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Mathrin
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Posted - 2013.01.14 19:27:00 -
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fukier wrote:Natsett Amuinn wrote:baltec1 wrote:fukier wrote:I am not saying get rid of force projecttion at all... 50 bs of mass is pretty large... I am saying if you want to jump 300 bs you need 6 titans to do so...
Which means 6 titans sitting outside a pos is an tempting target to counter hotdrop... They dont sit outside a POS. Why would he know this? His alliance doesn't have any sov in null to park a titan safely anyways. What a shocker. Wait you can activate a titan bridge inside a pos? Its been years since I used one so I figured the titan had to be outside the pos shield for it to work... If this is the case then titan bridging needs to be moved outside the pos also.
This right here is why you should just stop. Don't try to fix what you don't understand |
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Posted - 2013.01.14 19:40:00 -
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fukier wrote:Mathrin wrote:
This right here is why you should just stop. Don't try to fix what you don't understand
no i disagree... this thread has enlighted me about some flaws i forgot about... in 6 plus years of playing eve its rather easy to forget something like that...
While I agree with the concept of removing Titan bridges from inside POS shields that is still a major mechanic. If You are not experienced enough or have proper up to date knowledge of the field you are trying to change then you have no business doing it. There is a simple reason why. Without current and accurate info you are unable to foresee what the future effects of the change may have, thus you cannot attempt to gauge if it is for better or worse. You are basicly taking shots in the dark and wishing for a good outcome. |
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Posted - 2013.01.14 20:58:00 -
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fukier wrote:ok you guys really dont like the mass limit on cynos (well atleast the cfc peeps dont)
i have yet to read non cfc people complain about the idea (but the one guy posting with his alt sounds like he could be former bob)
but what about a spool up time for jump drives? (that way you cant et or cap recharge your way across the universe)
or do you think you should get from one side of teh universe to the other in under 30 min... ( i myself with my alts can get from stain to syndicate really fast in my thanny its just a matter of how fast i can cap up)
or titans having to be outside of a pos for the bridge to work?
those two ideas must seem reasonable...
the reason why i said mass limts for cyno's is to try to make some sort of restrictions for larger pvp... like you see in WH space... but for capital projection and fleet projection...
if it just ends up being a hassle thats cool... its just a suggestion. ( i know with Tidi and stuff like that that CCP markets Blobs and tahts cool with me)
I'm just looking for ways to spice things up...you know?
but like someone said earlier in the thread they had thier cyno char pop before everyone could jump which lead to them loosing the fight...
this sounds like a good thing and if there had to be multiple cynoes it would make it more interesting. (as from an outside perspective it should take mass amount of coordination to move massive fleets around... though some would argue this already takes place and its more then a resonable argument)
I'm not CFC and I'm against the mass limit cuz lets be honest. If they are fielding 300 BSes getting five more cynos is probably not an issue... Think about what effect the changes you are suggesting will have in a realist manner. Even forcing titans off POS they will be unsafe for 5 minutes. |
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Posted - 2013.01.15 17:33:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:fukier wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Marlona Sky wrote:You guys don't find that an armada of ships is able to travel from one side of the galaxy to the other in fifteen minutes amazing and health for the game? Fifteen minutes, lol. I can get from stain to syndicate in 30 min with just me and cyno alts... So I dunno if you had et a all cyno alts setup same time you could do it in theory in that amount of time... But if there a cool down time of like 10 min this could take over an hour... 10 minutes between what, exactly? You have to be very careful in implementing the cooldown to make sure it doesn't hurt smaller alliances disproportionally more than large ones. If you have 10 minute cooldown between uses of titan bridges or jump drives however, that only hurts alliances and coalitions that don't have titans placed enroute already. That's absolutely not a problem for an alliance like RAZOR or the coalition as a whole - we already do this fairly often.
Exactly! Why can't people get that these limits want doesnt help small groups like they think it does. With a 10 minute timer a small group with one titan would take longer to jump. However a large group just uses a different Titan to jump while the first Titan cools down and logs off. All it will do is boost big and nerf small. |
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:41:00 -
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fukier wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:fukier wrote:was all that logistics too much for you guys to bother?
i think the results speak for themselves... You're asking someone from one of the top 5 largest alliances in the game. I think that speaks for itself. In any case the logistics became incredibly easy when we took HB-, because we could stage our capitals from there and we could keep our subcaps in Tenal, take jump bridges to SF-, and then take the single gate to HB- whenever there was a fleet. That took less than 5 minutes each time, and there's no nerf discussed in this thread or elsewhere that would change that. Even if you removed the jump bridges that would only make the process slightly longer. yeah but the point still stands it was worth all the trouble get to and take hb-... why can t the game have mechanics that continue to make that worth while... like lets say because you are the 5th larger allaince you guys have a decent but not large amount of super caps and were not buddy buddy with anyone else... would it not suck if you brought out your supercap force against a red started to have a aweseom fight but then an awoxer from Pl or something gets word of whats going on and setups a cyno and then 10 min into the fight you get hot droped and loose all your super caps? dont you think you deserve to have that epic fight?
No amount of game code can change human nature. We do what we have to do to thrive, we make ourselves stronge enough to crush our enemies without them being able to hurt us back. No matter what you do people will work together to become powerful. That is what null is about. |
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