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Dan Grobag	Posted - 2005.06.19 12:01:00 - [1] if dreads could attack a pos and it's godly defence, they could also easyly gank anything in a 1.0 system
Jade Be'Loki	Posted - 2005.06.19 12:05:00 - [2] I doubt it, they probably won't be able to track much else than stations and battleships. And I take it CONCORD will be using some dreads too by then .
anter	Posted - 2005.06.19 12:06:00 - [3] I am really hoping dreads insurance suck and these cost ALOT, so it doesnt turn out that dreads are just next battleships.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2005.06.19 12:06:00 - [4] You might gank a BS in one volley but the next volley wouldn't happen because CONCORD uses EW hacks to jam your ship? LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Dan Grobag	Posted - 2005.06.19 12:08:00 - [5] yes but if there are 3-4 dreads they would own concord, anyway i think they will rather nerf pos defence
James Lyrus	Posted - 2005.06.19 12:25:00 - [6] I remain unconvinced. A static emplacement is a very different tactical situation to a mobile platform. POSes might be very powerful, but their ability to project power is limited - they can't 'control' any space larger than their 300km targeting radius. Therefore it needs to be distinctly more powerful to compensate for the fact that it's basically just a target.
Mikesnail	Posted - 2005.06.19 12:27:00 - [7] even if there are 3-4 dreads, they would still ultimatly loose ... because its an exploit not to. Considering the cost of dreads, you would need to make sure than what your attacking is worth a hell of a lot of isk. And if someone/corp tries a zombie-yulai stunt, then they already know what will happen. ban r' us. so i wouldnt worry.
RaphKa	Posted - 2005.06.19 12:32:00 - [8] OMG ..... They will prolly be able to fight in .4 and bellow easily .. CONCORD does not play by game rules..they instajam.and do insane dmg and spawn on you... No dreadnoughts will have no chance in anyhing above 0.5 ... HOW stupid do you think CCp is ,? they wil not risk noobs dying in safe space since it will mean people being dissapointed wiht game and not playing it past trial day.!!! ¼______________________¼
pshepherd	Posted - 2005.06.19 12:34:00 - [9] only reason zombie got banned is because they refused to stop when GM's told them to, but if we keep talking about zombie... Click maybe banning dreadnaughts from above 0.4 could be a solution. RP-wise the empires don't want HUGE ships threatening their navies.
SengH	Posted - 2005.06.21 02:25:00 - [10] lol i could just see a whole bunch of players saving up for 10-20 dreads and taking over yulai and charging 100mil docking fees.
Liu Kaskakka	Posted - 2005.06.21 03:18:00 - [11] blaa blaa blaa.. u dont know sthit about dreads and yet youre complaining about them ..
Luc Boye	Posted - 2005.06.21 03:25:00 - [12] GM's would just spawn 20 tech2 dreds of doom and call it "Mara Revival Party" -- 2004.12.29 23:33:40combatMining Pollution Cloud hits you, doing 140.0 damage.
MooKids	Posted - 2005.06.21 03:30:00 - [13] Yay for random assumptions! -------------------------------- CCP can patch away bugs, but they can't patch away stupidity.
Cannedbeef	Posted - 2005.06.21 03:59:00 - [14] Ok so you are saying Dreads can tank massively constantly spawning jamming/scrambling/webbing gankaships? Maybe for.. 5? 6 seconds? Beats a BS by a few. Dreadnaughts dont have amazing defence, thats titans. Even then.. They would be EW'd into submission.
Nyphur	Posted - 2005.06.21 04:06:00 - [15] I am hoping they are restricted to low sec.
ArcticWolf	Posted - 2005.06.21 06:28:00 - [16] Originally by: Dan Grobag yes but if there are 3-4 dreads they would own concord, anyway i think they will rather nerf pos defence Wrong, if you ligedimently beat concord, they call "special" reinforcements. remember m0o...back in the day they owned all cops, so 7-9 devs in Special Ops and Black Ops concord battleships came and rectified the problem...
