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Davis McCall
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Posted - 2005.06.14 03:44:00 -
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What's the best mining setup for a Caldari ship (any class).
Thanks
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Drofier Ilmatti
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Posted - 2005.06.14 05:53:00 -
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Most effecient bet will be a Scythe. Fit:
HI 3x Miner II, 1x Heavy Missile Launcher
MED Medium Shield Booster, Roid Scanner, some hardeners or cap modules.
LOW CPU mods if needed, Expanded Cargo hold. |
Wintermoon
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Posted - 2005.06.14 05:57:00 -
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Given that the Scythe is a minmatar ship I doubt that will be helpful.
Substitute the Osprey for the Scythe in the post above. :)
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Drofier Ilmatti
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Posted - 2005.06.14 06:45:00 -
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Thank you Wintermoon  |
zoturi
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Posted - 2005.06.14 08:44:00 -
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Edited by: zoturi on 14/06/2005 08:43:56
osprey/ferox
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Xenex McScott
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Posted - 2005.06.15 05:22:00 -
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Lets get a little more specific than Osprey/Ferox.
Osprey:
3 Miner IIs, 1 Arbalest Assault Missle Launcher
1MW Afterburner, 1 Large Shield Extender
3 Co-Processor Is
Now do keep in mind kiddies, I have Mining 4, Astrogeology 3, Caldari Cruiser 3, and Refining 4 so I get the most BANG for my buck.
Right now I get 138.24 Ore Units per Miner II and I have 3 of those equipped and running for a total of 414.72 Ore Units per Cycle.
Until I got my Medium Mining Barge with two Strip Miner Is on there, this is what I used EXCLUSIVELY for mining. Then I used a Badger II for hauling.
The Badger II has:
1 Miner II and 1 Small Plasma Smartbomb (just for fun, I don't just sit there and mine, too boring!, and the smartbomb doesn't help too much, only if enemies get too close while warping)
10 MN Afterburner II, Medium Shield Booster I, Secondary Parallel Link Capacitor, Industrial Capacitor Recharger, Cap Recharger I, Basic Capacitor Recharger
3x Basic Expanded Cargohold.
Even with all of this I get 117 m/s with no AB on and around 250 with AB II on. I also get 9182 m3 of hauling! :-D
For a Ferox, it is up to you. Been soooo long since I used a Ferox for mining, I don't remember how I had it set up. Basically I know I had 3 Miner IIs on it but not at the same level that the Osprey had due to the bonus on the Osprey.
Hope this helps, let me know if anyone has any better ideas for this!
Xenex McScott
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Sillente NiKunni
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Posted - 2005.06.15 07:58:00 -
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basic expander ????
hummm set a normal expand, you wil lget past 10k.
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Brannor McThife
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Posted - 2005.06.15 08:11:00 -
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Edited by: Brannor McThife on 15/06/2005 08:14:49
Actually, with 3 Cargo Expanders (18%), your Badger II will get just UNDER 10k. 9919.8 m^3.
My Osprey is sitting at my local starbase, just waiting for me to pick it up... weeeee.
[EDIT] And though my mining skills are not very high (only got Mining 4) and I don't have enough skills to put all the gadgets I'd like onto my Badger, my Badger II can carry 12619.8 m^3.
-G
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Sillente NiKunni
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Posted - 2005.06.15 08:14:00 -
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i'm pretty sure i can have 11 000 m3 with my badger Mark II with no named expand, maby with some giant, but i'm not sure about that.
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We are not monkey
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2005.06.15 12:03:00 -
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You can get 11k with Industrial 5 and Expander I's.
ex P-TMC
If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
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Xenex McScott
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Posted - 2005.06.16 04:20:00 -
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Yeah, I just haven't felt like paying more for the expanded modules yet.  Next on my list once PE gets up to around 4 in about 2 1/2 hours is to get Mining to level 5 so I can use Modulated Strip Miner IIs and start training Deep Core Miners.
And if people like mining, and industry, and love working together with awesome people along with some PVP and mission running, come check out Archon Industries at www.archonindustries.org.
Xenex
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Ishtari
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Posted - 2005.06.16 05:22:00 -
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better train astrogeology, unless you can fly a barge there is no way you can fit stripminers on a cruiser.
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Orthud Mor
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Posted - 2005.06.24 18:06:00 -
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Actually a better set up than the above for a Caldari mining fitting is either with a Moa or a Ferox.
