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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 03:47:00 -
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Well after accepting a 1v1 and being promised no interfernce from anyoneelse it was me in my crow vs, him in his ranis, so i thought. It started out like that but then about 30 seconds into the fight a sniper poc locks me and proceeds to insta pop my crow, thank you for being so honourable in your 1v1 fights, thought after the fight of afj I could have some sort of trust for them being a honourable enemy. I sure hope the individuals involved int his were nto a representation of all of ASCN.
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Trepkos
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Posted - 2005.06.21 03:49:00 -
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Do you honestly expect anything more from ASCN?
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Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2005.06.21 03:51:00 -
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says one whose corporation is known to log off in combat.
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DeathGrip
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Posted - 2005.06.21 03:52:00 -
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Edited by: DeathGrip on 21/06/2005 03:57:01 This ticks me off, and I appologize for this. Others dont feel teh same way, but i do.
[i]Everyone needs to bring PVP to the table, Miners, Builders, Researchers, Get yourself a Frig, and help out some, You may even |
Lansfear
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Posted - 2005.06.21 03:58:00 -
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Doesn't sound like something DDC would allow. Not speaking for the other corps.
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VonKaplanek III
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:03:00 -
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I warped in because Robster said on TS something to the effect of "Hey he has armor!!" thats BS!!! he didnt tell me that!!, i think he felt as if you betrayed him so he was quick to say "jump in" this is crap!!, and i was lined up. Besides i couldnt help but jump for the chance to pop you again Id chalk it up to a misunderstanding. Dishonoring a 1 vs 1 is not until your dishonored and he thought he was and it was too late to call that back, sorry bout your loss, but it was fun, no?
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:05:00 -
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How did i lie i never said i didnt have armor, I had less than half structure.Either way does it matter he had full shields armor and structure. I have no respect for you anymore.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:06:00 -
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And eys it was real fun to have what would of been a good fight, doen in about 2 secs.
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Voltron
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:20:00 -
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Wow, what a joke......you're so hard up for a kill that you'll intervene in a ceptor 1v1 with a snipapoc? Had some respect for ya'll, but its out the window totally yet again.
Volt
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Robstr
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:23:00 -
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Edited by: Robstr on 21/06/2005 04:25:11 Edited by: Robstr on 21/06/2005 04:23:38 You said, I'm half dead
I made more than enough allowances for you, I took myself to half armor, and was willing to let you gang me and meet me at a safespot of yours so no interfearance would be possible barring probes launched fomr an Enyo or and Apoc, who were more than willing to leave the system if you had requested, you chose not to do either.
I miss understood, I even sent and appologie you repyled by calling me a ****.
Way to be mature about it.
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jamesw
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:26:00 -
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Don't fight 1v1's, it only ends in tears. If you want to 1v1 go on sisi for christ's sake. On TQ, anything goes. -- jamesw Rubra Libertas Militia
Originally by: RollinDutchMasters I fly a dominix, its like a portable blob in a can
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VonKaplanek III
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:27:00 -
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Come back in a BS again and stop starting fires on the forum.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:29:00 -
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lol tbh i didnt care about your armor or anything, only thing I was concerned abotu was interference, well now I found out, you guys will interefere with 1v1's, there fore i will no longer be having 1v1's with you guys. I thought my response was quiete mature, I was as polite as possible, just trying to tell you that there will be no future 1v1's.
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Goulag
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: Uggs386 lol tbh i didnt care about your armor or anything, only thing I was concerned abotu was interference, well now I found out, you guys will interefere with 1v1's, there fore i will no longer be having 1v1's with you guys. I thought my response was quiete mature, I was as polite as possible, just trying to tell you that there will be no future 1v1's.
and you needed to make an entire thread to say that? guess your sig suits ya
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:31:00 -
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Edited by: Uggs386 on 21/06/2005 04:34:15 Not to mention the armor you lost you repaired right away at begining of the battle so you were at full hp, but it didnt bother me i didnt start whining about it, I continued on till all of a sudden my mail flashes and my ship is gone, and all i see in local is you have full armor when i clearly didnt say anything about nto having armor. I will say it again see you in space, I didnt mean to start fires with this. This was merely to warn other eve players.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:33:00 -
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Edited by: Uggs386 on 21/06/2005 04:33:31 double post
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DeathGrip
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:37:00 -
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Sry, what I posted above is my thoughts, and not that of DDC nor of the Alliance.
[i]Everyone needs to bring PVP to the table, Miners, Builders, Researchers, Get yourself a Frig, and help out some, You may even |
pringprang
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:40:00 -
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Edited by: pringprang on 21/06/2005 04:41:49 First of all Uggs shows up in a crow by himself in our space. He starts shooting at haulers and tech 1 frigates. Challenging I know. About 10 minutes later he's camped in a systema nd we didn't know if he had any bms or not. He was offered a 1v1 while there were about 10 of us in local. He basically tells us there's no way in hell that he will fight with so many people in local. Ask Yve Steel from G if anyone interfered in his inty fight while all of us were in local. We arn't cheapskates but I told Uggs if he's the kind of player who comes down to shoot haulers and nothing else then we were going to blob him like a lamer and blob him just like all the other numbnuts who do that to alliances. The alternative is obviously accepting 1v1s when they are offered and trying to have some fun and still show some respect to your corp and your enemies.
