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Tover Chris Suicide Kings 16	Posted - 2013.01.17 14:27:00 - [1] - Quote https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194625&find=unread

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire 6927	Posted - 2013.01.17 14:27:00 - [2] - Quote Who can miss that?! GÿàGÿàGÿà Secure 3rd party service GÿàGÿàGÿà Visit my in-game channel 'Holy Veldspar' Follow me on Twitter @Chribba

Nair Alderau EVE University Ivy League 22	Posted - 2013.01.17 14:38:00 - [3] - Quote Chribba wrote: Who can miss that?! You'd be surprised... If it ain't in GD, some people miss it. So go to the thread and voice your support for Player-Owned-Stations. Be polite, be constructive, be firm.
Ishtanchuk Fazmarai 1010	Posted - 2013.01.17 14:41:00 - [4] - Quote We the WiSers welcome our POSer friends-in-disgrace! No, I'm not back. I had a PLEX on this account and just activated it to bang my head on the Door a bit more.
Mc Scam Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.01.17 15:09:00 - [5] - Quote The lobbyism is strong in OP. For a mere 10m isk I will consider supporting your cause. Take this free bump as a sign of goodwill.
Nair Alderau EVE University Ivy League 27	Posted - 2013.01.17 15:39:00 - [6] - Quote Mc Scam wrote: The lobbyism is strong in OP. For a mere 10m isk I will consider supporting your cause. Take this free bump as a sign of goodwill. Hmm... confusion. Bumps are always free, no?
Mc Scam Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire 13	Posted - 2013.01.17 15:49:00 - [7] - Quote Nair Alderau wrote: Hmm... confusion. Bumps are always free, no? Not in the world of politics and advertisement my love.
Khergit Deserters 644	Posted - 2013.01.17 16:24:00 - [8] - Quote Mc Scam wrote: The lobbyism is strong in OP. For a mere 10m isk I will consider supporting your cause. Take this free bump as a sign of goodwill. Sir, that is a brilliant idea. ::Sets calendar reminder for CSM election time:: If you help someone when they're in trouble, they will remember you when they're in trouble again.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 374	Posted - 2013.01.17 17:18:00 - [9] - Quote That thread is growing like a spawning of Azathoth. Soon we shall all be crushed to death under its exponentially ever-expanding mass. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Yusef Yeasef Yosef Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 165	Posted - 2013.01.17 18:11:00 - [10] - Quote Time for CTA, everyone to Jita! Edit: What was this about again?
Roime Shiva Furnace 1676	Posted - 2013.01.17 18:23:00 - [11] - Quote Check out the dev response as well https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2475724#post2475724 tl,dr; POSes will be fixed -á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars -
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 376	Posted - 2013.01.17 18:24:00 - [12] - Quote Roime wrote: tl,dr; POSes will be fixed When they get good and ready. Which won't be this year or next. For an effort that was promised back in 2006. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Surfin's PlunderBunny Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 6693	Posted - 2013.01.17 18:25:00 - [13] - Quote Nair Alderau wrote: Mc Scam wrote: The lobbyism is strong in OP. For a mere 10m isk I will consider supporting your cause. Take this free bump as a sign of goodwill. Hmm... confusion. Bumps are always free, no? Bumps are free, but it'll cost you 10m to get them to stop "Little ginger moron" ~David Hasselhoff-á
Chandaris Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel 228	Posted - 2013.01.17 18:33:00 - [14] - Quote if anything, hangar access divisions should be revisted.. outside of that, posses are fine as they are. none of our guys complain anyways. ccp should decide on direction, mechanics, and gameplay items surrounding posses.. then start revising code, not before. we all know POS code is old and scary (except the CSM apparently who i guess are sleeping on the job and haven't been paying attention the last 10 years) and as such it will require a lot of man-hours to deal with. I think those man hours could be spent on larger items, that affect more people. Out of the whole population, very few people manage posses. the only complaints i've ever really hear were surrounding fuel supplies (has been dealt with) and hangar access for wormholers (this would be nice to see a bandaid fix for) ..
Tover Chris Suicide Kings 23	Posted - 2013.01.17 18:39:00 - [15] - Quote Roime wrote: Check out the dev response as well https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2475724#post2475724 tl,dr; POSes will be fixed Please show me where they mention that they will be fixed. "we're not going to 'not' fix them" is the same as "we're going to fix them"
Roime Shiva Furnace 1678	Posted - 2013.01.17 18:46:00 - [16] - Quote Tover Chris wrote: Roime wrote: Check out the dev response as well https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2475724#post2475724 tl,dr; POSes will be fixed Please show me where they mention that they will be fixed. "we're not going to 'not' fix them" is the same as "we're going to fix them" You are absolutely correct there Chris, double negation is indeed equivalent to a proposition. -á- All I really wanted was to build a castle among the stars -
