Or just **** off, tbh and dont whine like a little 3 year old girl, who didnt get her barbie doll for christmas!
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DonTrump
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:41:00 -
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You can quit Eve?
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Ninketsu
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:42:00 -
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 Originally by: DonTrump
You can quit Eve?
Nope, all who do come back sooner or later.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:45:00 -
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I'm having more fun than ever.
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juduzz
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:49:00 -
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The only change i dont like thats coming is the "present" chat system on test cus its laggy and ugly ;/
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Rei Storm
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:54:00 -
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They'll change that tho, I think thats the last thing they'll do as they have to implement a lot of st00f.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:54:00 -
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Originally by: juduzz
The only change i dont like thats coming is the "present" chat system on test cus its laggy and ugly ;/
Yeah i did hear about that.
Been a while sicne i did some sisi tho, but did they indeed introiduce new fonts and the abuility to cary both text size and colour in chat channels ?
If so, big mistake imo, definately immersion breaking and a spam invite if i ever saw one.
And what about the computer voice change ? that still on ?
I heard it was quite awfull, that true ?
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fairimear
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:56:00 -
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Nope im not quiting eve cus of the changes in the patch.
IM quiting EVE because of the lack of changes that Fix the cause not the result.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.06.12 20:59:00 -
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I refuse not to quit and Im offended by your trolling against the community of sensless "change -> quit" behavior!!
Hereby I ask mods to ban this anti-quit Troll forever!!
Wanna fly with me?
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Gabriel Karade
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Posted - 2005.06.12 21:35:00 -
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In my experiance (joined Feb '04) the game has only gotten better with changes. I really don't understand what is behind the culture of "OMGCHANGESCCPUSUXIQUIT!!"
Here's a few examples of how certain things used to be....
Heavy drones: Hit anything and everything at any range for 100% damage every time. All other drones were pointless if you had space for heavies. Attacking a Battleship with frigates was pointless.
Battleship turrets: Hit just as well regardless of whether you were shooting at a frigate or another Battleship "oh look someone's brought a frigate, how perverse..." *pop*.
Oversized missiles in small launchers: Small missiles where pointless if you could use cruise missiles. Siege launchers where pointless as you could use heavy launchers instead.
Dual MWD setups. Totally insane.
These were the 'I win button' of the time as you could make yourself nearly invunerable, particulary in a dual drive cruiser.
Best example of this for me: Jumping a dual MWD thorax into a 57 strong enemy fleet formed in a spherical formation around a gate in the CFS war. Actiavting dual MWD, flying right out of the formation leaving a trail of interceptors in the dust.
I'm sure older players can detail things that changed for the better between mid '03-early '04
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Xelios
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Posted - 2005.06.12 21:40:00 -
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Yeah of course people who have an opinion different from yours must be idiots. 
Some of the changes I'm really looking forward to, others I think are either totally unnecessary or not well thought out. Like the 30 min pvp timer, and the insta nerf.
I'm not going to quit the game over the changes, but I really wish they would reconsider some of them.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2005.06.12 21:43:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 12/06/2005 21:45:08
Originally by: DonTrump
You can quit Eve?
It's possible to take breaks but that's about it...
Originally by: Rod Blaine
And what about the computer voice change ? that still on ?
I heard it was quite awfull, that true ?
The new voice wasn't too bad imo but the new fonts don't fit into the windows properly and makes it look really weird.
My overall opinion about the upcoming changes is that things will most likely improve after they are implemented, even though there is some stuff I don't fully agree with.
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Claus
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Posted - 2005.06.12 21:45:00 -
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No, I am not going to quit because of the changes. Actually, I might just start playing again because of them:)
I sure hope the patch will be as beneficial to the game as the sneak previews have suggested.
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Nafri
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Posted - 2005.06.12 21:46:00 -
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Originally by: Gabriel Karade
In my experiance (joined Feb '04) the game has only gotten better with changes. I really don't understand what is behind the culture of "OMGCHANGESCCPUSUXIQUIT!!"
Here's a few examples of how certain things used to be....
Heavy drones: Hit anything and everything at any range for 100% damage every time. All other drones were pointless if you had space for heavies. Attacking a Battleship with frigates was pointless.
Battleship turrets: Hit just as well regardless of whether you were shooting at a frigate or another Battleship "oh look someone's brought a frigate, how perverse..." *pop*.
