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CCP Guard
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:25:00 -
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Executive Producer for EVE Online, CCP Unifex, brings news of the future and organization of the EVE project. Check out the blog right here, and we eagerly await your comments as always.
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Drosal Inkunen
Harmonic Discord
Lightning Knights
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:27:00 -
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Hey, the dev blog is back again!
Anyway, I look forward to these changes. I hope you are able to pull it off!
Is this going to lead to lots of smaller changes in each category or several large ones at once? |
jyppy
Under Heavy Fire
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:34:00 -
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More Apocrypha's? Go on then 
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Damion Rayne
Disciples of Jebediah
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:45:00 -
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jyppy wrote:More Apocrypha's? Go on then
Agreed!
www.kerbalspaceprogram.com
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CCP Unifex
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:46:00 -
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Drosal Inkunen wrote:
Is this going to lead to lots of smaller changes in each category or several large ones at once?
That really depends on what makes sense as the development team look at what will make the best release along with player and CSM feedback.
Executive Producer of EVE Online |
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Neville Smit
Griffin Capsuleers
Ad-Astra
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:46:00 -
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jyppy wrote:More Apocrypha's? Go on then
Nev approves of this direction. +1 |
Two step
Aperture Harmonics
K162
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:50:00 -
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This is a pretty huge change to the way CCP operates, and there should be some more details in the CSM minutes, which should be out tomorrow. CCP Unifex is awesome, FYI.
CSM 7 Secretary
CSM 6 Alternate Delegate
@two_step_eve on Twitter
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Sovai Elaaren
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
40
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:51:00 -
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This sounds promising. And given the track record you guys have been building with the last couple expansions, I'm already excited. :-) |
Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
2366
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:51:00 -
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JON LANDER I WANT YOU TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OR SOMETHING!!!!!
CSM 7 Chairman
My Blog - Where I say stuff
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:52:00 -
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Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Kelduum Revaan
EVE University
Ivy League
1962
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:53:00 -
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Seleene wrote:JON LANDER I WANT YOU TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF SOMETHING!!!!!
Jon Lander for CSM8 chairman!
Oh... hang on...
Kelduum Revaan
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
7034
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:53:00 -
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Good blog, Unifex. Now I'm more eager than ever to see the minutes.
Above all though, I'm truly glad to see you talking the language of ambition and vision again. The last 3 "fix focused" expansions have been really excellent, and EVE as a game is massively more polished, reliable and playable than it was before Crucible. But now is the time to build on that solid foundation and really expand EVE. Many older EVE players will be gun-shy of the "vision thing", but CCP has shown that ~iteration~ isn't just a cruel joke any more, but something you can and will genuinely deliver.
What made Apocrypha great wasn't just that it pushed all the "PVE/PVP/Exploration/Industry" buttons, but that it offered us new things to do, and new ways to live life in New Eden. I hope that "new ways to live" will be your watchword going forward: polish, bugfixes and UI improvements are good and necessary, but they're only 1 axis of the graph that chart's EVEs rise.
In a weird way I believe that 2013 marks the end of the longest live beta in the gaming industry's history. And now we're ready to go live.
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Elise Randolph
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
979
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:55:00 -
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CCP Unifex
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.15 19:55:00 -
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Kelduum Revaan wrote:Seleene wrote:JON LANDER I WANT YOU TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF SOMETHING!!!!! Jon Lander for CSM8 chairman!Oh... hang on...
Hmmmmm. Now you mention it.....
Somehow I think IA may have an issue with that.
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CCP Unifex
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:01:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Good blog, Unifex. Now I'm more eager than ever to see the minutes.
In a weird way I believe that 2013 marks the end of the longest live beta in the gaming industry's history. And now we're ready to go live.
It was a great CSM summit so I hope you like the minutes. As for 2013, we are certain in a different place as we enter Eve Online second decade. Bring it on!
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Drosal Inkunen
Harmonic Discord
Lightning Knights
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:02:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote:Drosal Inkunen wrote:
Is this going to lead to lots of smaller changes in each category or several large ones at once?
That really depends on what makes sense as the development team look at what will make the best release along with player and CSM feedback.
Thanks for the quick reply.
I hope this leads to more story related things happening! |
Seleene
Body Count Inc.
Pandemic Legion
2368
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:04:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote:Malcanis wrote:Good blog, Unifex. Now I'm more eager than ever to see the minutes.
