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SengH
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Posted - 2005.06.21 06:20:00 -
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Ok im looking to put together a dual/tri LCD setup and span a single account across all 3 monitors. I know nvidia can do a span function, done it before with a ti 4200 and 2 CRTs. However I am highly preferrential towards ati as i have had nothing but good experiences with them.
Currently the planned specs for this build at the end of the summer is:
AMD X2 4400+
3 Gb DDR 400
ATI Crossfire / NF4 SLI board
Creative X-fi
2x80GB PATA Seagates RAID0 ( being transferred from my current build)
2x200GB SATA II NCQ drives as primary array RAID0.(considering Raptors but id prefer HD space)
2x350GB SATA II NCQ drives as secondary array RAID0.
Planned usage is EVE + FRAPS or for ultramultitasking. I'm prolly gonna get a registered version of ultramon too. A tri monitor display would be optimal as the ship would be cut across the bezels with a dual monitor, but at the moment i am only aware of the parhelia that can do that. I'm also aware of the reliability issues of RAID but im prepared to deal with that. I've been running a raid arrays for 4 years and havent had one fail on me yet. As to why i need so much space, extracting LARGE rars archives is pretty HD intensive and takes enuff time on my current RAID array.
My Current build
Sempron 3100+
MSI K8N Neo Plat NF3 754 board
1.5 Gb DDR 400
2x 80 GB Seagates
ATI 9700 Pro
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akakjs
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Posted - 2005.06.21 09:51:00 -
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I use dual monitors running from an nvidia FX5900xt. Personally I run eve in a window slightly smaller than the combined resolution of the monitors. This lets me run it slightly off centre, avoiding having the bezel right on the ship & readouts. I'm not sure of any gfx combination that allows tri monitor setups beyond the parhelia's. RAID isn't that unrealible, just make sure you have a good controler, and good quality hard-drives and you'll be fine.
Other than that, both your current system and your planned specs would handle dual monitors with ease.
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Maggot
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Posted - 2005.06.23 06:36:00 -
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I thought that SLI was not so good for running across multiple monitors. Is this rumour not true?
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akakjs
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Posted - 2005.06.23 09:22:00 -
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 Originally by: Maggot
I thought that SLI was not so good for running across multiple monitors. Is this rumour not true?
as I understand it for SLI you can only use the monitor connectors on the primary graphics card. As for performance, I guess that depends on the drivers more than anything else.
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.06.23 14:15:00 -
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My only concern for using SLI/Crossfire is that a single card might not have enuff horsepower to drive EVE across 3x 2005 FPWs or 2x2405 FPWs(still considering that). Also from the recent benchies at anandtech though it seems eve is heavily CPU bound.
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Annatar
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Posted - 2005.06.25 18:03:00 -
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Whow! What a nice Setup, even the current would please me more then very well..
But i have little Question, wich i hope you could answer me.
I know that some Graphiccards have 2 Outputs, 1 for a Analog CRT and the Other for digital Flatscreens. And i know speacial Cards and adapters so thats Possible to run 2 CRT, or two Flatsscreens instead of a Mixed setup.
BUT how should it be able to connect three monitors(of any kind)?
I relly getting confused about that. Where are exactly the Cable should get the Connection to the Graphiccard ?
Maybe one of you could explain that in a few short sentences.
Thanks a lot
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.06.26 09:07:00 -
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alot of more modern videocards are comming out with Dual DVI links. Also at the high end, most LCDs support both DVI and VGA inputs. The high end 2405FP that I was looking at supports HDTV inputs(C/Yp/Yb) too! With the newer boards that have PCI Express, it is possible to have multiple high end video cards in the same system. Giving you a total of 4 DVI ports.
However the question I am trying to clarify is whether hardware accelleration is supported across all these monitors. I know you can accelerate 2 monitors with nvidia, but I would like clarification about ATI and crossfire. I have read places where it says it is possible to have up to 5 monitors with ATI and crossfire, however I'd like to question whether hardware acceleration(to play eve) is available across all these monitors. Giving an effective resolution of 4800x1200. That will easily use up all the vram available in the cards.
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Reptar
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Posted - 2005.06.28 22:44:00 -
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The 6800 Range from MSI comes with Dual DVI, If you dont have DVI, just get a dongle to convert it, they cost about ú1 or 2. Cheap as chips
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.06.29 13:18:00 -
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the thing is at that res with AA and AF your running out of video memory fast... thats my main concern... I'd also like to avoid a total upgrade if possible atm. Considering waiting for AMD to make the transition to socket M2 before I go dual core.
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Vernius
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Posted - 2005.07.06 05:05:00 -
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Does anyone here know how to get rid of the "walleye/fisheye" effect when running dual monitors in EVE? I run at 3200x1200 res and it looks perfect except when I start to zoom out/in and rotate the camera, I get that really trippy walleye effect.
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twoofmany
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:48:00 -
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I run duel 6800 GeFoce 4 Ultra with SLI, if you want to use multiple monitors you cant enable SLI. I tried and it wouldnt let me.
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Tsabrock
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Posted - 2005.07.10 11:30:00 -
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Here's some input of my own for your reference, as I've run dual-monitor since Eve was in beta
The simplist way to run Eve in dual-monitor is to run it as one big window, but the game will get broken up as it overlaps one monitor or the other. Also, many of the ATI and NVidia Graphic drives have performace issues rendering an application to more than one monitor at a time.
