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Jonah Gravenstein
Overly Complex Security Innovations
4954
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Posted - 2013.01.14 00:58:00 -
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Jame Jarl Retief wrote:Mara Pahrdi wrote:As long as CCP doesn't take the same road Blizzard did, I'll be fine. Comments like these make me smile every time. Indeed, why should a company that is in business to make money follow the mistakes of another company that for the past 9+ years has had the largest paid MMO in history of gaming, beating the runner-ups by a factor of roughly 10x. Let's steer away from Blizzard failure and continue with the 10 year legacy of excellence in not breaking through the 500k sub barrier.  I'm not saying we need "WoW in Space", but some folks need to be a little less bipolar about this. There's a very large middle ground between the two that could be insanely profitable.
There is no middle ground, CCP & Blizzard are catering for 2 entirely different audiences.
WoW caters to what the majority expect from an MMO, casual gameplay and no long term consequences, in short it is quite a shallow game, but it appeals to many gamers because it is possible to play it casually with next to no risk.
Eve caters for those who like a game where there are consequences, and where long term planning lets you influence what those consequences are. It appeals to those gamers that like to really get into a game, use their imagination to provide their own content and are willing to take risks to win.
Always bet on stupid, CCP can't patch stupid. The measure of success in Eve is not monetary worth, it's how effectively you can bend others to your will. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2166
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Posted - 2013.01.14 07:29:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:EVE has done nothing but grow for 10 years.
WoW lost 2 million subs last year.
One might note that WoW had 2 million to loose. We're still < 1/2 million XD
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Etherealclams
288
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Posted - 2013.01.14 07:34:00 -
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ACE McFACE wrote:MOAR BALANCING
I'm up for that. After they balance everything, take the old systems and make them good( Corp, Sov, PoS ) then they can introduce new things and repeat the whole process again in a few years! http://aclamthatrants.blogspot.com/ Read up on my adventures. |

psycho freak
Snuff Box
236
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Posted - 2013.01.14 10:10:00 -
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Op
eve is going hello kitty online all fuzzy and warm ccp listen to much to whineing carbares my spelling sux brb find phone number for someone who gives a fu*k
nop cant find it |

Debora Tsung
The Investment Bankers Guild
34
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Posted - 2013.01.14 10:43:00 -
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psycho freak wrote:Op
eve is going hello kitty online all fuzzy and warm ccp listen to much to whineing carbares
I want a bright pink raven covered in a nice and plushy long fur, it should shoot lovely red little hearts and rainbows on all the big bad grimdark meanies out there! There's nothing a million chinese guys can't do cheaper. |

Seven Koskanaiken
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
117
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Posted - 2013.01.14 11:01:00 -
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psycho freak wrote:Op
eve is going hello kitty online all fuzzy and warm ccp listen to much to whineing carbares
personally i'm only playing eve until Downton Abbey Online is released. |

Doddy
Dark-Rising
830
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Posted - 2013.01.14 12:02:00 -
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Oxandrolone wrote:
Venture nerf (hard to scan, fast aligning, +2 warp strength frigates that suck gas better than BC's and have a larger hold + faster to train)
Oh noes, a frigate designed to mine gas is better at it than a battlecruiser designed to shoot stuff.
Seriously.
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Doddy
Dark-Rising
830
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Posted - 2013.01.14 12:06:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Up the ziggurat lickety split So, it didn't mean anything to you, then? You know, when we made love on the snooker table behind the bins.
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Karrl Tian
Exiled Assassins
155
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Posted - 2013.01.14 14:56:00 -
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Highsec will be the designated isk-farming zone while low/null will be EVE's arena.
Also, DUST will be ported to PC and sov change will require planetary district control when the console experiment flops and the rent is due. 
Doddy wrote:Oxandrolone wrote:
Venture nerf (hard to scan, fast aligning, +2 warp strength frigates that suck gas better than BC's and have a larger hold + faster to train)
Oh noes, a frigate designed to mine gas is better at it than a battlecruiser designed to shoot stuff. Seriously.
I was perfectly happy with my mining BS, damn it! |