Everyone left local except for myself and Robstr. I stayed on teh gate to warn our group if he tried to get through and Robstr was trying ot get him into a 1v1. Uggs then started saying he would not do it because his ship was "half-dead". Rob had me shoot him until he was at half armour to even things out. Uggs watched us do this from 300km out. Uggs then agreed to fight. He refused to gang Robstr though and told him to fly the 300km so they could fight. Von jumped in due to a misunderstanding and stayed to watch.
Rob flew his taranis out to Uggs' crow and they manuevred for a bit. When the fight started Rob said on TS "He lied. He doesn't have armour damage, warp to me. " So we did thinking he had tricked Rob into fighting 300km away with half armour.
We didn't set him up and then gank him for ****s and giggles. We found out later that when he said he was "half-dead" he was talking about structure. He came into our space, by himself, after his corp declared hostilities on our alliance and got podded. Big deal.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:46:00 -
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So because of a misunderstanding on your part I get ganked in a 1v1 and it isnt dishonourable. No one stopped oyu from asking how much damage was doen to my crow. And like I said the damage was the reason i gave in local but the real reason for being hesitant was that i didnt trust you with 10 peeps around, and now I realize i shouldnt.
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Robstr
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:54:00 -
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And if you were thinking and ganged me like I said there would have been no way for them to warp to us. But I suppose your brain was half dead aswell eh?
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 04:57:00 -
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Here we go instead of maybe a simple apology I get flamed, instead of maybe admiting you made a mistake I get flamed, and my intellegence is insulted.
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.06.21 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Uggs386 Here we go instead of maybe a simple apology I get flamed, instead of maybe admiting you made a mistake I get flamed, and my intellegence is insulted.
Perhaps you should post less and reflect more.
Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to sufferingggg
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Malken [VOTF] > haha your pathetic nebba, i bet 1 isk that you have never done more then 1.1dmg to anyone in your life |
pringprang
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Posted - 2005.06.21 05:00:00 -
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It's not like we're sitting here laughing about how gullible you were Uggs. Rob sent an evemail apologizing before we heard about this thread. It's regrettable and pretty ****ty that it happened like that but its not something to lose sleep over and its not really worthy of the post you made.
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Murphy
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Posted - 2005.06.21 05:01:00 -
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Uggs is just cranky cause he dies so much when he comes to our space. Must have a faulty clone
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 05:01:00 -
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Rob didnt do anything wrong imo he wasnt the one who interefered, maybe I'm lookign for an apology for the person who actually interefered ever thoguh of that, however rob has decided along with the rest of you guys to flame me.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 05:03:00 -
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Omg Ive lost 2 ships and one pod in your space i must be really sick of dying.
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Nebba Kenezzer
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Posted - 2005.06.21 05:04:00 -
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Originally by: Uggs386 Rob didnt do anything wrong imo he wasnt the one who interefered, maybe I'm lookign for an apology for the person who actually interefered ever thoguh of that, however rob has decided along with the rest of you guys to flame me.
this forum does not suit personal apologies well enough, I'm afraid
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Malken [VOTF] > haha your pathetic nebba, i bet 1 isk that you have never done more then 1.1dmg to anyone in your life |
Adhamhnon
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Posted - 2005.06.21 05:06:00 -
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Responding to one small incident that clearly was something that got screwed up from what was said here as "ASCN is Dishonourable" isn't likely to get you the best results. Apparently an apology for the mistake was mailed to you, yet you chose to come here and bash the entire alliance anyway.
I'd actually compare it to the tactic of claiming an entire corp is dishonourable because one of their members supposedly logged in combat... I wonder how much you guys liked that when Cartiff was accused of it and people slammed you? Stop and think before you go bashing an entire group of people for one small incident, cause I know for a fact you'd get your back up to if the shoe was on the other foot.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 05:10:00 -
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Edited by: Uggs386 on 21/06/2005 05:13:53
Originally by: Adhamhnon Responding to one small incident that clearly was something that got screwed up from what was said here as "ASCN is Dishonourable" isn't likely to get you the best results. Apparently an apology for the mistake was mailed to you, yet you chose to come here and bash the entire alliance anyway.
I'd actually compare it to the tactic of claiming an entire corp is dishonourable because one of their members supposedly logged in combat... I wonder how much you guys liked that when Cartiff was accused of it and people slammed you? Stop and think before you go bashing an entire group of people for one small incident, cause I know for a fact you'd get your back up to if the shoe was on the other foot.
Read my original post I state that I really hope all of ascn does not behave like this, and yes i got an apology from someone who didnt do anything wrong. He even states in his apology mail he had no idea what the apoc was doing, so I really havent recieved much of an apology until the individual who interferes apoligizes actually apologizes, and I am Sorry for any generalizations about your alliance I will change the Topic immediately.
Anyways I'm off to bed had enough of this stuff for right now, flame away while I sleep.
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lobaloboboboboz
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Posted - 2005.06.21 05:16:00 -
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more whine plz
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cordy
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Posted - 2005.06.21 05:28:00 -
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As i can see it, it has nothing to do with dishonor but with helping someone out thinking he had been lied to one guy defending his alliance mate calls out for unity. I understand your frustration uggs and there for ill apologize for solar storm but rob did what he thought was right and as a good ceo ill back my members up, but i hope you accept this appologie.
Co-ceo Of solst
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Hellspawn666
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Posted - 2005.06.21 06:56:00 -
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hmm sounds like a sucky situation only takes one pilot to screw the whole 1v1 system and no1 trusts anyone. Well if the guys sorry about it he should pay for his loss's and state an apology to prove his honour. If not fair do's some people like to play this game of screw over who you can.
