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Saladin
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Posted - 2005.06.30 01:23:00 -
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Its a shame Masta that you see the post as an oppurtunity for rivalry. I have in the past defended many corporations being labelled as pirates, including ones I fought like the Shinra and even yours.
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0ren Ishii
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Posted - 2005.06.30 01:56:00 -
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Apart of the political question here.
'Piracy' is just a term in my opinion.Shooting/killing neutrals is act of aggression some consider to be illegal,such actions pop in my head as 'piracy',maybe its just a habit.Call it however you want it.In CVA space it is against our law,we try to provide safe grounds for friendlies and neutrals.
If a random alliance claims a territory and shoot anyone who comes around,that would be to protect its grounds.
If a random alliance/corp member goes to neutral 0.0 or 0.1-0.4 space and start shooting random people,imo,thats the so called piracy and it can evolve in bad standings and official war.
Correct me if i'm wrong.Keep that question polite.Thank you.
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Band Zior
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Posted - 2005.06.30 02:31:00 -
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I think it is pretty obvious what's going on.
Some old school stain corps should be afraid...very afraid
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shivan
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Posted - 2005.06.30 03:10:00 -
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 Originally by: Cujo
You will not see me make another post unless its an official Stain announcement or if I have a co-processor 2 to sell.
When did we get a co-pro II bpo
Meh, im all confuzzled now 
What was the point of this topic?
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Band Zior
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Posted - 2005.06.30 03:46:00 -
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Of course you're confused. But of course. Nobody knows anything...
Sheessh...
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Saucerhead
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Posted - 2005.06.30 06:19:00 -
[36]
Please stay on topic.
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EVE GODDESS
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Posted - 2005.06.30 07:25:00 -
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Cujo will destroy your Alliance 
It came to me in a vision 
Watch your back stainers, you have been warned.
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Discorporation
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Posted - 2005.06.30 08:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cujo
I told you we would have a meeting tomorrow to discuss this matter, that was not good enough. So since you choose to make it public I will say this. Trust is earned... Its not given away.
Seems to me that CVA earned your trust way before, when they helped clear and keep clear the Providence corridor 
[Heterocephalus glaber]
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Heikki
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Posted - 2005.06.30 08:39:00 -
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Originally by: Cujo
As I've stated earlier. I don't think this is the way or place to settle the grievances that currently exist between us ..[snip].. We don't need the approval of the forums to base our decisions from.
Actually I think it is good idea to solve some matters on public forums; we greatly do need stuff like this.
Exactly for same reason we see those news arcticles; to give this world feeling of living place. To absord more people into in-game relations, and perhaps even tempt new fodd^H^H^H^H players.
Personally I prefer these peeks in the alliance struggles to be in form of constructive and well formed posts like in this thread, rather than from flamebaiting alts, or official statements with newspeak.
What we might need is selective reading/replying; a skill to ignore useless alt drivel, and focus on constructive posts. Or perhaps /. style moderation. However, don't think it is good idea to refuse write anything sensible in fear of bunch of flames among a few pearly posts.
-Lasse
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EVE GODDESS
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Posted - 2005.06.30 08:43:00 -
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Cujo will destroy Stain
I have seen it in the stars 
He cannot be trusted.
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EVE GODDESS
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Posted - 2005.06.30 08:44:00 -
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Cujo will destroy Stain
I have seen it in the stars
He cannot be trusted.
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Ackath
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Posted - 2005.06.30 09:00:00 -
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Even I love PIE :)
Cujo and Hardin for 1on1 whover wins gets to buy the beer 
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Sceartan
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Posted - 2005.06.30 09:12:00 -
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Originally by: Ackath
Even I love PIE :)
Cujo and Hardin for 1on1 whover wins gets to buy the beer
Pft, silly Minnie.. hope you saved up enough money to feed Hardin pints!