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.06.21 06:35:00 - [17] Originally by: Nyphur Edited by: Nyphur on 21/06/2005 04:08:16 I am hoping they are restricted to low sec. And yes, something people are missing here is that a dreadnought is not just a battleship with bigger numbers. It's got two modes, Normal and Siege. It can probably take out a battleship in one volley, sure, but only in siege mode, in which its defences have got to completely suck to balance it out. It's still going to be either gank or tank, you can't choose both. Dont be silly.... we know damn well that the first few Dreaddies are going to be sat outside Yulai "Look at me, look at me" Originally by: Eris Discordia gives Typherin some loving
infused	Posted - 2005.06.21 08:47:00 - [18] I'm sure concord will be upgraded to Titans :) (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Rodj Blake	Posted - 2005.06.21 09:12:00 - [19] The pictures that I've seen of the Amarrian dreadnought suggest that it only has three turret slots. So you can either fit three XL guns which won't hit anything smaller than a POS or other dreadnought, or you can use large guns which will mean that you'll do less damage than any of the battleships. Dolce et decorum est pro imperator mori
Discorporation	Posted - 2005.06.21 09:22:00 - [20] 6 guns per side, Rodj, each turret had two cannons. Those might be the XL Eqiv of Dual beam lasers, though, which makes me salivate at the thought of XL Tachyons. [Heterocephalus glaber]
Oveur	Posted - 2005.06.21 09:59:00 - [21] Funny you should mention this, I was in Yulai yesterday in a dread killing customs officials (who doesn't hate those guys). However, I was eventually killed. Expensive fun. _____________________________ I say hey sky, s'other say I won say, I pray to J I get the same ol' same ol.
Typherin laidai	Posted - 2005.06.21 10:14:00 - [22] Originally by: Oveur Funny you should mention this, I was in Yulai yesterday in a dread killing customs officials (who doesn't hate those guys). However, I was eventually killed. Expensive fun. Dude please can I have a dreadnaught... and put me in yulai...... You can have my girlfriend.... presuming you pay the air-fair of course Originally by: Eris Discordia gives Typherin some loving
Ikvar	Posted - 2005.06.21 10:49:00 - [23] Hey, I'd rather see people in Dreads ganking in Yulai than people in Dreads fitted with Miner IIs sucking Veldspar in Yulai. _________________
Dred 'Morte	Posted - 2005.06.21 10:51:00 - [24] Mr.Dev, can you please give me the name of those guns? They look like some sort of (Super/Uber) Dual Quad Mega Pulse/Beam (or Tachyon) Laser turret!!!!
Solarfury	Posted - 2005.06.21 11:10:00 - [25] Those guns are call Judgment Cannon.
DarkMatters	Posted - 2005.06.21 11:20:00 - [26] Originally by: Discorporation 6 guns per side, Rodj, each turret had two cannons. Those might be the XL Eqiv of Dual beam lasers, though, which makes me salivate at the thought of XL Tachyons. From the Database info they released a while back amarr dread is 4 (3 turret) High, 3 medium, 8 low. But many of the other stats looked like place holders so who knows, Those could be quad guns
DeODokktor	Posted - 2005.06.21 11:52:00 - [27] Originally by: Dan Grobag yes but if there are 3-4 dreads they would own concord, anyway i think they will rather nerf pos defence When you shoot someone in empire.. a concord group shows up.. When you kill 1 concord ship a new concord group joins in.. If you say.. happen to kill 8 concord ships.. you will have 8 concord groups.. They can warpjam you no matter what... so unless you can find some crazy way to tank the damage for half an hour then I doubt we'll see anyone doing this.
Carl Jidona	Posted - 2005.06.21 12:19:00 - [28] Originally by: infused I'm sure concord will be upgraded to Titans :) You realize that TITANS are supposed to be no more than Mobile Bases not a Super Battleship right? I would not use the stats of the EVENT TITAN thinking that all TITANS will be that way.
Tenacha Khan	Posted - 2005.06.21 16:55:00 - [29] Originally by: DeODokktor Originally by: Dan Grobag yes but if there are 3-4 dreads they would own concord, anyway i think they will rather nerf pos defence When you shoot someone in empire.. a concord group shows up.. When you kill 1 concord ship a new concord group joins in.. If you say.. happen to kill 8 concord ships.. you will have 8 concord groups.. They can warpjam you no matter what... so unless you can find some crazy way to tank the damage for half an hour then I doubt we'll see anyone doing this. 3 ships cant kill concord but 4 can U should test these things out before commenting on a thread like you know what your talking about, which you obviousley dont
Rafein	Posted - 2005.06.21 17:57:00 - [30] Of course they could. Till Concord shows up and blows it up.

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