Personally wen i do 1v1's (always bs) i have my buddy ready to warp in ONLY if they try anything that way it gives u some kinda power to get hte hell outa there. I also insist that i gang the guy from a ss (which i make as far away as possible from where the enemy fleet is) then if either of us leave the gang or sum1 else joins it we know either of us are gonna screw sumone over. I usually have my friends scnaning the enemy fleet too, to see if they warp off that way u generally cover yourself from ****wits.
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Weebear
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Posted - 2005.06.21 11:01:00 -
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Do people complain about these things just for the sake of complaining? Where was the point in posting this? There was a mis-understanding, and the pilot who offered the 1 vs 1 apologised for it. End of story.
Posting things on this forum in particular is probably the worst thing to do for anyone looking for an apology, but of course thats not what you were looking for. It's just an opportunity to make other people look bad because you felt a bitter about losing your ship.
We should really get a different forum for these type of posts, as they don't belong in Corp and Alliance discussion. How about a Judge Judy Decides forum....
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AfterShock
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Posted - 2005.06.21 11:30:00 -
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I apologize for the incident you were involved in. I was not there but from reading this thread, I see micommunication and misunderstanding involved.
All I can offer is reimbursment for your loss in order to put this matter to a close, if you have not been reimbursed already.
I would like to also see the killmail from both the victem and the killer.
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Bad'Boy
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Posted - 2005.06.21 11:31:00 -
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***s
MAXSuicide > I LOVE U SIIM MAXSuicide > lets go outback for a quicky siim > that was so desperate attempt
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Hydroponica
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Posted - 2005.06.21 11:56:00 -
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Alls fair in love and war. Sry if someone alrdy said this, it'smuch to early in the morning to read all 3 pages of nothing ***********************************
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.06.21 12:06:00 -
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hmmm, dead horse!
when will people understand that entering a 1 vs 1 or whatever is at your own peril. Some people will honor it, some people wont. Simple as that. Even tho I agree its low its hardly threadworthy...
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Will Fireblade
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Posted - 2005.06.21 12:07:00 -
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ASCN are little brats smack talking kids what did you expect uggs..
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.06.21 12:08:00 -
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and another thing.
Its your own stupidity that got you killed. You engaged in a 1 vs 1 near a sniperpoc? thats just asking to be popped. atleast move out so that he has to warp to you and give you some warning...
And will... you guys arent better
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Everay
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Posted - 2005.06.21 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Will Fireblade ASCN are little brats smack talking kids what did you expect uggs..
Will i took part in killing you twice over the past few days, noone smacked then. ( i think that was you last night)
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Equinox II
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Posted - 2005.06.21 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Will Fireblade ASCN are little brats smack talking kids what did you expect uggs..
So everyone in ASCN is a little smack-talking brat/kid? Thnx for that one, and how exactly is this not smack? I also love people who generalize...
I actually have a lot of respect for many of the NBSI guys, you however don't make it on that list.
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Eleese
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Posted - 2005.06.21 12:57:00 -
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Ok so 1) its 1 vs ascn pilot vs ER guy 2) it happens ascn pilot get confused thinks u meant half armour. when u had half structure so calls in help. (yes calls in help) 3) the dueling pilot in ascn made am istake and apologises for it. 4) you come here whining about it ? and now want an apology from the sniper guy ... who responded to the guy dueling's request to warp to him and help? which makes the dishonourable act the dueling guys fault rob... who apologised to you before they saw or before this thread was posted.
Think you need to relook at the situation and reflect on you look an ass on the forum :)
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.06.21 13:17:00 -
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Whoinage!
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.06.21 13:26:00 -
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Quote: t is for this very reason that i never accept arranged 1on1s. If i bump into people on my own, i will engage, but if someone asks me for a 1on1, its a short sharp "no thanks"
Good point there. So when you do get popped, atleast you dont go nuts on the forum about how you got gheyed. Arranged 1vs1 are fun though, and aside from the off chance of getting raped, it works out well.
I suffered the getting sniped by Fedaykin tempest after his buddy realised that his harpy was gonna die to my crusader. I died :) But so did the HARPY!!! Feddie did what he had to... I was keeping my eyes out for the warp in.
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Cinnander
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Posted - 2005.06.21 13:52:00 -
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Edited by: Cinnander on 21/06/2005 13:56:15 OMG WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?? OMG NOW WE DONT HAVE ANY FORUM HONOUR POINTS (FHP) WTF YOU NOOBS
OMG.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:02:00 -
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A 1 vs. 1 fight has not a damn thing to do with skill. It's a module fitting contest and always has been from the day the servers went live. It's pretty cool when you end up in a 1 on 1 situation and come out on top, and fun sometimes even when you lose, but actually setting up such a fight and expecting it to go off as planned? It usually ends just like this one. -
T2 Weapons Testing in progress! Volunteer today! |
DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:04:00 -
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Edited by: DrunkenOne on 21/06/2005 14:04:31 E-R & friends are****s but cheating in an arranged 1v1 is pathetic.
If you are that bad at eve to accept a 1v1, then need a BS to save you, just save everyone the trouble and quit now.
I've had several fun 1v1s against E-R (not arranged but at gates), and while they forum smack far too much for such an insignificant group, I do have to give them props for running around hostile territory trying to find 1v1s at gates, something which I always do.
Originally by: Seleene A 1 vs. 1 fight has not a damn thing to do with skill. It's a module fitting contest and always has been from the day the servers went live. It's pretty cool when you end up in a 1 on 1 situation and come out on top, and fun sometimes even when you lose, but actually setting up such a fight and expecting it to go off as planned? It usually ends just like this one.
