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Tesk Malloc
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Posted - 2005.06.14 23:58:00 -
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...used to happen all the time, now I see Celestial Apocalypse pilots flying side by side with VOTF, their (supposedly) sworn enemies for reasons of piracy, CA activities, yadda, yadda, yadda, etc. etc. etc.
Not trying to incite anything or flame, just wondering the reason for their change of heart.
Are VOTF no longer the fearsome baddies they used to be or have Celest finally seen the light and realised that killing indiscrimately and siding with villians is actually a load of fun?
Or have I just missed something that everyone else knows about due to my lack of forum warring? 
Tesk Malloc - Hired Scum, Murderer and All Round Nasty Piece Of Work
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Elenia Kheynes
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Posted - 2005.06.15 00:01:00 -
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The enemy of my enemy is... my friend ! woohoo !
I'm pretty sure you could have found it yourself ;P
Dear friendly customer... Can I have your money ?
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FalloutBoy
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Posted - 2005.06.15 00:03:00 -
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Celestial Apocalypse is really just a bunch of pirates no different than Burn Eden or Botox Bandets. (Not that thier is nothing wrong with that)
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.06.15 00:04:00 -
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 Quote:
The enemy of my enemy is... my friend ! woohoo !
I'm pretty sure you could have found it yourself ;P
A pirate is a pirate. No other reason required :D
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Tesk Malloc
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Posted - 2005.06.15 00:16:00 -
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Yeah, all valid reasons, its just Celest used to be the "good guys" in my eyes, Not exactly RP'ing the role but taking the moral high ground whilst doing good deeds like attacking "pirates" (I use the term loosely) and other baddies like Curse Alliance (May it R.I.P.  )
Just wondering how they view themselves now and if the current political/power climate has forced them to make a difficult choice in allies or if they just want to kill stuff like the rest of us do?
Tesk Malloc - Hired Scum, Murderer and All Round Nasty Piece Of Work
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Lorth
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Posted - 2005.06.15 00:19:00 -
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Well I know theres been a lot of smack between our two corps over the last few weeks, but please don't think what I'm about to type is a smack, or flames in anyway. But the thread will eventually degrade into that anyways....
Celest, seem to have went from the guys in the white hats. Killing off the baddies, and pirates, and doing so effectivly by them selves. Though you hostile to me (and admittidly justifyed in doing so), they were the good guys, who attacked the evil's of the world etc etc...
Now I see what used to be a corp dealing good vs evil, and the betterment of the common man, lossing its edge that made it special. The war with stain, allieing with IMP (everything aside, I think both sides can admit that both of us deserve a KOS from celest.)
Celest seems to have went from a black and white corp, and slipped into a dark shade of grey. The promises of allience haulers in empire, seems to have pulled even the mighty celest towards the dark side.
Not that I really have anything wrong with how you set your standings, your free to do what you want. But it does seem that you've lost the squeeky clean good guy attitude and image that made you guys, a differant and cool corp amounst the hordes of pvp'rs.
Again not a flame, though I'm sure many will take it as such. Fly safe (errm maybe not ;) ) and may we have plenty of fun fights.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.06.15 00:53:00 -
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CELES is the new m0o (got all political and crap), although probably never will be as effective as they don't go more than five jumps out of Empire. As for VOTF, CELES probably doesn't care about the past since most members of any consiquence from the old days left VOTF for something that wasn't dying.
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Marichek
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Posted - 2005.06.15 01:08:00 -
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Edited by: Marichek on 15/06/2005 01:09:01
Just for the record, CELES and F-E have mutual positive standings towards eachother.
And for those who are really curious, I made Ender change the standings cuz after two years of fighting them, I just couldn't bring myself to do it!
In all seriousness, IMP are great allies and both CELES and F-E set aside differences to make this relationship work.
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Shiwan Khan
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Posted - 2005.06.15 01:20:00 -
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Originally by: Alowishus
CELES is the new m0o (got all political and crap), although probably never will be as effective as they don't go more than five jumps out of Empire. As for VOTF, CELES probably doesn't care about the past since most members of any consiquence from the old days left VOTF for something that wasn't dying.
I am sorry you have to find out like this, but VOTF is not dieing, nor is it going anywhere. I have been a member for a year and a half and will continue to be one until i leave this game.
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.06.15 01:27:00 -
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Edited by: Leno on 15/06/2005 01:27:57
Daakkon > I will continue to be a loyal VOTF member until I leave eve in 2008
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RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Coasterbrian > babies are good, especially raw
Coasterbrian > soft and crunchy at the same time
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Lizaa
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Posted - 2005.06.15 01:27:00 -
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since when was votf ever fearful?
/me scratches head
cant thik of when that was exactly.....
Lizaa Director of Grief TacticsÖ
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Skelator
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Posted - 2005.06.15 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Lizaa
since when was votf ever fearful?
/me scratches head
cant thik of when that was exactly.....
Hmmm This is not what I expected to hear coming from a Royal Syndicate member as I have Nver heard TBONE nor Odet talk smak about anyone..
But thats the breaks I guess.
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Konietzko
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Posted - 2005.06.15 02:31:00 -
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Edited by: Konietzko on 15/06/2005 02:33:18
Originally by: Tesk Malloc
Yeah, all valid reasons, its just Celest used to be the "good guys" in my eyes, Not exactly RP'ing the role but taking the moral high ground whilst doing good deeds like attacking "pirates" (I use the term loosely) and other baddies like Curse Alliance (May it R.I.P. )
Just wondering how they view themselves now and if the current political/power climate has forced them to make a difficult choice in allies or if they just want to kill stuff like the rest of us do?