Ravnik
Choke-Hold
4373
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Posted - 2013.01.14 15:42:00 -
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Debora Tsung wrote:psycho freak wrote:Op
eve is going hello kitty online all fuzzy and warm ccp listen to much to whineing carbares I want a bright pink raven covered in a nice and plushy long fur, it should shoot lovely red little hearts and rainbows on all the big bad grimdark meanies out there!
Despite the fact your ship would stand out like a sore thumb, it would be very hard indeed to call you primary! I would have to save your furry hull till last...and even then i might just let you go 
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannh+ñuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.....Time to die. |

Giro Kado
Earths Naval Space Command The Mandalorians
0
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Posted - 2013.01.14 16:49:00 -
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Doddy wrote:baltec1 wrote:Up the ziggurat lickety split So, it didn't mean anything to you, then? You know, when we made love on the snooker table behind the bins.
I'm having a woman's period |

Murk Paradox
Dvice Shipyards No Value
217
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Posted - 2013.01.14 17:13:00 -
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Remiel Pollard wrote:Gogela wrote:Pitrolo Orti wrote:EvE is dying...Dust bunnies will steal our spaceships soon
Watch out! I have a dust bunny. He can stand facing an opponent for 20 minutes firing an AR and not hit ****. DUST bunnies aren't going to be taking any of Gogela's spaceships in the foreseeable future. Promise. Edit: I'm killing in Halo 4 at about 5:1 atm... in dust? If I break even it's a firickin' miracle. It takes some serious getting used to. I'm definitely gonna have to dig up a new keyboard and mouse to play it. The problem is (which I don't think is a problem at all) a lot of console FPS games have really heavy aim assist because controllers are ****. DUST doesn't appear to have any aim assist at all, and I think it's a good thing, it means you have to aim and can't just get kills by spamming an AR or DMR or just pulling the trigger on a rocket launcher (except I think the HMG and Mass Drivers make them all moot points in the end....).
Aim assist is horrible, every fps I've played I always turn it off. Lagshooting is way easier to manage without aim assist hurting that process. "I say tomato, you say tomaCCP BAN ALL TOMATOES THEY ARE HARASSING ME I WANT TOMATO FREE HIGHSEC."-á -TheGunslinger42 Proud enforcer of the Code, see [url]http://www.minerbumping.com[/url] for details. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2166
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Posted - 2013.01.14 21:39:00 -
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Murk Paradox wrote:Remiel Pollard wrote:Gogela wrote:Pitrolo Orti wrote:EvE is dying...Dust bunnies will steal our spaceships soon
Watch out! I have a dust bunny. He can stand facing an opponent for 20 minutes firing an AR and not hit ****. DUST bunnies aren't going to be taking any of Gogela's spaceships in the foreseeable future. Promise. Edit: I'm killing in Halo 4 at about 5:1 atm... in dust? If I break even it's a firickin' miracle. It takes some serious getting used to. I'm definitely gonna have to dig up a new keyboard and mouse to play it. The problem is (which I don't think is a problem at all) a lot of console FPS games have really heavy aim assist because controllers are ****. DUST doesn't appear to have any aim assist at all, and I think it's a good thing, it means you have to aim and can't just get kills by spamming an AR or DMR or just pulling the trigger on a rocket launcher (except I think the HMG and Mass Drivers make them all moot points in the end....). Aim assist is horrible, every fps I've played I always turn it off. Lagshooting is way easier to manage without aim assist hurting that process. Yah, aim assist is terrible in any game and if you are playing people it should always be off. That's a given. Aim assist is for 5 year olds killing NPCs in the campaign mode, or for people who have never played a FPS before. The reason I don't hit anything with an AR in DUST is known to me... it's deliberate on the part of CCP and it makes the game suck when you start playing it. I'd post a rant with the explicit details but they still, for some stupid reason, have an NDA covering it. Next week when it's in open Beta I'll start bitching. Suffice it to say, the aim problems in DUST with hitting targets are not due to auto-aim or inability to aim, but rather by design.
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Presidential Spokesman DeGaulle
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:33:00 -
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still the wrong way each time to send in a petition. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2166
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Posted - 2013.01.15 00:57:00 -
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Presidential Spokesman DeGaulle wrote:still the wrong way each time to send in a petition. If you are referring to what I said, there's nothing to petition. I can't / won't elaborate here because of the NDA, but there's a reason it's the way it is. Unfortunately it makes the player control seem worse than it actually is. Read this ( https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=470821 ) if you can and are interested.
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Daniel Whateley
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Posted - 2013.01.16 12:41:00 -
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EvE isn't going anywhere, theres usually 30k players online, it actually used to be only 3k players when it first released, and the ships were horrid, there wasn't any "double click" navigation in space either, there was only orbit, the rats were terribly hard, ships were incorrectly balanced, it takes time to even everything out in a game, that's why the changes are taking place, not because of players saying so, just cause ccp wants the game to be fair for everyone, and wants more players to play, so they're making it easier for new players to play the game and take more responsibilty in their ships, just like the ibis, i was pvping one day with that thing, and i instajammed a zealot and drake with a minmatar jammer.. actually they were perma jammed, i was loling at it, our 3 thrashers tore them apart after that, not saying newbies should take ibis's out, cause even griffins got a buff now to make them more fun rather than just a target. |