Moa:
Hi:
4xt2 miners
2x HM launchers
Med:
1x 10NM MWD
1x Med sh. booster
1x Industrial cap recharger
Low:
4x t2 CPU
Ferox:
Hi:
Same as moa, but 1 extra t2 miner
Med:
1 x med. sh booster
1 x L sh. hardener
1x 10NM AB
Low:
4 x t2 CPU
With the Moa setup you're working just a little bit more effectively than a small mining barge. The Ferox setup is that much more better
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Simon Illian
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Posted - 2005.06.28 15:38:00 -
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my best mining fit for osprey for mining (ninja) in 0.0 :
High : 3 miner II, empty
medium : 1 roid scanner, 1 medium clarity, 1 cap rech (barton)
low : 2 * 'stoic' core (named WCS), 1 cargo expander
so i use BM always.
I fit 2 WCS to be sure to warp out, and the medium ship booster help.
I've fit the cargo expander cause i've caldari cruiser 4, astro 3, mining5 and always 1 laser stop each minute without the expand.
never loose an osprey during mining party in 0.0
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Unfamed II
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Posted - 2005.07.14 07:41:00 -
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Osprey
High: 3*MDCM2, Heavy Missile Launcher (named maybe)
Med: Medium Shield Booster 2, 10MN Afterburner 2
Low: 2*Expander 1, CPU 1
Mad m3/min.
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Cloudcobra
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Posted - 2005.07.29 20:27:00 -
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Currently using the following setup:
3 Miner IIs, 1 Assault Launcher
EM/Kin hardeners
2 Small Armor Repper, CoPro I
With Mining 4, Cruiser 4 and Astro 3 I get around 148 Units of Ore per Miner.
This is more than a Ferox with 5 Miner IIs because the bonus on the Osprey gets me beyond the yield of 5 Miner IIs without bonus.
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Sobeseki Pawi
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Posted - 2005.07.29 20:35:00 -
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At Cruiser 4 and 5 the Osprey will pull in more than a Ferox.
~Sobe
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Mallik Hendrake
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Posted - 2005.07.29 22:01:00 -
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Caldari ships all suck at mining, get a dominix or an apoc :P
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Meikel
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Posted - 2005.09.01 10:35:00 -
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how are you guys keeping up your cap? 3 Miner 2's sucks a lot of juice.
My setup is 3*Miner II's, a Assault Launcher, med shield booster, 3 co-procs and 3 cap rechargers (as well as 3 or 4 med scout drones)
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Shadow Vice
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Posted - 2005.09.01 10:43:00 -
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at most you guys seem to of given little mention to the bonus on the ospray which effectivally at lvl 5 makes 3 miner 2 mine as mutch as 6
Ospray Stats
if that helps any
and btw the med barge is still just ahed of it in mineing stakes due to the ship bonus of 3% mining yeild per lvl i think it is
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Jarmon Karlentis
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Posted - 2005.09.01 16:06:00 -
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With Mining 4, Asto 5, Cruiser 5, My miner2s on my osprey run for 180m3 each of ore per cycle.
There is no better cruiser for mining. The Domi can mine an equivalent amount, but is significantly more durable.
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Tyrus Ex
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Posted - 2006.01.05 17:36:00 -
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Can anyone update us with some mining setups since RMR? Thanks! n00b + veteran sets are all welcome of course.
Ty
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Suncats Shadow
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Posted - 2006.01.05 18:22:00 -
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Well I spent the time training up so that I could use the medium mining barge Retreiver, which in my case I had a bunch of the base skills already.
Since I want to be an major miner type, the medium barge was the best bang for my training time.
I also recommend getting the following skill up:
Mining: +5% per lvl to mining laser yeild
Refine: -2% per lvl to waste when you refine at station
Refine Eff: -4% per lvl to waste when you refine at station
Astrogeology: +5% per lvl to mining laser yield
Mining Barge: +3% per lvl to modulate strip miner yeild.
I have trained up the following lvls:
Mining lvl 5 = +25% mining laser
Astrogeology lvl 5 = +25% mining laser
Mining Barge lvl 4 = +12% mod strip miner.
total +62% yield.
I have also trained up the required still for the secondary processing skills, which help much with refining the ore and cutting down on the lost minerals.
You will also need to train each secondary processing skill for the ore you want to mine to lvl 3, if you want to use the t1 crystals in the modulate strip miner.
