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Tom Gerard Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan 743	Posted - 2013.01.07 00:53:00 - [181] - Quote ARM was so MASSIVELY successful that Mac switched over to x86 architecture. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
Scien Inkunen School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State 71	Posted - 2013.01.07 01:02:00 - [182] - Quote Anything that involves touching is good only for sex - PC gaming will prevail. Read the "Fart file" and you will understand the meaning of life !
Count of MonteCylon MonteCylon Money Acquisition and Demolition Ltd. 41	Posted - 2013.01.07 01:39:00 - [183] - Quote Great post OP. OP is wrong about the loss of the keyboard and mouse, but he is right about the transition to more portable hardware. Eve will need to run on future tablets and more operating systems in order to remain competitive. I plan to be using only keyboard and mouse compatible tablets (likely an evolved Windows 8) within a few years for example. The simple answer is streaming graphics, Eve is a game that can pull that off. Buff Low-Sec: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2400257#post2400257
DeMichael Crimson Republic University Minmatar Republic 4809	Posted - 2013.01.07 01:51:00 - [184] - Quote Maybe it's due to this new game. DMC
Flakey Foont 199	Posted - 2013.01.07 01:56:00 - [185] - Quote Well since you seem to have a lock on the future, don't forget to invite me to your island and yacht! Maybe my NeXT computer will be worth something!
galenwade Red Federation RvB - RED Federation 138	Posted - 2013.01.07 02:32:00 - [186] - Quote I have a tablet, Smart phone, PC and a laptop The tablet will only be good for serious and long gaming sessions when it has a - A larger screen - A keyboard - A mouse and a stand so i don't have to hold that larger screen. at that point it looks like my PC or my laptop .... strange that :) Tablets are good mobile and casual devices ( assuming you don't use it for work) Desktops are you stay at home comfort device that you can sit at for hours on end . Oh and Drunk tablet using doesn't always end well .
Mortimer Civeri Aliastra Gallente Federation 364	Posted - 2013.01.07 03:35:00 - [187] - Quote Super spikinator wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Ageck Kalenia wrote: The numbers don't lie. The traditional PC is walking dead. It pains me to admit as much as anyone. I spent $4,000 custom-building my last PC. But my next PC will cost perhaps half that money. It will run Linux, not Windows. And I will likely use it less than either my slate, my gesture-enabled television, or my cellphone. So will you, even if you don't believe me yet. you're looking at $4000 of hardware. tablet can't provide this, and I have a feeling you overpaid http://imgur.com/a/Ii7Q1 Mother of god. PFFT! Scrubs. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Pitrolo Orti State Protectorate Caldari State 39	Posted - 2013.01.07 03:52:00 - [188] - Quote I cant play EVE in my tablet...EVE is dying! Your wallet contains only 110.56 ISK, but you require 405,000,000.00 ISK to complete this operation.
Chopper Rollins Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 168	Posted - 2013.01.07 04:56:00 - [189] - Quote Ivy Romanova wrote: ..... However.... the demographic change is something they might want to look into. The current EvE player age is 27. ..... The change will be slow and gradual , but it'll come. SO don't be surprised when on the EvE Con at 2016 or something , EvE turns into WoW A good post. There will always be a percentage of intelligent types with patience and attention spans, some of the new demographic you mentioned will be growing up into EvE. OP, for free laughs, read some techno-predictions from the mid 1980s, people who were taken seriously foresaw total immersion in media to the point where it would become immediate and replace real life. This thinking spawned a giant itchy rash of science fiction and fantasy that has by now become embedded in pop culture and is taken for granted. Still waiting on my flying car and alternate universe game. Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
Roll Sizzle Beef Space Mutiny 1940	Posted - 2013.01.07 05:19:00 - [190] - Quote Chopper Rollins wrote: OP, for free laughs, read some techno-predictions from the mid 1980s, people who were taken seriously foresaw total immersion in media to the point where it would become immediate and replace real life. This thinking spawned a giant itchy rash of science fiction and fantasy that has by now become embedded in pop culture and is taken for granted. Still waiting on my flying car and alternate universe game. Oh the days of Tron, Videodrome, Weird science, Blade runner, The Terminator, Aliens, Dune, The Last Starfighter, RoboCop oh hey, Robocop. That's one IP that hasn't been rehashed... wait, whats that?... OH GOD THEIR REBOOTING ROBOCOP NOOOOOO