Not in inty v inty. Piloting skills come into play in inty v inty more than anything else in eve.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:06:00 -
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Edited by: DrunkenOne on 21/06/2005 14:05:45
Originally by: Stormfront
I suffered the getting sniped by Fedaykin tempest after his buddy realised that his harpy was gonna die to my crusader. I died :) But so did the HARPY!!! Feddie did what he had to... I was keeping my eyes out for the warp in.
Say "thank you drunk for opening my eyes"
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Stormfront
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:08:00 -
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I'm officially training the "Have Drunkenones babies" skill to lvl 1
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Weebear Do people complain about these things just for the sake of complaining? Where was the point in posting this? There was a mis-understanding, and the pilot who offered the 1 vs 1 apologised for it. End of story.
Posting things on this forum in particular is probably the worst thing to do for anyone looking for an apology, but of course thats not what you were looking for. It's just an opportunity to make other people look bad because you felt a bitter about losing your ship.
We should really get a different forum for these type of posts, as they don't belong in Corp and Alliance discussion. How about a Judge Judy Decides forum....
I'm a forum ***** did oyu expect me not to post it.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: Hast and another thing.
Its your own stupidity that got you killed. You engaged in a 1 vs 1 near a sniperpoc? thats just asking to be popped. atleast move out so that he has to warp to you and give you some warning...
And will... you guys arent better
Hast I was 300-400km away from the sniperpoc, was to focused on the 1v1 to notice them warp in and when i realised I was locked it was too late. I'm not a noob to 1v1's.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:16:00 -
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Originally by: Eleese Ok so 1) its 1 vs ascn pilot vs ER guy 2) it happens ascn pilot get confused thinks u meant half armour. when u had half structure so calls in help. (yes calls in help) 3) the dueling pilot in ascn made am istake and apologises for it. 4) you come here whining about it ? and now want an apology from the sniper guy ... who responded to the guy dueling's request to warp to him and help? which makes the dishonourable act the dueling guys fault rob... who apologised to you before they saw or before this thread was posted.
Think you need to relook at the situation and reflect on you look an ass on the forum :)
He said in his apology letter that he had no idea what the apoc was doing he only asked the assault frig to warp in therefore he took no accountability for the apoc's actions.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:21:00 -
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The fact that he called in the sniperapoc to help because "you had armor" is probably the most pathetic part. So basically he was like "omgwtf its an equal fight, i thought he was 1/2 dead, now i must call for help because its fair fight!!!111"
Even more pathetic than Maza yesterday in hed refusing to 1v1 my INTERCEPTOR in an ASSAULT FRIGATE, the excuses were hilarious.
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Weebear
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:28:00 -
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Edited by: Weebear on 21/06/2005 14:28:44
Originally by: DrunkenOne So basically he was like "omgwtf its an equal fight, i thought he was 1/2 dead, now i must call for help because its fair fight!!!111"
From the first page......
Quote: Uggs then started saying he would not do it because his ship was "half-dead". Rob had me shoot him until he was at half armour to even things out.
Uggs was at half structure, not half armor, which is where the misunderstanding comes from. I know which I would rather have half of...
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:33:00 -
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Originally by: Weebear Edited by: Weebear on 21/06/2005 14:28:44
Originally by: DrunkenOne So basically he was like "omgwtf its an equal fight, i thought he was 1/2 dead, now i must call for help because its fair fight!!!111"
From the first page......
Quote: Uggs then started saying he would not do it because his ship was "half-dead". Rob had me shoot him until he was at half armour to even things out.
Uggs was at half structure, not half armor, which is where the misunderstanding comes from. I know which I would rather have half of...
Ahh didnt see that, I only have reading comprehension at lvl 2 atm.
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Hast
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: Uggs386
Originally by: Hast and another thing.
Its your own stupidity that got you killed. You engaged in a 1 vs 1 near a sniperpoc? thats just asking to be popped. atleast move out so that he has to warp to you and give you some warning...
And will... you guys arent better
Hast I was 300-400km away from the sniperpoc, was to focused on the 1v1 to notice them warp in and when i realised I was locked it was too late. I'm not a noob to 1v1's.
ah, ok, misunderstood you then. I usually watch the velocity of the other ships and if I see them start gaining speed I get ready to get the hell out of there.
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Angelus X
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:47:00 -
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Guys ,
(1) Please read a thread in its entirity before posting brash comments!
(2) After watching in local last night in HED, a MAZA pilot try to convince an ATUK pilot that if he was willing to duel at the SV5 gate alongside the MAZA pilots five buddies they would not interfere I don't think you guys can comment on breaking duels.
(3) I myself have had over a dozen duels in the past few weeks, both in the North and South, and have never had a problem with people being dishonourable. Please don't attempt to label an alliance of over 1000 members (+alts?) by the actions of a few, whether or not they were right, or wrong (although in this case 'accidental' seems to be the best word to describe them).
(4) Oh and lastly if you truly do believe that ASCN has 'lost face' in this single, rather confusing thread, then PERSONALLY your the type of person who I couldn't care if they respected us or not.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.21 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: DrunkenOne on 21/06/2005 14:54:23
Originally by: Angelus X
(2) After watching in local last night in HED, a MAZA pilot try to convince an ATUK pilot that if he was willing to duel at the SV5 gate alongside the MAZA pilots five buddies they would not interfere I don't think you guys can comment on breaking duels.