Supremacy and Shinra both used to hate ATUK for leaving CA. Times change, politics change, and goals change. I'm sure they're just combining firepower to kill the [5]
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Specops
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Posted - 2005.06.15 03:02:00 -
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CELES stopped being the "good guys" when they attacked SA.
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Leno
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Posted - 2005.06.15 03:12:00 -
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Originally by: Specops
CELES stopped being the "good guys" when they attacked SA.
I'm afraid i have to agree. SA arent the "bad guys" they are an alliance and were not nearly as pirate-esque as MANY other corporations and alliances.
If they wanted to spend their time fighting real pirates they would of done it they made the clear concious decision to kill many of the people they should be protecting (i.e mostly empire dwellers)
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Coasterbrian > babies are good, especially raw
Coasterbrian > soft and crunchy at the same time
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Cowboy
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Posted - 2005.06.15 03:48:00 -
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Tesk I replied in-game.
"Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are
the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is
punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the
world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.06.15 03:58:00 -
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Hmmm let me see where shall I start, Celest are good guys as are VOTF etc. Celest refusing in gang
to fire on pilots that we are at war with etc, thats not a problem with VOTF and Celest.
Ive got to know Cowboy, Fed, and the rest of celest
and there fun as hell to fly with, and REMAIN HONORABLE.
I see alot of folks that were claiming goodness before flying a differant flag *choke Supremacy cough *.
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TIvian
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Posted - 2005.06.15 04:10:00 -
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Edited by: TIvian on 15/06/2005 04:11:42
Originally by: XirtamVotf
Hmmm let me see where shall I start, Celest are good guys as are VOTF etc. Celest refusing in gang
to fire on pilots that we are at war with etc, thats not a problem with VOTF and Celest.
Ive got to know Cowboy, Fed, and the rest of celest
and there fun as hell to fly with, and REMAIN HONORABLE.
I see alot of folks that were claiming goodness before flying a differant flag *choke Supremacy cough *.
Damnit Xirt!!! WTF?!?!?! Quit flying with gehy h00kers please!
FFS! We are gonna have to start calling you the Gehy Lord instead of the Dark Lord. That or the Pink Lord.
(\_/)
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.06.15 04:27:00 -
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Originally by: Shiwan Khan
Originally by: Alowishus
CELES is the new m0o (got all political and crap), although probably never will be as effective as they don't go more than five jumps out of Empire. As for VOTF, CELES probably doesn't care about the past since most members of any consiquence from the old days left VOTF for something that wasn't dying.
I am sorry you have to find out like this, but VOTF is not dieing, nor is it going anywhere. I have been a member for a year and a half and will continue to be one until i leave this game.
No, I'm sorry you have to find out like this. You guys may be a good corp and you may have fun but the old VOTF is gone. It's dead, it died with CA. Then people like ED left and really, it's in the same state as EV after SA in the eyes of most people. You are your reputation. Glad you're still loyal to your corp though, above all I think that is really important and I'm the same way.
Rise up, destroy all. Not saying it won't happen. But VOTF as a houshold name we all knew is no more. Sorry.
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.06.15 04:49:00 -
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Mistress read the other thread you posted in, and again "get back in your box lil boy" see you in space
"oh no Mistress never undocks "
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Fedaykin Naib
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Posted - 2005.06.15 04:59:00 -
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Originally by: Specops
CELES stopped being the "good guys" when they attacked SA.
funny, when it was SA who attacked us.
"Long Live the Fighters!"
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Mistress D'Malice
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Posted - 2005.06.15 05:03:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
Mistress read the other thread you posted in, and again "get back in your box lil boy" see you in space
"oh no Mistress never undocks "
Some one pull your string Xirt? I keep hearing the same line over and over...kinda reminds me of those old puppets people used to have.
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Noob Esquire
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Posted - 2005.06.15 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
Hmmm let me see where shall I start, Celest are good guys as are VOTF etc. Celest refusing in gang
to fire on pilots that we are at war with etc, thats not a problem with VOTF and Celest.
Ive got to know Cowboy, Fed, and the rest of celest
and there fun as hell to fly with, and REMAIN HONORABLE.
I see alot of folks that were claiming goodness before flying a differant flag *choke Supremacy cough *.
Thx, I needed a good laugh this morning.
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**President of the Xendie/Malken Society for Advanced Thought** |
Lorth
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Posted - 2005.06.15 05:23:00 -
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Edited by: Lorth on 15/06/2005 05:26:14
Originally by: XirtamVotf
I see alot of folks that were claiming goodness before flying a differant flag *choke Supremacy cough *.
Why are bring this up again? Fact of the matter is that both sides made decistions the others didn't like. Fact of the matter is we could get into a long debate about who began to fly with the others enemys yada yada yada. We never expected VOTF to ask our permision to set its own standings regardless of how we felt, why did you expect supremacy to ask yours? Why does this still burn you up, it happend and its done.
Both sides did what they felt was nessasary for the betterment of thier corp, and not for what they though would make the other happy. And I don't begrudge VOTF/IMP for doing so.
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Unleashed
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Posted - 2005.06.15 05:52:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib
Originally by: Specops
CELES stopped being the "good guys" when they attacked SA.
funny, when it was SA who attacked us.
Lets not beat a dead horse now
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Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.06.15 06:09:00 -
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Edited by: Blacklight on 15/06/2005 06:09:41
To be quite honest I for one am dissappointed with Celes falling into the same pattern so many of us did before them, I always thought they'd hold true to their roleplay.
