Armor Omen
Despite being an attack cruiser the omen is actually a quite good brawler and is a great ship for armor fleets. "But Miz, isn't the maller a better ship for fleets? It got a nice tank" one of you lemmings might ask me. And for that I have a few answers: The maller can fit a good tank, but it does still suffer from low dps. And the large tank doesn't benefit you when the rest of your fleet has already been cleared. The Omen mix well with other armor t1 cruisers and is faster than the maller. And once you see the potential pain an omen can deliver you will never go back. In order for a Maller to deal the same dps as an Omen it needs 3 heatsinks, which means the tank advantage will be diminishing. And lastly, the Omen doesn't suffer that much from cap problems, so it frees up the mid for something else.

So lets take a look at the fit:


[Omen, 1600 brawler]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2

Is 1% over on cpu, either use an implant or downgrade the DCU to a meta or a EANM to a ANM.
This is a brawler fit, hence the scram.

487 dps (539 heated) with INMF 6.8 + 3.8 range
527 dps (586 heated) with Conflag 6.8 + 3.8 range (can shoot for about 5 min before capping out)
415 dps (457 heated) with Scorch 20 + 3.8 range

267 m/s, 1557 m/s with MWD (2202 heated)
18 min of cap without MWD, 1min 31s with MWD (both with MF loaded)

36,010EHP (75.1, 67.6, 62.6, 60.1 resist)

If you got logi support it is worth replacing the armor rigs with exp and kin resist rigs.

If your fleet has enough webs, you can replace the web with a small cap booster. It allows you to permarun everything with MWD and Conflag (using both simultaneously will be stupid since the MWD mess with the tracking) and it fixes the cpu problem.

This is a ship that can scale really well with player skills. The instant ammo switch allows you to really benefit from the 3 types of ammo. If your target is far away you can burn them down with scorch until you are in range. With good manual piloting (or if the target is double webbed and you sit still) you can really benefit from the high dps of conflag (you will outdps a standard 1600mm plated thorax). Otherwise just use INMF. Manageing your ammo will allow you to gain near max potential dps from it, but be aware of tracking. It is the biggest drawback and your own orbit can easily break it. If you dont have a cap booster you can get a huge benefit from micro manageing the capacitor.

It seems like a very fun ship and I will definitely try it out once I got the skills for it.

So all our laser lovers. Park our mallers in the back of your hangar and embrace the face meltage of the omen.

[Omen, 1600 brawler]
Damage Control II
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Imperial Navy Multifrequency M

Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I
Medium Trimark Armor Pump I

Hammerhead II x3
Hobgoblin II x2

So all our laser lovers. Park our mallers in the back of your hangar and embrace the face meltage of the omen.

People always tell me it's a 'kite ship', which I think is silly since Amarr is supposed to have armor plates, drones, neuts, and TD in their design philosophy. But if that were the case, why doesn't it have a speed bonus or something?

Whenever I try to fit it, it just comes out exactly like the Maller, but with 10k less EHP, and a tiny bit more dps. Meh. I guess the only thing about it that's better than the maller is it's a bit more mobile.

I guess it's cheaper too, but when you T2 fit your ship, 4 mil or so is nothing

The thing about the Maller is that it can get identical tank out of 3 lows and 1 trimark, versus the 4 lows and 2 trimarks of your fit. You can do a LOT with an extra rig and an extra low including but not limited to more tank, more DPS, more cap stability, etc. The only advantage the armour Omen will always have over the armour Maller is speed (unless you wanted to use that spare low for an ODI - which of course no one would do). All things considered the Maller is a better T1 armour brawler cruiser than the Omen (unsurprisingly) and if you decide the amount of tank you have on the omen is appropriate than scale the Maller to that and then explore what else you can do with it.

But, if you spend that extra low and rig for dps, the omen will still outdps the maller (487 against 441 with INMF). The omen still got better cap, and for shorter engagements it doesn't need a cap booster (and an 3/2 fit augorer can easily cap up a bunch of omens) so it will free up a mid if the fleet lacks tackle. Dont underestimate speed. For smallscale pvp, speed is vital but for larger slugfests it is still a big bonus since you can get in range and apply dps faster. Yes, scorch has long range, but INMF still does more dmg when you get up close. And since lasers has instant ammo swap, you can take advantage of that.

And despite that the maller has a potential to deal ok dmg, I still see more brick mallers than dps ones in RVB.

Slicer, cynabal, machariel all are ships that are viable kiters yet they dont have a speed bonus.

Jester's blog post hypes the Omen way more than it deserves. It's nothing like the Zealot because it lacks the optimal bonus.

-Liang

Now im quite curious what is kiting? See i dont actually have a pc or internet so i rarely get to play EVE xD i know crazy right. I'm working on getting a job but its hard.

Using your speed and range to stay out of the enemy's effective range and slowly kill him.

I really don't get how many people think its a good ship..

I mean its better than it was but its still gimpy as all ****.

Can a Omen sacrifice defense to dish out lots of dps or are amarr ships just not capable of this?

You can shield tank the Omen if you want. It does alright damage.

-Liang

The Omen is pretty badass at the moment. I am actually starting to crosstrain to amarr because of it. It can be fit as a great kiting ship but it is also a fantastic brawler.

Jester made a good blogpost: http://jestertrek.blogspot.dk/2012/12/fit-of-week-retribution-omen.html

And I have tried to explain the RVB lemmings to fly omen (using the same fit as Jester's) instead of maller:

rapid fire: 3
surgical strike: 3

That's almost 10% DPS right there. How's the rest of your support skills and cruiser skill look? Or just link us to the char sheet. Also: make sure to update your EFT with an updated API pull. :)

-Liang

Thank you, i appreciate taking a look at it. I've been so confused when i see all the DPS numbers posted by people are so insanely high compared to mine. I don't know what's making such a large difference.

http://eveboard.com/pilot/Gitanmaxx

*edit* in order to not hijack the OPs thread I actually created a thread with my qestions and the skill sheet, unfortunately when I try to past the link to that thread in here it says "post may not contain html." not sure what that means.....