That made me a sad panda . I was in an interceptor and he was in a wolf and he agreed to a 1v1, then asid "ok warp to me at the sv5 gate and we will 1v1 my friends wont interfere." A neutral offered to gang us both and warp us to a safespot and then leave and let us 1v1 but he refused.
I think my personal favorite excuses as to why he wouldn't duel were "I'm not fit for fighting 1v1s I'm fit for gang (I was also in a gang)," "This is my first time flying assault frigs (so why did you want to 1v1?)," Oh and of course "lolol if you want to kill me then bring more friends!!111"
Of course after that they all decided to chase me when I jumped into your waiting frig fleet, and they got owned and safespotted and logged, so I guess I took his advice about bringing more friends.
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.06.21 15:51:00 -
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Edited by: Krapz on 21/06/2005 15:51:51 This is quite possibly the quirkiest thing I've read posted out of E-R to date Uggs. Like I've said, I respect you guys as PvP'ers. I know you are good tacticians and what not, and very poor diplomats, and probably self-admittedly too. Perhaps this thread only reinforces it.
If you wanted money cuz you felt jipped, just ask, and I'm sure someone would have repaid youThis is quite possibly the quirkiest thing I've read posted out of E-R to date Uggs. Like I've said, I tried to respect you guys as PvP'ers. I know you are good tacticians and what not, and very poor diplomats. Perhaps this thread only reinforces it.
So try these on for size.
"When do you quit beating your wife?" "When did you quit using all those drugs?" "Do you still like little boys?"
The point is, none of them would be true, but it's the allegations that do the damage, isn't it?
Poor form for you guys to come in here and flame a guy for this. If it's a 1 v 1 that goes bad, and you can't reesolve it amongst yourselves, then wtf does each other's corps or alliances have to do with it? If it were fleet combat, 60 on 60, that may be different, but that is obviously not the case here. Come on, 3 ppl witnessed this incident and you want to make some sort of Eve-O drama out of it. Come on.
I don't think any different of E-R over the issue, but I obviously do think different about Uggs, and the ppl involved if this can't get resolved. See how that works?
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Konietzko
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Posted - 2005.06.21 16:10:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne Edited by: DrunkenOne on 21/06/2005 14:54:23
Originally by: Angelus X
(2) After watching in local last night in HED, a MAZA pilot try to convince an ATUK pilot that if he was willing to duel at the SV5 gate alongside the MAZA pilots five buddies they would not interfere I don't think you guys can comment on breaking duels.
That made me a sad panda . I was in an interceptor and he was in a wolf and he agreed to a 1v1, then asid "ok warp to me at the sv5 gate and we will 1v1 my friends wont interfere." A neutral offered to gang us both and warp us to a safespot and then leave and let us 1v1 but he refused.
I think my personal favorite excuses as to why he wouldn't duel were "I'm not fit for fighting 1v1s I'm fit for gang (I was also in a gang)," "This is my first time flying assault frigs (so why did you want to 1v1?)," Oh and of course "lolol if you want to kill me then bring more friends!!111"
Of course after that they all decided to chase me when I jumped into your waiting frig fleet, and they got owned and safespotted and logged, so I guess I took his advice about bringing more friends.
Someone probably told him that you often fit just to kill wolves.
--- Konietzko [botox bandits]
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.21 16:21:00 -
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Originally by: Konietzko Someone probably told him that you often fit just to kill wolves.
Haha nah, we need to 1v1 again, that was when I was using mayas setup, and lets say that my setup is a bit different now.
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John Blackthorn
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Posted - 2005.06.21 16:38:00 -
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Edited by: John Blackthorn on 21/06/2005 16:42:22 This happend to me just the other day as well. I had a ship that I just wanted to play around with and test out. Found one of the guys we were at war with and asked him on local if he wanted to 1v1.
He was like tell all your friends to leave system.. blah blah. so they did. So he asks where I am. I tell him at at the gate. He warps in starts to attack.
Funny thing is he is in a crow and i'm in a blackbird. And he is beating me, then his two friends come through the gate and finish me off.
When they started firing on me I was already in 1/2 into my armor. The crow would have won solo but he had to break what I felt would be an honrable fight.
Guess I know better now, don't 1v1 anyone anymore, just be as dirty and lowhanded as possible and pawn them.
-BT
p.s. oh yea I was pure jamming and no shild/armor tanking.
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Will Fireblade
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Posted - 2005.06.21 16:41:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne The fact that he called in the sniperapoc to help because "you had armor" is probably the most pathetic part. So basically he was like "omgwtf its an equal fight, i thought he was 1/2 dead, now i must call for help because its fair fight!!!111"
Even more pathetic than Maza yesterday in hed refusing to 1v1 my INTERCEPTOR in an ASSAULT FRIGATE, the excuses were hilarious.
LOL equinox sorry you feel that way dude most of you are.. and here is my proof! I dont know most of you i only know the ones i met and the ones i met smack talk like little brat kids like this one here bla bla bla all the time.. you are boring man get over it.
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Zardock
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Posted - 2005.06.21 16:45:00 -
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I understand your frustration Uggs, but I think you should know that I stopped reading when you implied that the actions of one person reflected the mentality of an entire alliance.
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Alowishus
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Posted - 2005.06.21 16:47:00 -
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Arranged fights on TQ are just stupid. If you agree to one then you have nobody to blame but yourself if it goes wrong. People offer 1v1 fights all the time to me. Even honorable people who I know would stick to them. But I always decline because arranged fights go against my even loose RP philosophy.
My favorite is people who you actually blow up who then want to come back in a different ship/setup, knowing your setup and strategy, and have another 1v1, like it's going to prove something other than setup B didn't work against setup A but maybe setup C will.
