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Domalais
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Posted - 2005.07.05 22:58:00 -
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 Originally by: Lythius Arcturnus
However, if you ever get GM FATE your in VERY VERY good hands! Don't get me wrong though, its not like I asked for a billion and he gave it to me. In fact I didn't get what I wanted necessarily, but he is professional, courteous, thorough, technically knowledgable, and he genuinely cares.
Fate is wonderful. I had a month or so when I had a bunch of POS related problems that needed fixing (back when they were first out). Most of the petitions were answered by Fate. Some weren't. When Fate was the one that responded, you knew you'd get a clear answer and a fix in the shortest amount of time possible. Fantastic guy tbh.
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Morat Jernau
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Posted - 2005.07.06 15:00:00 -
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I thought 3FA didn't shoot neutrals? |
Ace Garpy
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:24:00 -
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*Still munching on Popcorn*
Oh the drama! 
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Ichabod Crane
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Posted - 2005.07.06 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Morat Jernau
I thought 3FA didn't shoot neutrals?
He stopped being neutral when he refused to remove his starbase and started smacktalking in locals, lay off with the 'omg 3FA started shooting neutrals' crap aye?
As for this whole trivial saga we consider it over and done with, shinji brought it onto the forums with his whining and foot stomping, not us. As it stands it has outlived its irrelevance, there will be no further posts from 3FA members regarding this.
[The opinions expressed within this post are representative of the poster and not that of his alliance or corp.] |
Lythius Arcturnus
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Posted - 2005.07.06 17:34:00 -
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So now that all towers have 250kim activation range do you guys still think your tactic was legit and the intended design?
Hmmmm
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:11:00 -
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you knew it was claimed, you knew they didn't like you, you got warned, they use game mechanics as intended AND you whine ?
Seriously what r u thinking ?
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Lythius Arcturnus
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:44:00 -
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Im thinking it wasn't intended and was a mistake, thats what im thinking MISTER! =P
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Jessa
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Posted - 2005.07.06 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Lythius Arcturnus
Im thinking it wasn't intended and was a mistake, thats what im thinking MISTER! =P
That still doesnt mean the tactic is any less legitimate just because they corrected it. If someone were to snipe a POS from 260k it would not be an exploit, it would just be taking tactical advantage of a POS weakness.
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Baron Weinerschntzel
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Posted - 2005.07.06 20:38:00 -
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I'm forced to agree Ichabod on this one.
Why are you here? I don't know you, and I'm sure you don't want to know me. |
Lythius Arcturnus
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Posted - 2005.07.06 21:01:00 -
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You guys have entirely too much of your ego's wrapped up in this game in my humble opinion.
I was merely saying that the ability to sit outside of a towers range and blow it up was probably never intended and now has been fixed. Well clearly it wasn't intended or they wouldn't have changed it in the patch.
You can extrapolate from this that the dev's would probably frown on your tactic seeing as how they made it impossible now.
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Clipped Wings
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Posted - 2005.07.07 08:25:00 -
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Originally by: Lythius Arcturnus
You guys have entirely too much of your ego's wrapped up in this game in my humble opinion.
As opposed to your smacktalking in locals at the beginning of the siege..? Here's a suggestion. Not everyone in the game that doesn't like you are bullies, e-peen waggling pirate'ish alliance leet-players. Maybe some people just don't like you because of how you're acting towards them. Your attitude, from start to finish, is one of the reasons we decided to down your POS. The others were things like your employmanet history, and the fact you set up your POS in our space - which, by the way, I am fairly certain you knew about. And for the record: Your opinion is all but humble.
Originally by: Lythius Arcturnus
I was merely saying that the ability to sit outside of a towers range and blow it up was probably never intended and now has been fixed. Well clearly it wasn't intended or they wouldn't have changed it in the patch.