In a weird way I believe that 2013 marks the end of the longest live beta in the gaming industry's history. And now we're ready to go live. It was a great CSM summit so I hope you like the minutes. As for 2013, we are certain in a different place as we enter Eve Online second decade. Bring it on!
Be nice to Malcanis - I think you'll be meeting him in person at the CSM 8 summit shortly after FanFest... 
CSM 7 Chairman
My Blog - Where I say stuff
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Cordo Draken
ABOS Industrial Enterprises
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:04:00 -
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Hmmm, odd, the page is empty... Can't view it with Safari via my I-phone 
Reserved for later comments...
eëÆWhomever said, "You only get one shot to make a good impression," was utterly wrong. I've made plenty of great impressions with my AutocannonseëÆ eÉà |
Panhead4411
Rothschild's Sewage and Septic Sucking Services
The Possum Lodge
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:08:00 -
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"no major drama" in 2012?
Unifubar Inventory anyone? (that still isn't quite right b/c it lacks the promised "persistence" still) Then the "weekly fixes till its as good as it was before" that persisted for a whole of two weeks then seemingly the entire staff went on vacation for 2 months...
Fix what you've broken this year, make it all actually work as good as the previous system (ie, atleast maintaining the same level of functionality, it currently still has LESS), then you can look at making new things, so long as you finally decide to not push broken things onto TQ b/c thats what your time table demands. ("we honestly thought we were ready" line is complete BS)
Looks like you didn't really learn anything if you think there were no dramas this past year, so sad to see such a legacy of a great game being slowly killed by pride and arrogance of those working on it.
http://blog.beyondreality.se/shift-click-does-nothing -á-á < Unified Inventory is NOT ready... |
Christ Illusion
Atrocity Vendors
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:09:00 -
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Any WiS in 2013? |
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:11:00 -
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Seleene wrote:CCP Unifex wrote:Malcanis wrote:Good blog, Unifex. Now I'm more eager than ever to see the minutes.
In a weird way I believe that 2013 marks the end of the longest live beta in the gaming industry's history. And now we're ready to go live. It was a great CSM summit so I hope you like the minutes. As for 2013, we are certain in a different place as we enter Eve Online second decade. Bring it on! Be nice to Malcanis - I think you'll be meeting him in person at the CSM 8 summit shortly after FanFest...
Chickens, eggs etc.
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
Aryth
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:12:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote:Kelduum Revaan wrote:Seleene wrote:JON LANDER I WANT YOU TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF SOMETHING!!!!! Jon Lander for CSM8 chairman!Oh... hang on... Hmmmmm. Now you mention it..... Somehow I think IA may have an issue with that.
Don't they report up to you anyway?
Leader of the Goonswarm Economic Cabal
Vile Rat: You're the greatest sociopath that has ever played eve. |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:17:00 -
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Looks good to me. Glad that you've come up with a good approach to moving forward and keep this game (lifestyle?) alive and improving.
Let us now proceed with the hashing out of the details.
EVE is a sandbox; The only "end-game" content in EVE is the crap that makes you rage-quit.
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1385
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:23:00 -
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Panhead4411 wrote:"no major drama" in 2012?
Unifubar Inventory anyone? (that still isn't quite right b/c it lacks the promised "persistence" still) Then the "weekly fixes till its as good as it was before" that persisted for a whole of two weeks then seemingly the entire staff went on vacation for 2 months...
Fix what you've broken this year, make it all actually work as good as the previous system (ie, atleast maintaining the same level of functionality, it currently still has LESS), then you can look at making new things, so long as you finally decide to not push broken things onto TQ b/c thats what your time table demands. ("we honestly thought we were ready" line is complete BS)
Looks like you didn't really learn anything if you think there were no dramas this past year, so sad to see such a legacy of a great game being slowly killed by pride and arrogance of those working on it.
He said major dramas, like, say, a botched expansion that didn't expand anything and led to full scale rioting and massed unsubs, with a side order of leaked internal newsletters. Compared to the post-Incarna environment, complaining about the UI is nothing.
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Bloodpetal
Sal's Waste Management and Pod Disposal
The Mockers AO
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:26:00 -
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I'm anxious to see how you're going to do parallel delivery on material that seems to require heavy recoding from the ground up (i.e. POS+Ring Mining)
Taking what you did with the Inferno point releases and prepping the code foundations up to 6 months before release seems like a more plausible in scheduling, but also means CCP needs to know what they're doing *gasp* 12 months ahead of time?