See this Linkage for the mining crystal requirements.
With the current skills and setting I am pulling in 1023.75 raw ore every 3 mins. This is times two, since I am using 2 modulated strip miner II's.
This equals 2047.5 ore every 3 mins, which is 682.5 every minute. Once I get the mining barge to lvl 5, this should become ~1100 raw ore every minute. 
Well help that helps out, I would recommend going for the barge as it is the winner in ore mining.
 *waves to Xenex*
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nXus
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Posted - 2006.01.06 03:01:00 -
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Anybody got an idea as to what the mining upgrade actually does. I did a quick test and it hardly seems worth using them.
The details for mining upgrade says it reduces cycle time for mining lasers whilst increasing cpu usage.
This was in retriever. i have mining lvl 5, mining barge lvl 3, astrogeology lvl 4.
mining upgrade online, strip miner 1, 180secs, 3090 viscous pyro
mining upgrade offline, strip miner 1, 180secs, 2945 viscous pyro
That works out to be a approx 1% increase in mining yield for the same cycle time.. which hardly seems worth it. Any ideas? or is this what we get for struggling to get the cpu to even use the mining upgrade on retriever?
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Zephyrlin
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Posted - 2006.01.30 23:22:00 -
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 Originally by: nXus
Anybody got an idea as to what the mining upgrade actually does. I did a quick test and it hardly seems worth using them.
The details for mining upgrade says it reduces cycle time for mining lasers whilst increasing cpu usage.
This was in retriever. i have mining lvl 5, mining barge lvl 3, astrogeology lvl 4.
mining upgrade online, strip miner 1, 180secs, 3090 viscous pyro
mining upgrade offline, strip miner 1, 180secs, 2945 viscous pyro
That works out to be a approx 1% increase in mining yield for the same cycle time.. which hardly seems worth it. Any ideas? or is this what we get for struggling to get the cpu to even use the mining upgrade on retriever?
Math = Wrong.
1% of 2945 is 29.45
3090 - 2945 = 145
145 / 29.45 = 4.92% increase.
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BlueSmok
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Posted - 2006.01.31 00:56:00 -
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Edited by: BlueSmok on 31/01/2006 00:57:13
I'd suggest a Hulk with all the relavent skills exhumer 4 and Mining Foreman 4 in a gang mining I get 1509m3 per minute, +56.2m3 per mining drone 2 per minute, 5 drones = 281m3 per cycle added.
This is with those wasteful tech2 crystals which you shouldn't use :)
As well as two mining upgrades fitting in low
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Polycarbon
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Posted - 2006.02.04 10:02:00 -
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I have an osprey
for this you need mining upgrades 2 and electorics 4 and med drones
3 Miner 2s
1 Servey scanner
2 Mining Laser upgrads 1 Co-processor
I've trained Mining 5, astro 4.
I get 477 units of ore per cycle with set up using drones for defense in .6+ systems.
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Ramek
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Posted - 2006.02.04 18:04:00 -
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Hi All
This might be getting OT, but it seams ppl are mentioning Barge and mining upgrades..
I have a covertor, with 3 stripminer I's., 1 Mining upgrade I in the lowslot.
now this give a nice output, about 1019 units for each stripminer, but more want more.. any ideas on how to get a second mining upgrade fitted? would be a shame to waste that extra low slot :) problem is, I need 20 more cpu...
Skills: Electronics lvl5 to boost cpu, mining upgrade lvl4, lvl5 would take me some 20 days more, anyone know if that would give me the power I need? or it will be 20 wasted traning days? :)
Anything that can be fitted to med-slots that boost cpu? I find none :-/
with Kind Regards
Ramek / Jan
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Zuke
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Posted - 2006.02.07 07:19:00 -
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I'm trying to get my skills up to use an osprey to mine. Once I get there, what kind and how many drones should I use for defense?
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Polycarbon
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Posted - 2006.02.07 21:23:00 -
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i used 2 vespa 1s and going to switch IIs once i get skill up.