Kindly have the loving grace to inform us of the 'proper' way of takig down a POS, then? If memory serves, a medium tower costs approx 70 mil - at most. I'll wager a guess and assume that your entire POS + mods still costs less than a fully kitted battleship...So...how many battleships was it you thought we should lose to something that is basicaly only assaultable in one way? Or rather, was asasultable? Oh, wait, I remember. Your idea of a fair fight is a 70 mil pos that can one-volley a 200 mil (ship cost + mods) battleship. Sorry, my bad. *cough*
Originally by: Lythius Arcturnus
You can extrapolate from this that the dev's would probably frown on your tactic seeing as how they made it impossible now.
Actually, what I can extrapolat is that you want an "I Win" button automatically attached to your POS. I can hardly say the current lockranges/engagement ranges seem balanced, in particular when we are talking about a *MEDIUM* pos.
You seem to want complete security at a very, very low overhead participation. In 0.0 space. Maybe one of us needs to go douse his face with some cold water and take a reality check.
First we were dumb and naive.
Then we were pathetic and unworthy of our space.
Then we were tiresome and laughable.
Then we were suddenly people who in real life took other kids' lunchmoney.
Finally, we were cowards, borderline expoliters and what else not.
Now, after we ended up spendin nearly 4 days to siege your POS, you're saying that we don't have the right to be happy about nuking your installation?
Not good sportsmanship, tbh.
-Clipped Wings of LFC
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man."
~William Hazlitt
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Morat Jernau
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Posted - 2005.07.07 08:55:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Ichabod Crane
Originally by: Morat Jernau
I thought 3FA didn't shoot neutrals?
He stopped being neutral when he refused to remove his starbase and started smacktalking in locals, lay off with the 'omg 3FA started shooting neutrals' crap aye?
How many of your ships did he destroy to lose neutrality? |
Clipped Wings
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Posted - 2005.07.07 10:35:00 -
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Originally by: Morat Jernau
How many of your ships did he destroy to lose neutrality?
Neutrality is also abiding by the playing rules. Our home, our rules. He was both asked to leave, and given the opportunity to do so peacefully. He chose to turn around and give us the best of his vocabulary...or worst, depending on perspective.
I'd like to hear if you consider moving into others' homes, ignoring them up until the point of smacktalking them, and then setting up a POS for own gain in their space, neutral?
However, I believe that might be a discussion best taken in another thread, as it more comes down to politics and ethics than the actual POS itself.
-Clipped Wings of LFC
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man."
~William Hazlitt
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.07 12:55:00 -
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Just a question,
Did you consider boosting the towers range with a Scorp?
might have been the deciding factor if you had.
Zandramus
Homeless And Clueless
S.A.S
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Dantes Darkheart
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Posted - 2005.07.07 13:29:00 -
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That would have required the POS owner to leave the bubble and be destroyed since you can't target lock structures while inside the bubble.
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Deklein Resident/POS Manager/Uber Hauler
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Carl Jidona
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Posted - 2005.07.07 16:17:00 -
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Originally by: Dantes Darkheart
That would have required the POS owner to leave the bubble and be destroyed since you can't target lock structures while inside the bubble.
Can't they put the bubble between them and the attacker's, then lock their own tower fly back into the bubble and boost it that way? was just curious because I have never owned or set up a POS and I am gathering information before I do put one up 
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Clipped Wings
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Posted - 2005.07.07 17:55:00 -
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Originally by: Dantes Darkheart
That would have required the POS owner to leave the bubble and be destroyed since you can't target lock structures while inside the bubble.
The POS destruction took place before the patch. Theoretically, he could just have sit inside with a sniper ship of his own. Or whatever else he could have thought up.
-Clipped Wings of LFC
"I believe in the theoretical benevolence, and practical malignity of man."
~William Hazlitt
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s4mp3r0r
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:32:00 -
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ok last thing to say to try to make u understand something :
if all of the people are responding this is ingame mechanics, and suggest YOU need to adapt...
Then maybe, MAYBE you are just wrong ?
