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Max Doobie Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 77	Posted - 2013.01.10 06:23:00 - [1] - Quote Hello Newbro When I first started taking EVE seriously about 3 months ago I had big goals in EVE. I naturally thought that associating myself with the largest and most well known would get me there. I will not speak on my situation in particular, but I will say this to any new players reading this: being in a large corp/alliance doesn't mean a damned thing. If anything it's worse. It's impersonal, no one knows anyone, it's extremely cliqish and cold. Sure you'll find many within who will help you, but you're sure to find just as many inside who make it their life's plan to be the biggest asshat they can be. Do NOT fall into the wave of BS in others telling you to run after Goons, TEST, IRC, Razor, Solar, etc. Take your TIME. Some of the BEST corps out there have less than 100 folks. Everyone knows each other. There's no stress or bureaucratic BS. It's all about having some fun with cool folks. Being in a large corp/alliance isn't as fun as you think. Sure, they have lots of resources to help new players, but that's really about it. The rampant favoritism, drama and red tape really takes away from the experience IMO. Some of these larger corps/alliances tend to want robots, not people. You get trashed on forums for simply having an unpopular opinion, no matter how respectful you are. You get trampled by the stampede of brown nosers and ass kissers who are so focused on fitting in with the "KEWL KIDZ" they are willing to say and do anything it takes to be with the "in" crowd in that corp/alliance. People like myself who are NOT followers and speak for themselves will have a difficult time in this sort of environment. In fact this very thread may cst me my membership even though I stated clearly that I am not refering to any particular corp/alliance but hey...Just the way it is. I'm my own man and I speak my mind. To many of these big time corps however, You are just a cog in the machine. Get in line or stfu and gtfo. Period. It's amazing how quickly people will abandon all dignity simply to fit in in a virtual world, but there it is. Take your time newbro, and find your place. Don't shun the smaller corps simply for the sake of fitting in. Take the time to find a group of people who may not necessarily have endless isk to give you in ship reimbursements, but they actually interact with you. You've actually had a conversation with the CEO. You've actually been on Voice with the other members and laughed it up as time flew by while playing EVE and having FUN. So many noobs come, try to join the big guys, then quit when they see the ridiculous amount of BS it takes to get in. They figure settling for a smaller corp won't cut the mustard. Well I'm in the largest Alliance in EVE, and I'm telling you straight up, no BS: It ain't all it's cracked up to be. Not the worst. Not the best. Depends on the payer is my point. Don't make the mistake of assuming this is for everyone. It is not. -Max Doobie
Zack Korth Confederated Armed Traders High Rollers 206	Posted - 2013.01.10 06:28:00 - [2] - Quote tl;dr= test sucks
Max Doobie Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 77	Posted - 2013.01.10 06:33:00 - [3] - Quote Zack Korth wrote: tl;dr= test sucks lol, not at all. I'm simply saying that players shouldn't judge by size alone. ...at least not in regards to EVE.... ...in your dating life...perhaps...
Zack Korth Confederated Armed Traders High Rollers 207	Posted - 2013.01.10 06:40:00 - [4] - Quote meh, the people i know who are in test, i really like, which is probably why i'm still in an HBC corp, i've been recruited by a corp in TEST, i would have joined if not for the fear of being in a huge alliance that gets BoB'd, of course i'm still screwed if that happens, namely because i'm 60 jumps from high sec without test's jump bridges, so i appreciate test, i just don't want to be involved.
Max Doobie Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 77	Posted - 2013.01.10 06:43:00 - [5] - Quote Zack Korth wrote: meh, the people i know who are in test, i really like, which is probably why i'm still in an HBC corp, i've been recruited by a corp in TEST, i would have joined if not for the fear of being in a huge alliance that gets BoB'd, of course i'm still screwed if that happens, namely because i'm 60 jumps from high sec without test's jump bridges, so i appreciate test, i just don't want to be involved. So we're fine when we're popping your zits, cooking your sorry ass breakfast and giving up the goodies....but you won't marry us? Gotcha.