Don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong with what they do now, each to their own etc... but it would have been nice if at least one of the old pirate hunting and 'noble' corps had held true to their ideals.
Darth has often enough commented (i.e. more than once!) on BNC losing their way when we joined BoB and set m0o to +ve and I respect his opinion, this is just mine.
P.S. [G]Imp are ebil pirates 
Eve Blacklight Style
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Klav
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Posted - 2005.06.15 07:05:00 -
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Originally by: Fedaykin Naib
Originally by: Specops
CELES stopped being the "good guys" when they attacked SA.
funny, when it was SA who attacked us.
Wrong, Celes sent noobalts in noobcorps (or some 1 man corps) into catch, SE ofcource shoot em down beeing a warzone and all, Celes claimed SE was pirates for shooting down possible spys, and attacked us for that reason. A obvious setup for getting new targets, nothing wrong with wanting more targets. But the way of doing it "you shoot my noobalt down, youre ebil pirates"... One of the less clever made-up reason ive seen.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2005.06.15 07:11:00 -
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 being on the same ts as celes (and in same gang) makes me nevous. its like "OMFG ITSFEDACTIVATEYOURGUNSSCRAMBLEHIMFFS ohesfriendlynvm..."
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2005.06.15 07:25:00 -
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Celes are moslty vets from almost first month of retail Most of us playing the game almost 2 years. We just wanna PVP and have fun these days without any political crap. We still shoot whoever we think are "bad" and team up with anyone with think is "good"
We dont really post on the forums anymore as they are pretty boring. We arent pirates just PVPs with a cause.
Good - honourble pilots who dont talk smack in local or forums eg VOTF, Red Alliance.
Bad - Shooting at us for no reason, or smack talking in local eg stain, 5 etc.
VOTF in the old days used to be one of our main enemies and we used to smack each other on the forums. I guess we got grudging respect for each other on the battlefield and having flown with them our attitutes have changed. They are honourable, well organised and fun to fly with. End of story.
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DigitalCommunist
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Posted - 2005.06.15 07:34:00 -
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Originally by: Blacklight
Edited by: Blacklight on 15/06/2005 06:09:41
To be quite honest I for one am dissappointed with Celes falling into the same pattern so many of us did before them, I always thought they'd hold true to their roleplay.
Don't get me wrong there's nothing wrong with what they do now, each to their own etc... but it would have been nice if at least one of the old pirate hunting and 'noble' corps had held true to their ideals.
Darth has often enough commented (i.e. more than once!) on BNC losing their way when we joined BoB and set m0o to +ve and I respect his opinion, this is just mine.
P.S. [G]Imp are ebil pirates
*mutters something about hitting nail on head*
Celest can do what they want, its their corp, their characters, their time.. but without their roleplay its just another corp.
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Acwron
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Posted - 2005.06.15 07:45:00 -
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Edited by: Acwron on 15/06/2005 07:48:32
Well I didn't see IMP pirating lately (no need to start a discussion here. In this context: Pirating=romaming around killing neutrals for no reason).
They might shot neutrals entering their space but they are hardly the only alliance doing that. (afaik Fade, Cloud Ring are the only regions were an neutral doesn't immediatly get shot by the local residents)
In contrast [5] do roam and kill ppl for no reason so I don't think it's that hard to understand Celestial Apocalypses decision.
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Noob Esquire
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Posted - 2005.06.15 07:53:00 -
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Originally by: Shadowthrone
Good - honourble pilots who dont talk smack in local or forums eg VOTF, Red Alliance.
Good god man
Xendie PWN's Himself
**President of the Xendie/Malken Society for Advanced Thought** |
Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.06.15 07:59:00 -
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Originally by: Cowboy
Originally by: TIvian
Edited by: TIvian on 15/06/2005 04:11:42
Originally by: XirtamVotf
Hmmm let me see where shall I start, Celest are good guys as are VOTF etc. Celest refusing in gang
to fire on pilots that we are at war with etc, thats not a problem with VOTF and Celest.
Ive got to know Cowboy, Fed, and the rest of celest
and there fun as hell to fly with, and REMAIN HONORABLE.
I see alot of folks that were claiming goodness before flying a differant flag *choke Supremacy cough *.
Damnit Xirt!!! WTF?!?!?! Quit flying with gehy h00kers please!
FFS! We are gonna have to start calling you the Gehy Lord instead of the Dark Lord. That or the Pink Lord.
people like you are the reason i'm pro-choice.
Cowboy that is def going into my sig.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
In the Immortal words of Kayosoni (and where applicable)
"This thread sucks. 2 Newb corps trying to make themselves look good... ugh"
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Heid banger
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Posted - 2005.06.15 08:11:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
Hmmm let me see where shall I start, Celest are good guys as are VOTF etc. Celest refusing in gang
to fire on pilots that we are at war with etc, thats not a problem with VOTF and Celest.
Ive got to know Cowboy, Fed, and the rest of celest
and there fun as hell to fly with, and REMAIN HONORABLE.
I see alot of folks that were claiming goodness before flying a differant flag *choke Supremacy cough *.
We, Supremacy, made our decision to go and fly with ATuk etc when we saw your Allaince fly with our enemies *Cough** Celes Cough **choke*. And xirt plz dont try to be all righteous and pretend to be all honourable as i have seen u many times come down to our ts channel when we were on reigns ts try to feed us false info, like when u said that we were gonna be attacked from ATuk and that u had been given that info and to keep it quiet!!
BTW fyi xirt, ask that welsh bloke why he wanted to join our corp when we 1st became [5]. Was it to spy or coz he felt he was on a sinking ship??