So, that means that Modular POS coding is already happening, to start on assets delivery in the winter sprints as we speak. But , according to CCP Seagull, apparently the expansion pre-production stage is starting up soon. Shouldn't that be for the Winter delivery pre-production planning?
Whatever is happening for the current expansion should already be 6 months in development (much like the foundation for Crimewatch was delivered in Summer while the actual changed landed in Winter).
Guess we'll see in Fanfest :) I'll buy you a beer if you impress. 
Where I am. |
Gallion
Outer Sector
815
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:41:00 -
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so Dev Team, this brings up a very curious question and that is whats next? I know dust514 still has integration and changes upcoming but When will we see more to the Incarna System?
This is a Signature, It makes people Stare. (Man I gotta Make one , or Find one to steal) |
None ofthe Above
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Posted - 2013.01.15 20:53:00 -
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Gallion wrote:so Dev Team, this brings up a very curious question and that is whats next? I know dust514 still has integration and changes upcoming but When will we see more to the Incarna System?
The Incarna question has been asked an answered by CCP Unifex recently.
While I wouldn't mind seeing tweaks and releases of assets more or less together at this point, I agree with him that any major pushes forward in this area is not a good use of the team's resources right now.
Let the World of Darkness team in Atlanta chew on Carbon avatar based gameplay with enhanced animations, interfaces, multi-avatar performance and such. When significant work is done there then CCP can look at adapting that to some new functionality, hopefully with meaningful impact on EVE.
If CCP has a way to get this to us sooner in a way that would work (like say adapting Unreal 4 or some such, leveraging the work done for DUST) then great. But I think it's a loser to be pushing for signifcant dev resources for incarna at this time.
Sorry to say it, because I'd love to see EVE become that perfect simulation of all aspects of future life in New Eden as much as anyone.
EVE is a sandbox; The only "end-game" content in EVE is the crap that makes you rage-quit.
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Kiran
Knights of Azrael
The Azrael Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:15:00 -
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I would also like to see some kind of improvement to NPC null sec space. Such as the ore you can find in belts or a way to upgrade systems so you can find better ore/ anomolies like sov space. It just seems that NPC null sec space is getting left behind when compared to what Sov and Faction Warfare are getting.
And before you anyone says it I have tried sov space and I don't like it.
Too actualy finish off Incarna would be a nice addition to Eve, but I know this wont happen for a very long time if ever. |
Orisa Medeem
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
23
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:20:00 -
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CCP Unifex wrote:I have split the former role of Senior Producer into 2 roles enabling each to be done with full focus on delivering greater things. (...) The second position is GÇÿSenior ProducerGÇÖ which in its new definition is about solidifying the product vision and short, medium and long term roadmap
It's not clear to me what the role of Creative Director is now. Can you please clarify?
:sand: -áover -á:awesome: |
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:22:00 -
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Never stop coding. |
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:32:00 -
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It is going to be truly interesting to watch this new process play out, and the summit was a good start (as people wil see when the minutes come out). But the next big test will be in the coming weeks as CCP develops its first expansion release plan using this new philosophy.
I think I can safely speak for my colleagues on the CSM when I say that we are all looking forward to being involved in this process, and keeping the community informed about its progress.
The Sarcasm is Strong with Me GÇó Member of CSM 5-7 GÇó Blog |
Drayzon
Earth and Fire
Mors ex Elementis
0
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Posted - 2013.01.15 21:43:00 -
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This may be a little too little a little too late. The new AI is fun, but the drones cannot handle it. I enjoy the new level of interaction, but dispair fills me when the drones are whiped from the game with two shots. It may be fair to the npc's in the game and the fight, but recalling drones is often as pointless as launching them. My game play since the new AI has gone from regular to almost nothing. So I ask, is there a drone armor kit coming soon? |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:24:00 -
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Two blogs! Whoooo
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CCP Unifex
C C P
C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:33:00 -
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Lots of good posts, info and feedback so far. I'll be posting some more answers / replies a bit later.
Please make sure you check out CCP Seagulls blog here so you get a fuller picture.
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Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:44:00 -
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We just have to wait to see the end result. The last 3 expansions delivered.
