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Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 364	Posted - 2011.10.09 05:47:00 - [1] - Quote Alidar wrote: Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP? I don't know. Why do non-PvPers act like terrorists to others who like PvP? Quote: it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp? It's a PvP game. What's unfair, childish, rude and in reality criminally insane is that some people want to reap all the benefits and pay none of the costs and then have the audacity to bawl their guts out when others insist that they play by the rules. Not to mention wanting the power to influence others without being influenced themselves. What you're asking for is essentially this: since there are chickens and produce in CS_Italy, you think it's unfair that other CS players keep shooting you in the face, when all you want to do is tend your farm. The insanity here is not on the part of the face-shooters, but on the person who chose to play CS instead of Harvest Moon. Quote: atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it Other games are not EVE, and do not have the interconnected nature of EVE, so they can do that. EVE cannot. But sure, let's explore that idea. Here's what will happen when you turn "PvP Off": You can no longer use S&I slots. You are no longer allowed to access or use POSes. You are no longer allowed to rent or use corp offices. You are no longer allowed to access the market or contracts. You are no longer allowed to launch probes. You are no longer allowed to use the on-board scanner. You are no longer allowed to use any kind of untargeted offensive module. The only things that show up in your overview/bracket list are stations, jump gates, and NPC ships and warp gates that spawn as part of your mission. All other items (player ships, wrecks, loot canisters, asteroids etc etc etc) become un-interactable. GÇªand that's just off the top of my head GÇö there are plenty more restrictions that need to put into place. Such as (roughly and at least) a six-week switch-over timer so you can't flip-flop between the two and terrorise the PvPers. If you don't want to PvP, then fine GÇö you're not allowed to PvP in any of the ways the above tools and functionalities let you do. Now, do you really think that it would be a fun game to play if you couldn't do any of the above? Quote: oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours It's your choice not to engage in the core activity of the game, so yes. If you don't want to twiddle your thumbs, you can choose that as well. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 364	Posted - 2011.10.09 05:59:00 - [2] - Quote Alidar wrote: your logic is flawed there you assume everyone wants all of that No, my logic is unassailable because I know that all of that is PvP GÇö if you don't want to PvP, you are not allowed to do any of the things that would terrorise the poor PvPers. Quote: also you assume that other pvpers won't have anyone to kill if people can turn it of when actually you could just go after eachother and leave alone those who don't like violence No, I do not assume that. It does not even factor into the equation. Straw man. Quote: you're all terrorists plain and simple No, we are just people playing the actual game. You are terrorising us by ruining that game. Quote: and no better that Osama in my book, an look where that got him, you all deserve his fate You are a ******* loon. Reported. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 364	Posted - 2011.10.09 06:16:00 - [3] - Quote Alidar wrote: darlin' I beta tested this cesspool No you didn't. Quote: i helped shape this game into what it currently looks and feels like Ok, so you made it a full-PvP game and now you're mad that it turned out the way you wanted. You're making a whooooole lot of sense here. Loon. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 364	Posted - 2011.10.09 06:22:00 - [4] - Quote Alidar wrote: oh and btw since i posted this thread i have gotten over 3000 DoS attacks to my router No you didn't. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 364	Posted - 2011.10.09 06:25:00 - [5] - Quote Alidar wrote: actually yes i did and i didn't mean that i know exactly who yet, but i will No you didn't. And no you won't. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 364	Posted - 2011.10.09 06:30:00 - [6] - Quote Alidar wrote: it is Relevant, because it means someone or multiple someones have taken this to a personal level beyond it's intention to where they have commited a true crime in the real world No, it's not multiple someones GÇö just you. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 364	Posted - 2011.10.09 06:34:00 - [7] - Quote Alidar wrote: um.. i'm sorry but it would be as pointless as your existence for me to use a Denial of service attack on mysel Well you see, here's the thing: they never happened. That's just your voices telling you things. Ask them to remind you to take your meds. No, I'm talking about the libel and near-death threats you've posted. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 364	Posted - 2011.10.09 07:03:00 - [8] - Quote Alidar wrote: actually all i'm stating is that pvpers act like paranoid dillusional psychotics GÇªsays the guy who's being persecuted by people who do not know who he is; the guy who cannot distinguish between game and reality; the guy who wants people dead for having fun and playing according to the rules; the guy who quite clearly invents his own reality without even bothering to base it on well-known facts. Yeah, no. The problem here isn't that others are acting like paranoid delusional psychotics GÇö it's that they don't act like you, which actually makes them rather normal compared to your paranoid and psychotic delusions. Also, dammit, Malc, stop saying everything first! GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 367	Posted - 2011.10.09 08:39:00 - [9] - Quote Alidar wrote: do you know nothing about economics, if there is too much of something and not enough demand for it, prices go down so that more people wil buy them Ok, so you don't understand economics either. People will only buy them if there is a demand for it, and increasing supply does not increase demand. What you're asking for is the complete removal of demand, which does indeed collapse the economy. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote: How many years is it going to take before people realize that this is a PVP game. More than eight apparently, since the OP fantasises about having been in the betaGÇª The real mystery is how long ago he bought that character and how he hasn't been able to figure out how the game economy works since then. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 367	Posted - 2011.10.09 08:49:00 - [10] - Quote Alidar wrote: when they specifically indicate it on the most recent boxes So, some time around 2002 then. And then repeated with every expansion since. Good to know. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 367	Posted - 2011.10.09 08:54:00 - [11] - Quote Alidar wrote: I said not enough demand , not no demand Actually, you said no demand GÇö the fact that you don't understand how you did this illustrates perfectly that you do not understand economics or the game. Quote: besides if prices get too high economies collapse because those that need the products can not afford them If prices get too high, further removing demand is not the solutionGÇª GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 367	Posted - 2011.10.09 09:01:00 - [12] - Quote Alidar wrote: re read it, it says "Not Enough" Yes, I re-read it. It doesn't matter what you say GÇö what you're suggesting is GÇ£no demandGÇ¥. Again, your being too new to the game to understand this does not change this fact. Btw, have you heard of the edit buttonGÇª? Sorry, forgot the translator again: you push GÇ£edit buttonGÇ¥, you get bacon! All happy! GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 367	Posted - 2011.10.09 09:29:00 - [13] - Quote Vaako Horizon wrote: competitive? I am not sure I wanna call it that, mostly because I havent seen any actuall money making tournaments. Log in. Open the market interface. There is is. Everything is. If you mine the asteroid, you get the ore instead of me. Competitive. If you sell your stuff, you get the money from the sale instead of me. Competitive. If you find the complex and open the can, you get the loot instead of me. Competitive. Repeat for everything you could conceivable do in EVE. Quote: invulnerability... if you, like me, dont like pvp you avoid it like the plague GÇªwhich means you're not thinking in terms of PvP and how it will be used. If I'm immune, then I can take all your stuff and there is nothing you can do to stop me. If I'm immune, I can spy your entire alliance and give a live-feed of your fleet movement, and you can't get rid of me. If I'm immune, I can deliver every last item in Jita to your enemies, and not only will they be well supplied with everything imaginable, but you will have nothing, and you cannot keep your enemies from having it all. Immunity, even in the most limited capacity, inherently does not work in a competitive PvP environment. Go back to page three and look at the list I made there over things that simply must not be allowed to anyone that is GÇ£PvP immuneGÇ¥ and consider how much of what you're doing every second you're logged in (hell, even when you're not logged in) is done in direct competition with other players GÇö PvP. The Mittani wrote: i killed this guy. whoops! the ~dread pirate iraf~ sends his regards, etc etc. Good job. Keep at it. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 367	Posted - 2011.10.09 09:33:00 - [14] - Quote The Mittani wrote: did you seriously make an eight page whine thread because i ganked your mackinaw because god damn son, god damn Of course he did GÇö you are Osama, after all. GÇªor some such. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 367	Posted - 2011.10.09 09:52:00 - [15] - Quote The Mittani wrote: Quote: Re: Re: Cyber Bullying is a Crime From: Aquiel Sakhti Sent: 2011.10.08 20:39 To: Iraf Thaiberd, I.P. Address and home address and name acquired, have a nice final day! Re: Cyber Bullying is a Crime From: Iraf Thaiberd Sent: 2011.10.08 19:20 To: Aquiel Sakhti, oh no! Cyber Bullying is a Crime From: Aquiel Sakhti Sent: 2011.10.08 07:39 To: Iraf Thaiberd, Cyber Bullying is a Crime, continue harrassing non-gallente or anyone in gallente space and i will hunt you down in real life and wipe the existence of your lineage off the map GÇªmade even more hilarious by the fact that the poor alt in question actually was the one who broke the rules and (conceivably, but you're the lawyer here) broke a real-world law or two. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 369	Posted - 2011.10.09 09:57:00 - [16] - Quote Basileus Volkan wrote: Man, this thread is too good to be true. Which one of you made an alt for this, fess up! You're quite right. This must be one of your plots to raise awareness of puppiesGÇª or some other important issue. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 373	Posted - 2011.10.09 11:54:00 - [17] - Quote Yoink. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 373	Posted - 2011.10.09 12:06:00 - [18] - Quote Vaako Horizon wrote: If you look back to my first line there and actually read it... GÇªit doesn't mention anything about real life. That aside, real life rewards is not a prerequisite to make the game competitive. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 390	Posted - 2011.10.09 16:36:00 - [19] - Quote Khanh'rhh wrote: Still, when they try to camp your WH in a 400mil stealth bomber they're pretty welcome to have around. What theGÇª how theGÇª whyGÇª UGH! Well, that clears things up immensely, to be honest. Hestia Mar wrote: Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks. GÇªapart from it being 100 percent true, that is. When you ~~undock~~ log in, you do so into a full-PvP environment and agree to pretty much anything anyone else might do to you. You are given all the tools you need to prevent this from happening and from there on, it's your choice how things play out. Quote: Look at real life No, let's not. Instead, look at these oven mitts shaped and textured like a tiny piggy with its omgzcute snout and tailGÇª Why? Because those mitts are roughly 80 percent more relevant to what happens in-game than real life. Quote: when you leave your house, do you 'consent' to being mugged? Actually you do, due to the tiny detail you left out: that you willingly moved to Mugger's Lane, Robbersville, in the northern part of WeNickYourStuffistan GÇö a street, city and nation where theGÇª ehmGÇª let's call it GÇ£unplanned redistribution of propertyGÇ£ is the national sport, universal pass-time and, not the least, the accepted way to say GÇ£good morningGÇ¥ to your next-door neighbour (in fact, your neighbour would consider you outright rude and tell on you to the local McCarthy-wannabe if you ever accidentally returned that lawn-mower you GÇ£borrowedGÇ¥ five summers ago). Quote: I have to ask, where are the actual empire forces in all of this As little involved as they can get away with is where they are, for we are capsuleers GÇö immortal demigods that do not answer to their impotent courts and legal systems (and, with the wealth of plants at our personal disposal, we'd just buy the court and everyone in it if they ever tried to drag us in there) So mighty are we that they had to hand over the handling of us to a special cross-empire entity that extensively uses cheats and backdoors to make us stop tearing up the neighbourhood. But again, there is that wealth of planets bit, and this institution is just as easily corrupted as any other and will happily avert their eyes for a nominal fee. Sure, the empires themselves might give some token resistance if you we offend them and stray into their space, but that's just for show and to placate the plebs GÇö their actual tactics show that they just prefer it if we simply sod off and bother someone else. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 390	Posted - 2011.10.09 16:58:00 - [20] - Quote Jared Reidel wrote: Wow the OP is such a victim - in all senses of the word. Now now. Be nice. Victims have suffered enough already without being compared to the OP. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á

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