Also hi xirt lmao
Nemesis : Retributive justice in its execution or outcome
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pershphanie
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Posted - 2005.06.15 08:36:00 -
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FFS get of celes's back. Any time they fly with anyone else someone is always there to say "OMFG look celes are pirates cause they are flying with someone who hurt my feelings!". Well get over it. Celes arent the bad guys. I'm guessing your definition of piracy = someone you dont like. Alot of people like throwing that around.
Piracy implys some sort of killing or attacking for a profit or killing to get loot(pillaging). Since IMP do not do this they are not pirates. My theroy is that everyone calling them that or accusing celes of flying with pirates either got owned by IMP, Celes, or both. These people are just bitter and jelous and know they cant beat celes/imp in a fight so they slander their names. It seems celes not only hunt pirates but also are helping along natural selection by killing these morons. Killing two birds with one stone. Good for them. |
Tesk Malloc
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Posted - 2005.06.15 08:44:00 -
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Hey, lets not turn this into a "look at you and the bad stuff you have done/are doing what you are doing" thread.
Corps that have fought tooth and nail before have allied and allies are now on opposite battle lines.
Anyone can ally with anyone for any reason, its only a game, I was just curious about celest because they always had an agenda of being the "good guys" and was curious about their change of stance.
Cowboy answered me in game anyhow, I was only curious
Tesk Malloc - Hired Scum, Murderer and All Round Nasty Piece Of Work
"You can't love life too much. Everybody dies." |
Tesk Malloc
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Posted - 2005.06.15 08:45:00 -
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That was bad gramma. I used curious far too much there.
I am curious why I did that.
Tesk Malloc - Hired Scum, Murderer and All Round Nasty Piece Of Work
"You can't love life too much. Everybody dies." |
Fairlane
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Posted - 2005.06.15 09:49:00 -
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Originally by: FalloutBoy
Celestial Apocalypse is really just a bunch of pirates no different than Burn Eden or Botox Bandets. (Not that thier is nothing wrong with that)
Wrong.. i never seen an armageddon of CELES with 8 wcs¦s... but believe me.. Burn Eden [UDIE] has that crap.
Wallhack... aimbot... You name it!!!
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TIvian
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Posted - 2005.06.15 10:10:00 -
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Originally by: Cowboy
Originally by: TIvian
Edited by: TIvian on 15/06/2005 04:11:42
Originally by: XirtamVotf
Hmmm let me see where shall I start, Celest are good guys as are VOTF etc. Celest refusing in gang
to fire on pilots that we are at war with etc, thats not a problem with VOTF and Celest.
Ive got to know Cowboy, Fed, and the rest of celest
and there fun as hell to fly with, and REMAIN HONORABLE.
I see alot of folks that were claiming goodness before flying a differant flag *choke Supremacy cough *.
Damnit Xirt!!! WTF?!?!?! Quit flying with gehy h00kers please!
FFS! We are gonna have to start calling you the Gehy Lord instead of the Dark Lord. That or the Pink Lord.
people like you are the reason i'm pro-choice.
Lighten Up Francis! I think you got your panty's in a bunch.
Xirt and I go way back. And I think you need to grow a sense of humor.
And stop taking your self and your corp so seriously.
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.06.15 11:09:00 -
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LOL Heid can I have some of what your smokin? Ive heard ATUK and CO are so paranoid there podding there own players and labelling them as spies.
Grimreaper and son for one ,I wont say anything further, you can keep guessing
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Cowboy
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Posted - 2005.06.15 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: TIvian
Originally by: Cowboy
Originally by: TIvian
Edited by: TIvian on 15/06/2005 04:11:42
Originally by: XirtamVotf
Hmmm let me see where shall I start, Celest are good guys as are VOTF etc. Celest refusing in gang
to fire on pilots that we are at war with etc, thats not a problem with VOTF and Celest.
Ive got to know Cowboy, Fed, and the rest of celest
and there fun as hell to fly with, and REMAIN HONORABLE.
I see alot of folks that were claiming goodness before flying a differant flag *choke Supremacy cough *.
Damnit Xirt!!! WTF?!?!?! Quit flying with gehy h00kers please!
FFS! We are gonna have to start calling you the Gehy Lord instead of the Dark Lord. That or the Pink Lord.
people like you are the reason i'm pro-choice.
Lighten Up Francis! I think you got your panty's in a bunch.
Xirt and I go way back. And I think you need to grow a sense of humor.
And stop taking your self and your corp so seriously.
right, right, right, I guess I failed to find anything in your lame toll humor. Here let me laugh After all your a joke
"Come on God. Answer me. For years I am asking you why. Why are
the innocent dead and the guilty alive? Where is justice? Where is
punishment? Or have you already answered? Have you already said to the
world, here is justice, here is punishment, here..............in me"
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Kretchi
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Posted - 2005.06.15 11:15:00 -
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Damn you Celest guys smack a lot on the forums...
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Tiwaz
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Posted - 2005.06.15 11:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kretchi
Damn you Celest guys smack a lot on the forums...
Really? CB not understanding Tivian's sense of humor, is hardly smack.
There is no innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Only we are Righteous.
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Malken
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Posted - 2005.06.15 12:35:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Kretchi
Damn you Celest guys smack a lot on the forums...
ohnoes an alt! the end is nigh!! repent ye sinners! yarr!
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Noob Esquire
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Posted - 2005.06.15 13:07:00 -
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Originally by: XirtamVotf
LOL Heid can I have some of what your smokin? Ive heard ATUK and CO are so paranoid there podding there own players and labelling them as spies.