Gogela Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance 2199	Posted - 2013.01.17 18:48:00 - [17] - Quote ...escalating quickly Every Ship in GëíGêçGëí \| [FX7] \| Vote Cthulhu 2012
Altrue Exploration Frontier inc 298	Posted - 2013.01.17 18:51:00 - [18] - Quote Chribba wrote: Who can miss that?! Me ! :D Thank you, I was looking for a place to complain G££ <= Me
Brooks Puuntai Solar Nexus. 1033	Posted - 2013.01.17 18:54:00 - [19] - Quote I'am quite surprised this thread hasn't been locked for cross posting. It seems CCP is keeping a distance...
Bane Necran Appono Astos 1454	Posted - 2013.01.17 19:06:00 - [20] - Quote If i'm not mistaken, CCP said 0.0 sov was a more important issue, and i'm inclined to agree. These could be legitimate concerns, or fear that the era of alliances being able to hold vast areas of empty systems in 0.0 is coming to an end. "The nice thing about quotes is that they give us a nodding acquaintance with the originator which is often socially impressive." ~Kenneth Williams
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 1590	Posted - 2013.01.17 19:08:00 - [21] - Quote A thread that points to another thread. This wont be horribly locked anytime soon. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 379	Posted - 2013.01.17 20:28:00 - [22] - Quote Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: A thread that points to another thread. This wont be horribly locked anytime soon. The ISDs and Devs appear to be keeping their heads down. Don't blame 'em - there's a whole lotta wildly un-aimed fire going on about now. And some fairly massive amounts of closely-targetted fire, too. Probably wiser that they let the fire slacken a bit before providing pop-up targets for the angry. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Brooks Puuntai Solar Nexus. 1034	Posted - 2013.01.17 20:37:00 - [23] - Quote silens vesica wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: A thread that points to another thread. This wont be horribly locked anytime soon. The ISDs and Devs appear to be keeping their heads down. Don't blame 'em - there's a whole lotta wildly un-aimed fire going on about now. And some fairly massive amounts of closely-targetted fire, too. Probably wiser that they let the fire slacken a bit before providing pop-up targets for the angry. Luckily for CCP things have remained somewhat calm, all things considered.
Pak Narhoo Splinter Foundation 870	Posted - 2013.01.17 20:42:00 - [24] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: silens vesica wrote: Unsuccessful At Everything wrote: A thread that points to another thread. This wont be horribly locked anytime soon. The ISDs and Devs appear to be keeping their heads down. Don't blame 'em - there's a whole lotta wildly un-aimed fire going on about now. And some fairly massive amounts of closely-targetted fire, too. Probably wiser that they let the fire slacken a bit before providing pop-up targets for the angry. Luckily for CCP things have remained somewhat calm, all things considered. Yeah, where not yet at the 1000$ jeans stage yet. Hopefully it doesn't get there. Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm...
stoicfaux 2232	Posted - 2013.01.17 20:48:00 - [25] - Quote Tover Chris wrote: Topic: n case you missed it, There's a threadnought in progress regarding CCP's abondonment of POS https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194625&find=unread /reported If you follow the OP links in the referenced thread, the "CCP abandoning POS" thing is just a misunderstanding/misinterpretation of the CSM notes.
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 381	Posted - 2013.01.17 21:02:00 - [26] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Tover Chris wrote: Topic: n case you missed it, There's a threadnought in progress regarding CCP's abondonment of POS https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194625&find=unread /reported If you follow the OP links in the referenced thread, the "CCP abandoning POS" thing is just a misunderstanding/misinterpretation of the CSM notes. Disagree. Strongly. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Mortimer Civeri Aliastra Gallente Federation 371	Posted - 2013.01.17 21:07:00 - [27] - Quote Now where did I put my Pitchfork and Torches BPO? To Jita, to burn down another statue. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
Altessa Post Midnight special super sexy 8	Posted - 2013.01.17 21:51:00 - [28] - Quote I would have missed this. Thanks for bringing it up. Putting pointers into "General Discussion" is a good idea.
Finarfin Immunity Syndrome 19	Posted - 2013.01.17 22:16:00 - [29] - Quote stoicfaux wrote: Tover Chris wrote: Topic: n case you missed it, There's a threadnought in progress regarding CCP's abondonment of POS https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=194625&find=unread /reported If you follow the OP links in the referenced thread, the "CCP abandoning POS" thing is just a misunderstanding/misinterpretation of the CSM notes. Have you even read more than a few posts? This is no mere misunderstanding, this is CCP postponing POS fixes again. By refusing to give any definite ETA on a revamp these fixes will be in limbo like they were the last 6 years.