Seleia O'Sinnor
Drop of Honey
302
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Posted - 2013.01.16 12:57:00 -
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I heard that CCP is developing a Nintendo Wii client to control fancy space vampire clans roaming the stations and sucking the life out of market bot characters. It's just happening behind that door. Listen closely. New inventory: Getting better since version 1.2, but what about back and forward buttons? |

Greg Arosa
0
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Posted - 2013.01.16 13:15:00 -
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Gogela wrote:baltec1 wrote:EVE has done nothing but grow for 10 years.
WoW lost 2 million subs last year.
One might note that WoW had 2 million to loose. We're still < 1/2 million XD
Is that bad? You need more players in EVE or something? Is CCP experiencing financial problems? I dont see why having 500k players instead of 10mil is somehow bad. |

Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
2167
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Posted - 2013.01.16 16:14:00 -
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Greg Arosa wrote:Gogela wrote:baltec1 wrote:EVE has done nothing but grow for 10 years.
WoW lost 2 million subs last year.
One might note that WoW had 2 million to loose. We're still < 1/2 million XD Is that bad? You need more players in EVE or something? Is CCP experiencing financial problems? I dont see why having 500k players instead of 10mil is somehow bad. More players = more developers = more EvE. That's all I'm sayin'... 
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MR DEMOS
Guardian Manufacturing Incorp.
14
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:28:00 -
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personaly i think CCP's way of balancing stuff is Bullshit. Take for instance all the indy guys who trained up the datacore agents... Useless training now can't do a thing with it. PVE Missions lvl 4 if your trying to use drones you loose them all hmmm if a person plays PVE all the time he just lost 7 months of training possibly more. THIS IS CCP's IDEA OF BALANCEING... sounds like a fricking ****** takeing a walk down a street swipeing at what ever gets in his way TBH. In turn i do understand why some rebalanceing is done and thats acceptable but when you issolate a groupe of players into playing a specfic way when they only do a few things your gonna loose players. Hahahaha CSM is a joke and has been ever since the debockle with the Matani. Total loss of credibility. Only reason i stay is becasue of Freinds in the community otherwise i would have left a long time ago... So CCP keep nerfing stuff You guys are tools anyways. |

Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
1597
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:31:00 -
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Where is EVE going?
INTO SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE Mane 614
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James Fonsworth
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:38:00 -
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~ eve is dying ~ |