Zack Korth Confederated Armed Traders High Rollers 208	Posted - 2013.01.10 06:51:00 - [6] - Quote Max Doobie wrote: Zack Korth wrote: meh, the people i know who are in test, i really like, which is probably why i'm still in an HBC corp, i've been recruited by a corp in TEST, i would have joined if not for the fear of being in a huge alliance that gets BoB'd, of course i'm still screwed if that happens, namely because i'm 60 jumps from high sec without test's jump bridges, so i appreciate test, i just don't want to be involved. So we're fine when we're popping your zits, cooking your sorry ass breakfast and giving up the goodies....but you won't marry us? Gotcha. oh is that what its like, next time i'll leave a jet can with some quafe so you don't feel totally used
Nicolo da'Vicenza Air The Unthinkables 2538	Posted - 2013.01.10 06:53:00 - [7] - Quote lol
RubyPorto SniggWaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT 2353	Posted - 2013.01.10 07:34:00 - [8] - Quote Max Doobie wrote: Zack Korth wrote: meh, the people i know who are in test, i really like, which is probably why i'm still in an HBC corp, i've been recruited by a corp in TEST, i would have joined if not for the fear of being in a huge alliance that gets BoB'd, of course i'm still screwed if that happens, namely because i'm 60 jumps from high sec without test's jump bridges, so i appreciate test, i just don't want to be involved. So we're fine when we're popping your zits, cooking your sorry ass breakfast and giving up the goodies....but you won't marry us? Gotcha. Oh Honey, you knew he wasn't the marryin' kind when you got into bed with him. Oh, now there, there. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody. Guess Who's Back. -á Back Again.
James Amril-Kesh RAZOR Alliance 3152	Posted - 2013.01.10 07:55:00 - [9] - Quote Max Doobie wrote: Zack Korth wrote: tl;dr= test sucks lol, not at all. I'm simply saying that players shouldn't judge by size alone. ...at least not in regards to EVE.... ...in your dating life...perhaps... Confirming that in dating bigger is better. Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm
Duries Kain Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic 1	Posted - 2013.01.10 08:43:00 - [10] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Max Doobie wrote: Zack Korth wrote: tl;dr= test sucks lol, not at all. I'm simply saying that players shouldn't judge by size alone. ...at least not in regards to EVE.... ...in your dating life...perhaps... Confirming that in dating bigger is better. if this is related to a purse, then true.
Mhax Arthie University of Caille Gallente Federation 24	Posted - 2013.01.10 08:54:00 - [11] - Quote I think the best corp is the npc corp :D The CEO has no personal ego's, ambitions, rules.. actually he don't give a fok about what you do as long you pay the 11% rate, is why the npc CEO's are the best! Also, the members are very cool, there is a large variety of players from nubs to pro's, brilliant economist up to cold blood killers.. there is always something new to learn :P
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 6900	Posted - 2013.01.10 08:57:00 - [12] - Quote Mhax Arthie wrote: I think the best corp is the npc corp :D The CEO has no personal ego's, ambitions, rules.. actually he don't give a fok about what you do as long you pay the 11% rate, is why the npc CEO's are the best! Also, the members are very cool, there is a large variety of players from nubs to pro's, brilliant economist up to cold blood killers.. there is always something new to learn :P How's the UoC ship replacement program? MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button."
Arkon Olacar Imperial Guardians Tribal Band 191	Posted - 2013.01.10 09:26:00 - [13] - Quote Max Doobie wrote: You get trashed on forums for simply having an unpopular opinion, no matter how respectful you are. You get trampled by the stampede of brown nosers and ass kissers who are so focused on fitting in with the "KEWL KIDZ" they are willing to say and do anything it takes to be with the "in" crowd in that corp/alliance. People like myself who are NOT followers and speak for themselves will have a difficult time in this sort of environment. In fact this very thread may cst me my membership even though I stated clearly that I am not refering to any particular corp/alliance but hey...Just the way it is. I'm my own man and I speak my mind. Literally Gevlon Goblin "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012 Umad forum warriors?
Mhax Arthie University of Caille Gallente Federation 24	Posted - 2013.01.10 09:28:00 - [14] - Quote Malcanis wrote: Mhax Arthie wrote: I think the best corp is the npc corp :D The CEO has no personal ego's, ambitions, rules.. actually he don't give a fok about what you do as long you pay the 11% rate, is why the npc CEO's are the best! Also, the members are very cool, there is a large variety of players from nubs to pro's, brilliant economist up to cold blood killers.. there is always something new to learn :P How's the UoC ship replacement program? Errr.. what? You join a corp/alliance onle because the ship replacement program? Now.. that makes you a real zombie: "here is a ship, step in and go fight for my personal ambitions and wallet". Yeah right... PS: Waiting for servers go online I just skilled Forum Trolling to lvl 1, so don't take everything too serious.
Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 575	Posted - 2013.01.10 09:51:00 - [15] - Quote When are you leaving? It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½
Ildryn Xiloite 64	Posted - 2013.01.10 10:55:00 - [16] - Quote Max Doobie wrote: Hello Newbro When I first started taking EVE seriously about 3 months ago I had big goals in EVE. I naturally thought that associating myself with the largest and most well known would get me there. I will not speak on my situation in particular, but I will say this to any new players reading this: being in a large corp/alliance doesn't mean a damned thing. If anything it's worse. It's impersonal, no one knows anyone, it's extremely cliquish and cold. Sure you'll find many within who will help you, but you're sure to find just as many inside who make it their life's plan to be the biggest asshat they can be. Do NOT fall into the wave of BS in others telling you to run after Goons, TEST, IRC, Razor, Solar, etc. Take your TIME. Some of the BEST corps out there have less than 100 folks. Everyone knows each other. There's no stress or bureaucratic BS. It's all about having some fun with cool folks. Being in a large corp/alliance isn't as fun as you think. Sure, they have lots of resources to help new players, but that's really about it. The rampant favoritism, drama and red tape really takes away from the experience IMO. Max Doobie wrote: If TEST and Goons are so hostile to new people, how come we have the largest pools of noobs out of any other alliance in game, apart from Ivy League of course? How do you think we got so large? By scamming brand new players? By being snobby and telling new players to just figure it out and gtfo of our faces? No. TEST and Goons are the poster children for inclusion and patience. That's why people envy us. I speak as a new player myself, CCP owes HBC and CFC for my 3 accounts, I can tell you that with a straight face. I found some cool people to play with, patient and knowledgeable. THEY are the reason I stayed. From two different topics.... What is this i don't even?
Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 575	Posted - 2013.01.10 11:06:00 - [17] - Quote Ildryn wrote: From two different topics.... What is this i don't even? Max Doobie is not known for his consistency, his rationality, his trustworthiness or his truthfulness. Perhaps someone said something rude in corp chat last night that spurred him to create this post? Who knows? It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½
iskflakes Magnets Inc. 259	Posted - 2013.01.10 11:09:00 - [18] - Quote tl;dr If you like blobbing join TEST and CFC. Otherwise join a smaller lowsec corp. Track your wealth with EVEStats - https://ohheck.co.uk/EVEStats/home.php
Tora Bushido EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective 214	Posted - 2013.01.10 11:12:00 - [19] - Quote Size doesn't matter. Its how you use it..... My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
Zagdul Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension 1260	Posted - 2013.01.10 11:25:00 - [20] - Quote Zack Korth wrote: meh, the people i know who are in test, i really like, which is probably why i'm still in an HBC corp, i've been recruited by a corp in TEST, i would have joined if not for the fear of being in a huge alliance that gets BoB'd, of course i'm still screwed if that happens, namely because i'm 60 jumps from high sec without test's jump bridges, so i appreciate test, i just don't want to be involved. Alliances rising and falling happens all the time in EVE. Knowing and expecting it makes the game a better experience. If you live your EVE life trying to preserve everything, you're setting yourself up for disappointment. What OP is saying is that you should join a group of similar interests instead of trying to find an 'end game' so that your ride while playing eve is more enjoyable. Dual Pane idea: Click! CCP Please Implement
Randolph Rothstein whatever corp. 311	Posted - 2013.01.10 12:11:00 - [21] - Quote i have problem with authorities...thats why i made my own corp.
Max Doobie Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 91	Posted - 2013.01.10 12:33:00 - [22] - Quote Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: Ildryn wrote: From two different topics.... What is this i don't even? Max Doobie is not known for his consistency, his rationality, his trustworthiness or his truthfulness. Perhaps someone said something rude in corp chat last night that spurred him to create this post? Who knows? 2 things: Notice how the flunkie uses an alt that I do not recognize. Notice how the flunkie in his mad dash to score brownie points, shows how he didn't actually read the post, as I stated clearly that I wasn't referring to anyone in particular. I EVEN stated that I expected someone to do exactly what he did.