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Orrin Danestarr
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Posted - 2006.02.07 22:46:00 -
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My skills are mining 4 and astro 4 with mining drone 4 and Drone Interface 4
Cyclone:
5 miner 2's
60*5=300 m3 *1.2 (mining 4) *1.2 (astro 4) = 432 m3 * 1.05 * 1.05 (for each mining upgrade) = 476 roughly per minute
3 assault launchers
a varied mid slot assortment with a shield booster
2 mining upgrades
2 cpu's
5 mining drone 1's
5*15= 75m3 *1.2 (mining drone 4) * 1.8 (drone interface 4)= 162 * a relative time coeeficent of anywhere from .5 -.9 depending on your distance from the nearest roid.
lets say a .8 for figures
162 *.8 = 129.6 m3
3 light drones for defense
Total mining yield per minute: 605.88
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Kaathar Rielspar
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Posted - 2006.02.08 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Ramek
Hi All
This might be getting OT, but it seams ppl are mentioning Barge and mining upgrades..
I have a covertor, with 3 stripminer I's., 1 Mining upgrade I in the lowslot.
now this give a nice output, about 1019 units for each stripminer, but more want more.. any ideas on how to get a second mining upgrade fitted? would be a shame to waste that extra low slot :) problem is, I need 20 more cpu...
Skills: Electronics lvl5 to boost cpu, mining upgrade lvl4, lvl5 would take me some 20 days more, anyone know if that would give me the power I need? or it will be 20 wasted traning days? :)
Anything that can be fitted to med-slots that boost cpu? I find none :-/
with Kind Regards
Ramek / Jan
Covetor base cpu output = 200 tf
Electronics V = 1.25*200= 250 tf to work with
Strip miner (t1 or t2) base cpu need = 60 tf
Mining upgrade I cpu need = 30 tf
Lets say we have mining upgrades V trained, this would mean we see a 25% reduction in the penalty of the upgrade. Therefore the base 10% penalty to the cpu of the lasers would be reduced to 7.5% of each laser. So each strip miner (both t1 & t2) would use 69.3375 tf if we have two mining upgrades fitted.
Bear in mind we have two mining upgrades fitted so we have 250 tf - 60 tf = 190 tf left to online our 3 lasers. However, since one laser needs 69.3375 tf to online we can see we're 208.0125 - 190 = 18 tf short 
quite sad really, and unless my math is off, its impossible to fit 3 strip miners and 2 mining upgrades on a covetor. the only way to reach this goal would be to purchase one of those ridiculously overpriced hulks (build cost for these is only around 40mil).
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Bishop Wraith
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Posted - 2006.02.08 00:48:00 -
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This has been puzzling me, and the post above me touches a little bit on Strip Miners; but anyways, here's the question:
I was looking at the Ice Harvester and Strip Miner and all versions of these lasers require 12,000cpu.
They get a 98% reduction when fitted on a mining barge.
2% of 12,000 = 240cpu without upgrades, even the mining barge V of each race can't handle even on laser.
But obviously people strip mine, so what other math is involved to get, as posted in the above post:
Strip Miner = 60cpu
I'm training my skills up to buy a procurer to get me started and am just curious as to what to expect once I have it. Thanks for the help in advance guys!
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Tor'rin Yen
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Posted - 2006.03.01 15:37:00 -
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Im real new to Eve, only about 14 days so far. Ill list what I am doing now with my mining, and can anyone possibly give me suggestions, or just confirm that Im on the right track?
I'm currently mining in 0.6 space (pretty much to myself) using;
Scythe for mining,
HI: 3x miner II's, 2x named assult launchers
MED: 3x civi-shield boosters
LO: 3x co processor 1's
1x warrior drone
The Scythe gets a +20% bonus to mining yield per lvl, and I have cruiser lvl 3 (training 4)
Mining 4
Refining 4
Have planned for the imediate future astrogeology and omber processing.
Currently, with cruiser lvl 3 I pull in 576 units/tick for all 3 lasers. I try to position myself in a belt where I am within 11,999m from at least 10 astroids each containing about 2400-4200 units each, this allows me to pretty much fill up a temp can.
hoarder for hauling
fitted with 3 cargo expander 1's and 3 giant containers for a total cargo cap of a little under 12k m3 (can empty out a nearly full can in 2 trips). With the instant-warps I can travel the 1 system over (no stations in my mining system) in aobut 3 minutes per trip.
This has gotten me about 40 million isk in under 5 days (given 2 days I was sick and mined for about 10 hours between the 2 days). So far this seems to be working, but I was told that a mining barge would be more efficient, but no numbers were given and Im having a hard time locating all the modifiers that I "could" utilize. I solo mine for the most part (combat in groups) , and curently money isn't a huge issue (for what I can fly) and just wanted to know if spending the time on barges would be worth it to me?