Grimreaper and son for one ,I wont say anything further, you can keep guessing
Kind of like the CELST alt you recruited into VOTF and had Duke Droklor assasinate in Immensea?
Xendie PWN's Himself
**President of the Xendie/Malken Society for Advanced Thought** |
Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2005.06.15 13:20:00 -
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Edited by: Shadowthrone on 15/06/2005 13:22:24
Originally by: Noob Esquire
Kind of like the CELST alt you recruited into VOTF and had Duke Droklor assasinate in Immensea?
That wasnt anything to do with us. Cloak and daggers and all arent our style. Extravagant left celest for his own reasons. We were kinda shocked and ****ed off when he joined VOTF. The plot was Xanadu's im guessing as Extravagant was room mates in RL with Bizarre who was in Xanadu at them time, now in Evolution. Anyway that the kinda political skullduggery that made EVE great.
Anyway why can't noob esquire post with his ATUK main?
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Shadowthrone
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Posted - 2005.06.15 13:32:00 -
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Originally by: Marichek
Edited by: Marichek on 15/06/2005 01:09:01
Just for the record, CELES and F-E have mutual positive standings towards eachother.
And for those who are really curious, I made Ender change the standings cuz after two years of fighting them, I just couldn't bring myself to do it!
In all seriousness, IMP are great allies and both CELES and F-E set aside differences to make this relationship work.
Hehe marichek we only set u to 0.0 we dont have positive standings with FE atm. I couldnt do it either :). We only shoot -10s though.
Celes Kill Board
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.15 13:43:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Shadowthrone
Good - honourble pilots who dont talk smack in local or forums eg VOTF, Red Alliance.
Someone make me a sig :( |
Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.06.15 13:55:00 -
[49]
OMG VOTF flies with CELES what else is new, I think it would be easier to say who VOTF has not flown with. Not that anybody would or should care.
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Akkarrin
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Posted - 2005.06.15 13:56:00 -
[50]
Edited by: Akkarrin on 15/06/2005 13:59:55
Originally by: Alowishus
CELES is the new m0o (got all political and crap), although probably never will be as effective as they don't go more than five jumps out of Empire. As for VOTF, CELES probably doesn't care about the past since most members of any consiquence from the old days left VOTF for something that wasn't dying.
The people who made VOTF what it was are still there. Xirtam, Aneu, Redon, Faust, Invictus, Shiwan etc.. etc... and concidering we have 20-30 people online most nights 6pm GMT i dont think its dying...
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Akkarrin
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Posted - 2005.06.15 13:57:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Noob Esquire
Originally by: XirtamVotf
LOL Heid can I have some of what your smokin? Ive heard ATUK and CO are so paranoid there podding there own players and labelling them as spies.
Grimreaper and son for one ,I wont say anything further, you can keep guessing
Kind of like the CELST alt you recruited into VOTF and had Duke Droklor assasinate in Immensea?
Hi Lallante.
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Plim
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Posted - 2005.06.15 14:06:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Alowishus
CELES is the new m0o (got all political and crap), although probably never will be as effective as they don't go more than five jumps out of Empire. As for VOTF, CELES probably doesn't care about the past since most members of any consiquence from the old days left VOTF for something that wasn't dying.
Im very intrested to know how you can get from 9rq to empire in five jumps.
You have been bitter for a long time man you need to get a grip. We have NO empire wars at the moment 
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Lodhi
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Posted - 2005.06.15 14:07:00 -
[53]
Edited by: Lodhi on 15/06/2005 14:08:22
Originally by: Akkarrin
Edited by: Akkarrin on 15/06/2005 13:59:55
Originally by: Alowishus
CELES is the new m0o (got all political and crap), although probably never will be as effective as they don't go more than five jumps out of Empire. As for VOTF, CELES probably doesn't care about the past since most members of any consiquence from the old days left VOTF for something that wasn't dying.
The people who made VOTF what it was are still there. Xirtam, Aneu, Redon, Faust, Invictus, Shiwan etc.. etc... and concidering we have 20-30 people online most nights 6pm GMT i dont think its dying...
Shyy dont tell them, let em live in their own litle dream world.
And for the record Xirt is all mine, mine mine mine!
And hey im ex celes, so be nice or ill come give ya a big wet kiss!
Cowboy > Mal you stay and daddy CB will buy you a new white and pink dress with lace |
Takrolimus
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Posted - 2005.06.15 14:14:00 -
[54]
Edited by: Takrolimus on 15/06/2005 14:13:52
Originally by: Akkarrin
Edited by: Akkarrin on 15/06/2005 13:59:55
Originally by: Alowishus
CELES is the new m0o (got all political and crap), although probably never will be as effective as they don't go more than five jumps out of Empire. As for VOTF, CELES probably doesn't care about the past since most members of any consiquence from the old days left VOTF for something that wasn't dying.
The people who made VOTF what it was are still there. Xirtam, Aneu, Redon, Faust, Invictus, Shiwan etc.. etc... and concidering we have 20-30 people online most nights 6pm GMT i dont think its dying...
Eternal Dark, USS Omaha, 12Xspeed, Trucidon, Illuyen, anyone one of those is worth 5x the people who are left.