What I usually do is run EVE on one monitor at a windows 1280x960, then on the other monitor I run an Excel spreadsheet with various data and notes for the game (and I've accumulated lots of data over the last two years).
Back a few months ago I did try to run two instances of EVE once at once (my account and my brother's). I used the advanced graphic options to set one instance to render on the Primary adaptor, and the other instance of the game to run on the Secondary adaptor. They did run at an acceptable rate of roughly 20-30 FPS, depending on what was going on. It proves that the video cards are capable of doing it, it's just that the drivers have issues.
To compare, I'm using the following hardware. It's getting a little old (2.5 years), but it still serves me well and thus I've not bothered to upgrade it.
AMD 2700+ Athlon w/ASUS NForce 2 Motherboard (Set to "aggressive" settings)*
1 Gig of DDR333 Corsair Extra Low Latency Memory (2225)
ATI 9800 Pro-128 Meg card.
Creative Audidgy
*"Aggressive" settings, for those of you not familiar with ASUS boards, slightly overclock the board. I forget by how much, but it's not much.
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Alicifer
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Posted - 2005.07.14 13:40:00 -
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there is special matrox grpahics cards that are built for up to 4x monitors i think tho i have no idea on how good they are
i think theres a few on www.overclockers.co.uk
and if www.go-i.com ever gets going again HEY HAVE A HUUUUUUGE widescreen of like 6 lcd monitors ... ok its like 3grand (ú) but if they can do it u can too
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.07.18 20:42:00 -
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to update, I want to run 1 instance of eve across 2-3 monitors, not sure if that is possible and I kinda wanna find out before i plop down 1.5 grand on a dual 2405 setup heh
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Rain Damarr
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Posted - 2005.07.21 11:42:00 -
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same here. does anyone know if CCP is going to implement a dual-vdu feature in a way where one display could be configured to show space and a second one to show, well, sort of eve-desktop, where one could put all the windows, chats, scanners, etc.?
i don't care that much for wide-screen implementation - i just wish i could get rid of all the clutter.
thanks
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Tar om
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Posted - 2005.08.15 11:20:00 -
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Originally by: Rain Damarr
same here. does anyone know if CCP is going to implement a dual-vdu feature in a way where one display could be configured to show space and a second one to show, well, sort of eve-desktop, where one could put all the windows, chats, scanners, etc.?
i don't care that much for wide-screen implementation - i just wish i could get rid of all the clutter.
thanks
Thats the one I'd vote for too.
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Mirudan
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Posted - 2005.08.18 23:46:00 -
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http://www.apple.com/displays/
25x16 The only way to play EVE:) On 7800GTX SLI of course;)
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SengH
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Posted - 2005.08.19 17:12:00 -
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Thats a dual link DVI monitor. You cant run it on even a 7800 SLI. The only cards with dual link DVI atm are the professional firegl, quadro, wildcat and matrox cards. So yeah getting eve for it would be kinda pointless unless you have $$$ to spend.
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Sealance
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Posted - 2005.08.25 20:22:00 -
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here's a linky of my triple screen setup :)
http://piggelin.mine.nu/bildarkiv/index.php?dir=%2Fcomputers&page=&prev=desk2005.jpg
I can't however use all three monitors in eve since I use a gf2mx pci for the tirtiary monitor. I wouldn't mind a Parhelia but the performance isnt that grand.
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Maggot
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Posted - 2005.09.08 11:01:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
Thats a dual link DVI monitor. You cant run it on even a 7800 SLI. The only cards with dual link DVI atm are the professional firegl, quadro, wildcat and matrox cards. So yeah getting eve for it would be kinda pointless unless you have $$$ to spend.
There are in fact a few cards which can run the 30 inch beast on a PC. See this thread:
Apple Discussion Boards
I had been waiting a long time to buy the 30inch but ended up going for the 23inch before all these other cards became available.
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Maggot
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Posted - 2005.09.21 12:01:00 -
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and this looks like good news also, but makes no difference for Eve I guess....
All Rx5xx cards have two dual link transmitters
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SnowJack
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Posted - 2005.10.03 21:01:00 -
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Originally by: SengH
Thats a dual link DVI monitor. You cant run it on even a 7800 SLI. The only cards with dual link DVI atm are the professional firegl, quadro, wildcat and matrox cards.
There are a few 6800 Ultra cards on the market that are dual-link DVI, they're just hard to find. My office mate bought one of Apple's 30" monitors, and bought and returned several video cards finding this out (yes, they exist!). He's since upgraded to a 7800 GTX (not even SLI), which runs great!
But back to the topic at hand...dual monitors will run on most decent video cards these days. I run two displays on my system with no problems, but it helps that they're the same size. Spreading the display across the two screens causes one big issue, though - your ship gets split down the middle, which makes it hard to play. Sure would be nice if CCP gave us multi-mon people some luvin!
Going to a three display setup could be a great solution, but now you need two (good) video cards (or a Perihelia, which I would have recommended a year or two ago, but they just haven't kept up performance-wise). You'll need to buy a SLI-capable mobo just to get two high speed slots (PCI-E x16) (assuming you're going PCI-E) to be able to run all three monitors at a good framerate. I'm trying to talk myself into trying this out - I now have a SLI mobo, so I just need to pick up another 7800GT...maybe for Xmas? We'll see. For now, though, I don't have any hard evidence for you.
Good luck!
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