Oversized missiles in small launchers: Small missiles where pointless if you could use cruise missiles. Siege launchers where pointless as you could use heavy launchers instead.
Dual MWD setups. Totally insane.
These were the 'I win button' of the time as you could make yourself nearly invunerable, particulary in a dual drive cruiser.
Best example of this for me: Jumping a dual MWD thorax into a 57 strong enemy fleet formed in a spherical formation around a gate in the CFS war. Actiavting dual MWD, flying right out of the formation leaving a trail of interceptors in the dust.
I'm sure older players can detail things that changed for the better between mid '03-early '04
you dont see apocs fitting shield tanks and 1400 anymore 
Wanna fly with me?
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2005.06.12 21:57:00 -
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Good post, Dark.
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Maule
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Posted - 2005.06.12 22:05:00 -
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Edited by: Maule on 12/06/2005 22:04:56
ppl saying they are going to quit because of some changes they havent even tried yet should shut up and try it out first..
If they dont like it they can leave but i'm getting tired of post like "if they make this change I¦ll quit"
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2005.06.12 22:52:00 -
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Edited by: OffBeaT on 12/06/2005 22:55:02
Originally by: Nafri
I refuse not to quit and Im offended by your trolling against the community of sensless "change -> quit" behavior!!
Not you Nafri!
i have never seen Nafri say somthing like this.   .
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Originally by: Gabriel Karade
In my experiance (joined Feb '04) the game has only gotten better with changes. I really don't understand what is behind the culture of "OMGCHANGESCCPUSUXIQUIT!!"
Here's a few examples of how certain things used to be....
Heavy drones: Hit anything and everything at any range for 100% damage every time. All other drones were pointless if you had space for heavies. Attacking a Battleship with frigates was pointless.
yea, but now i have too run from frigs/intersepters in a BS solo, even if i only see 3 of them, thats even stupiter too me. if i dont run, i will risk being worp jammed with them not at any real risk from my weopons systems.
it use too be it took 2 to 3 cruisers too takout a BS.
i wish, i had tuff heavie drons again. they need too be beefed up again.i am sick off worrieing about packs of rooming frigs.
Battleship turrets: Hit just as well regardless of whether you were shooting at a frigate or another Battleship "oh look someone's brought a frigate, how perverse..." *pop*.
most turret ships can pack alot of drones, they where sopost too be its defance, not its long range turrets against frigs. again they should be set back up too be so again
Oversized missiles in small launchers: Small missiles where pointless if you could use cruise missiles. Siege launchers where pointless as you could use heavy launchers instead.
huh? we should go back too the days where a BS was a BS and you could load more then one type of missile in one launcher (ie) seige launchers. it was a much more tactical fight from a solo/small corps point of view. a real life BS can almost defend its self against anything thats why its called a bs. only other BS should be a real threat too a BS other then hugh numbers of a nother class of ship, and they should take a hevay loss to get the job done.
i can live with mixing my launchers up on my raven if needed be too deal with frig/battle ship attacks. i just think its stupid.
Dual MWD setups. Totally insane.
These were the 'I win button' of the time as you could make yourself nearly invunerable, particulary in a dual drive cruiser.
yea, i agree with this one. though, i think the BS size mwd's need some love now that we are gona have too depend on them. they are a tad on the slow side.
I'm sure older players can detail things that changed for the better between mid '03-early '04
that depends on whos point of view you ask, i realy like having cruise missiles on a moa. you could take a cruiser into 00 space and make some real isk, do that now solo in a cruiser. this is why evryone and their dog is in a bs now at 3 months. befor you didnt need a bs too get buy, so people whernt so nuts too need one. it looks more stupid now too see evryone and their dog in a bs then it did back then when evryone was not in a BS, also the spread on them torpedos back in the day was awsome for dealing with them so called over tuff drones if you new how too use them and didnt fire them around gates or get too close too your targets they where deadly against them drons.
i miss them torps. they where the bomb.
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Phony v2
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Posted - 2005.06.12 23:25:00 -
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I'm not quitting EVE, because it's EVE. EVE is the **** all around. Best MMORPG I know of...Even if they have changed it far from what it began with, it is still fun, just not as much fun for the older players...It will get more fun again...and I can't wait.
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Gamer4liff
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Posted - 2005.06.12 23:44:00 -
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god havent you people ever heard of the "if a thread exists with the topic pots in THAT topic before starting a new thread rule". If you really want that much attention that you have to start an entire new thread i cant help but laugh. Honesly.
