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Etherealclams 305	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:18:00 - [1] - Quote How can this possibly be? I don't understand how you can play a game and not visit, post and talk on the forums. Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them? It just baffles me. http://aclamthatrants.blogspot.com/ Read up on my adventures.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 6493	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:19:00 - [2] - Quote It's ok, some of us post here and never play the game so it balances out "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Dersen Lowery Laurentson INC StructureDamage 300	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:23:00 - [3] - Quote Etherealclams wrote: How can this possibly be? I don't understand how you can play a game and not visit, post and talk on the forums. Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them? It just baffles me. I've done my time as a forum admin. The usual heuristic for a web site with forums is that for every person on the forum, there are 100 readers. The latter number varies quite a bit, actually. I've just heard 100 more often than the others. So yes, this is almost always true, and it has been for about as long as there have been forums on the web.
Marius Deterium Crush Kill Destroy 0	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:23:00 - [4] - Quote Because, to be honest, the forums are mostly ****.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 6493	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:25:00 - [5] - Quote Marius Deterium wrote: Because, to be honest, the forums are mostly ****. post with your main "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
EvEa Deva State War Academy Caldari State 196	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:29:00 - [6] - Quote Takes to long to gather any good information, like finding a needle in a pile of dog crap
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 6494	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:31:00 - [7] - Quote EvEa Deva wrote: Takes to long to gather any good information, like finding a needle in a pile of dog crap Why do people think finding a needle in anything non metallic is hard??? Just use a metal detector "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Damsel in Distress Men staring at Boobs 58	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:31:00 - [8] - Quote Etherealclams wrote: How can this possibly be? I don't understand how you can play a game and not visit, post and talk on the forums. Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them? It just baffles me. Because most regulars are trolling alts made for posting.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 1539	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:46:00 - [9] - Quote Damsel in Distress wrote: Etherealclams wrote: How can this possibly be? I don't understand how you can play a game and not visit, post and talk on the forums. Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them? It just baffles me. Because most regulars are trolling alts made for posting. Proof? *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 2166	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:46:00 - [10] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: It's ok, some of us post here and never play the game so it balances out Marius Deterium wrote: Because, to be honest, the forums are mostly **. notemptyquoting... Every Ship in GëíGêçGëí** \| [FX7] \| Vote Cthulhu 2012
Leetha Layne 53	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:48:00 - [11] - Quote Dersen Lowery wrote: Etherealclams wrote: How can this possibly be? I don't understand how you can play a game and not visit, post and talk on the forums. Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them? It just baffles me. I've done my time as a forum admin. The usual heuristic for a web site with forums is that for every person on the forum, there are 100 readers. The latter number varies quite a bit, actually. I've just heard 100 more often than the others. So yes, this is almost always true, and it has been for about as long as there have been forums on the web. This is about it...
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 2899	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:51:00 - [12] - Quote Etherealclams wrote: How can this possibly be? I don't understand how you can play a game and not visit, post and talk on the forums. Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them? It just baffles me. For every person like you, there are a few dozen who can't understand how busy people with jobs and families have time to play games and post on the forums. Then there area dozen who came to EVE through an external community, so the EVE forums have nothing for them that their external community doesn't already provide GÇö this includes small gaming clans as well as the obvious Something Awful and Reddit communities. And I apologise for bringing a sensible opinion to the EVE forums. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Kai Sheia Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation 4	Posted - 2013.01.14 22:54:00 - [13] - Quote Yeah... As said, usually less than 10% of forum readers ever significantly post. And those who bother to browse forums much are a minority as well. Over my time in MMO's, it turns out that researching or studying up on or really trying all that hard is a relatively hardcore, thin-air level of play. Lots of people kinda just coast along and just go with what is right in front of them without thinking too much. .... Frankly there is a reason WoW is so popular.
