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Andski
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2013.01.09 15:39:00 -
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A freighter buff would be stupid since freighter pilots have plenty of options to protect themselves. Double wrap regardless of value and use webbing alts when possible.
It's also possible that some of those freighter kills were freighters that survived a suicide gank in one system and were finished off in another. There is no way to suicide gank a freighter with two battlecruisers alone.
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.09 17:13:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:Freighters should be the defenseless whales of the space sea, getting WTF-harpooned and turned into useful spermaceti and blubber. The problem right now is the maths is too easy given the relative ease to scan cargo, then do easy the gank math. that gank math needs some more complication and variety is all.
The loot drops are a dice roll. If you gank a freighter with 50 stacks and only one of them is of any value, the odds of getting a favorable drop are against you.
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:01:00 -
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Tarsas Phage wrote:Hi, I'm Tarsas Phage and have killed a few JFs in my time.
There is definitely profit in killing a empty JF. Like 30-40 intact armor plates or enhanced ward consoles kind of profit.
Regards;
/T
Sure, but suicide ganking one? Doubt it.
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:02:00 -
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Katran Luftschreck wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Don't fly with enough loot in your freighter to make yourself worth Ganking. Do you know much freighters cost? The moment it undocks it is worth ganking, even it's completely empty.
A lie, as usual.
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:38:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:So why you so against some help and having fitting options for Freighter pilots Andski?
Because freighters are not supposed to fit modules, were never meant to fit modules and were never meant to have any "fitting options" at all whatsoever, that's why.
As far as help, they can help themselves. It's time for CCP to stop coddling bad players who put their life's worth in a single freighter and, without even double-wrapping it, fly it AFK to Jita.
Stop demanding that CCP isolates you from other players and, for once, learn concepts like "double-wrapping" and "not going AFK"
Vyktor Abyss wrote:The point is all the decision making is done by the ganker right now, the gankee doesn't have any decisions to make and cant feel clever (or then stupid) for fitting a hull tank, or a WCS for their trip through lowsec....etc The freighter EHP, concord and your DPS required are known so it is all rather simple.
This is nonsense and you know it. The freighter pilot has the choice to double-wrap and what to fly in a given haul. The fact that you want to do everything in EVE without risk, without thought and with maximum convenience in mind is representative of the problems with the entitled hisec playerbase.
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Andski
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:45:00 -
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Yeah, that's another thing. Hisec freighter ganking is incredibly rare these days since CCP decided that hisec hauling should be risk-free in Retribution.
These guys are demanding the final nail in that coffin.
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Andski
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.09 19:58:00 -
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Irya Boone wrote:and Why for Gad sake you want to kill things in High sec .. go show your incredible Skill in pvp In NULL sec there is Freighter and JF too in 0.0
"abloobloobloo people are killing me in hisec, in the cold and harsh game eve online"
as far as a serious answer, it's because hisec players make a delightful squeal when you pop them, and they drop the best loot
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Andski
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2013.01.09 20:01:00 -
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posts like that make me want to donate 20b to the noble cause of ganking loaded freighters and popping their wrecks for laughs, just because
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Andski
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2013.01.09 21:06:00 -
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You're right. Freighters should be given 3 rig slots, 8 low slots, 8 mid slots and 8 high slots, 8 launcher and 8 turret hardpoints and infinite CPU, grid and calibration, just because they need ~improvement~ as if something is somehow wrong with them.
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Andski
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:26:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:Tailoring ships for different roles is what makes this spaceship game more fun. Sorry to answer a question with a question but I've been pretty clear : Why should freighters be the boring exceptions to the tailoring rule?
And for the record I'm not advocating Med or High slots unless they have some industrial purpose like a tractor beam. A freighter with guns and web scram would be a bit moronic I agree. :)
So how does the freighter need more "tailoring" for its role, that is, hauling stuff in bulk? It seems to perform that role remarkably well.
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Andski
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2013.01.09 22:29:00 -
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Vyktor Abyss wrote:I'd like to see freighter specialised for carrying large volume of Ore - maybe even ones that only carry Ore.
Or freighters that can carry fitted ships...
Or freighters that can align quicker or warp quicker (remember that OP warp speed rig?) for those who like to travel in theirs...
Or freighters that can fit a DCU and more tank for the baiter who has everything...
Or freighters that can haul everything a corp owns all in one go if they want to then die in a horrible embarrasing mess shotuing at his useless corpmates on comms....
Or freighters people are less afraid to risk in lowsec / nullsec and wormholes for whatever reason ...
Let's see.
1) Orcas and Rorquals
2) The above, carriers, supercarriers and titans
3) Fenrirs with LG Nomad sets and agility hardwirings
4) Orcas
5) Current freighters
6) Jump freighters
Wow, this game already has all of what you seek!
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