Max Doobie Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 91	Posted - 2013.01.10 12:35:00 - [23] - Quote Ildryn wrote: Max Doobie wrote: Hello Newbro When I first started taking EVE seriously about 3 months ago I had big goals in EVE. I naturally thought that associating myself with the largest and most well known would get me there. I will not speak on my situation in particular, but I will say this to any new players reading this: being in a large corp/alliance doesn't mean a damned thing. If anything it's worse. It's impersonal, no one knows anyone, it's extremely cliquish and cold. Sure you'll find many within who will help you, but you're sure to find just as many inside who make it their life's plan to be the biggest asshat they can be. Do NOT fall into the wave of BS in others telling you to run after Goons, TEST, IRC, Razor, Solar, etc. Take your TIME. Some of the BEST corps out there have less than 100 folks. Everyone knows each other. There's no stress or bureaucratic BS. It's all about having some fun with cool folks. Being in a large corp/alliance isn't as fun as you think. Sure, they have lots of resources to help new players, but that's really about it. The rampant favoritism, drama and red tape really takes away from the experience IMO. Max Doobie wrote: If TEST and Goons are so hostile to new people, how come we have the largest pools of noobs out of any other alliance in game, apart from Ivy League of course? How do you think we got so large? By scamming brand new players? By being snobby and telling new players to just figure it out and gtfo of our faces? No. TEST and Goons are the poster children for inclusion and patience. That's why people envy us. I speak as a new player myself, CCP owes HBC and CFC for my 3 accounts, I can tell you that with a straight face. I found some cool people to play with, patient and knowledgeable. THEY are the reason I stayed. From two different topics.... What is this i don't even?
Carribean Queen Vadimus Quarrier Works The Big Dirty 13	Posted - 2013.01.10 12:40:00 - [24] - Quote Hello Mister Meat Shield.
Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 575	Posted - 2013.01.10 12:44:00 - [25] - Quote Max Doobie wrote: Notice how the flunkie uses an alt that I do not recognize. Notice how the flunkie in his mad dash to score brownie points, shows how he didn't actually read the post, as I stated clearly that I wasn't referring to anyone in particular. I EVEN stated that I expected someone to do exactly what he did. I'm utterly devastated that you didn't recognise me, but we've spoken in your thread here. I suppose you didn't catch my name because you were still referring to people by their forum titles back then. It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½
Inquisitor Kitchner Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes 806	Posted - 2013.01.10 12:46:00 - [26] - Quote Like most Test posters the OP is a terrible poster "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
James Amril-Kesh RAZOR Alliance 3154	Posted - 2013.01.10 12:47:00 - [27] - Quote Inquisitor Kitchner wrote: Like most Test posters the OP is a terrible poster QFT Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm
Max Doobie Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 91	Posted - 2013.01.10 12:47:00 - [28] - Quote Kainotomiu Ronuken wrote: Max Doobie wrote: Notice how the flunkie uses an alt that I do not recognize. Notice how the flunkie in his mad dash to score brownie points, shows how he didn't actually read the post, as I stated clearly that I wasn't referring to anyone in particular. I EVEN stated that I expected someone to do exactly what he did. I'm utterly devastated that you didn't recognise me, but we've spoken in your thread here. I suppose you didn't catch my name because you were still referring to people by their forum titles back then. Well, again, I stated I was wasn't necessarily talking about HBC or CFC, but if you want to run back and tattle, be my guest. I'm not going to be anyone's yes man. If I am to be booted for having an opinion, so be it.
James Amril-Kesh RAZOR Alliance 3154	Posted - 2013.01.10 12:49:00 - [29] - Quote Booted from Dreddit? Does that even happen? I mean, outside of spies and awoxers, obviously. Or supposed spies with their shiny Aeons... Phrases like "you can't nerf / buff X EVE is a Sandbox" have the same amount of meaning as "If this is a sack of potatoes then you can not carrot." - Alara IonStorm
Kainotomiu Ronuken Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 575	Posted - 2013.01.10 12:51:00 - [30] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Booted from Dreddit? Does that even happen? I mean, outside of spies and awoxers, obviously. Or supposed spies with their shiny Aeons... Gevlon Goblin managed it. Max Doobie may be trying his hardest, but he's a far less efficient troll than Gevlon was, and he's nowhere near as good at choosing targets to annoy. Edit: I think Xenuria may have been kicked too. It is never too late to change your ways. --- -+-+-+-+-+ www.MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½

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