If you want instant gratification, go stimulate your genitals. EvE is Hard, deal with it. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:45:00 -
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To be honest, the drone nerf really dampened my desire to play Eve, but reading the Dev Blog has made me realize that I should stop whinging, HTFU and enjoy Eve for the wonderful gaming experience it is.
Here's to another 10 fanastic years for Eve and the great players who make Eve what it is.
This is not a signature. |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
3850
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Posted - 2013.01.15 22:53:00 -
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Bloodpetal wrote: Taking what you did with the Inferno point releases and prepping the code foundations up to 6 months before release seems like a more plausible in scheduling, but also means CCP needs to know what they're doing *gasp* 12 months ahead of time?
Yes.
Quote: So, that means that Modular POS coding is already happening, to start on assets delivery in the winter sprints as we speak. But, according to CCP Seagull, apparently the expansion pre-production stage is starting up soon. Shouldn't that be for the Winter delivery pre-production planning?
Whatever is happening for the current expansion should already be 6 months in development (much like the foundation for Crimewatch was delivered in Summer while the actual changed landed in Winter).
Not exactly. Nothing should be assumed about what is or isn't in the pipeline at the moment. This is the -beginning- of a whole new process, a clean slate, this isn't the process that's been happening the last 6 months inside CCP. We'll be working with CCP to come up with the theme and feature set for summer, and by the time summer content is delivered, I'd imagine there will have been time to make much longer-term plans. However, the feature set for 2013 is very much -not- in stone at the moment.
Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1388
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Posted - 2013.01.15 23:13:00 -
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Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Not exactly. Nothing should be assumed about what is or isn't in the pipeline at the moment. This is the -beginning- of a whole new process, a clean slate, this isn't the process that's been happening the last 6 months inside CCP.
You realise this begs the question: what has been happeining in CCP over the last 6 months?
Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Kinis Deren
EVE University
Ivy League
133
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Posted - 2013.01.15 23:19:00 -
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This certainly looks like the right direction to me and I wish CCP Ripley & CCP Seagull every success in their new roles.
If Retribution could be considered as the prototype for the theme approach then the future looks very bright indeed.
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Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
3850
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Posted - 2013.01.15 23:19:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:Hans Jagerblitzen wrote:Not exactly. Nothing should be assumed about what is or isn't in the pipeline at the moment. This is the -beginning- of a whole new process, a clean slate, this isn't the process that's been happening the last 6 months inside CCP. You realise this begs the question: what has been happeining in CCP over the last 6 months?
Ummmmmm well there was Retribution, and all.
Seriously though, there has been a fair amount of pre-production and prototyping and experimentation with a lot of potential features that has taken place, some of which will no doubt be part of Summer expansion, but which of these features will be selected to flesh out and build the expansion around has yet to be determined. We saw lots of -options- at the summit, some of which will be outlined in the minutes, some of which will be NDA'd until CCP decides to go forward with them.
Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Finde learth
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2013.01.15 23:43:00 -
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CCP FTW !!!!
EVE Forever !!!!!!!!!!!! |
EarthZone
HomeZone
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Posted - 2013.01.15 23:57:00 -
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Wow, 2 women on leading positions. Congrats CCP Seagull and CCP Ripley. o/
I'm sure you and all of CCP will bring us shiny new stuff. Can i has it pls soon?
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Bienator II
madmen of the skies
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:02:00 -
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honestly i don't see a big difference in the new process. Its rather like a consequence of realizing that there are some features on the TODO list which may take longer to develop as the typical expansion cycle. (but thats not a bad thing!)
anyway. cool stuff! keep up the good work and don't fear trendy low-risk experiments (kickstarter + WIS = ?)
a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105
You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |
Maximus Andendare
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
54
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:44:00 -
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This strategy sounds awesome, as long as area doesn't lag behind the others (balancing mainly!)--otherwise, offering something for everyone to look forward to in each expansion is total win!
This just in: Dev's Win! |
M1k3y Koontz
Blackened Skies
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Posted - 2013.01.16 00:53:00 -
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I noticed moon mining wasn't on the flowchart-thingymajig... could that be part of POSes?
*Less-than-subtle-hint-about-bad-mechanic*
How much herp could a herp derp derp if a herp derp could herp derp. |
Flamespar
Woof Club
503
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Posted - 2013.01.16 01:37:00 -
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Can we get some sort of update about avatar game play? Something more concrete than the usual we promise to possibly deliver something at some point in some way?