ACE McFACE Holy Amarrian Battlemonk I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 1073	Posted - 2013.01.14 23:31:00 - [14] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: EvEa Deva wrote: Takes to long to gather any good information, like finding a needle in a pile of dog crap Why do people think finding a needle in anything non metallic is hard??? Just use a metal detector Like finding a needle in a pile of paper clips should be the new saying "No one drove in New York, there was too much traffic."
NickyYo StarHug 273	Posted - 2013.01.14 23:33:00 - [15] - Quote Etherealclams wrote: How can this possibly be? I don't understand how you can play a game and not visit, post and talk on the forums. Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them? It just baffles me. People only really post on forums to complain, hense why we are all here :) We all like to complain, we are that minority of eve! ..
Sorlac Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 28	Posted - 2013.01.14 23:42:00 - [16] - Quote Surfin's PlunderBunny wrote: EvEa Deva wrote: Takes to long to gather any good information, like finding a needle in a pile of dog crap Why do people think finding a needle in anything non metallic is hard??? Just use a metal detector The saying comes from a time when people were using bone needles; it probably should be upgraded. As to the OP there are a lot of people that just come to forums to get some quick info and don't participate in the BS that usually takes place in most General Discussions.
Zol Interbottom Nanotrasen Inc 113	Posted - 2013.01.14 23:46:00 - [17] - Quote i practice the art of Forum PVP, its the only way to make up for the piles of nothing happening while i actually play EVE Nivin Sajjad > we fly perpetually networked, neural interfaced spaceships yet can't communicate coordinates to each other without physically passing back and forth little pieces of paper. it's weird
Frying Doom Zat's Affiliated Traders 1591	Posted - 2013.01.14 23:47:00 - [18] - Quote Mara Rinn wrote: Etherealclams wrote: How can this possibly be? I don't understand how you can play a game and not visit, post and talk on the forums. Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them? It just baffles me. For every person like you, there are a few dozen who can't understand how busy people with jobs and families have time to play games and post on the forums. Then there area dozen who came to EVE through an external community, so the EVE forums have nothing for them that their external community doesn't already provide GÇö this includes small gaming clans as well as the obvious Something Awful and Reddit communities. *And I apologise for bringing a sensible opinion to the EVE forums.* Burn the witch Vote for Malcanis for CSM8 https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread
Obvious Cyno Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 22	Posted - 2013.01.15 00:23:00 - [19] - Quote Complains about forums not being used enough.. Goes to forums to complain.
mynnna GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 187	Posted - 2013.01.15 00:28:00 - [20] - Quote Etherealclams wrote: Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them Yes. You can probably close the thread now, there's really no other useful discussion to be had on the topic. This post was crafted by a member of the GoonSwarm Federation Economic Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops 12616	Posted - 2013.01.15 00:33:00 - [21] - Quote Kai Sheia wrote: Yeah... As said, usually less than 10% of forum readers ever significantly post. And those who bother to browse forums much are a minority as well. Over my time in MMO's, it turns out that researching or studying up on or really trying all that hard is a relatively hardcore, thin-air level of play. Lots of people kinda just coast along and just go with what is right in front of them without thinking too much. .... Frankly there is a reason WoW is so popular. To be fair, estimates from posting stats suggest that EVE actually has an unusually high level of forum participation GÇö maybe as much as 15% or so. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
Juno Valerii Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 7	Posted - 2013.01.15 00:36:00 - [22] - Quote It's pretty much true in every forum for every game ever made. We are the tiny but EXTREMELY vocal minority and that is the sad truth.