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Dirtball
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Posted - 2005.06.15 14:16:00 -
[55]
I wanted to blow up VOTF but then they had to go and make more friends, it's not fair  I need my mommy
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Akkarrin
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Posted - 2005.06.15 14:19:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Takrolimus
Edited by: Takrolimus on 15/06/2005 14:13:52
Originally by: Akkarrin
Edited by: Akkarrin on 15/06/2005 13:59:55
Originally by: Alowishus
CELES is the new m0o (got all political and crap), although probably never will be as effective as they don't go more than five jumps out of Empire. As for VOTF, CELES probably doesn't care about the past since most members of any consiquence from the old days left VOTF for something that wasn't dying.
The people who made VOTF what it was are still there. Xirtam, Aneu, Redon, Faust, Invictus, Shiwan etc.. etc... and concidering we have 20-30 people online most nights 6pm GMT i dont think its dying...
Eternal Dark, USS Omaha, 12Xspeed, Trucidon, Illuyen, anyone one of those is worth 5x the people who are left.
Omaha - left to make Black reign when in curse
12xspeed - same
Illuyen - Same
Trucidon - same
So these 4 really have no relation to what we are talking about
Eternal Dark - Decided to leave and take all the moaning members with him. Concidering he's leaving the game in less than a month and VOTF hasnt been phased by any of them leaving, you really think it makes that much differance? Oh and Xirtam made VOTF no one else comes close.
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Mistress D'Malice
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Posted - 2005.06.15 15:09:00 -
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So NOW VOTF members are dissing people like ED? He was the classiest player you had and now your gonna smack him around as well...you guys have no respect.
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Akkarrin
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Posted - 2005.06.15 15:34:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Mistress D'Malice
So NOW VOTF members are dissing people like ED? He was the classiest player you had and now your gonna smack him around as well...you guys have no respect.
I have plenty of respect for ED, he knows this, i was not bad mouthing nor putting him down, i was just saying, he is leaving the game anyway so how does it affect VOTF that he made his own corp? Makes sense mistress, unlike you most of the time.
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Mistress D'Malice
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Posted - 2005.06.15 15:52:00 -
[59]
Edited by: Mistress D''Malice on 15/06/2005 15:53:31
My posts always make sense...but are generally too honest for you to understand I guess. Agree or not, they hold merit...
ED, Truc, 12x, Omaha and such are the classiest group of people I have known, and to say them leaving doesnt/hasnt effected your corp is crazy talk. Any corp would be LUCKY to have them...and a weaker corp when they leave.
Point being, the people who deserve your respect should get it, regardless if they are in your corp still or not.
But alas, I have had my fun with the VOTF crowd. Enjoy your fading days in the spotlight.
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Akkarrin
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Posted - 2005.06.15 15:55:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Mistress D'Malice
My posts always make sense...but are generally too honest for you to understand I guess. Agree or not, they hold merit...
ED, Truc, 12x, Omaha and such are the classiest group of people I have known, and to say them leaving doesnt/hasnt effected your corp is crazy talk. Any corp would be LUCKY to have them...and a weaker corp when they leave.
Point being, the people who deserve your respect should get it, regardless if they are in your corp still or not.
When did i say they did not diserve respect? I respect each and everyone of them, me and Omaha have fallen out once or twice but got over it each time.
My point being THEY decided to leave and VOTF got stronger for it, each time. Omaha and 12x left and VOTF got stronger, ED leaves taking what i concidered the problem in VOTF(some members NOT ED) - VOTF got stronger once again we have two fleet commanders which i concider to be on the same level as ED, we have specific cov ops pilots who will find a stray hair on a donkeys ass and we have some of the hardest hitting pilots ingame.
So exactly what is your point again?
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.06.15 17:25:00 -
[61]
Sometimes good and evil allie to fight a bigger evil. yes i'm a wannabe poet.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.15 17:32:00 -
[62]
ED's voice makes me want to turn *** tbh, its sexor, I've only flown under him like 3 times and I'm already a groupie.
He should be politician .
Someone make me a sig :( |
Redon
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Posted - 2005.06.15 17:42:00 -
[63]
Originally by: XirtamVotf
Hmmm let me see where shall I start, Celest are good guys as are VOTF etc. Celest refusing in gang
to fire on pilots that we are at war with etc, thats not a problem with VOTF and Celest.
Ive got to know Cowboy, Fed, and the rest of celest
and there fun as hell to fly with, and REMAIN HONORABLE.
I see alot of folks that were claiming goodness before flying a differant flag *choke Supremacy cough *.
AHahahaha, damnit old man you still got it. last part made me sh*t myself.
on another note i stole his wheelchair of forged arkornor. offers will be taken starting at 20bil isk.
be seeing you soon, maybe.
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spiritfa11
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Posted - 2005.06.15 17:45:00 -
[64]
the truth is xirt is my veldspar mining buddy and i now control his will. if you have any problems with votf you may now contact me. =)
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The Clash
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Posted - 2005.06.15 18:09:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Akkarrin
Originally by: Takrolimus
Edited by: Takrolimus on 15/06/2005 14:13:52
Originally by: Akkarrin
Edited by: Akkarrin on 15/06/2005 13:59:55
Originally by: Alowishus
Omaha - left to make Black reign when in curse
12xspeed - same
Illuyen - Same
Trucidon - same
So these 4 really have no relation to what we are talking about
Eternal Dark - Decided to leave and take all the moaning members with him. Concidering he's leaving the game in less than a month and VOTF hasnt been phased by any of them leaving, you really think it makes that much differance? Oh and Xirtam made VOTF no one else comes close.
You know what the worst part was of Eternal Dark forming Reqieum Inq ? They took Overcopes1 from KIA :( 
12xspeed - bless you man for lettin us using youre TS
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Hastrabull
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Posted - 2005.06.15 18:48:00 -
[66]
Originally by: XirtamVotf
LOL Heid can I have some of what your smokin? Ive heard ATUK and CO are so paranoid there podding there own players and labelling them as spies.