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.21 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: DrunkenOne on 21/06/2005 16:51:23
Originally by: Will Fireblade
Originally by: DrunkenOne The fact that he called in the sniperapoc to help because "you had armor" is probably the most pathetic part. So basically he was like "omgwtf its an equal fight, i thought he was 1/2 dead, now i must call for help because its fair fight!!!111"
Even more pathetic than Maza yesterday in hed refusing to 1v1 my INTERCEPTOR in an ASSAULT FRIGATE, the excuses were hilarious.
LOL equinox sorry you feel that way dude most of you are.. and here is my proof! I dont know most of you i only know the ones i met and the ones i met smack talk like little brat kids like this one here bla bla bla all the time.. you are boring man get over it.
How is it smack when its true? Truth=smack now? Are you going to deny that you said those things in local or that you pathetically expected me to 1v1 you next to your 5 frigs?
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Will Fireblade
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Posted - 2005.06.21 16:57:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne Edited by: DrunkenOne on 21/06/2005 16:51:23
Originally by: Will Fireblade
Originally by: DrunkenOne The fact that he called in the sniperapoc to help because "you had armor" is probably the most pathetic part. So basically he was like "omgwtf its an equal fight, i thought he was 1/2 dead, now i must call for help because its fair fight!!!111"
Even more pathetic than Maza yesterday in hed refusing to 1v1 my INTERCEPTOR in an ASSAULT FRIGATE, the excuses were hilarious.
LOL equinox sorry you feel that way dude most of you are.. and here is my proof! I dont know most of you i only know the ones i met and the ones i met smack talk like little brat kids like this one here bla bla bla all the time.. you are boring man get over it.
How is it smack when its true? Truth=smack now? Are you going to deny that you said those things in local or that you pathetically expected me to 1v1 you next to your 5 frigs?
ROFL you still dont get it i dont have to prove anything to you or anyone else.. period
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DrunkenOne
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Posted - 2005.06.21 17:01:00 -
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Originally by: Will Fireblade ROFL you still dont get it i dont have to prove anything to you or anyone else.. period so trying to convince me into 1v1 and say that we chickned out is smack for me.i wish there was a way to disable chat in local ffs.
K I think I understand. Truth=Smack. I will remember in the future.
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siim
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Posted - 2005.06.21 17:03:00 -
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Why not send a mail to CEO or something...
Why you needed a whole new thread on this part of forum for it
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Equinox II
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Posted - 2005.06.21 18:17:00 -
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Originally by: Will Fireblade LOL equinox sorry you feel that way dude most of you are.. and here is my proof! I dont know most of you i only know the ones i met and the ones i met smack talk like little brat kids like this one here bla bla bla all the time.. you are boring man get over it.
If all the ASCN pilot's you have ever met are smack talking little brats then you can't really have met many of us. I remember you were in AFJ the other day, did anyone from either side smacktalk? Nope - you just met almost 80 ASCN pilots and all you got was GF!.. :)
It is however true that every alliance and every corp have some smacktalkers/forum flamers, and we have over 1000 members so there are probably a few of them in there. Smacktalkers are sadly also the people you remember easiest..
It's just that I hate generalization, so please don't call over 1000 people smacktalking little brats.. I bet a lot of [5] members feel the same about generalization since they are often accused of beeing smackers/forum*****s when I bet a lot of them arn't :)
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Everay2
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Posted - 2005.06.21 18:27:00 -
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Originally by: Will Fireblade Edited by: Will Fireblade on 21/06/2005 16:57:57
Originally by: DrunkenOne Edited by: DrunkenOne on 21/06/2005 16:51:23
Originally by: Will Fireblade
Originally by: DrunkenOne The fact that he called in the sniperapoc to help because "you had armor" is probably the most pathetic part. So basically he was like "omgwtf its an equal fight, i thought he was 1/2 dead, now i must call for help because its fair fight!!!111"
Even more pathetic than Maza yesterday in hed refusing to 1v1 my INTERCEPTOR in an ASSAULT FRIGATE, the excuses were hilarious.
LOL equinox sorry you feel that way dude most of you are.. and here is my proof! I dont know most of you i only know the ones i met and the ones i met smack talk like little brat kids like this one here bla bla bla all the time.. you are boring man get over it.
How is it smack when its true? Truth=smack now? Are you going to deny that you said those things in local or that you pathetically expected me to 1v1 you next to your 5 frigs?
ROFL you still dont get it i dont have to prove anything to you or anyone else.. period so trying to convince me into 1v1 and say that we chickned out is smack for me.i wish there was a way to disable chat in local ffs.
Will, when you speak, you insult me, ive helped kill you twice now, so im one of the dudes from ASCN that you have met, i dont recall any smack from either side, so if you have proof show me, and if you dont, shutup.
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Soulis
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Posted - 2005.06.21 18:57:00 -
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hahahahaha @ thread starter hahahahaha @ you's for discussing this hahahahaha @ me for even posting
this is a joke, the guy has been offered to be reimbursed yet he's still going on. i think the only reason he posted was to stir up shiiit
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Kartassio
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Posted - 2005.06.21 20:14:00 -
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Somone make a whole war and 100 topiks in forum for the killng of a holler, so don't say craps about this topic. 1 person chalenge in 1v1 unother 1, after he calls hes m8s to hellp. End of story. Maby was planet maby not we don't now that, Thats is dishonourable for sure. Now thats not means that the whole ASCN pepole are lake that, but of course the acts of this individual are part of the corp and the allience and tha make ASCN alliance with some less honourable. It was not dificult to evoid that, it was enough to put some public excuse, but you don't.