Vincent R'lyeh
Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo
103
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:22:00 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:As long as CCP doesn't take the same road Blizzard did, I'll be fine.
If they start to make a zoo out of my CQ or pandas become the fifth race, I'll be heading elsewhere.
Oh I dunno I quite like the idea of a Slaver Hound & an Exotic Dancer in my CQ.
Might even bother to enter her sometimes then..... |

Xen Solarus
Inner 5phere
263
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Posted - 2013.01.16 23:09:00 -
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Onwards and upwards!! |

Not Politically Correct
Veerhouven Ventures
48
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Posted - 2013.01.17 00:04:00 -
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Randolph Rothstein wrote:eve is going wherever the money comes from
I second that. But, hey. Living in a toilet bowl can't be that bad. Consider the life of someone in a 4th world country.
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Juno Valerii
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
11
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:03:00 -
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Felicity Love wrote:"Where no man has gone before..." Red Shirts for everyone. Huzzah ! 
Heaven forbid...don't make me wretch!
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Tarpedo
Incursionista
7
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Posted - 2013.01.17 01:11:00 -
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EVE didn't have content expansions for like 2+ years already except for strange FW plex(es). Now EVE's main universe (Tranquility) is nothing more but beta-test server for Dust.
As you can see EVE already turned into Dust expansion and will give up more and more to make Dust more attractive / less unattractive. I believe dusties will be able to change SOV and tech moons ownership soon + destroy / hijack / sabotage EVE POSes. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3220
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Posted - 2013.01.17 02:31:00 -
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MR DEMOS wrote:personaly i think CCP's way of balancing stuff is Bullshit. Take for instance all the indy guys who trained up the datacore agents... Useless training now can't do a thing with it. PVE Missions lvl 4 if your trying to use drones you loose them all hmmm if a person plays PVE all the time he just lost 7 months of training possibly more. THIS IS CCP's IDEA OF BALANCEING... sounds like a fricking ****** takeing a walk down a street swipeing at what ever gets in his way TBH. In turn i do understand why some rebalanceing is done and thats acceptable but when you issolate a groupe of players into playing a specfic way when they only do a few things your gonna loose players. Hahahaha CSM is a joke and has been ever since the debockle with the Matani. Total loss of credibility. Only reason i stay is becasue of Freinds in the community otherwise i would have left a long time ago... So CCP keep nerfing stuff You guys are tools anyways. Interesting.
Tell me more. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

lollerwaffle
Sileo In Pacis THE SPACE P0LICE
31
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Posted - 2013.01.18 06:51:00 -
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MR DEMOS wrote:personaly i think CCP's way of balancing stuff is Bullshit. Take for instance all the indy guys who trained up the datacore agents... Useless training now can't do a thing with it. PVE Missions lvl 4 if your trying to use drones you loose them all hmmm if a person plays PVE all the time he just lost 7 months of training possibly more. THIS IS CCP's IDEA OF BALANCEING... sounds like a fricking ****** takeing a walk down a street swipeing at what ever gets in his way TBH. In turn i do understand why some rebalanceing is done and thats acceptable but when you issolate a groupe of players into playing a specfic way when they only do a few things your gonna loose players. Hahahaha CSM is a joke and has been ever since the debockle with the Matani. Total loss of credibility. Only reason i stay is becasue of Freinds in the community otherwise i would have left a long time ago... So CCP keep nerfing stuff You guys are tools anyways.
So you're party of the PVE crowd. CCP gives you a bit more variety, and all you can do is whine? How has a person lost 7 months of training? Did CCP remove the skills? For drones? Or did they remove the missions?
Sure, you 'understand' and think rebalancing is 'acceptable'... Apart from when it affects you personally. It's not CCP's fault that you choose to limit yourself to only 1 playstyle...
ps. If a person ONLY plays PVE all the time, I honestly doubt he wasted 7 months, more like most of his/her EVE career. Why wouldn't you at least try other parts of a game you're voluntarily paying money to play? |
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