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Ackath
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Posted - 2005.06.30 09:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sceartan
Pft, silly Minnie.. hope you saved up enough money to feed Hardin pints!
come on...we all know you amarrians are fluffy on the inside and cry to happy endings :) thats why we love you :)
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Hans Roaming
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:00:00 -
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Edited by: Hans Roaming on 30/06/2005 10:00:19
Originally by: Cujo
So since you choose to make it public I will say this. Trust is earned... Its not given away. At this point I don't trust you to negotiate in good faith because it seems you need the support and approval of the universe. So as of now, Stain will set you as neutral. And to make it clear, we shoot neutrals in hostile or home space because of hostilities currently going on. We are not sending any fleets or anything like that but we'll use this as a trial period to see if there is a way to proceed without the need of the public forums.
Last night (whilst under the rules of engagement outlined above) a small Stain Empire fleet (Priory) engaged without provocation and destroyed a Huzzah Raven in R3 (located in CVA space). This fleet also later engaged CVA members as well as a member from a neutral corp (Starflight Corp, very recently ex Stain). Could someone please explain to me how these actions by Stain Empire relate to the above issued statement?
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MadGaz
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Hans Roaming
Edited by: Hans Roaming on 30/06/2005 10:00:19
Last night (whilst under the rules of engagement outlined above) a small Stain Empire fleet (Priory) engaged without provocation and destroyed a Huzzah Raven in R3 (located in CVA space). This fleet also later engaged CVA members as well as a member from a neutral corp (Starflight Corp, very recently ex Stain). Could someone please explain to me how these actions by Stain Empire relate to the above issued statement?
Harrrrrrr!
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:21:00 -
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Originally by: Cujo
Trust is earned... Its not given away.
Stain and PIE were friends long before the actual Stain IGA existed or Species 5618 was a member. Did your corp even exist back then? My first corp in EVE was Everlasting Vendetta and PIE were known to be friends even back in those days. I think it's odd to say the least as to why this would change. Bah.
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Arud
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:32:00 -
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sad to see one of the longest friendships in eve go down like this, hope things can still be fixed
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Tharrn
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Posted - 2005.06.30 10:34:00 -
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Stain is dead, long live Stain?
(as in 'the king is dead, long live the king' - same name, totally different thing)
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Hakera
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:19:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene
Originally by: Cujo
Trust is earned... Its not given away.
Stain and PIE were friends long before the actual Stain IGA existed or Species 5618 was a member. Did your corp even exist back then?
Species 5618
Member of Stain Empire since 2005.06.22
There arnt many of the founders left i see now.
As a pure outsider I would say SE are actively recruiting pvp'ers which include Priory and are willing to comprimise on their members activities in exchange for an army. Priory are well known even to us as pirates in Providence. Thier past cannot simply be erased by becoming members of an alliance, clean slates dont always work with many people and perhaps not so with the CVA who may or may not be able to forgive past transgressions in return for a promise to not pirate again.
I guess the stain of today is not the stain of yesterday. Old bonds may not be so fondly remembered or valued now.
Still an interesting question, which do I more hate a pirate or a slaver...
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Tuijabird
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:26:00 -
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Stain stab someone in the back or attack what was once a napped alliance or corp?Never heard of that.
I think in the last 6 months you can see many many cases of the them doing stupid crap to neutral or napped people.
Until the the heat got brought down on them, mass n comp. ran off scared and then get heat and run back, then they had to accept other priate corps due to the lack of any real "muscle"...If it wasn't for bob n a few others napped with them they would of been dead..
Now they set a very very very long time friend to neutral... i wouldn't be to comfortable around them if i was u Pie...shyt no one should be or feel safe around them if they r out numbered..
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Armetheus
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Posted - 2005.06.30 11:58:00 -
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I believe the thread has ran it's course - it has served as a stepping stone to, from what I can see here, some communication between the alliances in question.
The rest is just anger directed at one group or another, so as a result *click*
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