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 6202	Posted - 2013.01.07 05:25:00 - [191] - Quote Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: Chopper Rollins wrote: OP, for free laughs, read some techno-predictions from the mid 1980s, people who were taken seriously foresaw total immersion in media to the point where it would become immediate and replace real life. This thinking spawned a giant itchy rash of science fiction and fantasy that has by now become embedded in pop culture and is taken for granted. Still waiting on my flying car and alternate universe game. Oh the days of Tron, Videodrome, Weird science, Blade runner, The Terminator, Aliens, Dune, The Last Starfighter, RoboCop oh hey, Robocop. That's one IP that hasn't been rehashed... wait, whats that?... OH GOD THEIR REBOOTING ROBOCOP NOOOOOO Wish they'd start making good movies again "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Tom Gerard Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan 746	Posted - 2013.01.07 05:27:00 - [192] - Quote Just because of you, I finally did my W8 migration, so +28 machines to Microsoft's tally =P Damn forums costing me money... It was awful it took almost 30 minutes, and all the software installed itself, damn these zero configuration devil machines... I am so totally going to replace my 28 student machines with tablets... students love typing papers out on tablets. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
Tom Gerard Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan 746	Posted - 2013.01.07 05:28:00 - [193] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: Chopper Rollins wrote: OP, for free laughs, read some techno-predictions from the mid 1980s, people who were taken seriously foresaw total immersion in media to the point where it would become immediate and replace real life. This thinking spawned a giant itchy rash of science fiction and fantasy that has by now become embedded in pop culture and is taken for granted. Still waiting on my flying car and alternate universe game. Oh the days of Tron, Videodrome, Weird science, Blade runner, The Terminator, Aliens, Dune, The Last Starfighter, RoboCop oh hey, Robocop. That's one IP that hasn't been rehashed... wait, whats that?... OH GOD THEIR REBOOTING ROBOCOP NOOOOOO Wish they'd start making good movies again The last good movie I saw was District 9... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_9 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 6209	Posted - 2013.01.07 05:39:00 - [194] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: Roll Sizzle Beef wrote: Chopper Rollins wrote: OP, for free laughs, read some techno-predictions from the mid 1980s, people who were taken seriously foresaw total immersion in media to the point where it would become immediate and replace real life. This thinking spawned a giant itchy rash of science fiction and fantasy that has by now become embedded in pop culture and is taken for granted. Still waiting on my flying car and alternate universe game. Oh the days of Tron, Videodrome, Weird science, Blade runner, The Terminator, Aliens, Dune, The Last Starfighter, RoboCop oh hey, Robocop. That's one IP that hasn't been rehashed... wait, whats that?... OH GOD THEIR REBOOTING ROBOCOP NOOOOOO Wish they'd start making good movies again The last good movie I saw was District 9... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_9 The sequel was pretty good... Battle: LA "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Tarvos Telesto Blood Fanatics 700	Posted - 2013.01.07 05:40:00 - [195] - Quote Good thread, thank you. EvE isn't game, its style of living.
TharOkha 0asis Group 490	Posted - 2013.01.07 06:10:00 - [196] - Quote Rain6637 wrote: Ageck Kalenia wrote: The numbers don't lie. The traditional PC is walking dead. It pains me to admit as much as anyone. I spent $4,000 custom-building my last PC. But my next PC will cost perhaps half that money. It will run Linux, not Windows. And I will likely use it less than either my slate, my gesture-enabled television, or my cellphone. So will you, even if you don't believe me yet. you're looking at $4000 of hardware. tablet can't provide this, and I have a feeling you overpaid http://imgur.com/a/Ii7Q1 OWNED I mean, that "hype" that you HAVE TO spend all your fortune to buy a decend gaming PC is ridiculous. I have 3 monitors in eyefinity, i7, 16gigs of ram and R7950 3gb + SSD and i didnt spend more than 1200eur on it (also i didnt buy it at once... i have been upgrading it gradualy) . Also i build PC for my friend and his whole gaming rig costs 750eur (he can run any game on highest settings in FullHD). Of course i didnt buy most expensive procesor or some fancy 100eur mouse GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥
Tom Gerard Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan 747	Posted - 2013.01.07 06:43:00 - [197] - Quote TharOkha wrote: Rain6637 wrote: Ageck Kalenia wrote: The numbers don't lie. The traditional PC is walking dead. It pains me to admit as much as anyone. I spent $4,000 custom-building my last PC. But my next PC will cost perhaps half that money. It will run Linux, not Windows. And I will likely use it less than either my slate, my gesture-enabled television, or my cellphone. So will you, even if you don't believe me yet. you're looking at $4000 of hardware. tablet can't provide this, and I have a feeling you overpaid http://imgur.com/a/Ii7Q1 OWNED I mean, that "hype" that you HAVE TO spend all your fortune to buy a decend gaming PC is ridiculous. I have 3 monitors in eyefinity, i7, 16gigs of ram and R7950 3gb + SSD and i didnt spend more than 1200eur on it (also i didnt buy it at once... i have been upgrading it gradualy and some components was second hand) . Also i build brand new PC for my friend and his whole gaming rig costs 750eur (he can run any game on highest settings in FullHD). Of course i didnt buy most expensive procesor or some fancy 100eur mouse Who needs eyefinity when you can get the same experience from an iPhone... 3.5 inches is more than enough to satisfy anyone! (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