There are a lot of players interested in seeing where this can go who have been left hanging.
Also tattoos? What happened to them?
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Natsett Amuinn
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1485
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Posted - 2013.01.16 01:41:00 -
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Left me with the impression that WiS could see a return within a theme.
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Flamespar
Woof Club
503
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Posted - 2013.01.16 01:43:00 -
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Natsett Amuinn wrote:Left me with the impression that WiS could see a return within a theme.
Next expansion
EVE Online: Look at moi
Featuring new avatar fashions and an interactive catwalk.
Kidding aside, I'd love for the POS revamp to include interiors.
I can post on a forum, therefore I represent everyone. |
Tian Jade
Bad Bumblebee Incorporated
58
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Posted - 2013.01.16 02:18:00 -
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From what I am reading here we will get a lot more "maintenance" patches, maybe a few more ships, slight changes to sovereignity mechanics etc but nothing new. I noticed that Incarna was not even mentioned as one of the milestones of past, only hinted as a source of drama and as something you seem to wish forget about.
That does not look good for the future of EVE, not good at all, especially not with strong competition arriving within the next 2 years. |
Pirokobo
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
24
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Posted - 2013.01.16 02:32:00 -
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Quote:One thing which I need to make clear at this point is that all things are on the table as we continue to build and refine our product plans. Some people have been looking forward to Modular POSes, Ring Mining and a host of other things we have talked about during 2012 and before. These are things that we certainly want to tackle but the intention is that we wonGÇÖt deliver these things in one almighty release and we're looking at everything from a fresh perspective.
So what you're saying is we're not getting a pos overhaul this year.
You can't iterate to that from the current system, it needs to be torn out and replaced.
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GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
518
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Posted - 2013.01.16 02:42:00 -
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i don't care about ring mining or poses. let me shoot and offline station services in NPC null. Thank you in advance. |
Grimm Index
Alea Iacta Est Universal
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.01.16 06:28:00 -
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Definitely a fan of this iterative process. It's great to see that CCP is willing to do a bit of restructuring in order to accomplish continually updated goals.
I hope that this leads to some ambitious and enjoyable content in the coming year(s).
I'm optimistic. |
Phoehnix
Omni Galactic Resource Excavation Inc.
Tri-Star Galactic Industries
30
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Posted - 2013.01.16 06:59:00 -
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Sounds very good and makes me very optimistic for the future! :)
I just hope you will stick to these plans for the long run and not abandon them after a few expansions |
St Mio
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
1100
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Posted - 2013.01.16 07:26:00 -
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CCP are you finally fixing Exploration? :')
On a more serious note, hope to see devs fishing for feedback in the Exploration and Scanning channels in-game! |
Sinooko
Gespenster Kompanie
Villore Accords
48
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Posted - 2013.01.16 07:31:00 -
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After we get modular star bases I want to be able to walk around on said modular star bases plox! 
Long Live Eve Online! |
Solosky
Express Hauler
1
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Posted - 2013.01.16 09:13:00 -
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Christ Illusion wrote:Any WiS in 2013?
CCP Unifex wrote:and CSM feedback.
I guess not. We'll be lucky to have *any* non-null / non-low-sec content with "representatives" like that. |
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
545
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Posted - 2013.01.16 09:17:00 -
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So, basically......instead badly designing one thing, then not listening to player feedback on Sisi and bringing it in anyway ...... you are going to do this with a bunch of things all at the same time.
Awesome, really looking forward to it. |
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
545
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Posted - 2013.01.16 09:25:00 -
[58] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:CSM feedback.
Lol. This is the most ineffectual and worthless CSM for years. |
Lamthara Lachesis
Emporio Amarr
13
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Posted - 2013.01.16 09:40:00 -
[59] - Quote
Solosky wrote:Christ Illusion wrote:Any WiS in 2013? CCP Unifex wrote:and CSM feedback. I guess not. We'll be lucky to have *any* non-null / non-low-sec content with "representatives" like present low/null based CSM.