Grimreaper and son for one ,I wont say anything further, you can keep guessing
And i remember post from one ex VOTF saying:
WTF! XIRT PODDED HES OWN CORPMATE!!!
hypocrisy?
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Akkarrin
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Posted - 2005.06.15 18:52:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Hastrabull
Originally by: XirtamVotf
LOL Heid can I have some of what your smokin? Ive heard ATUK and CO are so paranoid there podding there own players and labelling them as spies.
Grimreaper and son for one ,I wont say anything further, you can keep guessing
And i remember post from one ex VOTF saying:
WTF! XIRT PODDED HES OWN CORPMATE!!!
hypocrisy?
If you had a clue, you would know that it was a 'ploy' but to what i wont tell you
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Hastrabull
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Posted - 2005.06.15 18:56:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Akkarrin
Originally by: Hastrabull
Originally by: XirtamVotf
LOL Heid can I have some of what your smokin? Ive heard ATUK and CO are so paranoid there podding there own players and labelling them as spies.
Grimreaper and son for one ,I wont say anything further, you can keep guessing
And i remember post from one ex VOTF saying:
WTF! XIRT PODDED HES OWN CORPMATE!!!
hypocrisy?
If you had a clue, you would know that it was a 'ploy' but to what i wont tell you
doesnt matter, really. i dont know both situations.
Atuk shooting their own people or VOTF shooting their own people.
For me its all the same. When u did it before dont point out that someone did later.
Its just not good.
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Akkarrin
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Posted - 2005.06.15 18:57:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Hastrabull
Originally by: Akkarrin
Originally by: Hastrabull
Originally by: XirtamVotf
LOL Heid can I have some of what your smokin? Ive heard ATUK and CO are so paranoid there podding there own players and labelling them as spies.
Grimreaper and son for one ,I wont say anything further, you can keep guessing
And i remember post from one ex VOTF saying:
WTF! XIRT PODDED HES OWN CORPMATE!!!
hypocrisy?
If you had a clue, you would know that it was a 'ploy' but to what i wont tell you
doesnt matter, really. i dont know both situations.
Atuk shooting their own people or VOTF shooting their own people.
For me its all the same. When u did it before dont point out that someone did later.
Its just not good.
Jebus! VOTF did not podkill their own members, it was a ploy on the forums to make out that the certain member was 'rebelling' against VOTF... get the idea?
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Hastrabull
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Posted - 2005.06.15 19:00:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Akkarrin
Originally by: Hastrabull
Originally by: Akkarrin
Originally by: Hastrabull
Originally by: XirtamVotf
LOL Heid can I have some of what your smokin? Ive heard ATUK and CO are so paranoid there podding there own players and labelling them as spies.
Grimreaper and son for one ,I wont say anything further, you can keep guessing
And i remember post from one ex VOTF saying:
WTF! XIRT PODDED HES OWN CORPMATE!!!
hypocrisy?
If you had a clue, you would know that it was a 'ploy' but to what i wont tell you
doesnt matter, really. i dont know both situations.
Atuk shooting their own people or VOTF shooting their own people.
For me its all the same. When u did it before dont point out that someone did later.
Its just not good.
Jebus! VOTF did not podkill their own members, it was a ploy on the forums to make out that the certain member was 'rebelling' against VOTF... get the idea?
Chill out. As i said. Doesnt matter. i read about it on the forums, i assume it was for real.
Still it was not the main point of my post.
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ThunderGodThor
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Posted - 2005.06.15 19:13:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Acwron
Edited by: Acwron on 15/06/2005 07:48:32
Well I didn't see IMP pirating lately (no need to start a discussion here. In this context: Pirating=romaming around killing neutrals for no reason).
They might shot neutrals entering their space but they are hardly the only alliance doing that. (afaik Fade, Cloud Ring are the only regions were an neutral doesn't immediatly get shot by the local residents)
In contrast [5] do roam and kill ppl for no reason so I don't think it's that hard to understand Celestial Apocalypses decision.
I want to respond to this. You define roming around and ganking neutrals as pircy. But when you are deep in ENEMY territory there are only 2 things those neutrals can be. First they arent sposed to be there so ganking them does a favor to your ENEMY by taking out someone who might be a prob for them. The second group is supporting the ENEMY. They either supply them with money or matereriel. So what do you do allow a group to live if they could be supporting the enemy or do you put pressure on there supply lines?
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XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.06.15 19:14:00 -
[72]
HMM let me see how we cab easily resolve this, OH noes lets look at their history employment in game.
None of those players were original VOTF, they joined VOTF because of what I or other players did with them while in Curse.
ED and crew left for their own reasons and I wont speak for them, none the less, I talk with ED all the time and he remains a good friend, and a good enemy:).
Seld, and the rest the same, I miss Kothar:(
Anyway yes its true , I secretly mine veldspar,whispering the word precious as I go.
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Noob Esquire
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Posted - 2005.06.15 20:51:00 -
[73]
Originally by: XirtamVotf
HMM let me see how we cab easily resolve this, OH noes lets look at their history employment in game.
None of those players were original VOTF, they joined VOTF because of what I or other players did with them while in Curse.
LOL, when CA was formed your corp had like 2 ppl in it, you and Darksheer. You really have no memory what-so-ever do you?