Randolph Rothstein whatever corp. 334	Posted - 2013.01.15 00:39:00 - [23] - Quote reading more than is required to function properly is not something kewl kids do
Mara Rinn Cosmic Goo Convertor Cosmic Consortium 2899	Posted - 2013.01.15 00:43:00 - [24] - Quote Randolph Rothstein wrote: reading more than is required to function minimally is not something kewl kids do FTFY. These days I'd expect that most people will search YouTube for help or education before they'd look for pages of words. Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players
Alavaria Fera GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 3216	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:23:00 - [25] - Quote Juno Valerii wrote: It's pretty much true in every forum for every game ever made. We are the tiny but EXTREMELY vocal minority and that is the sad truth. Only if we are destructive and leading the game toward annihilation. Oh wait, goon corp tag. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm
Mr Epeen It's All About Me 2106	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:35:00 - [26] - Quote EvEa Deva wrote: Takes to long to gather any good information, like finding a needle in a pile of dog crap That's easy. Just grab a handful and squeeze it till you feel a sharp pain. Now a haystack on the other hand... Mr Epeen -ávOv
Hir Miriel Elves In Space 2	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:52:00 - [27] - Quote Etherealclams wrote: How can this possibly be? I don't understand how you can play a game and not visit, post and talk on the forums. Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them? It just baffles me. I love forums, it's a very diverse community, and I usually get a smile or two out of reading topics, which makes it worth it to me. Mind you it took me a few years of gaming to find and start regularly using game forums. Starting with questions and then moving further afield into broader discussions. I imagine that timewise and gamewise it may not appeal to all. If you have kids and a regular teamspeak team, forums might be too much. Then again it could be some people don't like peeking behind the curtain, they want to log in and be surprised by new updates or have to find things out themselves. I think of forums as a vital part of any online game. But we are fairly new at it. The point about only a small group uses the forums is interesting, I know it tempts game companies into thinking "small expendable minority, who don't act as they talk." Gamers game, they play the existing rules. Which I think explains discrepancies between game action and forum words. We still don't know much about social networks like Facebook, Twitter and Game Forums, personally I put the Game Forums ahead of Facebook and Twitter with respect to their respective games.
Jame Jarl Retief Murientor Tribe Defiant Legacy 953	Posted - 2013.01.15 01:59:00 - [28] - Quote Etherealclams wrote: How can this possibly be? I don't understand how you can play a game and not visit, post and talk on the forums. Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them? It just baffles me. I know it's hard to believe, but for VAST majority of games (including MMOs), most players never even visit the forums unless they encounter a problem, which is usually not even gameplay-related. Take me, for example. I never post anything on the forums of non-MMO games. Ever. I get the game, I play it for a while, and then quit it when I get bored with it. It's that simple. MMOs tend to be a larger time investment, so I post from time to time. But even so, there's been plenty of MMOs that I deemed beyond recovery and didn't really bother to comment on at all - abject failures that would never amount to anything, like Tera Online, for example. Which is why I feel developers ought to pay attention to people who take the time and make the effort to communicate their views to the dev team. The big difference between your average forum poster and just some guy who plays the game and never even visits the forum is that with the former, you know where you stand as a developer. The latter simply drop out without a word, and you never find out what it was that made them quit. Sure, some MMOs have a little window on cancellation page asking why, but those are usually limited to 100 words or less and let's face it, almost nobody fills those out anyhow. And which is also why it bothers me when people on the forum get labeled as the "vocal minority". Are they a vocal minority? Yeah, they are. But the only difference between them and the silent majority is that when silent majority leaves, they do so silently and you never get to find out why, you can only guess. Makes it damn difficult to improve your product in the right direction.
SmilingVagrant GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 1326	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:03:00 - [29] - Quote Etherealclams wrote: How can this possibly be? I don't understand how you can play a game and not visit, post and talk on the forums. Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them? It just baffles me. Honestly I find it amazing anyone is able to read half of the sub literate garbage and malformed ideas on this forum without wanting to huff paint thinner while playing with a lighter.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 6511	Posted - 2013.01.15 02:07:00 - [30] - Quote SmilingVagrant wrote: Etherealclams wrote: How can this possibly be? I don't understand how you can play a game and not visit, post and talk on the forums. Are people just too lazy to care or do they just not know about them? It just baffles me. Honestly I find it amazing anyone is able to read half of the sub literate garbage and malformed ideas on this forum without wanting to huff paint thinner while playing with a lighter. Like your face "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á

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