shame... it would be cool to get out that door, maybe to have only a corporation meeting room where to meet in "person" your mates... |
Janus Mandu
Es and Whizz
Hedonistic Imperative
5
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Posted - 2013.01.16 10:56:00 -
[60] - Quote
Apocrypha was by far the best expansion. Looking forward to more of that. |
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Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
1010
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Posted - 2013.01.16 10:58:00 -
[61] - Quote
Nice
PS. I started playing EVE few days before Apocrypha  |
Mike deVoid
Fweddit
I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth
32
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Posted - 2013.01.16 11:12:00 -
[62] - Quote
I approve of this new strategy |
Dasola
Rookie Empire Citizens
Rookie Empire
126
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Posted - 2013.01.16 11:29:00 -
[63] - Quote
Expected some mention of scinece&industry interface update, but left disapointed. Damn non playing Gamedevelopers.... Should kidnap few of you and force you to use S&I interface for few weeks, after that force you at gun point to fix it, ingame of course ;)
[Insert something funny or smart here]
Good lord has set me on path, sometimes im confused about what he wants from me. But path leads on, towards why he placed me on this wonderfull planet... |
Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
10
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Posted - 2013.01.16 13:23:00 -
[64] - Quote
EarthZone wrote:2 women in leading positions. Congrats CCP Seagull and CCP Ripley
congratz indeed |
Alx Warlord
SUPERNOVA SOCIETY
Tribal Conclave
280
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Posted - 2013.01.16 13:33:00 -
[65] - Quote
Hmm this is really god news.....
Quote:if you have some time, take a look at these treads on my signature, they have some concepts that I have being working on, and you may find interesting. The first is a vision about the POS revamp (That everyone is asking for, this topic have over 5000 views), in it I tried to gather most of Comunity/CSM/Game Market desires and built something usefull. This feature would be really usefull to the "enablers", and also would open new possibilities of gameplay. Most of people that I showed this says: "This is too good, but I dont think CCP can do It..." so there is the challange, to get as close as possible to this... The second is something about the industry and the refinning process. Less important then the first but yet, maybe somewhat usefull. If you don't have much time read the first.... I hope you appreciate it, I have put allot of effort in this... Thx for your time.
Please read this! > New POS system (Block Built)
Please read this! > Refining and Reprocess Revamp |
Roime
Shiva Furnace
1651
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Posted - 2013.01.16 13:43:00 -
[66] - Quote
Looking very much forward to what this year brings, these latest expansions have been simply brilliant <3
Shiva Furnace is recruiting! Small gang PVP in wormholes and lowsec. |
Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods
Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
2116
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Posted - 2013.01.16 14:33:00 -
[67] - Quote
Only problem I see with this is there is no WiS content in that diagram...
Stop listening to the vocal minority and start working on WiS again!
Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821 |
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
999
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Posted - 2013.01.16 14:39:00 -
[68] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Only problem I see with this is there is no WiS content in that diagram...
Stop listening to the vocal minority and start working on WiS again!
There is no fullness without emptiness, and WiS is the Yin that balances EVE's Yang.
No, I'm not back. I had a PLEX on this account and just activated it to bang my head on the Door a bit more. |
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
6
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Posted - 2013.01.16 16:30:00 -
[69] - Quote
Before any more new content is added and definately before modular POSes are introduced we need the following:
An overhaul of the Corporation/Alliance Roles & Permissions to make them user friendly and fit for purpose.
An overhaul of the Corporation/Alliance Roles & Permissions specifically on their interactions with POS & Outpost installations with a view to allowing multiple Corp members to do science & construction jobs SECURELY without risk of theft or sabotage.
I don't believe CCP have ever officially stated whether they would like to see the above work implemented or whether they like the current situation as it stands. It would be nice to know if they agree that the above ideas should be implemented  |
Manssell
OmiHyperMultiNationalDrunksConglomerate
136
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Posted - 2013.01.16 16:36:00 -
[70] - Quote
I have to say the new strategy does look really good on paper, the new flow chart gives everyone something to look forward to and must be a big hit in meetings. But it begs the question of how you will handle features that require large amount of man hours to release and can not be released in stages?
I'm using POS's as an example here. From everything we have heard a rework of them is a huge undertaking in terms of design and man hours. Previously a "team" would have been assigned to this task and worked towards it's completion as it's goal thus doing all the man hours at once then releasing the feature. Now under the new strategy it seems a few people will work a bit on a feature for an expansion at a time, building towards it's eventual completion at some not defined latter date. Won't this have the effect of dragging the development of features that need large amount of man hours out for literally years? It seems on the surface that a feature like POS's which the community has been waiting on for years, would take several more years to get even to a first roll out stage under this new strategy?