To the forum warriors 5. who give a **** for what you say you have the respect of 0. It was error of Wil to take in consideration to make or not a 1v1 with you. We don't even anser on you, infact this is the first and last time END.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.06.21 20:23:00 -
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WTB: Crybabies
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Skelator
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Posted - 2005.06.21 20:31:00 -
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Originally by: DeathGrip Edited by: DeathGrip on 21/06/2005 03:57:01 This ticks me off, and I appologize for this. Others dont feel teh same way, but i do.
Nice to see you have Honor sir
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Lady Varith
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Posted - 2005.06.21 20:58:00 -
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Rofl, cant beleive people think its dishonorable to kill somone in a duel, all fair in love and war
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 21:33:00 -
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Lol, I'm a forum ***** if its big news to me its big news to everyone. And to the people saying I was generalizing an alliance I already aplogized for generalizing and edited out my generalizations, yet I have still not recieved an apology from the guy who decided to gank me in the 1v1, o well. And thanks for the isk offer after shock but I could careless about the isk, just thoguht what he did was lame.
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Uggs386
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Posted - 2005.06.21 21:36:00 -
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And not to mention I was very hesitant on accepting the 1v1's because of this very reason, but they were smacking me non stop in local for refusing to 1v1 so I gave in and said yes. I was trying to set up the taranis for a 1v1, thought i had him all set up and seperated from his m8's at a gate, but then they jumped through right before i engaged so I ran off, which is when the smack started. And pringpang don't even say anything cause you smacked me for running away from your af, lets see inty v af, would you engage if you were in the inty i think not.
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.06.21 21:50:00 -
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Originally by: jamesw Don't fight 1v1's, it only ends in tears. If you want to 1v1 go on sisi for christ's sake. On TQ, anything goes.
Dude even the Botox Bandits honor 1v1's and if you can't do the same then it pretty much shows how low you'll go for a kill.
Even the top evil griefers (Daakkon anyone?) are trustworthy when they give their word, which can be translated into no one getting to their high status as pirates while being an honorless liar.
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Krapz
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Posted - 2005.06.21 21:58:00 -
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Uggs, look. If you want the isk, it's there to take. If you want to flame us for what .02% of our alliance did, then it looks really stupid on your part to keep dragging it out.
Sorry you got jumped while trying to 1 on 1. It probably wasn't the right thing to do, and probably won't happen again. But coming here on Eve-O to resolve it was not the way. You've been offered the money.
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Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.06.21 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: jamesw Don't fight 1v1's, it only ends in tears. If you want to 1v1 go on sisi for christ's sake. On TQ, anything goes.
Dude even the Botox Bandits honor 1v1's and if you can't do the same then it pretty much shows how low you'll go for a kill.
Even the top evil griefers (Daakkon anyone?) are trustworthy when they give their word, which can be translated into no one getting to their high status as pirates while being an honorless liar.
Honor and trust ³ber alles.
Says the "friendly fire" specialist himself.
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BlackDog Rackh'am
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Posted - 2005.06.21 22:28:00 -
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First of all,to Drunkenone.An AF without a web or painter is dead against an inty in 1v1. We decided to go kill bigger stuff so we had 20k scramblers and AB's fitted. In the event one of us was closely orbited by a ceptor,the rest of the gang would pick it off from a distance.But no one was fitted well for killing a ceptor 1vs1,up close and personal.
Personally i don't do 1vs1's because i feel its' outcome is somehow "pre-decided" by modules and skills points of the pilots. You say ceptors are different and require piloting skills,well, i'll have to believe you mate as i don't really fly them too much and have no opinion on them.
Truth is,nobody trusted each other out to keep it clean,that's why a 1vs1 didn't happen.We were serious about us not interfering,but i can understand your position as well.No ceptor pilot warps in on 5 enemy AF's just on the promise that 4 of them won't shoot.On the other hand,we didn't have any dealings ever with the Huzzah pilots who offered to set up the duel,so we thought they might intervene to help you against Will.
In the end it was pretty funny though,as we were jumped by some ASCN pilots.Will and Parity were scrambled,the rest of us made it out safely and we killed a frig and a pod while aligning to warp.Will died,but the funniest thing is that Parity's retribution tanked well enough to jump back in HED(i think),only to be wasted by a POS in a moon.
As to the original topic (hmmm,i tend to hijack a lot lately),well,it looks like a misunderstanding of sorts,but the ASCN guy called in reinforcements nonetheless(if im wrong by all means correct me,i'm in a hurry and not reading everything very carefully).It's just that instead of an AF a sniper apoc came.
Oh,and Will,chill out man,some smack is bound to come and go sooner or later.I'm more or less against smack,but now that everyone's doing it it's not something that important.
See you all in space,have fun and get good fights.
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Twirrim Notme
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Posted - 2005.06.21 22:40:00 -
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Originally by: Will Fireblade ASCN are little brats smack talking kids what did you expect uggs..
You know.. its kinda funny, but over the past week we've had a few guys camping our systems. Nothing fancy, just a few ravens a few snipathrons and the like. Usual stuff, they log in, see if there are any easy targets in local, try to take them out, safespot and log off.