(oh and to contriblute i wont leave unless they remove agents.)
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Taz Devlin
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Posted - 2005.06.12 23:56:00 -
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Personally, I'm very much looking forward to it.
All this negativity towards the patch is unknown to me and my corp mates.
Bring it on
Allways move fast, you never know who's catching up!
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Janara Kirk
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Posted - 2005.06.13 00:26:00 -
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Nope, even with the insta changes which may or may not be a good thing. I plan to stay and see what happens. Whatver nerfing and beefing gets done it so far seems to be a balance...nothing is outright removed. I don't like everything that's happening, but I'll adapt
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2005.06.13 02:30:00 -
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I am so excited about the new patch! PATCH BABY YEAHHH!!!
NPC boost, NICE
Station boost, NICE
Dreadnaughts and Freighters, AWESOME!
NWO and Cosmos, @*$&^!@(! *!@(@&!((!*(#&^# YEAAAAAHH!
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Kunming
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Posted - 2005.06.13 02:38:00 -
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Originally by: Foomanshoe
I am so excited about the new patch! PATCH BABY YEAHHH!!!
NPC boost, NICE
Station boost, NICE
Dreadnaughts and Freighters, AWESOME!
NWO and Cosmos, @*$&^!@(! *!@(@&!((!*(#&^# YEAAAAAHH!
Yeah same thoughts here. You'll know, if u were on the test server, that the patch isnt coming out till next month.. sadly I'll be away next month.
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2005.06.13 03:18:00 -
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i didnt read up yet on whats comming out but we are not getting Dreadnaughts befor t2 BS are we?
if we are that dont feel right.
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Foomanshoe
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Posted - 2005.06.13 04:09:00 -
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Dreadnaughts are needed for station assaulting.
T2 battleships havent even being discussed.
Therefore, Dreads next patch does feel right
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IamBen
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Posted - 2005.06.13 05:28:00 -
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change as long as it done objectively is a good thing. As long as we dont get Blizzard style massive 180 degree style nerfs we should be allright.
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Khargos
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Posted - 2005.06.13 05:46:00 -
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Originally by: IamBen
change as long as it done objectively is a good thing. As long as we dont get Blizzard style massive 180 degree style nerfs we should be allright.
can YOU float a drone?
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Maxine Stirner
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Posted - 2005.06.13 06:17:00 -
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Quit?! And miss all those opportunities to be a complete sycophant?
I can recall no instances in which I have been unable to see at least part of the reasoning behind all changes and incomplete proposals. And I only say that because it would be irrational to presume that I could see it all.
The only thing that frustrates me are half-implemented changes. It takes me some time to get around to connecting indirect compensations, especially those which have been around since the dawn of time but the significance of which never fully manifested.
f.ex. - sig radii and the weapons loadout option for frigs. Higher hull classes can adjust themselves to operate better against smaller hull classes rather than equal ones. One might assume there was no predatory circle due to this. Very wrong assumption. Only recently, however, has sig radii become a bigger and more significant issue.
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SPIONKOP
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Posted - 2005.06.13 06:41:00 -
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I am not going to quit eve until I see how the patches affect my game play.
However should they affect my ability to play the game the way I want to play it and I can find no suitable workaround
then I guess I would quit.
Changes affect everyone and I am just one of many, but I have the same rights as any paying customer, and that is to stop being a paying customer.
I guess if CCP found that 4000 people left the game due to the nerfs then maybe they would reconsider however if a further 6000 people reactivated/joined eve because of the nerfs then maybe they wouldn't.
We drive this this game, we decide if it is too succeed.
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AlexK100
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Posted - 2005.06.13 09:10:00 -
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Good one, I`ll stay even if Eve become more balanced
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MacMillan
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Posted - 2005.06.13 17:52:00 -
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Well some of the changes concern me but I will enjoy adapting to them. The mission changes should be fun and even the missile changes sound adaptable too (eventually )
Im allways excited on a new patch but worried about the few days of lag and inevitable starter bugs.
Hats off to CCP for new content though :)
WTB : DN Vessel for 1 isk
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MOS DEF
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Posted - 2005.06.13 19:17:00 -
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WOuldn't leave either way but this upcomming patch makes me even more happy about the decicion to come back to the game 4 months ago.
CCP owns!