ISD Suvetar ISD Community Communications Liaisons 1789	Posted - 2013.01.17 22:39:00 - [30] - Quote Guys, We appreciate that people want to make sure this issue is heard about, and to that end I'm willing to let this thread stand for now, but please keep the arguments out of this; if you've got an opinion on the subject, then please post it to the linked thread in Jita Park Speakers Corner as that's the thread that is being monitored for opinions by CCP staff. Thanks. ISD Suvetar Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department

silens vesica Corsair Cartel 397	Posted - 2013.01.18 15:24:00 - [31] - Quote Thank'ee kindly. Surprisingly, civility largely seems to be the rule of the day on this subject. Are we sure we're still in EVE-O forums? Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Beekeeper Bob Beekeepers Anonymous 397	Posted - 2013.01.18 18:57:00 - [32] - Quote silens vesica wrote: Thank'ee kindly. Surprisingly, civility largely seems to be the rule of the day on this subject. Are we sure we're still in EVE-O forums? No, you've entered the Anti-EvE forums, everything that happens here is the exact opposite of what normally happens. At this point, I would normally make a disparaging remark towards someone...............I am forced to refrain. The single biggest danger to EVE is the proliferation of ALTS! Kill an alt today! Petition for a Minimum bounty of 10 mil. Prevent useless bounties!
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 399	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:05:00 - [33] - Quote Beekeeper Bob wrote: silens vesica wrote: Thank'ee kindly. Surprisingly, civility largely seems to be the rule of the day on this subject. Are we sure we're still in EVE-O forums? No, you've entered the Anti-EvE forums, everything that happens here is the exact opposite of what normally happens. At this point, I would normally make a disparaging remark towards someone...............I am forced to refrain. Ah. I wondered why everyone was suddenly sporting goatees. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Nova Fox Novafox Shipyards 4263	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:21:00 - [34] - Quote posted. Nova Fox Shipyards Inventory
Dave Stark 1595	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:31:00 - [35] - Quote Chribba wrote: Who can miss that?! i did, but then again i couldn't give a monkey's arse about poses since they provide me no personal benefit over an npc station. the joys of being a miner, you can get everything out of the game by being in an npc corp! "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system."
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 399	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:34:00 - [36] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: Chribba wrote: Who can miss that?! i did, but then again i couldn't give a monkey's arse about poses since they provide me no personal benefit over an npc station. the joys of being a miner, you can get everything out of the game by being in an npc corp! Might want to rethink that... Who consumes your minerals? Industrialists. Where do they work? Out of a POS. Or out of several. Better POS, easier POS, more attractive POS == More POS == Higher demand for your minerals == More ISK for you. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
ctx2007 Wychwood and Wells Beer needs you 266	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:36:00 - [37] - Quote Ah. I wondered why everyone was suddenly sporting goatees. I,m waiting till they start growing long hair and wearing tie-dye t-shirts and ripped jeans with sandals You only-árealise you life has been a waste of time, when you wake up dead.
Dave Stark 1595	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:39:00 - [38] - Quote silens vesica wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Chribba wrote: Who can miss that?! i did, but then again i couldn't give a monkey's arse about poses since they provide me no personal benefit over an npc station. the joys of being a miner, you can get everything out of the game by being in an npc corp! Might want to rethink that... Who consumes your minerals? Industrialists. Where do they work? Out of a POS. Or out of several. Better POS, easier POS, more attractive POS == More POS == Higher demand for your minerals == More ISK for you. then ship prices go up and i still have to mine for 10 hours to buy the same ship. mineral prices going up and down really isn't that important to me. it's nice you're trying to see the bigger picture, but you're not seeing the whole picture. when trit was 3.4 isk/unit charons were 800m, now trit is at just over 6 per unit and charons are 1.6 bill, or more. hence, i still have to mine for the same amount of time to buy a charon no matter what isk/hour i was making. "100k for notifications of stupidity, i love this bounty system."
silens vesica Corsair Cartel 399	Posted - 2013.01.18 19:48:00 - [39] - Quote Dave Stark wrote: silens vesica wrote: Dave Stark wrote: Chribba wrote: Who can miss that?! i did, but then again i couldn't give a monkey's arse about poses since they provide me no personal benefit over an npc station. the joys of being a miner, you can get everything out of the game by being in an npc corp! Might want to rethink that... Who consumes your minerals? Industrialists. Where do they work? Out of a POS. Or out of several. Better POS, easier POS, more attractive POS == More POS == Higher demand for your minerals == More ISK for you. then ship prices go up and i still have to mine for 10 hours to buy the same ship. mineral prices going up and down really isn't that important to me. it's nice you're trying to see the bigger picture, but you're not seeing the whole picture. when trit was 3.4 isk/unit charons were 800m, now trit is at just over 6 per unit and charons are 1.6 bill, or more. hence, i still have to mine for the same amount of time to buy a charon no matter what isk/hour i was making. While true, to an extent, the fact remains that what happens to the POS does impact you, albeit not as strongly as it impacts others. Among other things, changes in prices of minerals mean changes in the amount of competition you'll face to collect those minerals, changes in the gank-rates, and a whole slew of other things. Working out of a n00bcorp does not isolate you - and only partially insultates you - from the fact of POS production. That Charon you mentioned? Almost certainly produced by an industrialist working out of a POS. No one in EVE is an island. Up to you to decide whether those changes are positive or negative. Tell someone you love them today, because life is short. But scream it at them in Esperanto, because life is also terrifying and confusing.
Not Politically Correct Veerhouven Ventures 57	Posted - 2013.01.19 05:27:00 - [40] - Quote Bump

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