Aramatheia European Nuthouse 94	Posted - 2013.01.07 06:51:00 - [198] - Quote PC's will always exist because some crummy little tablet or a phone cant hope to give the display and functionality of a proper keyboard/mouse and a big monitor. Sure chips may be getting smaller and thats great for phones but a phone is not a gaming platform. Untill the world becomes 100% enthralled with farmville and sims social there will always be a need for machines that can properly run proper games. I have played a flying "simulator" on a phone, it was extremely simple, it had 3 touch screen controls and you moved the phone around to make it fly, it was clumsy and not terribly responsive to my movements. Not to mention it wasnt really all that awesome on a tiny little screen. I play eve full screen on a 24 inch flatscreen, no phone or tablet is near that big and it would defeat thier real purpose if they were. They are not gaming platforms, sims social/farmville are not "games" merely apps.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 6212	Posted - 2013.01.07 07:04:00 - [199] - Quote Aramatheia wrote: PC's will always exist because some crummy little tablet or a phone cant hope to give the display and functionality of a proper keyboard/mouse and a big monitor. Sure chips may be getting smaller and thats great for phones but a phone is not a gaming platform. Untill the world becomes 100% enthralled with farmville and sims social there will always be a need for machines that can properly run proper games. I have played a flying "simulator" on a phone, it was extremely simple, it had 3 touch screen controls and you moved the phone around to make it fly, it was clumsy and not terribly responsive to my movements. Not to mention it wasnt really all that awesome on a tiny little screen. I play eve full screen on a 24 inch flatscreen, no phone or tablet is near that big and it would defeat thier real purpose if they were. They are not gaming platforms, sims social/farmville are not "games" merely apps. I agree, but not for the same reasons... I'd love to see a tablet run far cry 3 or something like that Oh wait, that's the same reason "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Gothikia Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion 37	Posted - 2013.01.07 07:36:00 - [200] - Quote Sigh, I've had this same god damn argument with venture capitalists who are convinced that mobile is the way to make the massive bucks. Five of them have invested in mobile gaming over the last year and lost their money. The mobile market is too saturated and not a good fit for MMO type games. Let me explain. The standard refresh cycle for a mobile platform, lets say a tablet, is 9-12 months from what we've seen over the last few years. 9 Months is not enough time to develop a large scale game, or MMO, or for any other project that you're doing because the platform that you're developing for is constantly changing. What the suits don't understand though is that mobile is strictly for casual gaming, not hard core like EVE Online. There is no real market or business model that actually works for a tablet MMO right now that will allow you (as a business) to have sustainable growth. Now, ARM. ARM isn't ready right now this instant for stuff like EVE online, but it's getting there and as a shareholder in ARM Holdings, I'm quite looking forward to it. But people are forgetting something huge whilst caught up in the fad of the month device. Most people still have PC's, and I'll argue, still the best gaming platform we have. You can take all your fancy consoles and mobile platforms you want, but in terms of capability, immersion potential, availability and just good business sense the PC is still by far the best gaming environment you can have and will be for a long time. The Microsoft Surface debacle has shown that most people just want to sit down, use a keyboard and mouse/trackpad when on a PC, not because it's what people are used to. But because it actually works! I agree with the OP that pulling linux support was one of the most stupid decisions CCP have made and will eventually come round to bite them in the arse. But I disagree with the title of your thread. EVE Online is not obsolete and quite possibly won't be for another 10 years. I'm astonished that EVE has survived this long, let alone grown. She'll still be around 10 years from now, mark my words. Edit: Just want to add in a little thing you said about VR. I've been doing research with VR technologies in gaming since 2007. Still not ready and won't be to a level that people can actually be amazed at. At least another 5 years of work is needed in it. Carmack is pmuch of the same assertion. <3 Gothie
Gothikia Body Count Inc. Pandemic Legion 37	Posted - 2013.01.07 07:51:00 - [201] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: ARM was so MASSIVELY successful that Mac switched over to x86 architecture. The mac switch was done in 2005, planned in 2003 and the current generation of ARM chips that are capable of impressive graphics didn't really come on the scene until 2009. So shut the **** up. Mac's used to be on PowerPC <3 Gothie
Thomas Gore Black Dawn Rising 167	Posted - 2013.01.07 07:57:00 - [202] - Quote Oh look, it's the "PC is dead!" thread from 1990!