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High Sierra
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Posted - 2005.06.13 21:15:00 -
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it makes bugger all difference to me.
games changes - people whinge - patch hits the server - most of the people who complained instantly begin to look for ways to exploit the new rules - 5 minutes later, they whinge because someone else worked out how to use the changes to best advantage before they did and so its not fair - get enough people complaining and CCP have to change the game AGAIN.
And for a less cynical point of view - change is not in and of itself negative. I hope that the proposed changes (please note I havent said 'nerfs') improve the game. I will not comment on whether they will or wont until I have had a chance to see how they effect my gameplay (HOWEVER I will say that I hope the changes to insta's are a happy compromise - otherwise low sec/0.0 space travel will DIE).
On the whole, it would have to be a pretty drastic change to the game to make me even consider leaving. Perfect example - Dark Age of Camelot - I had an armsman character as my main and was quite enjoying the game AS an armsman and then they went and nerfed it. And When I say Nerfed it I mean overnight the Armsman class died on its arse. NOBODY played armsman unless they already had a top of the line char with a ton of Skill points and equipment. In PvP, the armsman was utterly useless - The battle would go like this - Mezz, kill your gang mates, stand around pointing and laughing because you have no natural magic resistances AT ALL and so cant break the mezz then hit you with one fireball and dance on your smouldering corpse. (OR they would get their weakest gang member to stab you to death with a small dagger)
I left DAOC shortly after and got dragged into the dark side that is EvE.
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babo
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Posted - 2005.06.13 21:29:00 -
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love the changes..
however, with the "insta-whiners shut up" fix, I have a concern over spending hours "approaching gates" in long trips..
If it turns out that I have to spend a ton of time doing that, then I would most likely play other games instead of playing "approaching gate" as that is not much fun and "fun" is why I play..
But, I don't think they are going to remove insta's all together though because there would be an absolute outrage over all the wasted time.
I for one would like paid "transports".. pay a toll and ... but I digress, that is for another "fix" thread in features discussion forum...
Otherwise, the level 4 mission runners are going to have a big shakeup with this patch, and maybe they will finally get out out to 0.0...
Patch "week" is always fun.. I love it...
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OffBeaT
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Posted - 2005.06.13 22:15:00 -
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i have read what you said Maxine, about locking times, i dont see a problem with it. i do disagree with the BM around gates. yesss.. insta's should go, but as a jammer i need too jam now within certen ranges from my targets. the worse my skills at jamming the more important this is too me.
under the new skills and rules of it all, i have too be very accrete in my ranges now when i engage as a jammer.
without the ability too worp to ranges other then just 60km down too 5km to a gate. i will be a sitting duck in a scorp with no sheilds & ew on board.
now, i know they are gona dump insta's too gates but they have said nothing about dumping all ability of making BM's,if they have i have not read it yet.
with the new way they have forced on us too jam now, they better give me gate ranges of upto 200km or more for chooses, i am gona need them. even then i would won't my worping in at these spots too be random and not too the exact same spot everytime.
that would just be bs! nothing worse then worping into the exact same spot evrytime too see ships there waiting for you. then not being able too use your ew ranges effectivly in combat.
it just would be too stuipid in combat. not too say unfar too out numberd players.
if we have too play this game with no BM at all. i would rather the old way of jamming for it anyday.
all will do is tank! tank! tank!
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Qayos
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Posted - 2005.06.14 00:40:00 -
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Originally by: Goberth Ludwig
I am going to quit eve because u made this post
Ebil Shikari !!
Can I have your stuff?
(sorry, someone had to say it)
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Earthan
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Posted - 2005.06.14 01:03:00 -
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I think these changes are needed big time i welcome them
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Earthan
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Posted - 2005.06.14 01:13:00 -
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However i didnt know the bm nerf was already to hit, i hope they tought about a way of fast travelling without them.like somebody before wrote i wont play at "approaching the gate".We already have enough of boring pass time in Eve.
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Rawne Karrde
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Posted - 2005.06.14 02:42:00 -
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Seriously Have I missed something? the NWO patch looks great, its sooo needed. As for all this talk of a bm nerf, have we all been reading the same dev blog? From that dev blog oveur was saying that they at ccp recognize the problems with bms' but also the problem of not having them and that at this point they just haven't come up with an alternative.
So why is every talking bm nerf? Have they finally chosen an alternative cuz i've not been able to read anything? It amazes me the lemming band wagon on these forums.. oh no the sky is falling..
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