Xendie PWN's Himself
**President of the Xendie/Malken Society for Advanced Thought** |
XirtamVotf
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Posted - 2005.06.15 21:47:00 -
[74]
yes lallaente your always right you are all knowing,
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.06.15 23:47:00 -
[75]
LOLLANTE
Experience John Daker
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Takrolimus
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Posted - 2005.06.15 23:48:00 -
[76]
Originally by: XirtamVotf
yes lallaente your always right you are all knowing,
The only alt I ever use on these forums is this one. Which is hardly an alt.
I think it might be naptime or something....
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.16 03:57:00 -
[77]
Originally by: ThunderGodThor
Originally by: Acwron
Edited by: Acwron on 15/06/2005 07:48:32
Well I didn't see IMP pirating lately (no need to start a discussion here. In this context: Pirating=romaming around killing neutrals for no reason).
They might shot neutrals entering their space but they are hardly the only alliance doing that. (afaik Fade, Cloud Ring are the only regions were an neutral doesn't immediatly get shot by the local residents)
In contrast [5] do roam and kill ppl for no reason so I don't think it's that hard to understand Celestial Apocalypses decision.
I want to respond to this. You define roming around and ganking neutrals as pircy. But when you are deep in ENEMY territory there are only 2 things those neutrals can be. First they arent sposed to be there so ganking them does a favor to your ENEMY by taking out someone who might be a prob for them. The second group is supporting the ENEMY. They either supply them with money or matereriel. So what do you do allow a group to live if they could be supporting the enemy or do you put pressure on there supply lines?
I claim all of eve. You are now in my territory, and neutrals are KOS, so die plz.
Oh and I thought it was pretty obvious who noob is, but apparently not seeing how u thought it was lallante .
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C4w3
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Posted - 2005.06.16 06:15:00 -
[78]
This kinda reminds me of the forum battle/whoring a yeara ago..
[5] = CA
IMP/Celest and rest = Ebil we hate CA type of homies
I will spend time laughing at all these threads of OMFGIWTFPAWENDYOURCORPANDUARESOBADWEOWNURASSSOBADALLTHETIME.
July and summertime are comming up *me happy.
Suprem FTW ;0)
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
Blacklight
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Posted - 2005.06.16 06:16:00 -
[79]
You ex-CA guys really like the forums don't you?
Take it in game for goodness sake.
Eve Blacklight Style
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C4w3
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Posted - 2005.06.16 06:22:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Blacklight
You ex-CA guys really like the forums don't you?
Take it in game for goodness sake.
AGREED and Signed
"If all the heroes are standing together around a strange device and begin to taunt me, I will pull out a conventional one. |
fugazii
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Posted - 2005.06.16 07:40:00 -
[81]
same could be said about spurm/ex-omega flying w/their long time enemies atuk...right?
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Noob Esquire
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Posted - 2005.06.16 07:42:00 -
[82]
Originally by: fugazii
same could be said about spurm/ex-omega flying w/their long time enemies atuk...right?
Or F-E flying with CELEST.
/pukes
Xendie PWN's Himself
**President of the Xendie/Malken Society for Advanced Thought** |
twofunction
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Posted - 2005.06.16 07:54:00 -
[83]
This kinda reminds me of the old CA forums
All the same old ppl .. Xirt .. MD .. Nebba .. LD .. and more
Things never every change ... do they
Twofunction > Eyesu > Lordtfk
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Bruchpilot
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Posted - 2005.06.16 08:43:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Noob Esquire
Originally by: fugazii
same could be said about spurm/ex-omega flying w/their long time enemies atuk...right?
Or F-E flying with CELEST.
/pukes
Get a clue, angry boy. We don't fly with F-E nor do we fly with GODs.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.16 09:12:00 -
[85]
Celes dont fly with F-E
--thoth
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Tiwaz
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Posted - 2005.06.16 09:31:00 -
[86]
clearly a mistake by Bruch.
BTW if our fanboys can find another corp to play show and tell with, it would really lighting up our hearts.
Seems to me, that atuk has way to much forum time.
tiwaz
There is no innocence, only degrees of guilt.
Only we are Righteous.
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thoth foc
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Posted - 2005.06.16 09:38:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Tiwaz
clearly a mistake by Bruch.
/me nods
bored at work sorry =] i have nothing against celes, just thought he should be accurate if he was going to be ignorant to the poster above
--thoth
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Balistic Void
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Posted - 2005.06.16 09:51:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Balistic Void on 16/06/2005 09:51:36
/me hugs CELEST :)
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darth solo
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Posted - 2005.06.16 09:59:00 -
[89]
its really only the US timezone guys that are flying with VOTF/REDs at this moment... the Euros are still working pretty much by ourselves in stain space, 9rq to be exact, and do not organise gangs with anyone else, its just kinda if ur in the same system we gang up to fight a common enemy.. so this is over maybe 10 pilots?.. its no big deal...
Everyone seems to be flying with everyone now adays... The US guys just get heavilly blobbed if they dont fly with others...
mucho respect to the REDs btw, iv fought against them, and with them over the past 2 years and they are the best PVP bunch in EVE bar none....we have also fought VOTF over that time, and they are as strong as they were then...
d solo.
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Golgatha
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Posted - 2005.06.16 14:38:00 -
[90]
Edited by: Golgatha on 16/06/2005 14:38:30
Originally by: twofunction
This kinda reminds me of the old CA forums
All the same old ppl .. Xirt .. MD .. Nebba .. LD .. and more
Things never every change ... do they
Don't forget Fatballs. All we need now is Ticklepink and a few random Ebaying VOTF-sponsered corp CEOs
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we have also fought VOTF over that time, and they are as strong as they were then...
No need to be THAT harsh...
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