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.07 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Dantes Darkheart
That would have required the POS owner to leave the bubble and be destroyed since you can't target lock structures while inside the bubble.
even after patch with a cov ops and a scorp you could thoretically play cat and mouse with em by keeping > 300k from them while still boosting your pos.
especially if you have a warp scrambling array as well as guns, you could kill a battleship , warp out warp in to a new position kill another warp out. this would keep them away from the pos as long as you were logged in.
there are other things that could have been done such as keeping more than 2.5 days of clathrates in the tower. ie once it comes out of reinforced mode it is back up to 100 pct shields. all that is required to make a pos invinceble is a little imagination and lots of isk.
Zandramus
Homeless And Clueless
S.A.S
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Jessa
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Posted - 2005.07.07 19:06:00 -
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afaik, the shield does not recharge while in reinforced mode.
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.07 20:09:00 -
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Originally by: Jessa
afaik, the shield does not recharge while in reinforced mode.
You have tested this? Becuse I can say that prepatch it did and was thouroughly frustrating to say the least.
Zandramus
Homeless And Clueless
S.A.S
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Taipan Stark
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Posted - 2005.07.08 02:15:00 -
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Well, about a month ago I had a Small POS up (my first) that got killed by snipers where my guns would fire very erratically. It was defintely bugged and after a petition we got reimbursed. Anyways, as for the strontium, the station went into reinforced mode for 8 hours and to my dismay we couldnt do *anything* with the station during that time... then it finally came out of it and was at 25% shields...so no I dont think shields recharge during a period of reinforced mode.
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Just Smith
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Posted - 2005.07.08 12:00:00 -
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does anyone know if they have fixed pos guns not shoting? and if they fixed the bug where somtimes if they do shot they will only shot very slowly.
Also some basic logic would be nice for pos guns e.g it would be nice if u could set it so large guns went for dreads before they would shot drones and other small things and med guns would go after battleships before they shot the next class down and small after everything.
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Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.08 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Taipan Stark
Well, about a month ago I had a Small POS up (my first) that got killed by snipers where my guns would fire very erratically. It was defintely bugged and after a petition we got reimbursed. Anyways, as for the strontium, the station went into reinforced mode for 8 hours and to my dismay we couldnt do *anything* with the station during that time... then it finally came out of it and was at 25% shields...so no I dont think shields recharge during a period of reinforced mode.
all the ones we had problems with had more than 24h of clathrates. when they came out of reinforced mode they had shields partially recharged, and instantly went back into reinforced mode becuase they were able to add more clathrates when the shields went above 50 pct.
now weather that was natural recharge , or weather they logged in and boosted the pos's shields with ships I cannot tell you becuase when the tower has a countdown of 24h of reinforced mode , im not going to sit there for a day and wait for it to come out of it.
Zandramus
Homeless And Clueless
S.A.S
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Lythius Arcturnus
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Posted - 2005.07.10 07:14:00 -
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Edited by: Lythius Arcturnus on 10/07/2005 07:22:31
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Dantes Darkheart
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Posted - 2005.07.11 12:50:00 -
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Interested 'cat & mouse' technique. 
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Deklein Resident/POS Manager/Uber Hauler
"I'm kept warm by my hatred of the POS implementation." |
Zandramus
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Posted - 2005.07.11 13:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dantes Darkheart
Interested 'cat & mouse' technique.
yes I found this very interesting, it took alot of patience to take those out eventually, but I can see someone losing interst after a week or so of this.
Zandramus
Homeless And Clueless
S.A.S
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HDCamper Itsim
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Posted - 2005.07.11 15:01:00 -
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hmmm
"I cannot tell you becuase when the tower has a countdown of 24h of reinforced mode"
If you as the enemy can tell how long a tower is going to be in reinforced mode... - that just seems wrong.
If that is really the case, might should just broadcast the POS password too, so it'll be even quicker.
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