Lledrith Ex Caminus 26	Posted - 2013.01.07 08:02:00 - [203] - Quote If you can point me at what tablet can handle accounting/Auditing applications, photograph as well video editing in high definition. and being able to access information in both cellphone, laptop and desktop all at the same time in the past year tell me so i can buy it for me and my wife; cause i may have miss it. just because the current trend is informing of the current grow of tablet use it doesn't mean that a laptop or desktop is going to disappear in the next decade or more. Social media and this fanboyism has only bring this for tablet technology.
Natassia Krasnoo R3D SHIFT DRACONIAN COVENANT 83	Posted - 2013.01.07 08:09:00 - [204] - Quote Um...X86/64 based systems are not going away anytime soon. Quite the opposite actually. If you think that 5 years from now you won't be able to load up EVE on your tablet and play you're sadly mistaken. Take for instance these little jewels. While not quite powerful enough to play EVE it won't be long before they are. The full version of Windows 8 will be running on Microsofts next tablet due out this spring. Not just the lousy touch interface portion but the full version. That means anything that can run on your PC will likely run on a tablet as long as it's got the juice to do so. This means more and easier connectivity with your PC and home network. Which will lead to increased adoption of the technology, because who doesn't want to fire up their PC remotely and play a game from time to time. Hell I can play EVE from my iPad using a third party app that streams the video and inputs over my home network. It's not easy and takes a bit of getting used to but it can be done. So tell me again how the PC is dying and ARM processors will take over the world. It's just a matter of scaleabilty and time before the X86/64 based systems are back on top. So no the PC will not die anytime soon. Sorry about bursting your bubble.
pussnheels The Fiction Factory 1005	Posted - 2013.01.07 08:15:00 - [205] - Quote Ageck Kalenia wrote: The numbers don't lie. The traditional PC is walking dead. It pains me to admit as much as anyone. I spent $4,000 custom-building my last PC. But my next PC will cost perhaps half that money. It will run Linux, not Windows. And I will likely use it less than either my slate, my gesture-enabled television, or my cellphone. So will you, even if you don't believe me yet. so basicly you want EvE to become a console only arcade game and we all need to go out and buy the latest xbox and playstation I do not agree with what you are saying , but i will defend to the death your right to say it...... Voltaire
Reiisha Evolution The Retirement Club 199	Posted - 2013.01.07 08:16:00 - [206] - Quote Jame Jarl Retief wrote: By comparison, EVE reached 450k subs, when average player has 2-3 alt accounts, and some as high as 6-8. It's been stated some time ago that 'only' 20% of active EVE accounts are alt accounts. While i don't know how true this statement is today, i'd wager EVE has at least 300-350k unique subscribers which is still a remarkable achievement in today's market. People vastly overestimate the amount of subscribers with multiple accounts.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 6223	Posted - 2013.01.07 08:19:00 - [207] - Quote Reiisha wrote: Jame Jarl Retief wrote: By comparison, EVE reached 450k subs, when average player has 2-3 alt accounts, and some as high as 6-8. It's been stated some time ago that 'only' 20% of active EVE accounts are alt accounts. While i don't know how true this statement is today, i'd wager EVE has at least 300-350k unique subscribers which is still a remarkable achievement in today's market. People vastly overestimate the amount of subscribers with multiple accounts. I think they're all here "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Karak Terrel As Far As The eYe can see Chained Reactions 148	Posted - 2013.01.07 08:30:00 - [208] - Quote Gothikia wrote: I agree with the OP that pulling linux support was one of the most stupid decisions CCP have made and will eventually come round to bite them in the arse. No sorry, and I say that as someone who plays EVE on Linux myself (Win 98 was my last Windows, long time ago). But the 0.1% (or something) of people that actually played the game on Linux with the official client did not justify the effort CCP put into it. Also that client was just crap. I installed it tried to play and switched to wine + Windows client after a week. The only reasonable way to get support for Linux back is to support wine as a Platform because that would mean one client and Linux + Mac support over wine. The Mac port is some sort of ancient wine bundle anyway. This would actually reduce CCPs effort in terms of different clients. Not so much in terms of support, so there has to be a market otherwise it makes no sense. But first it would be a good idea to lean back and let Valve sort out the driver mess. They could even deliver it on steam even if it runs on wine, from what i hear others do this as well. And even if they don't support it. It works anyway. And to OPs "omg the PC is dying!!": AGAIN? Everytime this stuff gets postet in the EVE O forums it reminds me off this
Le Badass Zealots of Bob 42	Posted - 2013.01.07 09:57:00 - [209] - Quote Whether OP is right or not, the amount of people in deep denial and the resistance to change on these forums is staggering.
Thomas Gore Black Dawn Rising 168	Posted - 2013.01.07 09:59:00 - [210] - Quote Le Badass wrote: Whether OP is right or not, the amount of people in deep denial and the resistance to change on these forums is staggering. When you have been PC gaming for 2 decades you will also start getting tired of hearing the "PC is dead" mantra every two months.

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