Some ASCN members have been chatting, joking with these safespotters, and we've repeatedly got the comments back along the lines of "you know, its kind of nice being in ASCN space. You haven't got any of the smacktalk going on in local that you get up in the north"
If you honestly think ASCN smacktalks, I feel sorry for you for not realising the truth. Most ASCN members rely on actions not words. We're secure in our manhood and feel no need to constantly wave our e-peen's around
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DarthSaber
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Posted - 2005.06.21 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: DarthSaber on 21/06/2005 22:42:10 ffs lighten up y'all. its a GAME!
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Amrotis
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Posted - 2005.06.21 23:19:00 -
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Tbh, it doesent matter at all why he was there or what he was doing, if you agree to a 1v1, honour it imo. Irrelevent as to whether you started at a slight disadvantage or whatever, fight it out 1v1. At worst, warp off. Don't gank a player if they agreed to a 1v1. It's incredably lame, and screws over a corps reputation. I'd rather lose an inty than have someone kill my opponent in a fair fight.
Perhaps worthy of a forum topic, perhaps not. No point in the issue being blown hopelessy out of proportion though.
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pringprang
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Posted - 2005.06.21 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: pringprang on 21/06/2005 23:38:31
Originally by: Uggs386 And pringpang don't even say anything cause you smacked me for running away from your af, lets see inty v af, would you engage if you were in the inty i think not.
I never smack talked you for that. I wouldn't expect an inty to engage an assualt frig. I had been chasing you trying to get ahead of you so I would have time to lock you when you jumped in on me.
Any smack I gave you was before you agreed to fight because you were in an inty, by yourself, picking on haulers and tech 1 frigs. To me, as an alliance member who defends the space he lives in, that is pretty cowardly no matter who does it. I gave you some grief over refusing to fight a Taranis in a 1v1 and I apologize. it wasn't really called for but you should be able to recognize how frustrating it is to have inty pilots logged off in your space since they can never be caught if they don't want to be. An inty is too damn fast to fight on anyone's terms except the pilot's so I was a bit miffed that you wouldn't fight a 1v1 with another inty. There's nothing anybody can do about it if the inty pilot does not want to fight (unless you get lucky with smartbombs )
We offered Uggs the chance to gang Rob and go to a safespot but he refused and said figh tat the gate. I voluntarily promised to stay at 0 m/s on the gate as the scout for our mates in the next systema dn promised Ugss that if he saw my speed go up from 0.0 he could disengage and warp off. The apoc was aligned though, I didn't notice and apparently you didnt either. I would have stopped him if I had because at that point ALL of us still considered it a fair fight.
Rob didn't call us in because he was afraid of losing the fight. He called us in because he felt cheated and we sure as hell were not letting Uggs get through the gates to keep shooting haulers. Rob didn't call for help because he felt like he needed it in a 1v1, he called us because the only reason we were out there was to defend our space. It's ****ty and regretable. Apologies all around but there were no dishonourable intentions. I've fought several 1v1s before and this is the first time it didn't work out the way it should have.
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Lo3d3R
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Posted - 2005.06.22 00:23:00 -
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you do know that each and everyone of you in this thread look like old ladies fighting dont you
/me *hides*
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Marichek
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Posted - 2005.06.22 00:31:00 -
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50 million isk to the pilot who finds the last ridiculously stupid post made by euphoria released. It was only a few months ago, and can't remember what the topic was, but I remember shooting beer out my nostrils when I read it.
DannyThe Great > i have an urge to kill anyone who isnt in my corp and has a smaller ship. |
Masta Killa
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Posted - 2005.06.22 02:33:00 -
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Edited by: Masta Killa on 22/06/2005 02:35:02
Originally by: Joshua Calvert
Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: jamesw Don't fight 1v1's, it only ends in tears. If you want to 1v1 go on sisi for christ's sake. On TQ, anything goes.
Dude even the Botox Bandits honor 1v1's and if you can't do the same then it pretty much shows how low you'll go for a kill.
Even the top evil griefers (Daakkon anyone?) are trustworthy when they give their word, which can be translated into no one getting to their high status as pirates while being an honorless liar.
Honor and trust ³ber alles.
Says the "friendly fire" specialist himself.
Just be thankful that I was deviously tricked into napping you by the evil and all powerful FC Raptor.
Try not to remind me of your existance too often and the nap with your sorry ass (not that you ever step out of your npc system) may hold.
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Gibri
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Posted - 2005.06.22 02:36:00 -
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Jµja Krakkar
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Lunas Feelgood
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Posted - 2005.06.22 06:15:00 -
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plz stop this bloddy thread lol its silly.. i did a 1v1 against deathgrip From ASCN and it was fun and fair
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Will Fireblade
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Posted - 2005.06.22 12:35:00 -
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Edited by: Will Fireblade on 22/06/2005 12:36:24 Yeah i have to agree with Lunas silly thread... OK I want a 1v1 anyone who wants to fight me ill be waiting at KARI gate in Y-MPWL buhahahaahahah
P.S. Just make sure you bring an expensive ship
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Eris Discordia
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Posted - 2005.06.22 14:40:00 -
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Originally by: Joshua Calvert WTB: Crybabies
Let's make them
I'll lock every thread you start and then send you to a gallente system
I ♥ my pink dreadnought of pwnage Mail [email protected] if you have any questions. |
Joshua Calvert
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Posted - 2005.06.22 20:04:00 -
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Originally by: Eris Discordia
Originally by: Joshua Calvert WTB: Crybabies
Let's make them
I'll lock every thread you start and then send you to a gallente system
That would make me cry with joy. Oh those Gallente women!
LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY! |
Kyle Caldrel
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Posted - 2005.06.22 21:11:00 -
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Nice siggy eris.
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