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Anguila Rostrata
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Posted - 2006.04.27 04:06:00 -
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Originally by: Bishop Wraith
This has been puzzling me, and the post above me touches a little bit on Strip Miners; but anyways, here's the question:
I was looking at the Ice Harvester and Strip Miner and all versions of these lasers require 12,000cpu.
They get a 98% reduction when fitted on a mining barge.
2% of 12,000 = 240cpu without upgrades, even the mining barge V of each race can't handle even on laser.
But obviously people strip mine, so what other math is involved to get, as posted in the above post:
Strip Miner = 60cpu
I'm training my skills up to buy a procurer to get me started and am just curious as to what to expect once I have it. Thanks for the help in advance guys!
I'm wondering the same thing and can't seem to find an answer to this question anywhere. Even with most of the CPU upgrades I see readily available on the market, I can't make the math work out.
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Drago3000
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Posted - 2006.07.23 08:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tor'rin Yen
fitted with 3 cargo expander 1's and 3 giant containers for a total cargo cap of a little under 12k m3 (can empty out a nearly full can in 2 trips).
What is this "can" you speak of? The biggest thing I found is a Giant Secure Container, which can hold what 7k? And since my Badger II can hold over 10k I'd love to find out what could hold ~25k of ore so that I can help mine rather than sit and watch my buddies mine. Thanks.
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HowlerVonGrowler
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:34:00 -
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My osprey set up for hi sec mining
hi
3 x Miner IIs
1 x Small Tractor Beam
Med
1 x 10nm MWD
1 x Ore Scanner (best optimum range i could find on market)
2 x cap recharger
lo
1 x Co-processor 1
1 x cargo expander
drones
2 x medium drones (usually take kinetic damage drones)
I jetcan mine with my badger mk2 to pick up the ore, use the tractor beam to tow my jetcan around with me so i can clean a belt of my chosen ore quite happily. :)
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HowlerVonGrowler
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Posted - 2006.08.23 12:37:00 -
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Originally by: Drago3000
Edited by: Drago3000 on 23/07/2006 18:09:08
Originally by: Tor'rin Yen
fitted with 3 cargo expander 1's and 3 giant containers for a total cargo cap of a little under 12k m3 (can empty out a nearly full can in 2 trips).
What is this "can" you speak of? The biggest thing I found is a Giant Secure Container, which can hold what 3k? And since my Badger II can hold over 10k I'd love to find out what could hold ~25k of ore so that I can help mine rather than sit and watch my buddies mine. Thanks.
its just jetcanning (jettisoned cargo container). jettison you first mining of ore then open the cargo container and keep putting the ore in. It does mean that some one can fly along and steal from it though even in high sec. they will be flagged to you if they do that, so you can shoot them, however if you are in a mining ship you will most likley get pwned.
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Infectious Disease
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Posted - 2007.02.26 07:05:00 -
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I was wondering if anyone could assist me, I am looking for a good fitting set up for my Osprey, Looking to optimize this ship to the best of its ability so far
I got: High:Standard Missle Launcher, 3x Miners II
not sure what would work better for the medium and low slots
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Lucia Lonestarr
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Posted - 2007.02.26 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Infectious Disease
I was wondering if anyone could assist me, I am looking for a good fitting set up for my Osprey, Looking to optimize this ship to the best of its ability so far
I got: High:Standard Missle Launcher, 3x Miners II
not sure what would work better for the medium and low slots
great mining guide for everyone in another section of the forums
Mining Guide
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Captin hero
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Posted - 2007.05.08 03:45:00 -
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gotta love the ospray so under rated in the mining world
with cruiser lvl 5 and 3 T2 miners add in some mining drones (if no protection is needed)
and with some mining mods in the lows .. i can out mine my corp m8's barge 
well the crap one anyway 
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Ghostshadow
Templars of Space
CORE.
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Posted - 2007.05.08 04:04:00 -
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eh. Rokh with 8 Miner II's 3 mining upgrades = win
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A * B = C
A = Skill Points
B = GPA
C = a Constant.
Guess what happens to B as A increases.
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Leikung
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Posted - 2007.05.11 19:47:00 -
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The Osprey will out mine any cruiser or BC PERIOD.
If you want to waste time, and not use its bonuses, its your time.
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