It also looks like it's going to have the effect of appearing that development has stopped on large features for a least a few expansions as new ground wok is laid for them by smaller groups of employees for multiple features. This may cause a bit of rabble from the community in an expansion when nothing completed is delivered. I really hope this works out, but these are a few concerns I can see happening. |
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Nukleanis
Falcon Advanced Industries
17
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Posted - 2013.01.16 16:55:00 -
[71] - Quote
Unifex, say I want to make you lunch sometime (and as a fellow Brit I'm sure you're missing a cup of Assam with Red Leicester on toast) but I've decided to incorporate all the horrible, repulsive and downright painful management terms into a proposal for making lunch. See what you think:
Quote:After considering the lunches I have made in 2012, I looked at everything I had achieved as a foundation for 2013, and I discovered that an oven really adds a huge amount of value to what I do in the kitchen. As I continue to refine my product plans to help deliver lunch in 2013, I have enlisted the aid of a George Foreman grill. Given the grill's track record in delivering dinner, I'm confident of great things. I also bought a cookbook to solidify the product vision and short, medium and long term roadmap of what I want to achieve with afternoon mealtimes.
Lunch just got a whole lot less exciting. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Overly Complex Security Innovations
5096
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:22:00 -
[72] - Quote
More Apocrypha style expansions can only be a good thing. I may even actually wade through the CSM paper this time instead of just skimming it.
Always bet on stupid, CCP can't patch stupid.
The measure of success in Eve is not monetary worth,
it's how effectively you can bend others to your will. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
123
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Posted - 2013.01.16 21:24:00 -
[73] - Quote
The Times They Are a-Changin'
Inside mining barge, true story |
Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
Late Night Alliance
3866
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Posted - 2013.01.17 04:23:00 -
[74] - Quote
Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Nice PS. I started playing EVE few days before Apocrypha
Apocrypha was the first splash screen I ever saw.
Vice Secretary of the 7th Council of Stellar Management.
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Bob Bedala
31
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Posted - 2013.01.17 11:34:00 -
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Did like the blog post, and do like the idea of an "iterative, improve what we got" / "add new chunk of fun" split, and on delivering smaller chunks of both, more often. I think it will keep more people happy whilst retaining the ability to parade new shiny stuff.
I also think this approach reduces loss of post-release dev cycles to hotfixes, as well as user tears.
On that topic, I for one would like to see testing prioritised - focus on an improved means of testing plus gathering & archiving structured user feedback - like an Issue Tracker with a simplified public interface that maybe sat alongside the current forum free-for-all, integrated with the bug tracker.
While it's great to be Agile-esque, release small features often and iterate quickly, without structured feedback it's hard to know what to be iterating toward, and the very issue of marshalling & retrieving feedback becomes an issue in itself.
Thoughtful users (with the most valuable feedback) can see if an issue has been discussed before and easily see CCP's take on the topic without wading through threads looking for a dev post, and engaged users can point new users towards the SOA for the topic, game designers can easily gauge & refer to the mood and feedback to users - which still seems sth of a weakness despite CCP's groundbreaking CSM policy. It also plugs any gaps the CSM misses.
Anyways, thanks for letting us know ;) |
Jada Maroo
Mysterium Astrometrics
929
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Posted - 2013.01.17 13:16:00 -
[76] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Lots of good posts, info and feedback so far. I'll be posting some more answers / replies a bit later.
You were once a god amongst men. But when you dropped your pants and took a Hilmar on the modular POS you lost your virginal brilliance and became just another man.
Ascend again, Jon. I have faith in you. |
TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
93
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Posted - 2013.01.17 17:12:00 -
[77] - Quote
CCP Unifex wrote:Kelduum Revaan wrote:Seleene wrote:JON LANDER I WANT YOU TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT OF SOMETHING!!!!! Jon Lander for CSM8 chairman!Oh... hang on... Hmmmmm. Now you mention it..... Somehow I think IA may have an issue with that.
Why not provide them with a provision clause to circumvent this?
In other words; Is this really a problem?
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FoxFire Ayderan
EVE University
Ivy League
18
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Posted - 2013.01.18 00:42:00 -
[78] - Quote
Flamespar wrote:Can we get some sort of update about avatar game play? Something more concrete than the usual we promise to possibly deliver something at some point in some way?
