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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.06.23 15:15:00 -
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There are more problems with lasers.
There is no tachyon equal for frigates or cruisers. Instead we get gatling pulse and quad light beam (which isn't even a beam ffs!).
I'm not sure we need tach pulses for BS tbh. I was always hoping we'd get them for dreadnaughts ________________________________________________________
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.06.23 15:21:00 -
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Edited by: Meridius on 23/06/2005 15:25:06
Originally by: Vee Bot Well as mimn are behind on dps id say they need a 1800mm artie to compare with the tach and the 425.
DrunkenOne [ATUK] perfectly strikes you wrecking for for 3829.3 damage
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.06.23 15:27:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
Originally by: Amthrianius i'd rather compare the 1200 to the dual heavy beam laser and the 1400 a tachyon and thus a mega beam (1325) is needed, well at least imo :p (as 1200's are rarely used because they lack the ooomph the 1400's have)
afaik its supposedly 1400=megabeam=425, and tachs are just an extra uber gun for amarr with extra uber fitting reqs.
And its supposedly dual 250=dual heavy beam=1200, and 350s are a special midrange for gallante.
But I think personally they should boost the 1200 a bit damage wise (completely outclassed by 1400s and uses almost as much grid) and add a dual 720 arty and make that in line with the dual 250 and dual heavy beam. It would have decent range and small fitting reqs but crap damage.
If tachs are so uber, why do they do less dps then 1400's and 425's ________________________________________________________
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.06.23 15:55:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne Edited by: DrunkenOne on 23/06/2005 15:34:56
Originally by: Meridius If tachs are so uber, why do they do less dps then 1400's and 425's
tach IIs=.408 1400 IIs=.292 425 IIs=.345 megabeam IIs=.400
w/ BS 5 tempest + 1400 II= .45625 Geddon + tach II= .51 Mega + 425 II= .43125 Geddon + megabeam IIs= .5
And no I'm not gonna calc damage mods cause I dont know how to do that .
Convenient using the geddon as a tach boat since you can only fit 5 of them and it's not as good for sniping as say the apoc because of CPU + mid slots.
Try again with the apoc and btw, i think something is wrong with your numbers... ________________________________________________________
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.06.23 16:39:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne Edited by: DrunkenOne on 23/06/2005 16:29:40
Originally by: Meridius Convenient using the geddon as a tach boat since you can only fit 5 of them and it's not as good for sniping as say the apoc because of CPU + mid slots.
Try again with the apoc and btw, i think something is wrong with your numbers...
Awesome, you can only fit 5 1400s on a tempest.
And the numbers are simply damage/RoF for the 1st group, and then damage/RoF * 1.25 (and an extra *1.25 for the tempest) for the BS.
5 Tach II's use 100% of a geddons grid so you need a pdu to fit anything else otherwise you will end up in a ship with 5 tachs II's and nothing else.
It's better to use mega beams on a geddon anyway so i don't even know why you thought up of tachs on a geddon
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.06.23 16:56:00 -
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Here are those numbers drunk...
Originally by: DigitalCommunist
425mm Railgun II Base: 3.3x @ 9.563 sec Max Skills: 6.5227x 7.17225 sec DPS: 43.65
Tachyon Beam Laser II Base: 5.1x @ 12.5 sec Max Skills: 8.064x @ 9.375 sec DPS: 41.23
1400mm Artillery II Base: 6.9x @ 23.625 sec Max Skills: 11.86x @ 11.8125 sec DPS: 48.19
You stilling calling the tach an extra uber gun? ________________________________________________________
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.06.23 17:28:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne ] tachs are just an extra uber gun for amarr with extra uber fitting reqs.
Drunk, my problem was with you calling them uber when they are AT BEST par.
Now stop doing stupid things like thinking of tachs on geddons, that does a lot less DPS then a tach with 7 mega beams
Mega beams = geddon Tachs = apoc
Sorry dread ________________________________________________________
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Meridius
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Posted - 2005.06.23 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: DrunkenOne
Can't we both just whine about how mega's with 425s are uber seeing as how they need no grid mods?
It needs no grid mods but well at least the mega is good at something this way ________________________________________________________
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