There are a lot of players interested in seeing where this can go who have been left hanging.
Also tattoos? What happened to them?
I am also in the sizable crowd of those who are still very eager to see more done with avatars, interiors for meeting and socializing, and more ambitiously avatar game-play mechanics.
I really hope that CCP does have some concrete plans to continue and expand on this and that there is still SOME movement on it, even if it's going to be awhile to come to fruition.
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CompactDisc7227
Kigurosaka Corporation
2
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Posted - 2013.01.18 01:48:00 -
[79] - Quote
Since we're talking about new POS features here, what about an actual corp-towards-npc standing so people can work on their reputation without everyone in the corp having to do 24/7 missioning for a few weeks just to get a station up in highsec? |
Reyona
Care Bear Bunch
13
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Posted - 2013.01.18 11:13:00 -
[80] - Quote
Congrats on the promotions!
The themed releases sound great, but having not read the CSM minutes yet, I hope the idea of one big expansion followed by ~2 smaller and more focused releases on the same theme was considered at some point.
Small, controlled content is probably better and smarter, but it's cool to have some major (and not necessarily perfect) gameplay content from time to time, especially in a sandbox-style game. |
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Ms Michigan
Aviation Professionals for EVE
11
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Posted - 2013.01.20 02:18:00 -
[81] - Quote
Mr. Lander,
I just wanted to say I was very happy (and proud) to be an EVE subscriber when I read your Dblog.
Great vision, great plan, realistic yet goal oriented. Kudos.
Specifically, we have something identical to your split in designers at my aviation company and it has worked out VERY well the past few years. Akin to a creative director balanced with the RL demands. CCP Ripley and Seagull seem like great choices and again it seems like a great plan. As a player I can't wait to see EVE in the Long term. I know it will be around in the next ten years. Anything myself and EVE players can do to help. Let us know.
(WIS, 3D environments, Dust integration, economies of scale, all these are things I bet we will be talking about in a few short years as EVE is the best chance I have seen for a futuristic space vision since the original Star Trek rolled out in the 60s. - How inspiring that was and EVE is.)
Keep up the good work.
/The APEVE Crew
P.S. One thing I did want to say in a more constructive (yet negative tone though) about EVE ...I have heard it talked about among DEV's though before. SIMPLIFICATION. Not OVER-Simplification...but as EVE grows (the beast it is) but simplifying some tasks and the game itself to an extent, eliminating bloat....THESE will be the BIG challenges for you IMHO. Not just system complexity pushing away future gamers gloat, but CODING gloat, memory leaks, CPU/GPU demand. I recently downloaded the client from scratch the other day...5GB. Getting up there. Even for high speed that is a lot.
Anyways - If I might add a suggestion at the risk of being bold. Keep things SIMPLE at the very least for SOME PART of the game; IDEALLY - EMPIRE. People (new subscribers) can have a place to start that is NOT overwhelming and simple to do things. If they want to build their own private empire or help with someone elses (Sandbox) (AS ALL OF US DO even if we won't admit it) - then that is what WH's and 0.0 are for. They can then migrate there. Do a BETTER job of making empire simpler and you will win even more subscribers.
Cheers
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SamuraiJack
Sacred Templars
Unclaimed.
27
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Posted - 2013.01.21 16:33:00 -
[82] - Quote
Vertisce Soritenshi wrote:Only problem I see with this is there is no WiS content in that diagram...
Stop listening to the vocal minority and start working on WiS again!
**** WiS. its massive waste of time. |
SamuraiJack
Sacred Templars
Unclaimed.
27
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Posted - 2013.01.21 16:36:00 -
[83] - Quote
for the love of all that is holy...
FIX POS's and ROLES. FIX CORP MANAGEMENT.
stop fiddlign with ships. :| (my hurricane!) |
Nyla Skin
Maximum fun chamber
203
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Posted - 2013.02.05 09:00:00 -
[84] - Quote
I don't have anything to strive for, but it was a good blog nonetheless.
SamuraiJack wrote:
**** WiS. its massive waste of time.
WHat do you consider playing a MMO if not waste of time?
But I would rather have CCP funnel that effort into WoD development instead of WiS.. |
PsychoBitch
Playboy Enterprises
Dark Taboo
275
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Posted - 2013.02.10 15:45:00 -
[85] - Quote
Thanks for the F A I L. Where is my damn walking in stations! |
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